Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
Thanks Dave. clay On May 29, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Dave via Mercedes wrote: The subject seems to have wandered, imagine that :-) I did some years in the marine industry... Your standard 5 lug trailer hub/axle uses a 1 1/16 X 1 3/8 spindle and the GVW on that should be 3500# per axle. In Wa. State you will need brakes on both axles if your GVW is over 3000#, these also use a 10 brake drum and backing plate set. Bearings, axles, hubs, drums and backing plates were all standardized in the '80s so parts are not much of a problem. If you find an older trailer you might find the 6 lug hub axle combo and those are around 6000# GVW for each axle but probably not. Send me a message if you need parts once you find a trailer, I still do IT work for a certain marine shop and am long time friends with the owners. dave Lynnwood, WA '95 E300d (on the road again) '82 300CD '94 Volvo 960 '73 GMC 23' motorhome (FWD) I was more interested in the running gear being able to handle the weight. Beefing up the frame may set me back a few hundred $$, whereas purchase of a purpose made trailer would be a grand or more. If I strip down an SD, then I have the muscle to move it too. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
Rich, tell your daughter There's an app for that: Gas Buddy. Fantastic when traveling. On my last trip to WDC area, returning on 95, I needed to stop for diesel. Gas Buddy found a station a mile off the freeway that was about twenty cents cheaper than the stations right off the exit ramp. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Having tired early of people whose phones are smarter than they, (dumb people with smart phones) I use gasbuddy.com to look up prices or find Diesel fuel on occasion. I still prefer smart people with dumb phones over dumb people with smart phones. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
So will he have a Benz in Providence? ChowdahQ only about 25 miles south of the City. Where is he doing his residency? On May 29, 2015 11:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My daughter had her 300SD the last coupla weeks, Wed evening we stopped at coupla stations looking for dizzel, one looked promising with a yellow handle on the pump, turned out it was E85. We gave up, she left yesterday morning after dropping me at the aerodrome, she had about 1/3 tank so I figured that would get her far enough out into America that she could find some dizzel. BTW we were up there for the boy's gradjamacation from medical school, which was a Big *** Deal! (We drive by Joe's house a coupla times, including yesterday morning, but he did not join us for the event). I am driving up there again tomorrow in the Suburban to move him to Providence for his residency. Ugh. --R On 5/29/15 11:05 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. For my one trip to DC, I had cheap fuel available, so I put 2 30 gal barrels in the trunk of the 110.110 hooked them together, then fed a line with a valve into a T in the return fuel line. When the tank got low, I opened the valve in the trunk and drove until the gauge showed full. Then i'd stop and shut off the valve. Worked great. Yes, the trunk on the 110/111/112 was so big I could easily fit 2 30 gal barrels into it., along with our luggage, tools etc. Try that in your 140 or 210/211 Kaleb! After 2 of the 5 days in DC i was ready to leave. When I was finally able to leave, I was so sick of the place, I NEVER want to go back. Waste, fraud, and abuse; nobody but people in the construction or service industries actually do any constructive work, and they are treated like scum. DC is the sub-bilge sump pit of the country. I never found cheap fuel again, so when my 2 drums were used out, I took out the system and never used it again. But it was quite handy for the time in DC, because I could not find any fuel closer than almost to baltimore. Apparently, it is more common in the past 30 years, since the 300Ds and Diesel pickups got more popular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
Rich, tell your daughter There's an app for that: Gas Buddy. Fantastic when traveling. On my last trip to WDC area, returning on 95, I needed to stop for diesel. Gas Buddy found a station a mile off the freeway that was about twenty cents cheaper than the stations right off the exit ramp. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
On 28/05/2015 11:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... Naaa. Kaleb's a rich rancher with an image to maintain. He needs one of these. http://thundercreekequipment.com/products/standard-trailers.html Made right down the road from Pella winders and Vermeer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqaxiG8op8 ___ What is wrong with the portable tanks that we see in pickup trucks for tradespeople who use them to fill dozers etc? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. For my one trip to DC, I had cheap fuel available, so I put 2 30 gal barrels in the trunk of the 110.110 hooked them together, then fed a line with a valve into a T in the return fuel line. When the tank got low, I opened the valve in the trunk and drove until the gauge showed full. Then i'd stop and shut off the valve. Worked great. Yes, the trunk on the 110/111/112 was so big I could easily fit 2 30 gal barrels into it., along with our luggage, tools etc. Try that in your 140 or 210/211 Kaleb! After 2 of the 5 days in DC i was ready to leave. When I was finally able to leave, I was so sick of the place, I NEVER want to go back. Waste, fraud, and abuse; nobody but people in the construction or service industries actually do any constructive work, and they are treated like scum. DC is the sub-bilge sump pit of the country. I never found cheap fuel again, so when my 2 drums were used out, I took out the system and never used it again. But it was quite handy for the time in DC, because I could not find any fuel closer than almost to baltimore. Apparently, it is more common in the past 30 years, since the 300Ds and Diesel pickups got more popular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
My daughter had her 300SD the last coupla weeks, Wed evening we stopped at coupla stations looking for dizzel, one looked promising with a yellow handle on the pump, turned out it was E85. We gave up, she left yesterday morning after dropping me at the aerodrome, she had about 1/3 tank so I figured that would get her far enough out into America that she could find some dizzel. BTW we were up there for the boy's gradjamacation from medical school, which was a Big *** Deal! (We drive by Joe's house a coupla times, including yesterday morning, but he did not join us for the event). I am driving up there again tomorrow in the Suburban to move him to Providence for his residency. Ugh. --R On 5/29/15 11:05 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. For my one trip to DC, I had cheap fuel available, so I put 2 30 gal barrels in the trunk of the 110.110 hooked them together, then fed a line with a valve into a T in the return fuel line. When the tank got low, I opened the valve in the trunk and drove until the gauge showed full. Then i'd stop and shut off the valve. Worked great. Yes, the trunk on the 110/111/112 was so big I could easily fit 2 30 gal barrels into it., along with our luggage, tools etc. Try that in your 140 or 210/211 Kaleb! After 2 of the 5 days in DC i was ready to leave. When I was finally able to leave, I was so sick of the place, I NEVER want to go back. Waste, fraud, and abuse; nobody but people in the construction or service industries actually do any constructive work, and they are treated like scum. DC is the sub-bilge sump pit of the country. I never found cheap fuel again, so when my 2 drums were used out, I took out the system and never used it again. But it was quite handy for the time in DC, because I could not find any fuel closer than almost to baltimore. Apparently, it is more common in the past 30 years, since the 300Ds and Diesel pickups got more popular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
No, he has the old Caddy, he was not inclined to keep fooling with an old Benz, though the Cad is starting to show some symptoms of age. He'll be at the Brown U Hospital primarily, and at various other places too on occasion. Are you near Providence (I have a sense you are) -- I am headed up there Monday from DC, will probably be a quick turnaround after I get him unloaded, leave on Tues. --R On 5/29/15 12:02 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: So will he have a Benz in Providence? ChowdahQ only about 25 miles south of the City. Where is he doing his residency? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
I am thinking the race car hauler will be the dual axle base of a free on CL thrashed camp trailer. There are a number of them available. All I need is to haul it out of some neo fascist red neck while supremacist's wooded back country fortress. clay On May 28, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... Naaa. Kaleb's a rich rancher with an image to maintain. He needs one of these. http://thundercreekequipment.com/products/standard-trailers.html Made right down the road from Pella winders and Vermeer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqaxiG8op8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
Congratulations to da boy doc and the family! ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel My daughter had her 300SD the last coupla weeks, Wed evening we stopped at coupla stations looking for dizzel, one looked promising with a yellow handle on the pump, turned out it was E85. We gave up, she left yesterday morning after dropping me at the aerodrome, she had about 1/3 tank so I figured that would get her far enough out into America that she could find some dizzel. BTW we were up there for the boy's gradjamacation from medical school, which was a Big *** Deal! (We drive by Joe's house a coupla times, including yesterday morning, but he did not join us for the event). I am driving up there again tomorrow in the Suburban to move him to Providence for his residency. Ugh. --R On 5/29/15 11:05 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. For my one trip to DC, I had cheap fuel available, so I put 2 30 gal barrels in the trunk of the 110.110 hooked them together, then fed a line with a valve into a T in the return fuel line. When the tank got low, I opened the valve in the trunk and drove until the gauge showed full. Then i'd stop and shut off the valve. Worked great. Yes, the trunk on the 110/111/112 was so big I could easily fit 2 30 gal barrels into it., along with our luggage, tools etc. Try that in your 140 or 210/211 Kaleb! After 2 of the 5 days in DC i was ready to leave. When I was finally able to leave, I was so sick of the place, I NEVER want to go back. Waste, fraud, and abuse; nobody but people in the construction or service industries actually do any constructive work, and they are treated like scum. DC is the sub-bilge sump pit of the country. I never found cheap fuel again, so when my 2 drums were used out, I took out the system and never used it again. But it was quite handy for the time in DC, because I could not find any fuel closer than almost to baltimore. Apparently, it is more common in the past 30 years, since the 300Ds and Diesel pickups got more popular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
On 29/05/2015 1:45 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I am thinking the race car hauler will be the dual axle base of a free on CL thrashed camp trailer. There are a number of them available. All I need is to haul it out of some neo fascist red neck while supremacist's wooded back country fortress. clay We had a camper trailer that leaked and was not worth the effort to repair properly. We stripped it to the frame and I have the frame and running gear and am considering making it into a flat bed trailer. I do not think it heavy duty enough to haul a car. It might be beefed up enough if one truly wanted to do so but it would take some steel and some welding. It would be ok for hauling quads or snow mobiles or lumber etc but I would not wish to haul any sort of car on it. The frame rails are not too bad but the cross members are very light. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
I was more interested in the running gear being able to handle the weight. Beefing up the frame may set me back a few hundred $$, whereas purchase of a purpose made trailer would be a grand or more. If I strip down an SD, then I have the muscle to move it too. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On May 29, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 29/05/2015 1:45 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I am thinking the race car hauler will be the dual axle base of a free on CL thrashed camp trailer. There are a number of them available. All I need is to haul it out of some neo fascist red neck while supremacist's wooded back country fortress. clay We had a camper trailer that leaked and was not worth the effort to repair properly. We stripped it to the frame and I have the frame and running gear and am considering making it into a flat bed trailer. I do not think it heavy duty enough to haul a car. It might be beefed up enough if one truly wanted to do so but it would take some steel and some welding. It would be ok for hauling quads or snow mobiles or lumber etc but I would not wish to haul any sort of car on it. The frame rails are not too bad but the cross members are very light. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
The subject seems to have wandered, imagine that :-) I did some years in the marine industry... Your standard 5 lug trailer hub/axle uses a 1 1/16 X 1 3/8 spindle and the GVW on that should be 3500# per axle. In Wa. State you will need brakes on both axles if your GVW is over 3000#, these also use a 10 brake drum and backing plate set. Bearings, axles, hubs, drums and backing plates were all standardized in the '80s so parts are not much of a problem. If you find an older trailer you might find the 6 lug hub axle combo and those are around 6000# GVW for each axle but probably not. Send me a message if you need parts once you find a trailer, I still do IT work for a certain marine shop and am long time friends with the owners. dave Lynnwood, WA '95 E300d (on the road again) '82 300CD '94 Volvo 960 '73 GMC 23' motorhome (FWD) I was more interested in the running gear being able to handle the weight. Beefing up the frame may set me back a few hundred $$, whereas purchase of a purpose made trailer would be a grand or more. If I strip down an SD, then I have the muscle to move it too. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
That's what I pictured when ya mentioned it. ;) ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Tech tip, I forgot.. Cut the bottom end of the PVC pipe at about a 30 degree angle so it won't suck down to the bottom of the barrel and stall the pump. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:43 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel
For us, it was ALWAYS next year. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel I tip my hat to anyone who can get rich farming... I've been involved in farming in one way or another for over 60 years and I've had two good years.. 1958 and next year... ;)) On a practical note.. fuel thieves abound in todays world.. and anyone can hook to that nice fancy trailer and pull off with a load of your money in fuel.. poor boy barrels.. not so much.. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... Naaa. Kaleb's a rich rancher with an image to maintain. He needs one of these. http://thundercreekequipment.com/products/standard-trailers.html Made right down the road from Pella winders and Vermeer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqaxiG8op8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I live south of Providence but will be in Boston Monday Tuesday. On May 29, 2015 1:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No, he has the old Caddy, he was not inclined to keep fooling with an old Benz, though the Cad is starting to show some symptoms of age. He'll be at the Brown U Hospital primarily, and at various other places too on occasion. Are you near Providence (I have a sense you are) -- I am headed up there Monday from DC, will probably be a quick turnaround after I get him unloaded, leave on Tues. --R On 5/29/15 12:02 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: So will he have a Benz in Providence? ChowdahQ only about 25 miles south of the City. Where is he doing his residency? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt wrote: We get non-taxable diesel delivered for the snowmobile trail groomers at a substantial discount over taxed diesel. Granted we buy 200 gallons a week during the season... Curly wrote: For 200 gal Diesel and 400 to 500 Diesel, they would grudgingly come out. Aye, but Curly you live in big farm country. 200 gallons won't fill one of those big tractors twice. The big farms skip the jobber entirely. They have 10,000 gallon tanks and just get a semiload from the terminal The smartest one I saw had 750 head they milk, plus the ancillary cattle, I don't know how many acres they farmed but they had all 1974 or older internationals, and grew sunflowers. They had a little German mill that cold pressed the sunflower oil and they mixed the meal to feed cattle and made BioD out of the oil. They ran 100% BioD most of the year, and blended it in the winter. They bought very little fuel and little feed. It was slick. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt wrote: We get non-taxable diesel delivered for the snowmobile trail groomers at a substantial discount over taxed diesel. Granted we buy 200 gallons a week during the season... Curly wrote: For 200 gal Diesel and 400 to 500 Diesel, they would grudgingly come out. Aye, but Curly you live in big farm country. 200 gallons won't fill one of those big tractors twice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: I would like to find some sort of diesel tank on a trailer I can take down and fill up and haul back home If it's more than about 120 gallons or so, and it's not connected to your engine, it is required to have a HAZMAT placard. Just so you know. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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top off the tank On May 27, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would like to find some sort of diesel tank on a trailer I can take down and fill up and haul back home Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Around here they don't want to come out for only 200 gallons. I had trouble getting them to deliver for the 500 gal gasoline tank. When gasoline (benzin) hit $4/gal, I quit using the tank and went to 5 gal buckets. For 200 gal Diesel and 400 to 500 Diesel, they would grudgingly come out. I suspect being dipped is more common in farm country. I've never even HEARD of anybody getting dipped. We get non-taxable diesel delivered for the snowmobile trail groomers at a substantial discount over taxed diesel. Granted we buy 200 gallons a week during the season... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at the pump in town. You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the pickup. It is unlikely with a car. I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my W140Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Around here they don't want to come out for only 200 gallons. I had trouble getting them to deliver for the 500 gal gasoline tank. When gasoline (benzin) hit $4/gal, I quit using the tank and went to 5 gal buckets. For 200 gal Diesel and 400 to 500 Diesel, they would grudgingly come out. I suspect being dipped is more common in farm country. I've never even HEARD of anybody getting dipped. We get non-taxable diesel delivered for the snowmobile trail groomers at a substantial discount over taxed diesel. Granted we buy 200 gallons a week during the season... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at the pump in town. You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the pickup. It is unlikely with a car. I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my W140Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tech tip, I forgot.. Cut the bottom end of the PVC pipe at about a 30 degree angle so it won't suck down to the bottom of the barrel and stall the pump. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:43 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... Naaa. Kaleb's a rich rancher with an image to maintain. He needs one of these. http://thundercreekequipment.com/products/standard-trailers.html Made right down the road from Pella winders and Vermeer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqaxiG8op8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I tip my hat to anyone who can get rich farming... I've been involved in farming in one way or another for over 60 years and I've had two good years.. 1958 and next year... ;)) On a practical note.. fuel thieves abound in todays world.. and anyone can hook to that nice fancy trailer and pull off with a load of your money in fuel.. poor boy barrels.. not so much.. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: To Kaleb, re, hauling diesel and lack of a tank. I use 4 ea. 55 gallon metal barrels. I have hauled them both in the bed of my F450 and my F350 pickup, and on my two axle flatbed trailer. In each case, I strap all 4 barrels together with two ea. two inch wide ratchet straps, which gives them decent stability both empty and full. The steel 55 gallon barrels have metal bungs which will seal up fuel tight, and I use a Harbor Freight 12 volt pump with 3/4 inch tubing to pump the fuel out of the barrels into my Ranch tank.. I made up some stingers from schedule 40 PVC 3/4 inch pipe to stick down the barrel and stick into the Ranch Tank. I use clear poly tubing from Ace hardware from those to the pump, [lets me see if fuel is flowing] and alligator clamps and landscaping low voltage wire to run from the truck battery to the pump, with a 12V on/off switch at the pump.. Takes about 15 to 20 minutes to pump off 55 gallons, but it's a poor mans way to haul fuel, and have control over cost of tanks.. I picked up the 55 gal barrels used once [had engine oil original use] for $5 each. HTH.. Grant... Naaa. Kaleb's a rich rancher with an image to maintain. He needs one of these. http://thundercreekequipment.com/products/standard-trailers.html Made right down the road from Pella winders and Vermeer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqaxiG8op8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect being dipped is more common in farm country. I've never even HEARD of anybody getting dipped. We get non-taxable diesel delivered for the snowmobile trail groomers at a substantial discount over taxed diesel. Granted we buy 200 gallons a week during the season... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at the pump in town. You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the pickup. It is unlikely with a car. I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my W140Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've found that my Jetta is very sensitive to fuel. The cheapest station around gives me around a 3mpg loss of mileage while the most expensive gives about a 1mpg gain over the mid range stations which are all about the same.Based on the most expensive station being usually around $0.20 more expensive I generally avoid it unless we're going on a long trip and I want a long distance tank. I also avoid the cheapest station unless I absolutely have to stop there. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel I have found that calculating the cost per mile at each station is the best way to determine which station to use. I keep a log for each diesel car. This levels that playing field by accounting for inaccurate pumps. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Pends on ambient temp and whether I'm gonna keep driving or immediately park it to bake (expand) in the hot sun. Most times, I wait for foam to dissipate and pack more in. BTW, visitors at the air show few days ago were alarmed that the B-52H on display in the hot sun was leaking fuel and had been cordoned off. 'Overfilled with cold fuel at night; expanded in hot sun and overflowed via tank vents. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pumping diesel When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't forget: One of life's most useless things (sometimes critical) is empty space in top of fuel tank. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same point in neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to release trapped bubbles and pack in some more. Ya never know when ya might need that last cup full. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might vary from pump to pump Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on what I'm after, if its a long distance drive I'll wait. The Jetta in particular will hold almost two whole gallons more, thats nearly 100 miles on the highway.Most of the time I don't bother. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pumping diesel When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might vary from pump to pump Sent from my iPhone NOW the truth comes out. I answered yes originally to both questions because I suspected Kaleb didn't explain his real question. My stock answer to an either-or double question is yes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you keep an elevated tank and fill from gravity, you don't get ANY foaming. Ask any farmer with an elevated Diesel tank. Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same point in neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to release trapped bubbles and pack in some more. Ya never know when ya might need that last cup full. ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you keep an elevated tank and fill from gravity, you don't get ANY foaming. Ask any farmer with an elevated Diesel tank. Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same point in neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to release trapped bubbles and pack in some more. Ya never know when ya might need that last cup full. ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I'd like to have some a that farm Diesel, too. (Notice I still say too, not that new-fangled as well. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you keep an elevated tank and fill from gravity, you don't get ANY foaming. Ask any farmer with an elevated Diesel tank. Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same point in neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to release trapped bubbles and pack in some more. Ya never know when ya might need that last cup full. ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I used to do this endlessly in order to ge a REALLY full fuel tank. Now I just pump to the initial shutoff and call it a day. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ Yes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I let it stop when the foam shuts the pump off. Life is too short to spend time trying to get the last drop (or gallon) into the tank. This is easier when your Diesel car will go 800 miles on a full tank, 750 on an almost full tank :-) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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800 miles? How big is your fuel tank, Don? On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I let it stop when the foam shuts the pump off. Life is too short to spend time trying to get the last drop (or gallon) into the tank. This is easier when your Diesel car will go 800 miles on a full tank, 750 on an almost full tank :-) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Depends on what I'm after, if its a long distance drive I'll wait. The Jetta in particular will hold almost two whole gallons more, thats nearly 100 miles on the highway.Most of the time I don't bother. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pumping diesel When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, but it gets tedious doesn't it? On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ Yes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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To try to get accurate mileage calculations, wait for the foam to go down and keep adding until you see liquid. You said it - no way to know the volume of the foam, which may even vary with temperature. Even when waiting for the foam to go down, there are several factors working against you, like the accuracy of the pump calibration, orientation of the filler neck relative to the tank if not parked on level ground, and the temperature of the fuel (warmer fuel is less dense). - Max Charleston SC On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might vary from pump to pump ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 27/05/2015 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: 800 miles? How big is your fuel tank, Don? Andrew, you have to remember that these cars all do at least 40 mpg so that only requires a 20 gallon tank. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might vary from pump to pump Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on what I'm after, if its a long distance drive I'll wait. The Jetta in particular will hold almost two whole gallons more, thats nearly 100 miles on the highway.Most of the time I don't bother. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Pumping diesel When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 27/05/2015 11:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might vary from pump to pump I would suggest that you do the same process each time whether it be to stop when the pump kicks off or to try to fill more once the foam settles a bit and then average over a long while and not be too concerned about the exact mileage of each fill. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My brother's SDL has a 30 gallon tank, and will go nearly 900 miles on a full one. He filled up once on the way from home to Alexandria, VA. My 87 300D holds 20, and in good weather I can easily to 500 miles before stopping to re-fuel. The Golf will hold quite a bit more (at least 1.5 gal) if you let the foam subside, and that gets me around 600 before a fillup. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes what? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ Yes Yes to your questions. When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off (Yes, sometimes) or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? (Yes, sometimes) If I need extra range or I know the next time I need fuel it will be more expensive, I will try to get in as much fuel as possible. Lately I have been putting in about 6 gal at a time, because that lasts me a week or more. I filled up the SDL in Feb and it lasted into Apr. When fuel was over $4, i started shutting off the pump at $30 unless I was on a long trip and would need to fill again the same day. ( as a protest of sorts at over $60 to fill the car.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes what? Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam go down and pump more in? Sent from my iPhone ___ Yes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at the pump in town. You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the pickup. It is unlikely with a car. I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my W140Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I filled my W108 280SE REALLY full on a hot summer day in D.C. (100 F.), then drove home about 10 miles and parked in the carport. Gasoline began gushing out of the (through) the filler cap, Scary! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at the pump in town. You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the pickup. It is unlikely with a car. I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel Sent from my W140Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have found that calculating the cost per mile at each station is the best way to determine which station to use. I keep a log for each diesel car. This levels that playing field by accounting for inaccurate pumps. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The way to get accurate milage calculations is to do them over several tanks. this will average out the differences in fill, although it won't help much with pump variations unless you always use the same pump -- I can to and from work, but on the road, no. Otherwise fill the same way at as close to the same rate as you can every time you fill up, whether it be stop when the foam shuts off the pump or until you cannot get more fuel in, doesn't matter. The only way to get really accurate milage numbers is to weigh the fuel, though. And don't forget that the only place in the supply chain the variation in volume with temperature is NOT calculated is at the dispensing pump -- as the summer tails off the fuel will be warmer than earlier by a few degrees and you will get less fuel (by weight) than in Spring when the ground is colder. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lol, that 26 gallon tank with the filler six inches higher than the top doesn't give you much room for expansion! That is why, in fact, the instructions always say not to top off the tank. Not a problem for me, as I'm half a gallon away from home most of the time I fill up, and likely a gallon or more, but something to consider if you are going to park the car on a hot day immediately after filling it up. The ground temperature is usually in the 50's, so half a gallon more in the tank wouldn't be a surprise on a 26 gallon tank... Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I track mileage, carefully. That doesn't work if you don't have a constant fill point. Yes, it's tedious. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On some of our vehicles the load varies wildly (truck!), so I like to keep a close eye on mileage. It can help tame my wife's lead foot. Also, sudden mileage drops can indicate something that needs addressing. I have always done it this way, my entire life. On the farm, in college, since then... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumping diesel Jim wrote: Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off. Andrew wrote: Yeah, but it gets tedious doesn't it? Fueling? Yes. Waiting a bit to get another 25+ miles of range? No. I drive long miles [kilometers] so it's easily worth it to me to let the foam settle, shake the car a bit, and get more fuel in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim wrote: Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off. Andrew wrote: Yeah, but it gets tedious doesn't it? Fueling? Yes. Waiting a bit to get another 25+ miles of range? No. I drive long miles [kilometers] so it's easily worth it to me to let the foam settle, shake the car a bit, and get more fuel in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
