Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Imagine a cellulose dingleb*rry. On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:41 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I still am not sure what exactly a hanging chad is. > > Ever used a worn hole punch, where the bit of the future confetti hung on > by a thread? > Like that. But on a

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Oh On 12/17/2020 8:40 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I still am not sure what exactly a hanging chad is. Ever used a worn hole punch, where the bit of the future confetti hung on by a thread? Like that. But on a ballot of the sort where you punch out the little paper squares to vote. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Showing your (young) age Kaleb! A "hanging chad" is a partially detached punch-out on an IBM data card. You probably don't remember people carrying around huge boxes of IBM punch cards, I've not seen a punch machine in use since 1983 when SIU retired their last one. The Votomatic system used

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I still am not sure what exactly a hanging chad is. Ever used a worn hole punch, where the bit of the future confetti hung on by a thread? Like that. But on a ballot of the sort where you punch out the little paper squares to vote. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I still am not sure what exactly a hanging chad is. On 12/17/2020 12:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Roger, don’t put words in my mouth, we both know that’s not what I said. Rather than obfuscate try dropping the sarcasm and accept that I gave examples based on my experience working the

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Came across this for Coffee Cty Ga - haven't heard of this elsewhere but it shows the voting machine process beginning to end along with the possible flaws. One thing they show is the ballots can be fed thru two or more times.  That shouldn't be. Anyway, there are more open doors for flaws

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Interesting about working the polls, though. Let's all do that and report back. On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:56 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, I think things have run their course and could be continued > elsewhere if people choose to do so. > > And Kaleb got his

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I think things have run their course and could be continued elsewhere if people choose to do so. And Kaleb got his answer. -D > On Dec 17, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > Dan, > Time to pull plug on this political stuff? > Dwight > > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Roger, don’t put words in my mouth, we both know that’s not what I said. Rather than obfuscate try dropping the sarcasm and accept that I gave examples based on my experience working the polls in several states for a significant amount of time. I didn’t claim my experience to be exhaustive, I

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Dan, I feel much better now knowing that you speak for all voting in the entire USA...NOT. Thumb drives floated around in Fulton County where the votes changed by several hundred thousand. Observers were obstructed. Votes were counted after observers were sent home under the guise of a water

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Sorry guys, but I'm not going to continue a waste of time discussion regarding this election. Yes, the machines should work. And everyone should tell the truth. And Santa Claus does exist. If you want to join the MSM and say any contrary opinion is a misstatement, then that is your right.

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is content far more appropriate for Okie Talk, suffice to say that the courts have spoken regarding the various lawsuits and found all without merit. Being that they were filed in numerous (different) venues with a wide range of judges as far as political affiliation and backgrounds, I

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I served as an election judge for early voting in MD and on election day. A substantial number of people who tried to vote in person were denied since the systems had a record of their request for a mail-in ballot. We gave them the option of voting provisionally (their votes were to be counted

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well, how about the evidence that was presented in the ~50 lawsuits that have been filed? Is that evidence worth looking at? This link below will take you to a detailed report of the election issues. Dear readers: before you dismiss this report as "right wing conspiracy", keep in mind the case

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Understood, but also consider that checks are being made against the voter registration records as well, so it’s not just a matter of signatures. I agree, I’ve never been comfortable with absentee/mail in ballots for that reason. I can’t say I sign my name in a consistent manner, so what I sign

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It just seems like the very concept of mailing in ballots leaves a lot of room for fraud. Even if checking signatures these are low or no paid workers not signature experts. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-12-17 09:11, Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
FL is a good example of a state doing a terrible job (the 2000 election, Bush v. Gore and the hanging chad etc.) and then learning the hard lesson and making the changes to improve. It seems that other states are learning that hard lesson too, and if the voters in those states desire, they can

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-17 09:11, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It seems to me unless you are military all voting should be done in person with ID. I just do not see how they verify mail in ballots accurately. In person voting could run for a week or 2 instead of 1 day but it should all be in person.

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It seems to me unless you are military all voting should be done in person with ID. I just do not see how they verify mail in ballots accurately. In person voting could run for a week or 2 instead of 1 day but it should all be in person. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:47 AM,

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cite the direct sources for this information, please, Roger. Not news media, the actual sources of the information. Georgia, like most states, has a process for “curing” votes. Like other election processes, it’s highly regulated and audited by members of both political parties. -D > On Dec

Re: [MBZ] This is not political, but a serious question, if you can?t handle it then hit delete

2020-12-17 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Kaleb, Some people are drinking the kolaide. GA. reran the same corrupt votes 3 times without confirming signatures. What's the definition of insanity? The gov and SOS are linked into a voting machine selection scam and therefore have made no REAL steps to isolate the illegal votes,