Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
And frightens away any snakes, too? -D > On Nov 26, 2023, at 7:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On the other hand, the hissing helps drown out any tinnitus one has. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Built in leaks that you can chase for the rest of your life, or until you burn the shop down. Terrific idea. /sarcasm... -Curt On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:37:45 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for >> your shop >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Pex-Al-Pex is what the air line kit I bought uses. I think the fittings were special. I don't think that something that can explode and send srapnel in the shop is a place to save mmoney, though I did shop for the least expensive solution. On Friday, November 24th, 2023 at 5:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that > while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number > of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure. > > What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider using > PEX-AL-PEX, which is PEX with an internal aluminum core. It doesn’t appear to > be all that expensive, but I didn’t look to see if it requires special > fittings or can use standard PEX fittings. 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be > around $140, which doesn’t seem that expensive compared to other materials, > like copper or iron pipe. > > -D > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex > > fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. > > > > On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use > > > SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on > > > the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really > > > quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need > > > or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. > > > > > > Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. > > > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX > > > > fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as > > > > the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change > > > > something. > > > > > > > > I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my > > > > garage too. > > > > > > > > I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the > > > > cottage with no issues so far. > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't > > > > > reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've > > > > > never tried it. > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit > > > > > > fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this > > > > > > will be cheaper. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Typo. 1/2” (one half inch). -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that >> expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. > > 12" ?? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that > expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. 12" ?? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure. What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider using PEX-AL-PEX, which is PEX with an internal aluminum core. It doesn’t appear to be all that expensive, but I didn’t look to see if it requires special fittings or can use standard PEX fittings. 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex fittings > and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. > > On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use >> SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on >> the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. >> It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a >> kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. >> >> Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. >> >> -D >> >>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX >>> fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the >>> cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. >>> >>> I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my >>> garage too. >>> >>> I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage >>> with no issues so far. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings > along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. > > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. -D On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too. I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far. Randy On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX > fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the > cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. > > I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my > garage too. > > I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage > with no issues so far. > > Randy > > On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: >> Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably >> hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along >>> with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. >>> >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
3/4″ Fastpipe 230FT Master Kitrapidairproducts.comKaleb, have you looked at Rapid Air? I asked my engineer son-in-law what he would use and he recommended this company. They have various kits or you can use the site to build your own system. Michael E. EshOn Nov 24, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something.I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too.I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far.RandyOn 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it.On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper.___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too. I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far. Randy On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along > with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: > > > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for > > > your shop > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 > > > > > inch lines. > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > > > > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > > > > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > > > > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at > > > > > > least > > > > > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I > > > > > > will > > > > > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > > > > > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big > > > > > > retractable > > > > > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps > > > > > > along > > > > > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario > > > > > > where > > > > > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" > > > > > > appears > > > > > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > > > > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for >> your shop >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for > your shop > > > > >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: >>> >>> Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch >>> lines. >>> On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for your shop On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch > > lines. > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch > lines. > > > > >> On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least >> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will >> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the >> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable >> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along >> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where >> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. >> >> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Most of these kits have drain valves in the bottom of each drop/outlet Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you > can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > Fred. > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Have you considered using PEX? >> >> Randy >> >>> On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >>> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >>> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >>> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at >>> least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up >>> to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on >>> one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a >>> big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, >>> or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see >>> a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since >>> its just me. >>> >>> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >>> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >>> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >>> >>> ___ >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Craig, et al. My boss got sprayed and didn't like it. Had to refit drain(s). This despite having a water separator and dryer. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 1:02 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Kaleb. > > From my wet learning experience:- > > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that > > you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > > Fred. > > If you take the air from the top of the horizontal line (with the pipe > looking somewhat like a shepherd's crook) you can avoid having drains at > each connection. > > You do, however, need to have a drain. If you slope the horizontal line > away from the compressor, you can have one drain at the end of the line. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that > you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > Fred. If you take the air from the top of the horizontal line (with the pipe looking somewhat like a shepherd's crook) you can avoid having drains at each connection. You do, however, need to have a drain. If you slope the horizontal line away from the compressor, you can have one drain at the end of the line. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Kaleb. From my wet learning experience:- If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. BTDT. Felt like an idiot. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Have you considered using PEX? > > Randy > > On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at > > least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up > > to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on > > one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a > > big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, > > or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see > > a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since > > its just me. > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Have you considered using PEX? Randy On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:15 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming > OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening > the main off switch to your compressor. > Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch. > Air leak = air compressor running = continuous running = compressor failure > or motor overheat = shop fire or great expense. > Plus, being able to close pressure to all airlines lets you repair or > reconfigure at any time desired. > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least >> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will >> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the >> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable >> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along >> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where >> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. >> >> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening the main off switch to your compressor. Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch. Air leak = air compressor running = continuous running = compressor failure or motor overheat = shop fire or great expense. Plus, being able to close pressure to all airlines lets you repair or reconfigure at any time desired. On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shop air lines
I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
