Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato
I think MB tex works better than kevlar - Original Message - From: "John Ervine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Zeitgeist wr

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto..Now ANTIFREEZE

2006-02-14 Thread Marshall Booth
R A Bennell wrote: Lifetime but we are supposed to change it out every 2 years, right? Randy B who just loves advertising slogans -Original Message- Looks like Peak "lifetime" meets those specs! Marshall It's supposed to be changed when the pH begins to drift up to above about 8 an

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto This reminds me of the logic by which Peru was once touted as a thriving economy. The average yearly income was around

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto..Now ANTIFREEZE

2006-02-13 Thread R A Bennell
Lifetime but we are supposed to change it out every 2 years, right? Randy B who just loves advertising slogans -Original Message- Looks like Peak "lifetime" meets those specs! Marshall --

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread David Brodbeck
redghost wrote: Vertical integration. Henry Ford did that so he could make cheap Model T cars. soup to nuts all the way from the ore to the car, married Firestone to get tires There's an old sawmill in Alberta, Michigan that he built to get timber for building Model T bodies. He wanted t

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
stBuy and the like. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:09:03 -0800 From: redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; forma

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
Get that woman on Extreme Home makeover. See what sort of totally messed up deal she can do then! On Monday, February 13, 2006, at 09:14 AM, Smith, Todd wrote: Hello David, I normally lurk trying to gain enough knowledge to repair my ailing 300CD but I felt that I had to comment on your sta

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread Curt Raymond
em selling technology at BestBuy and the like. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:09:03 -0800 From: redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread Smith, Todd
Hello David, I normally lurk trying to gain enough knowledge to repair my ailing 300CD but I felt that I had to comment on your statement. Unfortunately my wife teaches and has taught the majority of her career in both Alabama and West Virginia where we currently live. "Welfare queens" are n

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto..Now ANTIFREEZE

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
Bruce, All the hard workers seem to come from south of the Rio Grande around Seattle. There and National Guard. Lots of remodel homes were left high last two years when all the labor went to Iraq. Able to replace it with hard working fellows at $9/hr, but just for grunt work. I am trying

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
We can afford a bunch of those G5 Macs running in parallel too. Think one school in VA had a thousand of them as a super computer. Upgraded from G4 to G5 and sold the old ones at pennies on the dollar On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 07:50 PM, OK Don wrote: LinTel isn't that powerful - it's

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto..Now ANTIFREEZE

2006-02-13 Thread Marshall Booth
B Dike wrote: Now for MB content: Are any of the Prestone products acceptable for Benz? Getting hard to find the Zerex G-05. I expect that any low-silicate, low-pH, phosphate-free, pre-charged formula that meets all of these standards (Chrysler MS 9769, MTU approved, Daimler Chrysler ap

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread lee
LinTel? Are those Beowulf Clusters? An ASU professor gave a presentation to our Phoenix Linux Users Group a year or so ago- one of his hobbies was buying surplus obsolete PCs from the university at $25 a pop, loading them with Linux and linking them to create Beowulf Clusters in his basement. I

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto..Now ANTIFREEZE

2006-02-13 Thread B Dike
Blue collar skills seem to be in short supply in Seattle. A local construction union chief was quoted in the newspaper saying they were having serious trouble recruiting apprentices ($45K/yr after 1 year). Guys would show up on the job site and quit before noon, found out they had to dig h

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread OK Don
LinTel isn't that powerful - it's just that you (or someone) can afford a LOT of them On 2/12/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LinTel may be powerful, but it is the humongo power of the parallel G5 > super computers that gets my prostate pumping > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 30

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
LinTel may be powerful, but it is the humongo power of the parallel G5 super computers that gets my prostate pumping On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 06:42 PM, OK Don wrote: With all the LinTel super computers out there now, I wouldn't think that would be a very secure job --- http://www.top5

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
We care, we vote, and we will make your children think that they sprang whole from the spit of a spiteful god five thousand years ago. BTW, the stars are not really up there far away, that is an optical delusion induced by the Vatican in response to Galileo On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
right redghost wrote: Vertical integration. Henry Ford did that so he could make cheap Model T cars. soup to nuts all the way from the ore to the car, married Firestone to get tires -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
Vertical integration. Henry Ford did that so he could make cheap Model T cars. soup to nuts all the way from the ore to the car, married Firestone to get tires On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 08:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I remember when walmart first started selling groceries in the

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread OK Don
With all the LinTel super computers out there now, I wouldn't think that would be a very secure job --- http://www.top500.org/lists/2005/11/basic On 2/12/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe you can get a work at home job with Cray. I have a pal working > there. Not sure how solvent

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
Maybe you can get a work at home job with Cray. I have a pal working there. Not sure how solvent they are anymore though On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 09:30 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I would venture forth and find me work

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread redghost
I guess old Ross Perot was not hiring at EDS. On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 09:17 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 2/11/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you. Again - n

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Rentfro
ry 12, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Zeitgeist wrote: Whoa there Tex, the kevlar reference is a common and largely innocuous online term used when posting something that could possibly be perceived as a "flame"--which is yet another online term used to describe a re

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Ervine
Zeitgeist wrote: Whoa there Tex, the kevlar reference is a common and largely innocuous online term used when posting something that could possibly be perceived as a "flame"--which is yet another online term used to describe a repudiation of another's stated position, but not generally considered

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
Whoa there Tex, the kevlar reference is a common and largely innocuous online term used when posting something that could possibly be perceived as a "flame"--which is yet another online term used to describe a repudiation of another's stated position, but not generally considered to be threatening.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
- Original Message - From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto My, aren't we the pleasant one today. On 2/12/06, pau

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey... What did you guys have for breakfast..?? Seems to me that the purpose of this List is to talk about our Mercedes-Benz autos and how we can HELP one another! Give it a break. As for me, the above subject just gets the DELETE key! Now back to your regularly scheduled program..

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul
i haven't made any death-threats. why don't you direct your affection in his direction? p. Zeitgeist wrote: My, aren't we the pleasant one today. On 2/12/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, in comparison to the guy that told me to put on a bulletproof kevlar vest. nice tunnel-visio

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
My, aren't we the pleasant one today. On 2/12/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, in comparison to the guy that told me to put on a bulletproof > kevlar vest. > > nice tunnel-vision, genius. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler (211k

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul
yes, in comparison to the guy that told me to put on a bulletproof kevlar vest. nice tunnel-vision, genius. p. Zeitgeist wrote: Ah yes, another compassionate conservative, caring and sharing.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
Ah yes, another compassionate conservative, caring and sharing. On 2/12/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevlar? What are you gonna do to me, Eddie? > > Oh, and by the way.i don't give a rat's ass what you take offense > to. Sorry your life sucks so badly lately. Casey Olympia, WA Biod

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth
John Berryman wrote: Thanks Marshall, its all becoming clear to me now. How did they change the product, or did they? The M-1 Ext products increased the quantity of group V oil stock in the IV/V mix. It SHOULD be a better oil. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to u

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul
Kevlar? What are you gonna do to me, Eddie? Oh, and by the way.i don't give a rat's ass what you take offense to. Sorry your life sucks so badly lately. p. Ed Booher wrote: On 2/11/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Johnny B., As you know, I Mac, too.. I'm running 10.4.4 on my iBook G4. And Mac Mail does work very well And for the times I need to use a pc... It's there then too. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 12, 2006, at 10:35 AM, John Berryman wrote: It may be good but

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
Yes, but Gmail organizes every thread automatically. It's free and really is the best tool for viewing and managing listservs--it's all I use it for these days. On 2/12/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can easily set my computer to auto-delete by subject, content etc. Cas

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > 10 to work at walmart is pretty good.. Thats more than alot of people make. Unfortunately, associates make less than dept managers. At Meijers, everybody is unionized, and the cashiers make about $12-14. I try to shop there for the stuff they are competitive on. (Wa

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh its about over I have a feeling John Berryman wrote: On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 10 to work at walmart is pretty good.. Thats more than alot of people make. Luther Gulseth wrote: Klebbie, Do us all a favor and kill this thread, pleas

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 11:25 AM, Zeitgeist wrote: You really need Gmail--this thread has (mostly) stayed in one neat little box, for me to either view, archive or delete, at will. Get Gmail now and you'll never be bothered by these long rambling OT diatribes again. I can e

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
r my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560S

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
You really need Gmail--this thread has (mostly) stayed in one neat little box, for me to either view, archive or delete, at will. Get Gmail now and you'll never be bothered by these long rambling OT diatribes again. On 2/12/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Klebbie, Do us all

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: how much is amsoil anyways? John Berryman wrote: Depends on which oil, from $5.20 - $8.75. I think I will stick with the Euro formula 5w-40 full synthetic @$6.85 retail but as a dealer it would be roughly 20% less. If

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 10 to work at walmart is pretty good.. Thats more than alot of people make. Luther Gulseth wrote: Klebbie, Do us all a favor and kill this thread, please. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
how much is amsoil anyways? John Berryman wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: but I still have never seen a 5qt 5w40 Wanna see a quart of Amsoil full synthetic 5w-40? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, I bet 80% of their business is on debit/credit cards. John Berryman wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:06 PM, paul wrote: been in a Wal-Mart lately, Johnathan B.? p. Yes, just the other day. Looking for Mobil 1 tranny fluid and/or 15-50 found 2qts of 15-50, no tranny fl

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I remember when walmart first started selling groceries in their stores (claremore got one of the first supercenters since sam waltons wife is from here and her family is still here). At that time I think it had a video store, and like a hair place in there. I said then (early 90's) that next

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
l Message - From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr. ~ ~from what I understand they pay pretty decen

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
10 to work at walmart is pretty good.. Thats more than alot of people make. Luther Gulseth wrote: Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr. ~ ~from what I understand they pay pretty decent for what sort of job it ~is, and they promote from within. Its a good way for other

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread lee
This reminds me of the logic by which Peru was once touted as a thriving economy. The average yearly income was around $20,000 per person, which sounds damn good for a south american country. On closer investigation, though, that was an average with considerable skew - most Peruvians lived in

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
, 2006 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto On 2/11/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you. Again - no one is forcing anybody to work there

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Tom Scordato
;Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I would venture forth and f

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: > > Pity to hear about Iffy Lube being so picky, I was holding > that prospect in reserve. They accepted me at first opportunity, and knew I was a certified master mechanic according to my state license. I ended up turning them down to go back to college.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
It's rough being Overqualified. When I was in my late 20's i decided to go back to college. I sold everything farm and all and figured I'd have no trouble getting a min wage job to cover the bare expensesBZZZT WRONG! Eveerywhere I went, overqualified, I had made too much money. Nobody woul

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey
But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then seven, then 3 months. This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May. No sign of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still qualified in.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages, > > A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and > mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo. I don't know > if that was for two, or her projected figure once nu

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/11/06, paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If taking some personal moral high-road based on things you've seen on > Dateline or 60 Minutes floats your boat, then good for you. > > Again - no one is forcing anybody to work there. If you work for > Wal-Mart and find their employment practices una

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 09:15 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: M-1 15W-50 Ext was about $26 for a 5 qt jug when 5W-40 T&SUV was $21+. Marshall -- Thanks Marshall, its all becoming clear to me now. How did they change the product, or did they? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Harry Watkins
I hate to hear you guys are not going to Walmart, makes my profit slow down on the stock I hold. I've had a position for many years and love it when we come up with a better way. Ever notice how far away you have to park? I have probably been inside and personal with more national companies than

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 09:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Remember Marshall is talking about 5w40, the 15w50 now marketed under the extended useage is more expensive... -Curt Maybe that's why I saw a price increase. I saw extended use on the bottle but wasn't aware that it is

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Marshall Booth
John Berryman wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:53 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: At my Wal-Mart, 5 qt jugs of M-1 5W-40 T&SUV (when they have it) costs $21 and a few pennies while qt bottles are $5 and change. Marshall That has been my experience in the past but, like I said the 5qt

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Berryman wrote: > Some forward thinking Cos have in house day care and allow nursing > mothers a few extra breaks so they may nourish their children. > The parents save on ridiculously overpriced day care, No kidding. I couldn't believe the $1700 a month quote for one family with two or thre

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:14 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo. I don't know if that was for two, or her projected figure once number three was in drop-off mode in a few weeks. Steep.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 07:01 PM, paul wrote: I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance. I can think of 4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health insurance. There are options. Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month for the wife and I),

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 06:53 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: At my Wal-Mart, 5 qt jugs of M-1 5W-40 T&SUV (when they have it) costs $21 and a few pennies while qt bottles are $5 and change. Marshall That has been my experience in the past but, like I said the 5qt was sold at the sam

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
paul wrote: > > I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance. Fortunately for you, it's a front page deduction from AGI. Employees have to buy insurance with after tax dollars. I'm glad it got fixed for you, (was 60% deductible a few years ago) but I think the employed should have that

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: > > You could start as a lower class trailer trash kid, go to work in an > auto plant, and lift yourself into the middle class. If you were good, > you could even climb into the white collar ranks and eventually retire > comfortably with a nice pension, a boat, and a cabin

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread l02turner
r my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto paul wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: No, you&

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Zeitgeist
A'yup, an often overlooked little factoid--think military industrial complex for a textbook case study in corporate welfare run amok. On 2/11/06, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large > corporations dwarfs that going to the poor -

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Tom Scordato
nt: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large corporations dwarfs that going to the poor -- On 2/11/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages, A former coworker of mine has three kids, one a new baby, and mentioned in passing that day care was $1700/mo. I don't know if that was for two, or her projected figure once number three was in drop-off mode in a few weeks. Steep. --

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread David Brodbeck
paul wrote: > I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance. I can think of > 4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health > insurance. There are options. Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month > for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread paul
I'm self-employed, and pay for my own health insurance. I can think of 4 or 5 friends that are also self-employed, and pay for their own health insurance. There are options. Yes, it's expensive (around $400/month for the wife and I), but readily available to anyone wanting it. p. David Bro

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Tom Scordato wrote: Jeff said "Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a balan

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Agreedalbeit under much more stringent requirements. I live near south dallas, and can personally attest (woul

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Werner Fehlauer
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Agreedalbeit under much more stringent requirements. I live near south dallas, and can personally attest (would y

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
David Brodbeck wrote: No, you're wrong. In our current system, health insurance *is* the responsibility of employers. Bull. That's why it's referred to as a "benefit". It's a perk; a plus; a bonus. I think it's important to have a safety net for people who are unable to find work,

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
L PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white collar jobs were being sent overseas like all the others. An economist would say that it will

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread OK Don
One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large corporations dwarfs that going to the poor -- On 2/11/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I could drag out all the > numbers, but to keep it simple, you can't get welfare just because y

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread OK Don
Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I could drag out all the numbers, but to keep it simple, you can't get welfare just because you don't want to work. You have to fake an on-the-job injury to do that, for any length of time at least. Even then, it's real hard to get the system doctors to

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
iginal Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Your'e kidding. Wow. I didn't look at the link yet, but that's shocking to me - taxpayers p

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: but I still have never seen a 5qt 5w40 Wanna see a quart of Amsoil full synthetic 5w-40? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Brian Chase
I'm sure you're right. I tend to see things as emerging or new, probably owning to my tender age. Brian From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Scordato wrote: > Jeff said > > "Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their > credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a > balance is $9,000!! That's insane!" > > Jeff and they do not care at all that is insane! Fall of the Romans, > n

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 03:06 PM, paul wrote: been in a Wal-Mart lately, Johnathan B.? p. Yes, just the other day. Looking for Mobil 1 tranny fluid and/or 15-50 found 2qts of 15-50, no tranny fluid. Folks were whipping out credit cards like they were going out of style. All

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
paul wrote: > The difference is obvious and quite simple to understand - it's > Wal-Mart's RESPONSIBILITY to keep their lights on - not to provide > health care for it's employees. No, you're wrong. In our current system, health insurance *is* the responsibility of employers. > If subsidizing

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Guess who's buying most of your new debt??? Hmmm, the very

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
The difference is obvious and quite simple to understand - it's Wal-Mart's RESPONSIBILITY to keep their lights on - not to provide health care for it's employees. If subsidizing health care costs for their employees (which is a stretch) bothers you, how could you possibly feel about the welfar

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Rick Knoble
Wal-Mart seems to feel differently -- they've been leaning hard on banks and credit card processors to lower their processing fees, because it's a large expense for them. Recently they filed an application to form their own bank, so they could process their own payments instead of contracting wit

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
Brian Chase wrote: > where one shops seems to say something about them. > This speaks to the emerging classism that may be replacing racism in > this country IMHO. The only part of that statement I'd take issue with is "emerging." It's *always* been a myth that America is a classless society. Th

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
paul wrote: > the type that feels big business should coddle and spoonfeed people, > rather than maximize earnings... The point isn't that I think Wal Mart should "coddle and spoonfeed" people. It's that we're directly subsidizing their high profits with our tax dollars, by paying a cost (health

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
most, as in majority. if only a small percentage of their customer base purchased on credit cards, these preparations would still be completely logical, i would imagine. p. David Brodbeck wrote: paul wrote: i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card. Wal-Mart seems to

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white collar > jobs were being sent overseas like all the others. An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized -- wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread David Brodbeck
paul wrote: > i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card. Wal-Mart seems to feel differently -- they've been leaning hard on banks and credit card processors to lower their processing fees, because it's a large expense for them. Recently they filed an application to form their own ban

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Brian Chase
cretins, er, kids loose in there to tire them out in the free air conditioning or heat). Brian From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA a

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white collar > jobs were being sent overseas like all the others. Things like financial > analyst and all kinds of other white collar jobs are being sent overseas. > Actually, the list of jobs surprised m

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Mitch Haley
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > As far as I know they offer benefits to full time employees, management > or not. And as far as I know, many store managers try very hard to keep the rank & file from meeting the definition of full time. It's just good sense to avoid paying something you don't have

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
doubt (dout) v. doubt·ed, doubt·ing, doubts 3. To regard as unlikely: I doubt that we'll arrive on time. been in a Wal-Mart lately, Johnathan B.? p. John Berryman wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:32 PM, paul wrote: i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card.

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread John Berryman
On Saturday, February 11, 2006, at 02:32 PM, paul wrote: i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card. p. What are you basing that statement on? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread paul
i doubt that most Wal-Mart shoppers have a credit card. p. Jeff Zedic wrote: Guess who's buying most of your new debt??? Hmmm, the very scary China! No respect for the rule of law! I did think that Tom's term "consumer whores" was very appropriate. Did you know that the 70% or so of America

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Jeff Zedic
Guess who's buying most of your new debt??? Hmmm, the very scary China! No respect for the rule of law! I did think that Tom's term "consumer whores" was very appropriate. Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread OK Don
The un-employment figures come from the number of folks looking for work at the state un-employment offices. If they aren't trying there, they aren't counted. It's not a very acurate indicator. > > There *must* be places for those people laid off to get more jobs or our > economy wouldn;t keep gr

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