Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2023-07-22 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
You could be right. I just looked at it and from what I can see up in the fan 
the evaporator coils are completely iced over. It has a mechanical time clock 
defrost timer. I just advanced it to a defrost cycle and the compressor kicked 
off. I will see if it completes a defrost cycle and/or if the timer is 
advancing on its own. I suspect it might be bad. 

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> On Jul 22, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> It should go through a defrost cycle periodically. Perhaps the heating 
> element for that is bad, or a relay or timer... ?
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, at 09:08, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Anyone know anything about commercial freezers? Wife has a true at the 
>> bakery that the compressor is a big old heavy duty thing built like a 
>> 240D. When we had it at the house it seemed to run non stop. Long story 
>> short the thermostat was bad. Replaced that and it seemed to work for a 
>> while but then would just barely get to freezing. Took it to the 
>> bakery. One day wife plugs it in and lo and behold it gets down to -10. 
>> At some point later it’s now struggling to get to freezing or just 
>> above. I told her she needs to have it serviced, perhaps it’s low on 
>> refrigerant. It runs on r404a. I’m wondering if it cools for a while 
>> then maybe ices over due to low charge? From some quick research it 
>> appears it just uses regular manifold gauge connections like r12 
>> perhaps. 
>> 
>> I see I can get r404a to try and top it off. High and low side pressure 
>> specs on on a label in the freezer. I have then found that it looks 
>> like r290 is the supposed new environmental friendly replacement. I 
>> have also read it looks like might be able to use r134 in place of 404? 
>> Anyone know? If that is the case would the oil be the same? I guess I 
>> could “recover” whatever 404 is in there then charge with 134a.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2023-07-22 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
It should go through a defrost cycle periodically. Perhaps the heating element 
for that is bad, or a relay or timer... ?

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, at 09:08, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Anyone know anything about commercial freezers? Wife has a true at the 
> bakery that the compressor is a big old heavy duty thing built like a 
> 240D. When we had it at the house it seemed to run non stop. Long story 
> short the thermostat was bad. Replaced that and it seemed to work for a 
> while but then would just barely get to freezing. Took it to the 
> bakery. One day wife plugs it in and lo and behold it gets down to -10. 
> At some point later it’s now struggling to get to freezing or just 
> above. I told her she needs to have it serviced, perhaps it’s low on 
> refrigerant. It runs on r404a. I’m wondering if it cools for a while 
> then maybe ices over due to low charge? From some quick research it 
> appears it just uses regular manifold gauge connections like r12 
> perhaps. 
>
> I see I can get r404a to try and top it off. High and low side pressure 
> specs on on a label in the freezer. I have then found that it looks 
> like r290 is the supposed new environmental friendly replacement. I 
> have also read it looks like might be able to use r134 in place of 404? 
> Anyone know? If that is the case would the oil be the same? I guess I 
> could “recover” whatever 404 is in there then charge with 134a.
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Commercial freezer

2023-07-22 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Anyone know anything about commercial freezers? Wife has a true at the bakery 
that the compressor is a big old heavy duty thing built like a 240D. When we 
had it at the house it seemed to run non stop. Long story short the thermostat 
was bad. Replaced that and it seemed to work for a while but then would just 
barely get to freezing. Took it to the bakery. One day wife plugs it in and lo 
and behold it gets down to -10. At some point later it’s now struggling to get 
to freezing or just above. I told her she needs to have it serviced, perhaps 
it’s low on refrigerant. It runs on r404a. I’m wondering if it cools for a 
while then maybe ices over due to low charge? From some quick research it 
appears it just uses regular manifold gauge connections like r12 perhaps. 

I see I can get r404a to try and top it off. High and low side pressure specs 
on on a label in the freezer. I have then found that it looks like r290 is the 
supposed new environmental friendly replacement. I have also read it looks like 
might be able to use r134 in place of 404? Anyone know? If that is the case 
would the oil be the same? I guess I could “recover” whatever 404 is in there 
then charge with 134a.



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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This was one built in 99 and it’s pretty simple. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. I haven't worked with any restaurant 
> equipment since the late 1980s but what I remember of it is that it was *not* 
> sophisticated. Reliability was paramount; no restaurant would be happy about 
> losing a freezer full of food. Therefore things were simple and overbuilt. An 
> extra relay or sensor would just be something that could fail and would not 
> be used if it were not necessary.
> 
> Maybe stuff is more "advanced" now.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can 
>> think of as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not 
>> careful the wiring in the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. 
>> Maybe that is what happened. Working on putting the cover back on which 
>> is a bear. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch 
>>> it mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down 
>>> enough then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
 have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
 question about it.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
> wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
> not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
> reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
> evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
> power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
> 
>>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is 
>> drawn in a somewhat non-standard,
>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
>> compressor outlet
>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>> 
>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
>> wrong with the
>> fan, or the wires to them.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. I haven't worked with any restaurant 
equipment since the late 1980s but what I remember of it is that it was *not* 
sophisticated. Reliability was paramount; no restaurant would be happy about 
losing a freezer full of food. Therefore things were simple and overbuilt. An 
extra relay or sensor would just be something that could fail and would not be 
used if it were not necessary.

Maybe stuff is more "advanced" now.



On Sat, Jun 25, 2022, at 7:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can 
> think of as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not 
> careful the wiring in the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. 
> Maybe that is what happened. Working on putting the cover back on which 
> is a bear. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch 
>> it mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down 
>> enough then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
>>> have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
>>> question about it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
 wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
 not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
 reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
 evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
 power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
 
>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
> in a somewhat non-standard,
> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
> compressor outlet
> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
> 
> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
> wrong with the
> fan, or the wires to them.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Let it run for a while and both fans are running. The only thing I can think of 
as to why the one fan was not running is if you are not careful the wiring in 
the area can drop down and get caught in the fan. Maybe that is what happened. 
Working on putting the cover back on which is a bear. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch it 
> mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down enough 
> then fans will kick on. We shall see. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans 
>> have to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no 
>> question about it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
>>> wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would 
>>> not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to 
>>> reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the 
>>> evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and 
>>> power up the fans.  Will see what happens.
>>> 
> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
 in a somewhat non-standard,
 and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
 compressor outlet
 is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
 
 The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something 
 wrong with the
 fan, or the wires to them.
 
 -- Jim
 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have the freezer running now and the fans reinstalled. That temp switch it 
mounted right on the evaporator so I am assuming once it cools down enough then 
fans will kick on. We shall see. 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans have 
> to run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no question 
> about it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are wired 
>> together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would not yet 
>> both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to reinstall 
>> the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the evaporator 
>> needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and power up the 
>> fans.  Will see what happens.
>> 
 On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn 
>>> in a somewhat non-standard,
>>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the 
>>> compressor outlet
>>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>>> 
>>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
>>> with the
>>> fan, or the wires to them.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
As a ladder diagram guy like Jim, I’m in total agreement that both fans have to 
run at the same time or there is a wiring or connection issue, no question 
about it.

-D


> On Jun 25, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are wired 
> together I am not really sure why one would run but the other would not yet 
> both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am going to reinstall 
> the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am assuming the evaporator 
> needs to cool down to a certain point to close that switch and power up the 
> fans.  Will see what happens.
> 
>> On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in 
>> a somewhat non-standard,
>> and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
>> outlet
>> is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).
>> 
>> The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
>> with the
>> fan, or the wires to them.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yea, I do not take any credit for their schematic. Since the fans are 
wired together I am not really sure why one would run but the other 
would not yet both powered up fine with power applied directly.  I am 
going to reinstall the fans and let the unit run for a while.  I am 
assuming the evaporator needs to cool down to a certain point to close 
that switch and power up the fans.  Will see what happens.


On 6/25/2022 4:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in a 
somewhat non-standard,
and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
outlet
is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).

The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
with the
fan, or the wires to them.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Not impressed with your schematic.  The relay (? defrost timer?) is drawn in a 
somewhat non-standard,
and certainly confusing manner.  Also, the skinny terminal on the compressor 
outlet
is supposed to be the 'hot' side, usually black (versus white).

The evap fans have to run together.  If they don't, there's something wrong 
with the
fan, or the wires to them.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
My mistake it has 3 wires a black, white, and brown 

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> On Jun 25, 2022, at 4:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> 
> The new thermostat and evaporator fan arrived and I replaced the thermostat.  
> Compressor kicks on fine.  Before all this is had  one of the 2 evaporator 
> fans not running.  I ordered a replacement but when the unit kicked on, 
> neither one of them were running.  They should run when the 2 door contact 
> switches are closed.  I checked the voltage when my meter and when the door 
> switches are closed its getting around 18 volts.  Nowhere near 115 it should 
> be.  I then went ahead and pulled both fans and both up with power is 
> directly applied.  So, I guess the motors are fine but first I wonder why one 
> of them was not working and why now neither of them are?  Both motors are 
> wired together then wire into the freezer but appears one of the leads runs 
> thru a round 2 pole switch or sensor of some sort mounted up above the right 
> fan near the evaporator. I wonder if it is some sort of temperature switch.  
> In looking at the attached wiring diagram, I am thinking it could be the 
> defrost termination switch.  I wonder if the thing has to cool down a certain 
> amount before the switch closes and powers on the fans?  Or perhaps this 
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[MBZ] commercial freezer

2022-06-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes


The new thermostat and evaporator fan arrived and I replaced the 
thermostat.  Compressor kicks on fine.  Before all this is had  one of 
the 2 evaporator fans not running.  I ordered a replacement but when the 
unit kicked on, neither one of them were running.  They should run when 
the 2 door contact switches are closed.  I checked the voltage when my 
meter and when the door switches are closed its getting around 18 
volts.  Nowhere near 115 it should be.  I then went ahead and pulled 
both fans and both up with power is directly applied.  So, I guess the 
motors are fine but first I wonder why one of them was not working and 
why now neither of them are?  Both motors are wired together then wire 
into the freezer but appears one of the leads runs thru a round 2 pole 
switch or sensor of some sort mounted up above the right fan near the 
evaporator. I wonder if it is some sort of temperature switch.  In 
looking at the attached wiring diagram, I am thinking it could be the 
defrost termination switch.  I wonder if the thing has to cool down a 
certain amount before the switch closes and powers on the fans?  Or 
perhaps this switch is bad.  I guess I need to see if i can bypass it 
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I ended up finding the motor and thermostat on Amazon for around $180 for both 
versus $700 for both on the various restaurant equipment parts places. Seems 
like quite a racket. 

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> On Jun 19, 2022, at 8:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Somewhere near you is an electric motor rebuild shop that can put the motor
> in operating condition, whatever it is.. for a lot less than price of a new
> one.
> Find them, you'll be glad you did.
> You said the fridge was running constantly what you didn't know it was
> only running with one fan.. which means 1/2 the air circulation inside the
> box and cooling coils.. Sort of like pulling 4 spark plug wires and driving
> with a trailer loaded I'd bet your KW use goes down with it working as
> it should.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 2:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Alright after spending a couple of hours looking things over and taking
>> things apart I figured out it has a bad thermostat switch. I took apart the
>> evaporator case in the top, jumper the lines to the knob and it kicks on.
>> Time to order another one. It also has one of the 2 evaporator fans not
>> working. Parts for this thing are expensive and that fan motor is around
>> $400 at quick glance. No telling what that simple little temp knob will be.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked at the electrical drawing you had attached. Does the door
>> light work?
>>> If not, I would check the power cord, and any connections between the
>> outlet and the internal wiring of the appliance. If the last thing you did
>> was unplug it, and now it doesn't work, I would suspect a broken wire at
>> the plug. And no, I'm not saying you yanked it out of the wall by the cord.
>> I'm saying that in 23 years of use, someone did several times.  It failed
>> on you. Those old freezers are like the 240D of freezers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 19, 2022 12:10 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer
>>> 
>>> Yep, been plugged in for days
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g.
>> if there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few
>> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
>>>>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
>>>>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
>>>>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
>>>>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time
>> and
>>>>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
>>>>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not
>> the
>>>>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have
>> no
>>>>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
>>>>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still
>> come
>>>>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
>>>>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated
>> around
>>>>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
>>>>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that
>> goes
>>>>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
>>>>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and
>> assumed
>>>>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the
>> power

Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Well yea I’m sure one of the fans not running was not good, but I bet that 
thermostat was going bad and not shutting off when it should and now it doesn’t 
turn on at all. I bet it used a lot less power once I fix it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 8:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Somewhere near you is an electric motor rebuild shop that can put the motor
> in operating condition, whatever it is.. for a lot less than price of a new
> one.
> Find them, you'll be glad you did.
> You said the fridge was running constantly what you didn't know it was
> only running with one fan.. which means 1/2 the air circulation inside the
> box and cooling coils.. Sort of like pulling 4 spark plug wires and driving
> with a trailer loaded I'd bet your KW use goes down with it working as
> it should.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 2:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Alright after spending a couple of hours looking things over and taking
>> things apart I figured out it has a bad thermostat switch. I took apart the
>> evaporator case in the top, jumper the lines to the knob and it kicks on.
>> Time to order another one. It also has one of the 2 evaporator fans not
>> working. Parts for this thing are expensive and that fan motor is around
>> $400 at quick glance. No telling what that simple little temp knob will be.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked at the electrical drawing you had attached. Does the door
>> light work?
>>> If not, I would check the power cord, and any connections between the
>> outlet and the internal wiring of the appliance. If the last thing you did
>> was unplug it, and now it doesn't work, I would suspect a broken wire at
>> the plug. And no, I'm not saying you yanked it out of the wall by the cord.
>> I'm saying that in 23 years of use, someone did several times.  It failed
>> on you. Those old freezers are like the 240D of freezers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 19, 2022 12:10 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer
>>> 
>>> Yep, been plugged in for days
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g.
>> if there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few
>> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
>>>>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
>>>>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
>>>>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
>>>>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time
>> and
>>>>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
>>>>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not
>> the
>>>>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have
>> no
>>>>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
>>>>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still
>> come
>>>>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
>>>>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated
>> around
>>>>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
>>>>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that
>> goes
>>>>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
>>>>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and
>> assumed
>>>>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the
>> power

Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Somewhere near you is an electric motor rebuild shop that can put the motor
in operating condition, whatever it is.. for a lot less than price of a new
one.
Find them, you'll be glad you did.
You said the fridge was running constantly what you didn't know it was
only running with one fan.. which means 1/2 the air circulation inside the
box and cooling coils.. Sort of like pulling 4 spark plug wires and driving
with a trailer loaded I'd bet your KW use goes down with it working as
it should.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 2:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alright after spending a couple of hours looking things over and taking
> things apart I figured out it has a bad thermostat switch. I took apart the
> evaporator case in the top, jumper the lines to the knob and it kicks on.
> Time to order another one. It also has one of the 2 evaporator fans not
> working. Parts for this thing are expensive and that fan motor is around
> $400 at quick glance. No telling what that simple little temp knob will be.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 19, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I looked at the electrical drawing you had attached. Does the door
> light work?
> > If not, I would check the power cord, and any connections between the
> outlet and the internal wiring of the appliance. If the last thing you did
> was unplug it, and now it doesn't work, I would suspect a broken wire at
> the plug. And no, I'm not saying you yanked it out of the wall by the cord.
> I'm saying that in 23 years of use, someone did several times.  It failed
> on you. Those old freezers are like the 240D of freezers.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: June 19, 2022 12:10 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer
> >
> > Yep, been plugged in for days
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g.
> if there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few
> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
> >>
> >> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
> >>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
> >>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
> >>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
> >>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
> >>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time
> and
> >>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
> >>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not
> the
> >>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have
> no
> >>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
> >>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still
> come
> >>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
> >>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated
> around
> >>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
> >>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that
> goes
> >>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
> >>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and
> assumed
> >>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the
> power
> >>> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and
> >>> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or
> >>> anything like that.  Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Welcome to the world of restaurant equipment. Nothing is cheap.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Alright after spending a couple of hours looking things over and taking 
> things apart I figured out it has a bad thermostat switch. I took apart the 
> evaporator case in the top, jumper the lines to the knob and it kicks on. 
> Time to order another one. It also has one of the 2 evaporator fans not 
> working. Parts for this thing are expensive and that fan motor is around $400 
> at quick glance. No telling what that simple little temp knob will be. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 19, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I looked at the electrical drawing you had attached. Does the door light 
> > work?
> > If not, I would check the power cord, and any connections between the 
> > outlet and the internal wiring of the appliance. If the last thing you did 
> > was unplug it, and now it doesn't work, I would suspect a broken wire at 
> > the plug. And no, I'm not saying you yanked it out of the wall by the cord. 
> > I'm saying that in 23 years of use, someone did several times.  It failed 
> > on you. Those old freezers are like the 240D of freezers.
> > 
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: June 19, 2022 12:10 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer
> > 
> > Yep, been plugged in for days
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g. if 
> >> there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few 
> >> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
> >> 
> >> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
> >> 
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
> >>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
> >>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
> >>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
> >>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and
> >>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
> >>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the
> >>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no
> >>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
> >>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come
> >>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
> >>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around
> >>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
> >>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes
> >>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
> >>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed
> >>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power
> >>> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and
> >>> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or
> >>> anything like that.  Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I looked at the electrical drawing you had attached. Does the door light work?
If not, I would check the power cord, and any connections between the outlet 
and the internal wiring of the appliance. If the last thing you did was unplug 
it, and now it doesn't work, I would suspect a broken wire at the plug. And no, 
I'm not saying you yanked it out of the wall by the cord. I'm saying that in 23 
years of use, someone did several times.  It failed on you. Those old freezers 
are like the 240D of freezers.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 19, 2022 12:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

Yep, been plugged in for days

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> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g. if 
> there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few 
> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
>
> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and
>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the
>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no
>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come
>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around
>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes
>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed
>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power
>> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and
>> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or
>> anything like that.  Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep, been plugged in for days 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:21 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g. if 
> there is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few 
> seconds, then off, repeat, as it is being restored.
> 
> Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she 
>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a 
>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of 
>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be 
>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and 
>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and 
>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the 
>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no 
>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if 
>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come 
>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.  
>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around 
>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem 
>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes 
>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand 
>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed 
>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power 
>> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and 
>> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or 
>> anything like that.  Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Some of these have a delay so that they don't start immediately. E.g. if there 
is a power failure, often the power will come back on for a few seconds, then 
off, repeat, as it is being restored.

Have you tried plugging it in and waiting at least 10 min or so?

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she 
> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a 
> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of 
> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be 
> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and 
> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and 
> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the 
> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no 
> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if 
> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come 
> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.  
> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around 
> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem 
> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes 
> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand 
> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed 
> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power 
> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and 
> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or 
> anything like that.  Thoughts?
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-18 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s possible but there appears to be no power at all. I need to get my meter 
out and do some probing. Not even the interior light comes on.

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> On Jun 18, 2022, at 10:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> From the diagram, bottom 1/3, there is a temperature control switch, right
> hand side of the diagram. I would suspect it is now failing to close the
> circuit to the compressor.
> In fact, I suspect it has been sub-par for some time which is why it was
> "running continuously".
> 
> Many years ago, a refrigeration mechanic told me to never keep a freezer
> empty because it overworks the components trying to keep the empty freezer
> cold and at the set temperature.
> His advice was to fill any empty space with water bottles and let them
> freeze. The interior of the freezer will then stay cold soaked at the set
> temp and reduce the total run time required to maintain set temp.
> Also, should you have a power loss, the mass of frozen ice in the bottles
> will help prolong the cold soak of the box. [Presuming you keep the door
> closed]
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 6:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
>> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
>> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
>> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
>> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and
>> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
>> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the
>> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no
>> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
>> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come
>> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
>> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around
>> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
>> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes
>> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
>> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed
>> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power
>> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and
>> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or
>> anything like that.  Thoughts?___
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Re: [MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
>From the diagram, bottom 1/3, there is a temperature control switch, right
hand side of the diagram. I would suspect it is now failing to close the
circuit to the compressor.
In fact, I suspect it has been sub-par for some time which is why it was
"running continuously".

Many years ago, a refrigeration mechanic told me to never keep a freezer
empty because it overworks the components trying to keep the empty freezer
cold and at the set temperature.
His advice was to fill any empty space with water bottles and let them
freeze. The interior of the freezer will then stay cold soaked at the set
temp and reduce the total run time required to maintain set temp.
Also, should you have a power loss, the mass of frozen ice in the bottles
will help prolong the cold soak of the box. [Presuming you keep the door
closed]


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 6:10 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she
> uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a
> ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of
> town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be
> running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and
> rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and
> if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the
> issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no
> power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if
> the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come
> on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.
> It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around
> and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem
> and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes
> to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand
> out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed
> it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power
> box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and
> bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or
> anything like that.  Thoughts?___
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[MBZ] Commercial freezer

2022-06-18 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The wife has a large 2 door commercial freezer in the garage that she 
uses for her business.  The thing has a massive compressor and uses a 
ton of electricity.  Anyway, a few weeks ago we were going to be out of 
town for a week and it was empty, so I unplugged it so it would not be 
running.  Before that, the thing seems like it runs most of the time and 
rarely if ever shuts off.  I have tried messing with the thermostat and 
if not careful, will get it to where it never kicks on.  Anyway, not the 
issue at hand.  When I plugged it back in the thing now seems to have no 
power at all.  I tested the outlet and its fine.  I would think even if 
the compressor or start capacitor was dead the fans etc would still come 
on.  This is a True freezer from 1999 and is as mechanical as it gets.  
It has the old mechanical dial defrost timer which I have rotated around 
and it does not kick on.  I watched a few videos on a similar problem 
and it was some burned wires in the electrical box/plug outlet that goes 
to the compressor.  I have attached the wiring diagram.  Anything stand 
out that I should check?  I saw a fuse listed on the diagram and assumed 
it was a circuit breaker looking switch mounted to the side of the power 
box in the front of the freezer.  I disconnected the wires from it and 
bypassed and it still did not work.  I have not see a different fuse or 
anything like that.  Thoughts?___
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