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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want to 
save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train accidents 
that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list worldwide it was 
a really small number...
Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a crimp in 
their quality of life.
-Curt

 

  From: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
 To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

      From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
  
The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-19 Thread clay via Mercedes

We have too much crude on hand and not enough ability to process it for 
domestic use.  At current prices (retail) the industry loses money if that 
floods the market.  The consumer is at the mercy of the industry.   petro folks 
can not stop production or reduce it more than it is at the moment.  Product 
has to go someplace.

clay


On Dec 18, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
> one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>> 
>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export 
>> crude oil.
>> 
>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>> 
>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>> 
>> So the end of the world is near
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski 
>> did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-19 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes

Right, and cheaper oil means more people will be able to effectively heat their 
homes.
A study ( look at the author, cough, cough) back in 1997 showed that better 
heat at home and in the workplace leads to lower rates of cardiovascular 
related deaths:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9307350/

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want to 
> save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train accidents 
> that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list worldwide it 
> was a really small number...
> Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a crimp in 
> their quality of life.
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
> my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
> I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
> the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
> Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curt Raymond
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>   
> The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
> at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
> will be moved somehow.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C.
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
> oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
> after all.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I thought the optimal  sleeping temperature was 63 degrees.
On Dec 19, 2015 6:46 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Right, and cheaper oil means more people will be able to effectively heat
> their homes.
> A study ( look at the author, cough, cough) back in 1997 showed that
> better heat at home and in the workplace leads to lower rates of
> cardiovascular related deaths:
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9307350/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The biggest killer in North America is heart disease. If you really want
> to save lives go there. I couldn't find any real statistics for train
> accidents that were limited to just the US but even looking at the list
> worldwide it was a really small number...
> > Polluting somebody's water supply might not kill them but it puts a
> crimp in their quality of life.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> > To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List' <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
> but
> > my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> > killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The
> stuff
> > I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and
> that
> > the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more
> lives.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
> > Raymond via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> > the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> > sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous.
> Look
> > at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The
> oil
> > will be moved somehow.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb C.
> > Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> > he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> > company.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> an
> > oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> project
> > after all.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-19 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Gotta throw the b.s. flag on that, relative is an engineer "in the 
business" and explained how the oil is sent in measured slugs, water 
between slugs, and the size of each slug is known and transmitted to 
the receiving end.  When somebody's slug is short, they immediately 
know they have a problem, usually even before receiving the slug 
they would see a pressure drop.  The valve timing at the receiving 
end has to be very precise to separate the slugs.  "This is Joey's 
oil, goes into that tank.  Next is Bob's oil, goes into this tank" 
24 / 7 operation, somebody (usually many somebody's) are there ALL 
the time, making sure the oil goes to the right place.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 11:53:39 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once

 >they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.






+1

that is true.  In my limited experience with a propane pipeline, the 
operators immediately saw the drop in pressure, but instead of 
calling out crews to shut off the valves, they decided at 2 am it was 
easier to blame the pressure drop on instrumentation than to call out 
2 guys to shut off 2 valves.  The result was 3-4 dead.  Neighbors had 
to  find the valves, cut the chains and shut off the valves


The resultant explosion was heard 80 to 100 miles away.  Any 
surviving wildlife cleared out for a mile or two around, and it was 
20 years before much but sparrows came around again.


Propane pipelines are ticking timebombs, but still MUCH safer than 
warrens railroads.


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Personal property rights are a hallmark of our country. To make it "our" oil 
would mean nationalization of the oil industry. Countries that do that are 
usually called Communist.

-Curt

  From: Max Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve. Oil is needed 
to power the war machine.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights to the 
property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs to the oil 
company. They should be able to do whatever they want with it. You don't want 
anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell parts to right?
-Curt

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

 Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.

 She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
oil.

 The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.

 I agree with Nansky Peloski

 So the end of the world is near

 Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Max sez:

>‎Oil is needed to power the war >machine.

Good luck with that. I suspect most of the electronics, steel, etc. needed ‎in 
a World War situation are imported from countries who would be our enemies. Not 
good. 

(insert mao's standard banned sig)

As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project after 
all. 

Cui Bono. 
Always look at who benefits. 

Rick 
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[MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.

She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to 
export crude oil.


The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.

I agree with Nansky Peloski

So the end of the world is near


Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
> 
> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
> oil.
> 
> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
> 
> I agree with Nansky Peloski
> 
> So the end of the world is near
> 
> 
> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



> On December 18, 2015 at 1:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is
> needed to power the war machine.

What I like is when they keep buying at $100 a bbl, and then some idiot
congresscritter wants to sell some of it for $40 a bbl to fund some foolish
scheme of his. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Maybe she's been lurking and has a secret crush on you.
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:04 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.

She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to 
export crude oil.

The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.

I agree with Nansky Peloski

So the end of the world is near

Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights to the 
property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs to the oil 
company. They should be able to do whatever they want with it. You don't want 
anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell parts to right?
-Curt

 

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that will 
one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
> 
> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to export crude 
> oil.
> 
> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
> 
> I agree with Nansky Peloski
> 
> So the end of the world is near
> 
> 
> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is needed 
to power the war machine.
-- 
Max Dillon
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On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights
>to the property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs
>to the oil company. They should be able to do whatever they want with
>it. You don't want anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell
>parts to right?
>-Curt
>
> 
>
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
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> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>   
>I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that
>will one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>> 
>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to
>export crude oil.
>> 
>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>> 
>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>> 
>> So the end of the world is near
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky
>Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Or when they want to use the strategic oil reserve to lower gas prices.
-Curt

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> On December 18, 2015 at 1:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is
> needed to power the war machine.

What I like is when they keep buying at $100 a bbl, and then some idiot
congresscritter wants to sell some of it for $40 a bbl to fund some foolish
scheme of his. 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing 
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline 
company.


--R

On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project after 
all.



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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

It is needed to feed and power everything

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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well, there's a good reason why the federal government keeps a strategic 
> petroleum reserve but doesn't have a strategic Mercedes reserve.  Oil is 
> needed to power the war machine.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On December 18, 2015 12:47:41 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> The thing is its not "ours" it belongs to whoever owns the oil rights
>> to the property until its pulled up out of the ground, then it belongs
>> to the oil company. They should be able to do whatever they want with
>> it. You don't want anybody telling you who you can and cannot sell
>> parts to right?
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
>> 
>> I don't think we should be exporting oil, it is a limited resource that
>> will one day run out and we need to keep it for ourselves.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nansky Peloski, that noted marxist, just made a sensible statement.
>>> 
>>> She said it makes more sense to export finished products than to
>> export crude oil.
>>> 
>>> The sky must be falling when that bimbo says something intelligent.
>>> 
>>> I agree with Nansky Peloski
>>> 
>>> So the end of the world is near
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew, Please note:  I did not change my view or belief.  Nansky
>> Peloski did.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Keystone pipeline - moving Canadian oil to our gulf coast refineries so the
Canadians can sell the finished product to China  - - - sounds like a plan
to me.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Well, hasn't turning us back into a colony been the whole objective  
since Nixon?  Trade raw materials for finished goods?


Stupid idea, we should have been selling cars and home goods TO China,  
not FROM China


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing he 
> wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
>> company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project 
>> after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Yup - don't you love the free market?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Isn't the option they are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the
>> Canadian west coast?
>>
>>
> and is shipped to china
>

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Isn't Cushing where all the pipelines converge?  Huge storage tank 
farms?  Where the "Henry Hub" is for gas?


--R

On 12/18/15 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - right in the center of
the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt







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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Yup - - - just waiting for the pipes to crack . . .
The tank farm is one of our landmarks for navigation, and is marked on the
aeronautical charts.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Isn't Cushing where all the pipelines converge?  Huge storage tank farms?
> Where the "Henry Hub" is for gas?
>
>

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes




Okie Don sez:  The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - 
right in the center of

the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?



and is shipped to china

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg

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Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

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The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the pipeline 
made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent domain. 
They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. Without 
Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama followed the 
will of the people of Nebraska.
Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said they'd 
probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been threatened at 
the start...
-Curt

 

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 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing he 
> wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an oil 
>> company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project 
>> after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of the 
big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive 
ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
-Curt

 

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Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
   
The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Yup, they dealt with the whole thing as badly as could be imagined and 
basically got smacked around for it. I suspect another company could run 
essentially the same pipeline, be honest, offer to work with landowners, and 
get away with it.
-Curt

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I tool real offense at the idea that some used about how it was going to create 
jobs.  Maybe temporary construction jobs, but once the pipeline was completed, 
the number of jobs tied to its operation would be relatively small.  When the 
proponents were pressed about this, they finally agreed that in the long term 
it might create 100 jobs.

Yeah.

Dan

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the 
> pipeline made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent 
> domain. They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. 
> Without Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama 
> followed the will of the people of Nebraska.
> Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said 
> they'd probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been 
> threatened at the start...
> -Curt
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be moved somehow.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last thing
he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
company.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into an
oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone project
after all.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I tool real offense at the idea that some used about how it was going to create 
jobs.  Maybe temporary construction jobs, but once the pipeline was completed, 
the number of jobs tied to its operation would be relatively small.  When the 
proponents were pressed about this, they finally agreed that in the long term 
it might create 100 jobs.

Yeah.

Dan

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The people of Nebraska REALLY didn't want it. The company building the 
> pipeline made a huge mistake threatening the people of Nebraska with eminent 
> domain. They basically got told they could take their domain and shove it. 
> Without Nebraska onboard Keystone XL was pretty much in trouble. Obama 
> followed the will of the people of Nebraska.
> Whats funny is that most of those who really fought it in Nebraska said 
> they'd probably have worked with the pipeline folks if they hadn't been 
> threatened at the start...
> -Curt
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

The pipeline would have terminated at Cushing, OK - right in the center of
the current record breaking earthquake activity - how safe is that for a
pipeline?  There is no "safe" way to move large quantities of anything, so
you make your choice and live with the consequences. Isn't the option they
are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the Canadian west coast?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was
> sensitive ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


OK Don wrote:

 Yup - don't you love the free market?


Free Market?  Do we know free market?  I don't think we know what free
market is about.  We are taught that this is free market but some say
this is not free market really, i.e. too many convoluted regulations
giving preferences to some but not all.  That is what I hear.
mao


you hear right.

not many free markets in this country since about 1910.  Maybe before

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

OK Don wrote:
> Yup - don't you love the free market?

Free Market?  Do we know free market?  I don't think we know what free
market is about.  We are taught that this is free market but some say
this is not free market really, i.e. too many convoluted regulations
giving preferences to some but not all.  That is what I hear.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once
they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Last time I studied this (admittedly in the 70s), pipelines were much safer
> than rail or road.  This was in SoCal so I'm pretty sure geological
> instability was a consideration.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:02 PM
> > To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
> but my
> > impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
> killed
> > many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff I
> read
> > about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that the
> leaks
> > are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Curt Raymond
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
> the
> > big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive
> > ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> >  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous.
> Look
> at
> > the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
> will be
> > moved somehow.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Kaleb C.
> > Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> >
> > Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last
> > > thing
> > he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> > company.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> > >> an
> > oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> > project after all.
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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


Yup - don't you love the free market?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:




 Isn't the option they are taking now to pipe or ship the oil to the

 Canadian west coast?



 > and is shipped to china


It is NOT free market when the pols stick their fingers in it!

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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info), but
my impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff
I read about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that
the leaks are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.

Greg


But warren wants it to go on his RR, so no pipelines as long as the 
pols live on donations.


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Gotta throw the b.s. flag on that, relative is an engineer "in the business" 
and explained how the oil is sent in measured slugs, water between slugs, and 
the size of each slug is known and transmitted to the receiving end.  When 
somebody's slug is short, they immediately know they have a problem, usually 
even before receiving the slug they would see a pressure drop.  The valve 
timing at the receiving end has to be very precise to separate the slugs.  
"This is Joey's oil, goes into that tank.  Next is Bob's oil, goes into this 
tank"  24 / 7 operation, somebody (usually many somebody's) are there ALL the 
time, making sure the oil goes to the right place.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On December 18, 2015 11:53:39 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>There have been quite a few pipeline ruptures lately.  Problem is, once
>they break no one is awake or on call to shut off the flow.
>


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Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!

2015-12-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Last time I studied this (admittedly in the 70s), pipelines were much safer
than rail or road.  This was in SoCal so I'm pretty sure geological
instability was a consideration.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:02 PM
> To: 'Curt Raymond' <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> I don't have comparative statistics (not so easy to find unbiased info),
but my
> impression is that rail shipments go through populated areas and have
killed
> many people. One incident I read about in Quebec killed 47. The stuff I
read
> about pipelines is that they pollute when there are leaks, and that the
leaks
> are fewer, but spill more oil. My bias goes to saving more lives.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curt Raymond
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Depends on how you define dangerous. Pipelines leak and spill oil, one of
the
> big concerns the Keystone folks tried to ignore in Nebraska was sensitive
> ecosystems. They claimed their poop don't stink...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Greg Fiorentino <greg.fiorent...@comcast.net>
>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:09 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> The important thing is that rail transport of petroleum is dangerous. Look
at
> the number of disasters this has caused. Pipeline is much safer. The oil
will be
> moved somehow.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb C.
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The sky is falling!
> 
> Which by some strange coincidence Obama does not want it. H
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > His company owns the railroads that are transporting the oil, last
> > thing
> he wants is more pipelines unless he buys/owns a (Keystone) pipeline
> company.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >> On 12/18/15 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> >> As to the export of crude, my thought is Warren Buffet is buying into
> >> an
> oil company and/or a pipeline company and maybe we need the Keystone
> project after all.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Guys - let's be civil, please. No problem with disagreeing, but no need for 
name calling.

Dan/Mom

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.
 
 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
 MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
 Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I have thought of running for something too, but then realized I would 
have to deal with people like me.


--R



On 7/1/15 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic 
District Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county 
commission. 'Had too many nuts calling 'bout their pet projects 
and/or complaints; 'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.


Wilton 



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Gerry, 
 I think you have it backwards.  Bill was/is actually Hillary's sock 
puppet.  How many did she have killed over White Water, last count was around 
50.  And Foster killing himself and Hillary ending up with his personal files.  
Pleease!!!   Hillary is a dangerous, maniacal, power hungry person.  
Remember, Bill was a mess as governor, Hillary slapped him around, and he was 
back as governordoesn't speak well for the intellect of the Ark. folks, but 
that's another story for another day. 
 Anyway, Bernie is just a typical Democrat distraction to make voters think 
that there is actually independent thought and competition in the Democratic 
Party.  Remember, Democrats share the Borg brain so they can't really act 
independent...I remember when there were actual, real moderate and conservative 
Democrats.  But then, I also remember when there were actual, real moderate and 
conservative Republicans...now just RINOS. 
  You may disagree and that's good.  Keeps us from acting like the Borg 
as well. 
  
Hillary is just Bills sock puppet. A Hillary presidency will be another 
classic Bill Clinton presidency. (Bill misses his Monicas.) 
Gerry 
 
  
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Really? Who?
They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard for 
their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real actual 
work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one of them is 
up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
                R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
 constitutional conservatives.

 Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
 history that the in crowd will never learn.

  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

 Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
 people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

 The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

 RB

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart enough to 
run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets face it, being 
president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the service part of 
government service. We pick some poor bastard that would be good at the job and 
force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you get an 
absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for the last 
twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   
There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
        R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of 
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat 
the history that the in crowd will never learn.




THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The 
only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Really? Who?
 They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
 for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
 actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
 of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
 -Curt
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

 Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
 the aisle.  The system is broke..

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
  constitutional conservatives.
 
  Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
  history that the in crowd will never learn.
 
 
   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.
 
  Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
  people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.
 
  The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?
 
  RB
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Really? Who?
They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
-Curt
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
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Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat the
history that the in crowd will never learn.


  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Name three things that each of these unknowns have done to save 
money, assure our rights under the Constitution,  Enforce the 
sovereignty, or curtail the continuing intrusion of the out of 
control goobermnt into the lives if citizens WHO PAY THE BILLS!





MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Really? Who?
 They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
 for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
 actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not one
 of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any state...
 -Curt

 


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic District 
Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county commission. 
'Had too many nuts calling 'bout their pet projects and/or complaints; 
'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling


Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart enough 
to run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets face 
it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the 
service part of government service. We pick some poor bastard that would 
be good at the job and force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you 
get an absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for 
the last twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?

-Curt
 From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

There is a difference: D=marxist totalitarian
R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
the history that the in crowd will never learn.





THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


I'm not planning on voting for Hillary, Roger. I'm waiting to see how the 
primaries turn out. Since the Supremes have let nearly anyone or any 
corporation worldwide contribute to U.S. political campaigns, it's hard to even 
guess what the effect will be. 
Since Bush has built the largest war chest, he's probably going to be the 
Republican candidate, but that's no certainty under the present circumstances. 
I'm not planning on voting for Trump or Christie either. That was TIC BS. [:o)
Gerry

rogerhga---wrote:
 Gerry, 
  I think you have it backwards.  Bill was/is actually Hillary's sock 
 puppet.  How many did she have killed over White Water, last count was around 
 50.  And Foster killing himself and Hillary ending up with his personal 
 files.  Pleease!!!   Hillary is a dangerous, maniacal, power hungry 
 person.  Remember, Bill was a mess as governor, Hillary slapped him around, 
 and he was back as governordoesn't speak well for the intellect of the 
 Ark. folks, but that's another story for another day. 
  Anyway, Bernie is just a typical Democrat distraction to make voters 
 think that there is actually independent thought and competition in the 
 Democratic Party.  Remember, Democrats share the Borg brain so they can't 
 really act independent...I remember when there were actual, real moderate and 
 conservative Democrats.  But then, I also remember when there were actual, 
 real moderate and conservative Republicans...now just RINOS. 
   You may disagree and that's good.  Keeps us from acting like the Borg 
 as well. 
   
 Hillary is just Bills sock puppet. A Hillary presidency will be another 
 classic Bill Clinton presidency. (Bill misses his Monicas.) 
 Gerry 
  

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Won't argue much with that, though Tim Scott seems half smart (but we 
weren't talking about smart -- way to deflect the discussion).  A friend 
of mine, who is a very reasonable person, knows him pretty well (and his 
daughter works for Tim), and has for a long time, and thinks quite 
highly of him though he has done some things I find a bit questionable.  
Another friend of mine, a flaming liberal from Lawn Guyland, accuses 
Scott of being a disgrace to his race because he has the temerity to 
be a R and espouse such principles. She believes he should uniformly 
vote for free sh*t and if he doesn't he is a disgrace to his race.


Miss Lindsey defies words.

--R



On 7/1/15 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

--R



On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Really? Who?

They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
one
of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
state...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
of
the aisle.  The system is broke..

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian

 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
constitutional conservatives.

Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
the
history that the in crowd will never learn.


   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.


Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

 --R



 On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA and
 Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Really? Who?
 They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
 for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any real
 actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
 one
 of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
 state...
 -Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
   Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

 Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
 of
 the aisle.  The system is broke..

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian
 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
 constitutional conservatives.

 Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
 the
 history that the in crowd will never learn.


   THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

 Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The only
 people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

 The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

 RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

RB wrote:
 The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

Ain't no empire to fall - that is the beauty of the ... whatever we
might want to call this.
An empire fail needs some alternate with muster and there ain't no muster.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Curt wrote:
 ...Lets face it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on 
 the service part of government service...


The beauty of the failure is that service is no longer something we
want.  Understand sipseystreet - the reality of corruption in this
system is that we don't want any type of service.  Not even
education.

Besides, look at what you said.  One person here or there in the gov't
service sectors ain't a hill'o beans toward any solution.  The
service people have rights too!  You can't discriminate, not even
for the sake of nation saving.  Nobody, realize, nobody wants this to
suceed, nobody.  Nobody will give anything - we merely want to take -
service.  All for me, none for you - i.e. income disparity,
education, services , military escapades, global climate change.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Andrew wrote:
 Don't be such a cynic.

Cynic? - in Illinois? - really?
Is there any ray of hope against cynicism to be known in IL?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Gerry wrote:
 ...Since Bush has built the largest war chest...

War chest? i.e. $$?  Where is $$ spent?  Yeah, kill media and we might
have some meaningful chatter.  Is there anything bigger than media
that gets war chest proceeds?  We haven't even got gumption to
chastise media by boycott.  We love bling.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I love the way you paraphrase...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Won't argue much with that, though Tim Scott seems half smart (but we
 weren't talking about smart -- way to deflect the discussion).  A friend of
 mine, who is a very reasonable person, knows him pretty well (and his
 daughter works for Tim), and has for a long time, and thinks quite highly
 of him though he has done some things I find a bit questionable.  Another
 friend of mine, a flaming liberal from Lawn Guyland, accuses Scott of being
 a disgrace to his race because he has the temerity to be a R and espouse
 such principles. She believes he should uniformly vote for free sh*t and if
 he doesn't he is a disgrace to his race.

 Miss Lindsey defies words.

 --R



 On 7/1/15 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 He's a lot smarter than your two a**hole senators.

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  HAHAHAHA Ed Malarkey from MA -- yer killin me A!

 --R



 On 7/1/15 4:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

  MD Senators Cardin and Mikulski are awesome.  So are Sen. Markey in MA
 and
 Whitehouse in RI.  The list goes on.  Don't be such a cynic.

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   Really? Who?

 They're all idiots Andrew, don't be blinded by ideology. They work hard
 for their little pet projects and to keep from ever having to do any
 real
 actual work, then retire to write a book or go on a speaking tour. Not
 one
 of them is up to the standard of digging ditches. Either party, any
 state...
 -Curt
 From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

 Total BS. I know of many dedicated and honest US senators on both sides
 of
 the aisle.  The system is broke..

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   There is a difference:  D=marxist totalitarian

  R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
 constitutional conservatives.

 Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
 the
 history that the in crowd will never learn.


THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

  Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
 only
 people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

 The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

 RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

As the saying goes, it's a messy job but someone has to do it...

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 5:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Thanks, but I don't want it - 'couldn't put up with all the BS.

 'Reminds me:  'Bout 25 years ago, I was chairman of local Historic
 District Commission; 'thought I might run for city council or county
 commission. 'Had too many nuts calling 'bout their pet projects and/or
 complaints; 'quickly decided I didn't need to put up with that BS.

 Wilton

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling


  Problem is our whole system of election is backwards, anybody smart
 enough to run the country is smart enough not to try to get elected. Lets
 face it, being president is a crap job. Instead we need to focus on the
 service part of government service. We pick some poor bastard that would
 be good at the job and force him or her into it. I nominate Wilton.
 Alternately we randomly pick some idiot every year. Sure some years you
 get an absolute moron but based on the turdburgers we've been getting for
 the last twenty or thirty (or fifty) years how could it be any worse?
 -Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

 There is a difference: D=marxist totalitarian
 R= socialist totalitarian, with a minority of
 constitutional conservatives.

 Unless we elect constitutional conservatives, we are doomed to repeat
 the history that the in crowd will never learn.




  THAT is a sad commentary, indeed.

 Maybe it is because it is a thankless job, being a politician? The
 only people interested anymore are odd balls and crooks.

 The fall of the empire is nearer than we would like to believe?

 RB



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Is there a difference?
Demican or Republicrat - ain't a dime's difference.
My Dr. told me so.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Its like choosing between a turd burger and a crap sandwich.
-Curt
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Cc: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com 
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Is there a difference?
Demican or Republicrat - ain't a dime's difference.
My Dr. told me so.
mao



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[MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was 
hazy.  By 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one 
suburban!!


The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh 
The Humanity!



no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total 
accumulation of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc 
create massive pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's 
regenerative powers  (trees) have mitigated the pollution.


For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get 
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun 
is still obscured.


Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 
1950 style!


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Whatever you want, as long as it helps disabuse the notion that the presidency
is a title to be passed down within royal families. 
(hint: don't vote Hillary Clinton, Anybody Kennedy, or John Bush)

 On June 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
 

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


As a loyal American who loves our government and all of its hard working 
bureaucrats, I wish they would clear up the obvious conflict between global 
warming and global cooling.

During the 1970s the media promoted global cooling alarmism with dire threats 
of a new ice age. Extreme weather events were hyped as signs of the coming 
apocalypse and man-made pollution was blamed as the cause. Environmental 
extremists called for everything from outlawing the internal combustion engine 
to communist style population controls...

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

The only solution I can think of is to combine the two; (they would cancel out 
each other);  and put the world back into its present boring state.


Gerry
...

Rich Thomas wrote:
 You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced emissions. The 
 solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the 
 whole Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe 
 misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow 
 rednecks, and turned into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you 
 use newer solar-powered soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using 
 solar power that is millions of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a 
 giant solar-powered chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid 
 you can pump into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.
 
 You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your 
 Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
 
 --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow 
 green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
 
 
 
 On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
  OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
 
  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
  CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
 
  --R
 
 
 
 
  On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 
  Oh my lord
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
  dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
  (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
 
  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was hazy.
  By
  5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
 
  The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh The
  Humanity!
 
 
  no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
 
 
  ...
 
 
  ...
 
 
  ...
 
  Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
 
  But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
  accumulation
  of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
  pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
  (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
 
  For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
  sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
  still obscured.
 
  Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor. 1950
  style!
 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the highest 
office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed politicians 
for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Bernie is the unapologetic socialist that Hillary! wants to be, and 
doesn't have all the baggage of lies and criminal activity, so I'd say 
go with Bernie since the Cherokee Princess has not jumped in yet.  He is 
also a lot more entertaining than Hilz and doesn't have that 
paint-stripping vocal manner.


But, what difference, at this point, does it make?

--R



On 6/30/15 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced
emissions. The solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of
years ago when the whole Earth was globally warm, before racist
bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle
flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned into all which turns
into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered soybean
bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions
of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered
chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid you can pump
into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.

You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in
your Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.

--R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange
yellow green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)




On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada. No
Suburban smog, no
CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.

--R




On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Oh my lord

Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning
your eyes if not for
dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated
by human activity
(burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult
for you to understand?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via
Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning. 
by 10 am it was hazy.


By
5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this
from one suburban!!

The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!
Oh The pollution!  Oh The
Humanity!


no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


...


...


...

Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in
Canyada.

But the point is that natural pollution far
exceeds the total
accumulation
of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest
fars etc create massive
pollution, and generally within hours, the
earf's regenerative powers
(trees) have mitigated the pollution.

For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being
obscured so I didn't get
sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the
same today so the sun is
still obscured.

Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60
miles on my tractor. 1950
style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Scaffolding support is being built for both of them I wager, in preparation
for their treason trial and conviction. If not being built, the plans and
permits have been applied for.

The Citizens are reaching their tolerance critical mass rather quickly, I
believe.
The great society experiment with socialism has turned into a bad acid trip
and it seems to me, there is about to be a whole lot of harsh brought onto
a whole pile of mellows.

Just observations, from my view at the back of the dog team..



On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced emissions. The
  solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the
 whole
  Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic
  gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and
 turned
  into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered
  soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions
 of
  years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered chemical
 battery
  that just happens to be a liquid you can pump into a tank and combust in
  your German dizzel engine.
 
  You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your
  Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
 
  --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow
 green
  blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
 
 
 
 
  On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
  OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
 
  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog,
 no
  CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
 
  --R
 
 
 
 
  On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 
   Oh my lord
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning your eyes if not
 for
  dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
  (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to
  understand?
 
  On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was
  hazy.
 
  By
  5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
 
  The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh
  The
  Humanity!
 
 
  no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
 
 
  ...
 
 
  ...
 
 
  ...
 
  Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
 
  But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
  accumulation
  of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create
 massive
  pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative
 powers
  (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
 
  For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't
 get
  sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun
 is
  still obscured.
 
  Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
  1950
  style!
 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Then you would be like Lt Wacko

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
 
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced emissions. The
 solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when the whole
 Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe misogynistic
 gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow rednecks, and turned
 into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you use newer solar-powered
 soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using solar power that is millions of
 years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a giant solar-powered chemical battery
 that just happens to be a liquid you can pump into a tank and combust in
 your German dizzel engine.
 
 You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your
 Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.
 
 --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow green
 blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)
 
 
 
 
 On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
 OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.
 
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban smog, no
 CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 
 On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Oh my lord
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning your eyes if not for
 dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human activity
 (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you to
 understand?
 
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was
 hazy.
 
 By
 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!
 
 The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  Oh
 The
 Humanity!
 
 
 no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!
 
 
 ...
 
 
 ...
 
 
 ...
 
 Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.
 
 But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total
 accumulation
 of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars etc create massive
 pollution, and generally within hours, the earf's regenerative powers
 (trees) have mitigated the pollution.
 
 For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't get
 sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so the sun is
 still obscured.
 
 Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
 1950
 style!
 
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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I think I'll just wait for things to play out.  Lots of campaigning left,
lots of inquiries, lots of discovery, debates, etc. await.  Must get
popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have a serious question here, Andy is the just the guy to help me out.

 Hillary! very clearly has some huge baggage she is dragging around, most
 recently this whole business with the personal unsecured email server,
 running national-sensitive stuff through it, lying about it, not turning
 over all the stuff that has been subpoenaed, using employees of her
 foundation to run intel operations, stonewalling Congress, taking huge
 amounts of foreign money into the foundation while SoS and dealing with
 issues related to those donations, ... the list goes on.

 Are Hillary! supporters really blind to all of this, or does it not
 matter, or do they think that none of this is real or has any relevance to
 the assumption that it is Her Turn?

 I really want to know this.  I don't want partisan bashing of her or any
 other candidate, I truly want to know if the HRC supporters have
 explanations for all this that makes it irrelevant to her candidacy.  I
 have friends/acquaintances who really see nothing here to be concerned
 about, but can't articulate any reasons.  It's like they just ignore it, or
 don't see it, or something, when clearly it is out there and fairly
 important stuff.

 --R




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 It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
 who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

 Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
 highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough
 mealy-mouthed
 politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
 Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



 On June 30, 2015 at 11:15 AM G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Scaffolding support is being built for both of them I wager, in preparation
 for their treason trial and conviction. If not being built, the plans and
 permits have been applied for.
 
 The Citizens are reaching their tolerance critical mass rather quickly, I
 believe.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-reset-button.html

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
  Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

 Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
 highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed
 politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
 Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


I have a serious question here, Andy is the just the guy to help me out.

Hillary! very clearly has some huge baggage she is dragging around, most 
recently this whole business with the personal unsecured email server, 
running national-sensitive stuff through it, lying about it, not turning 
over all the stuff that has been subpoenaed, using employees of her 
foundation to run intel operations, stonewalling Congress, taking huge 
amounts of foreign money into the foundation while SoS and dealing with 
issues related to those donations, ... the list goes on.


Are Hillary! supporters really blind to all of this, or does it not 
matter, or do they think that none of this is real or has any relevance 
to the assumption that it is Her Turn?


I really want to know this.  I don't want partisan bashing of her or any 
other candidate, I truly want to know if the HRC supporters have 
explanations for all this that makes it irrelevant to her candidacy.  I 
have friends/acquaintances who really see nothing here to be concerned 
about, but can't articulate any reasons.  It's like they just ignore it, 
or don't see it, or something, when clearly it is out there and fairly 
important stuff.


--R



On 6/30/15 12:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It's a tossup as to who is the greater buffoon between him and Christie,
who officially announced today.  Get out the popcorn.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the
highest office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed
politicians for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

A clown - a really rich (just ask 'im - no, no, just wait a second, he'll 
tell ya) clown.

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when elected 
president he will change his hairstyle to something more manageable and 
that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too busy for an 
elaborate combover!

--R

On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone 
else I'll never understand.

His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

He is perfectly grounded in hair reality.  He announced that when 
elected president he will change his hairstyle to something more 
manageable and that takes less time to deal with.  He's gonna be too 
busy for an elaborate combover!


--R



On 6/30/15 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else I'll 
never understand.
His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


This is pretty funny

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2015/06/30/millennials-in-shock-over-hillarys-cribs-n2019141

--R

On 6/30/15 4:04 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know how anyone could support HRC.  Her record consists of
incompetence, coverups, and conspiracy to cover up.  Bernie is a socialist,
and I don't want a socialist president.  But at least he would provide a
clear choice to the voters: WYSIWYG, not a political shape-shifter like HRC.

Greg



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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Correction, Trump tells it as he sees it through his warped lens. Dude is 
crazy, how anybody with hair that bad could dare to criticize someone else I'll 
never understand.
His latests slam of latinos is pretty telling...
-Curt
  From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling
   

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

Trump. American needs a successful businessman/wheeler-dealer in the highest 
office to straighten out the nation. We've had enough mealy-mouthed politicians 
for a while. Trump always tells it like it is.
Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

I don't know how anyone could support HRC.  Her record consists of
incompetence, coverups, and conspiracy to cover up.  Bernie is a socialist,
and I don't want a socialist president.  But at least he would provide a
clear choice to the voters: WYSIWYG, not a political shape-shifter like HRC.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You are emitting displaced emissions -- time-displaced emissions. 
 The solar-powered dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago when 
 the whole Earth was globally warm, before racist bigot trans/homophobe 
 misogynistic gun-totin bible-thumping battle flag-wavin non-rainbow 
 rednecks, and turned into all which turns into dino-dizzel (unless you 
 use newer solar-powered soybean bio-dizzel) so really you are using 
 solar power that is millions of years old.  The dino-dizzel is like a 
 giant solar-powered chemical battery that just happens to be a liquid 
 you can pump into a tank and combust in your German dizzel engine.

 You can FEEL better now about it, and not have to turn in your 
 Bernie Sanders Fan Club Membership Card.

 --R (off to the tattoo parlor to see if I can get some orange yellow 
 green blue indigo and violet stripes tattooed on my neck)




 On 6/30/15 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 OTOH, I do drive two diesels so am partly to blame.

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Apparently that is due to some wildfires in Canada.  No Suburban 
 smog, no
 CFPP emissions, just solar-powered vegetation burning.

 --R




 On 6/30/15 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

  Oh my lord

 Sent from my iPhone

   On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 

 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So-called natural pollution wouldn't be burning your eyes if not 
 for dramatically hotter and drier weather, exacerbated by human 
 activity (burning fossil fuels).  Why is this so difficult for you 
 to understand?

 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   The sun was brilliant yesterday in the morning.  by 10 am it was 
 hazy.

 By
 5 pm it was dark as dusk with smoke.  All this from one suburban!!

 The sky is falling!  the sun has burned out!  Oh The pollution!  
 Oh The Humanity!


 no more global warming!  the ice age is coming!


 ...


 ...


 ...

 Well, actually it is smoke from forest fars in Canyada.

 But the point is that natural pollution far exceeds the total 
 accumulation of all manmade pollution.  Volcanoes, forest fars 
 etc create massive pollution, and generally within hours, the 
 earf's regenerative powers
 (trees) have mitigated the pollution.

 For yesterday, I was happy for the sun being obscured so I didn't 
 get sunburned.  I hope the fars and winds are the same today so 
 the sun is still obscured.

 Have a good day!  I am off to drive another 60 miles on my tractor.
 1950
 style!

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Re: [MBZ] the sky is falling

2015-06-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Stop, please STOP!  Hillary! simply MUST be the Democrat nominee, she's our 
only hope!  Stop rocking the boat, man!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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2015-06-30 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Bernie.  His politics may suck but he is a stand-up guy with integrity.

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 Would you prefer I support Bernie or Hillary?
 


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