Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
I am not at all sure what items my darling wife has around. To me they mostly look like weeds in pots. Guess I need to update myself. Basil we do have - I remember some things. I'm going to try the ribs for later today. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question If you eat, you should have a rosemary plant, and basil! On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah -- if you have a rosemary bush, fresh rosemary is to die for. Bit of lemon, garlic to go with it. Shove some little branches up under the skin of the chicken. Heaven! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Tried out my new [to me] grill tonight, and tried the rotisserie for the first time in my life. Pretty basic stuff, I stuck two chickens on the spit, put some BBQ rub on them and cranked it up. I was also dealing with some grandkids at the time, and when I thought it was stable at 450 degrees I wandered off for a time. When I got back a few minutes later it as at 550 and the chicken skin was black. Tasted good [burn was only of the skin], but not visually appealing, to say the least. It's a 4 burner Jenn-Air, 64,000 BTU. Anyone have a good method for using a rotisserie? It did not come with a manual. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
You're better off with a lower heat and a longer cooking. Rotisserie is the best for chicken! And give the skin a few pokes with a fork to make some dribble holes for the juices! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Lower the temp! You will have to stay close, just like any other grilling, you really cannot leave it for more than a few minutes. At 450 it chickens should cook right through pretty fast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wondered about that but caught someone's post that the high heat [though not to 550] for 45 min was the method used in commercial units. Chicken was tender, though at 45 minutes the inside 1/4 was a touch pink. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 6:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question You're better off with a lower heat and a longer cooking. Rotisserie is the best for chicken! And give the skin a few pokes with a fork to make some dribble holes for the juices! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
TURN IT DOWN! Chicken want to cook low and slow. Put some hickory chips in a disposable aluminum pan, the will smoke for awhile. I'm so addicted to the I've bought a smoker to cook many foods the low SLOW WAY. But, it can be done on your grill. After learning how not to burn chickens, try a bone in pork roast. Just don't over cook it! Better than prime rib when done right. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:18:53 -0400, you wrote: Tried out my new [to me] grill tonight, and tried the rotisserie for the first time in my life. Pretty basic stuff, I stuck two chickens on the spit, put some BBQ rub on them and cranked it up. I was also dealing with some grandkids at the time, and when I thought it was stable at 450 degrees I wandered off for a time. When I got back a few minutes later it as at 550 and the chicken skin was black. Tasted good [burn was only of the skin], but not visually appealing, to say the least. It's a 4 burner Jenn-Air, 64,000 BTU. Anyone have a good method for using a rotisserie? It did not come with a manual. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:23:32 -0400, you wrote: You're better off with a lower heat and a longer cooking. Rotisserie is the best for chicken! And give the skin a few pokes with a fork to make some dribble holes for the juices! NO! Why dry it out! Pete -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
2 more things. put dry Rub on before cooking, NO BBQ sauce un till the cooking is done. The sugar in BBQ sauce burns, you don't want that. Secret rib receipt follows: Marinade them o'night in Caesars salad dressing, cook then very slow, add smoke, you'll like these without sauce, add if you like after cooking. Pete, I tend to be passionate about the smoking thing. Pete On Fri, 16 May 2008 17:22:20 -0500, you wrote: Lower the temp! You will have to stay close, just like any other grilling, you really cannot leave it for more than a few minutes. At 450 it chickens should cook right through pretty fast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
You can also buy a Cajun Injector, which is just a big syringe you can inject the chicken (or turkey if you are frying it) with a variety of sauces you can either buy or make yourself. This keeps it really moist and very flavorful. Or you can just poke a few holes in the skin and push in some seasonings, garlic, lemon or lime bits, sauce, onion bits, dressings of some kind, or some combination of all of the above, whatever, between skin and meat. That keeps it moist too, and flavors up the meat. As suggested, no sugary sauce until the end, although a vinegar-based sauce is fine (with a bit of olive oil to keep it moister) as long as it does not have a lot of goopy stuff. I put some vinegar, cut-up onion, pepper, seasonings of various kinds, mustard, a small bit of ketchup (has sugar), hot sauce, beer, whiskey (my uncle used to put some KY bourbon in his sauce, a wonderful flavor) whatever you like in a blender and pulverize that for a good marinade/sauce. Then at the end add some ketchup and molasses to that sauce to baste with, finsih to get crispy. YUM I have that same grill! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
I should probably start by saying I don't like prime rib. Cook it so it is a rib eye and you've got me. Love those, and fortunately some restaurants will cook it either way for me. The guy I was reading suggested that chicken skin would only be edible when cooked on a high heat, so that was my first try. The chicken itself was quite good, just the skin was a tad cremated, and not to bad even so. I do have a smoker, but have only used it to do a couple of turkeys at T-day, guess I should have a go at that also. I do a lot of low and slow in my Dutch oven, so will try that on the grill - what settings / time do you use for chicken? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question TURN IT DOWN! Chicken want to cook low and slow. Put some hickory chips in a disposable aluminum pan, the will smoke for awhile. I'm so addicted to the I've bought a smoker to cook many foods the low SLOW WAY. But, it can be done on your grill. After learning how not to burn chickens, try a bone in pork roast. Just don't over cook it! Better than prime rib when done right. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:18:53 -0400, you wrote: Tried out my new [to me] grill tonight, and tried the rotisserie for the first time in my life. Pretty basic stuff, I stuck two chickens on the spit, put some BBQ rub on them and cranked it up. I was also dealing with some grandkids at the time, and when I thought it was stable at 450 degrees I wandered off for a time. When I got back a few minutes later it as at 550 and the chicken skin was black. Tasted good [burn was only of the skin], but not visually appealing, to say the least. It's a 4 burner Jenn-Air, 64,000 BTU. Anyone have a good method for using a rotisserie? It did not come with a manual. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Come on down and give me a lesson or two. All I put on the chickens was so Sticky Fingers dry rub. I'll give your recipe a try. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question 2 more things. put dry Rub on before cooking, NO BBQ sauce un till the cooking is done. The sugar in BBQ sauce burns, you don't want that. Secret rib receipt follows: Marinade them o'night in Caesars salad dressing, cook then very slow, add smoke, you'll like these without sauce, add if you like after cooking. Pete, I tend to be passionate about the smoking thing. Pete On Fri, 16 May 2008 17:22:20 -0500, you wrote: Lower the temp! You will have to stay close, just like any other grilling, you really cannot leave it for more than a few minutes. At 450 it chickens should cook right through pretty fast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 20Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 89 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
We bought one of those cheap electric smokers - vertacle drum shaped - and have really enjoyed it. I cut pieces of pecan sticks (picked up in the back yard), place them beside the element, replace them every hour, and smoke several birds and cheap pork loins at a time. I rub curry powoder/garlic salt on the pork, and leave the birds as-is. Yummy stuff every time. Takes about five hours. I use it year round. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 more things. put dry Rub on before cooking, NO BBQ sauce un till the cooking is done. The sugar in BBQ sauce burns, you don't want that. Secret rib receipt follows: Marinade them o'night in Caesars salad dressing, cook then very slow, add smoke, you'll like these without sauce, add if you like after cooking. Pete, I tend to be passionate about the smoking thing. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
That does sound good. Come to think of it I had some great Rosemary chicken at a Mediterranean restaurant a few weeks ago, I need to branch out. Hope the grill has held up well. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question You can also buy a Cajun Injector, which is just a big syringe you can inject the chicken (or turkey if you are frying it) with a variety of sauces you can either buy or make yourself. This keeps it really moist and very flavorful. Or you can just poke a few holes in the skin and push in some seasonings, garlic, lemon or lime bits, sauce, onion bits, dressings of some kind, or some combination of all of the above, whatever, between skin and meat. That keeps it moist too, and flavors up the meat. As suggested, no sugary sauce until the end, although a vinegar-based sauce is fine (with a bit of olive oil to keep it moister) as long as it does not have a lot of goopy stuff. I put some vinegar, cut-up onion, pepper, seasonings of various kinds, mustard, a small bit of ketchup (has sugar), hot sauce, beer, whiskey (my uncle used to put some KY bourbon in his sauce, a wonderful flavor) whatever you like in a blender and pulverize that for a good marinade/sauce. Then at the end add some ketchup and molasses to that sauce to baste with, finsih to get crispy. YUM I have that same grill! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Low and slow is the only way to cook ribs (I do them on one side of the grill with only the other side lit, as low as it will go, cook at least 6 hours -- slop on some sauce once in a while and turn when you go past while working outside). Chicken, you have to cook all the way through (you don't want salmonella poisoning) and with a rotisserie you can use high heat. 450 is OK, you may want 425 -- this depends on your grill, the thermometer, and where it is placed since it's not actually in the chicken, which would be the best place. As noted, no sugar containing sauce while using high heat, it burns. Use some Tandoori seasoning instead as a rub, good flavor and no sugar. It will dry out horribly, especially the white meat, if over cooked. The rotation rate is also a consideration -- you want it high enough to cook evenly while still allowing the bird to crisp early to keep it juicy. Have fun! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Zedic said dribble Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question You're better off with a lower heat and a longer cooking. Rotisserie is the best for chicken! And give the skin a few pokes with a fork to make some dribble holes for the juices! Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Youi might be able to smell the ribs tomorrow if the wind is blowing the right way. Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question Low and slow is the only way to cook ribs (I do them on one side of the grill with only the other side lit, as low as it will go, cook at least 6 hours -- slop on some sauce once in a while and turn when you go past while working outside). Chicken, you have to cook all the way through (you don't want salmonella poisoning) and with a rotisserie you can use high heat. 450 is OK, you may want 425 -- this depends on your grill, the thermometer, and where it is placed since it's not actually in the chicken, which would be the best place. As noted, no sugar containing sauce while using high heat, it burns. Use some Tandoori seasoning instead as a rub, good flavor and no sugar. It will dry out horribly, especially the white meat, if over cooked. The rotation rate is also a consideration -- you want it high enough to cook evenly while still allowing the bird to crisp early to keep it juicy. Have fun! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
Oh yeah -- if you have a rosemary bush, fresh rosemary is to die for. Bit of lemon, garlic to go with it. Shove some little branches up under the skin of the chicken. Heaven! --R Bill R wrote: That does sound good. Come to think of it I had some great Rosemary chicken at a Mediterranean restaurant a few weeks ago, I need to branch out. Hope the grill has held up well. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT rotisserie question
If you eat, you should have a rosemary plant, and basil! On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah -- if you have a rosemary bush, fresh rosemary is to die for. Bit of lemon, garlic to go with it. Shove some little branches up under the skin of the chicken. Heaven! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
