Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Bill Ringgold
I love train travel - except for the schedule. To visit family in Ocala from S FL I had to ask for a car to be left with a hidden key for the 3:20 AM arrival and do the reverse for the 4:20 AM departure. That was not fun. Cheap, though, and a good book... BillR -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
Nice work. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Bill
Gerry - is that First Christian as in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) [I attend one of those], or one of the independents? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:07 AM To:

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread archer
From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... . Are the seats as scrunched up as those on buses and planes, or do you have adequate

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D

2007-12-17 Thread OK Don
Interesting - We've owned one new car in the 30+ years we've been married, and take at least a 4000+ mile trip every summer. The only time we've had to stop and have a car repaired was on the new car (the Plymouth van), during it's last six months of warranty - fuel pump died on I-90 at the MN/WI

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I did a little experiment yesterday, only as an experiment. I made a patch cable so to speak out of 2 computer power cords. Backfed it into one of the outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do

[MBZ] diesel

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)
So the other day diesel was down to 2.99. Today its back up to 3.15. WTF? Gas has not moved. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

[MBZ] Fw: You might be.....

2007-12-17 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] You might be. Subject: You might be... You Might Be a Member of the Taliban or Al Qaeda if... 10. You refine heroin for a living,

Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07

2007-12-17 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Thanks for that, it was wonderful. Pete, at home recuperating On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:54:24 EST, you wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/ Be sure to check the video link on the last page. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No kidding --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! No doubt

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Be very careful of old Eagles I'm interested in a bus conversation to retire in, I've done a bunch of research. Old Eagles were grand units, unfortunately most of the now have terminal rust on internal framework. Many folks have been badly burned spending 100K to convert one to a motor home

Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
oh geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car? You have a deal if I

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No, she bought a round trip for her when she was going up there on short notice. Then when she couldnt go back on time she had to just eat the trip back and get 4 short notice one ways for the way back. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] People are stupid

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
That sounds like something Jabba would say --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] People

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Dave H...
Check out Blue Birds I loved mine when I had it. :) -- From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Be

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Damn, Damn Damn --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey
outlets and had lights to half the house. Tried another outlet and had lights to the other half of the house. Wonder why it only would do half? Because the typical US home is fed with 240V, center-tapped off the supply transformer. That gives you two 120V halves of the house. You happened

Re: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07

2007-12-17 Thread Bill
Incredible shots. Thanks BillR Jacksonville FL Kids in the USAF and USCG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:54 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] SFO fleetweek '07

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Allan Streib
Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today AMTRAK doesn't compare... BUT... for $208. round-trip I can get to PENN in NYC. A good book and about 15 hours... IF there are no breakdowns, the train doesn't hit a car, etc. I've ridden AMTRAK a few times and it exception they have been the

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door wired their gen into the house and I was sort of looking at it and it looks like they replaced one of the outlets in their garage with a 240 or whatever drier type outlet. IIRC, the regular house outlets with 2 outlets have 2

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread dave walton
If you are not planning to have it inspected you can use 3 wires. Hot, Hot, Neutral. Throw in a ground to be safer and legal if you want. -Dave Walton On Dec 17, 2007 9:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AH HA. Thats kind of what I was thinking. The neighbor next door

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Allan Streib
Second sentence should say WITHOUT exception... Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF there are no breakdowns, the train doesn't hit a car, etc. I've ridden AMTRAK a few times and it exception they have been the worst travel experiences I've ever had. I

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread archer
From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerry - is that First Christian as in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) [I attend one of those], or one of the independents? BillR Jacksonville FL ... The history of the First Christian Church/Disciples of

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
You also need a generator that is wired for 240 VAC, center tapped and the center tap goes to ground (neutral). If you don't wire the center tap to ground correctly then an unbalanced load will burn some lights dim burn some lights out. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Rich Thomas
OKJ so I have to tell another story. Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages, boo). We were sitting there at a picnic table, and next to us at another

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Ditto ditto ditto Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D

2007-12-17 Thread archer
That probably depends on how well you keep your Mercedes repaired. I probably try to get too many miles out of every part; waiting until they go bad before replacing them. After a few other things in the shop are completed, I plan to spend some money and update the 300D for road trips. The

[MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-17 Thread Rich Thomas
So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy.

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Somewhere along about the Arkiesaw Tennessee border is a field next to the interstate with a bunch of old buses parked in it, one of them a Super Scenicruiser Greyhound. I bet you could get one cheap. It is just down the road from the guy with the Confederate battle flag, Aryan Nation flag,

[MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Rusty Cullens
While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5 years , developed pneumonia on the 6th of December and died yesterday. He was a WWII B24 pilot and flew 18 missions from London to Berlin and survived.

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Sorry, Rusty. Celebrate his life. Be very thankful for a good life with parents who were around. I wish you peace. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List;

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Sorry, Rusty. Celebrate his life. Be very thankful for a good life with parents who were around. I wish you peace. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List;

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Rusty, I will remember you and your family. Not a bad run for your father as they say here in RI. I know the dementia is hard-my 87 year old mother has it and seems to have slipped more each time I come down to see my parents. . Take care of your self. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Oh geez, Im sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers are with you today. Kaleb --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-17 Thread Loren Faeth
They won't do that around here. I think you have to be within so many miles of a Stealership At 09:16 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread archer
Many of us down here in Hurricane Land have smaller generators with two 110v outlets. We buy a 50' or 100' roll of 12 gauge three wire house wiring cable, cut it in two, and put heavy duty plugs on both ends. We pull the main breakers and flip all the other breakers off, turn off everything in

Re: [MBZ] No power

2007-12-17 Thread Luther
You're 38 minutes slow. Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:55:33 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will send it to you. On Dec 16, 2007 7:10 PM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for me? Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case

Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D

2007-12-17 Thread MG
Don, The water to steam conversion should hold in any case, and it should make a bit of difference though how much I don't know (my cars both diesel and gas seem to run a bit better with more power when it is foggy). The fog droplets are still water and when heated to above 100deg C will

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? I thought about buying some wiring and running the 2 110 outlets on the gen to 2 different outlets in the house. I pretty much know which 2 I need to power the whole house. I may do that today but not sure if I want to mess with it if the power is

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey
So 12 ga wiring would be heavy enough? 12ga is good for 20A. For 30A you need 10ga, but the house plugs would only be 12ga anyway, and trying to push more than 20A through would cause the outlet's breaker to pop. Plugging into a range/drier/welder plug is still superior. Tidier, if nothing

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread archer
ROFLMAO!!! Good one! Gerry .. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKJ so I have to tell another story. Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread archer
Sorry to hear that, Rusty. My sympathies. Gerry . - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia

[MBZ] starting craziness - help!

2007-12-17 Thread Christopher McCann
battery died on the SD yesterday. No problem, will jump it. 1) The terminals were NOT hooked up backwards 2) when I tried to start the car after attaching jumper cables, the instrument cluster lights did not come on until I was in the start position (the key that is)...no starting, no turn

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
At some point I may replace one of the outlets in the garage with a drier type outlet for plugging in the gen. Better yet, next time wifes uncle who is an electrician is in the coutry, I might have him wiring in a proper switch or whatever. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread archer
I've never heard of anyone having problems with the kind of setup I described. 12 ga cable is approved for 20 amps, so 40 amps between the two cables is really overkill for the light duty appliances that will be connected. The important thing is to keep the load divided between the two legs.

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!

2007-12-17 Thread John Robbins
Christopher McCann wrote: Very strange - any ideas? I'm hoping a relay, perhaps? I checked and swapped around the ice cubes (not sure which ones do what) and that had no effect. Didn't check the other relays. Fuses are all fine. My guess is that the switch that the key tumbler connects to has

[MBZ] More light in instrument clusters

2007-12-17 Thread Glenn Brown
I followed Craig's recommendation regarding lining the light channeling/piping areas of the instrument cluster of my W123, and the result is rather dramatic. I now have the instrument cluster rheostat turned down ~ 1/3 and the instrument lighting is still brighter than it was previously when the

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I can do it in 3 hours, $95. 1 1/2 good movies on my laptop or quality time with my Gameboy. I was doing it every other month for awhile there this year. Kinda miss it... -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:13:00 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!

2007-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Christopher McCann wrote: 2) when I tried to start the car after attaching jumper cables, the instrument cluster lights did not come on until I was in the start position (the key that is)...no starting, no turn over - NOTHING...and you can't turn the key further TO start. What if the

Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!

2007-12-17 Thread Timothy Robinson
I had two of those aunts. OY! Grace and Lura. Saying their driving skills were lacking is an understatement. Their kids just encouraged them to drive big cars for their safety and hoped for the best. Lura's son was with the state highway patrol and found a Ford Crown Vic with the police

Re: [MBZ] starting craziness - help!

2007-12-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Well the boy's car had loose connectors, he jiggled them but did not tighten them before calling for the jump. I think what happened was moving from hot Texas to cold Philly, and the temps dropping up there to cold levels, loosened them just enough that they were not making good contact to

Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Timothy Robinson
I've toyed with the idea should one of those rust free W123s in Arizona look appealing! Nice thing about fares on the train is it doesn't seem one is penalized in buying a one way ticket. Brother recently bought airfare on short notice and found it cheaper to buy round-trip though he wouldn't use

Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I recently went from RI (Kingston Station -KIN) to Baltimore for 131.00 RT with AAA discount. Wonderful irony there. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt

Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a

[MBZ] Read and weep-300CD

2007-12-17 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
The seller of that one here in RI just e-mailed me-he sold it for 750.00. One can only fantasize. (Or rationalize). Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread LarryT
Hello, Rusty -, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. Dementia and the related Alzheimers are so devastating. Any disease that makes people forget the spouse they loved for a 1/2 century or more is so hard on those nearby as well as the one suffering from the disease - even if they don't

Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB

2007-12-17 Thread Timothy Robinson
I discovered the local providers for AAA emergency roadside service DO NOT LIKE DIESELS! Flatly was told on the phone, We can provide gasoline but do not deliver diesel. They're also hesitant to answer a call in jumping a diesel. I can kinda understand as I remember those early 80s 5.7 GM

[MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-17 Thread Allan Streib
Looking at a chinese ATV for kid's use. 50CC two stroke. Looks fairly well put together, good welds everywhere I can see etc. Less than HALF the price of an equivalent Yamaha or Suzuki. Since he'll outgrow it in a a coupla years anyway, seems like a good choice. Anyone have any first-hand

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Timothy Robinson
Sincere condolences also! One can only celebrate a life lived well and full. Though the loss is quite real to us, we should hope to live such a long and honorable life. In the case of my grandmother who passed last June at 94 y/o, there are no regrets in the patience and love that allowed her

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Harry Watkins
Sorry to hear of your loss, my prayers are with all his family. Thank God for him and others that were willing to climb in that plane time after time to help secure the freedom we all enjoy. I hope I get to go to his part of Heaven. Harry On Dec 17, 2007 11:24 AM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL

[MBZ] Fat Aunties

2007-12-17 Thread archer
Here's one from the Mercedes List: Love, Pop . Right after I got married we went to a (wife's) family reunion, mostly for her parents to show us off to everyone, a large family. We hung around, had some food (no adult beverages). We were sitting there at a

[MBZ] Re; Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread MG
Hi Gerry, The picture of your father shows a type of locomotive with a 4-4-0 wheel arrangement. These are usually known as an American. If you can make out the number on the front and the railroad name I might be able to find out more about that particular loco. Manfred Gerry wrote; Date:

[MBZ] Another Generator Question

2007-12-17 Thread R A Bennell
Should the generator itself be grounded? I can't help thinking that there should be a connection from the generator frame to a good ground. I have considered driving a ground rod in and either keeping a ground wire on it all of the time or setting up something that would permit a quick ground

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Since he'll outgrow it in a a coupla years anyway, seems like a good choice. Anyone have any first-hand experience with them? Nope, but it's my guess that resale value is much less than half. I'm often stunned at the asking prices for TRX50, Kitty Cat snowmobiles,

[MBZ] Hello Again

2007-12-17 Thread Donald Snook
I have been out of my office in depositions about 22 of the last 30 days. I have been traveling to Chicago, El Paso, Mississippi (and a few of those places back and forth several times). At any rate, I have about a million emails to read and including TONS of emails from the Mercedes List.

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
My sincere condolences, Rusty. I have the deepest respect for WWII vets, and it saddens me that so many are slipping away without their stories being recorded. Every time one passes on a little light goes out of the world. Sounds like your father will be remembered by you at least. That's the

Re: [MBZ] Re; Father R.M.Archer 4th from left

2007-12-17 Thread archer
Hi Manfred, The number is probably 3883, although it could be 3833 or; very unlikely; 3853. The third number is very indistinct. I used a powerful magnifier to look at it. Gerry --- Hi Gerry, The picture of your father shows a type of locomotive with a

[MBZ] The good fight

2007-12-17 Thread wilton strickland
My sincere condolences, Rusty. We're losing too many of that Greatest Generation too fast, including 2 of my brothers. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread ernest breakfield
Rusty, my condolences. losing parents can't ever be easy, especially to see them as their bodies deteriorate around them. it sounds like he had a full life, and at least now he isn't suffering. you're fortunate that you and the rest of your family knew him and had him as long as you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah the shop down the street I help out at sells some, ETON brand. They're okay but disposable, once something breaks you might as well throw it away, they are not made to be repaired. Resale value is very low because of the above. A good branded ATV kept in good shape will hold almost stupid

[MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
http://www.storyofstuff.com/ I'm fairly impressed with this, she's got good examples and cites some good sources. I buy alot of stuff used and I'm fairly disgusted with our consumer society. Its interesting to see these messages getting more common. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Rusty Cullens
Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back was 6. He did it 18 times! No wonder he lived to be 86. I think that is the most amazing of all his WWII stories. Except maybe the ones about the nice English girls..oops, I forget

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Sunil Hari
My thoughts are with you and your family - I'm just happy to hear that he lived into his mid-80s and (seemingly) lived a full life. On 12/17/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the best part. He flew 18 missions with 11 other planes in his formation. The MOST that ever came back

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-17 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah the shop down the street I help out at sells some, ETON brand. They're okay but disposable, once something breaks you might as well throw it away, they are not made to be repaired. Resale value is very low because of the above. A good branded ATV

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Frederick W Moir
Rusty and Family. Please accept our deepest condolences. Another good man gone to his reward. Joanne and Fred Moir At 10:22 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: While we are all in prayer mode for Kaleb and Regina and their families, let's add me to the list. My 86 father who had Dementia for the last 5

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Just curious, did your dad do any flying after the war outside of the military? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 13:39 To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Rusty Cullens
Delta came calling but he promised his mother he would go to college as he was a small town boy (Wrightsville, GA, home of Herschel walker for you football fans) he was the only one in his high school graduating class to get a college degree. He met my mom in college so I am glad he didn't work

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread LarryT
I agree with Alex's sentiment about loses the WW2 vets stories - but there are some organizations that are working to preserve their memories. The Legacy Foundation is collecting Letters From Home from any and all WW2 vets so their words can be preserved forever. I plan to donate my Dad's

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yea, Delta would have been cool though, or at least flying in general. I still want to get into it myself but not sure it will ever happen --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Rusty Cullens
My wife I were going through some of my dad's stuff last night and came across some of his dad's letters home when he was in WWI. He was in France across the big pond as he said in his letters. He wrote that he hoped she would get these letters as he was afraid he would never come home. How

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: I plan to donate my Dad's letters to my Mom once I finish reading them. Shove those puppies through the scanner and burn them to CD for the family archives. I'll have to ask my parents if their letters from Dad's Army days are private or if they are family history. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Flying rocks. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over Yea, Delta would have been cool though, or at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread John Freer
No, it's actually 51% when you factor in the ongoing military benefits1.2B total. On 12/17/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lost me when she said 50% of the tax dollars go to the military ... not even close. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Rusty Cullens
I took him to Peachtree Dekalb airport near here on his 80th birthday and he flew an old Stearman PT-17 trainer that he learned on. He flew about an hour, there was an instructor in the seat behind him. He had a ball. he couldn't quit talking about for days. That was fun. I have his original

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Robert Rentfro
Having an evidence of portions of family history like that must be exciting. My family was either horrible about saving/documenting/telling stories or just didn't care about our history. Really creates a little void. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
cool!! --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over I took him to

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
Rusty, Sorry to hear of your loss but at least he could talk about the war. All three of my Uncles fought in WW2 all three have been gone for a while now. Two of them told some great stories while one refused to discuss the subject. My youngest Son was on the ground during the last Iraq war -

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Allan Streib
My grandfather on my father's side was an engineer in WWI. My parents still have his uniform, flag from his funeral, a few photographs, etc. in a trunk. I have only vague memories of him. My condolences on your loss. Allan Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife I were going

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
Rusty, my sincere condolences for your loss. His story illustrates the courage and heart of that Greatest generation. I don't think Americans today can begin to appreciate the dedication and sacrifice of the WWII generation. At my father's funeral (he flew P-47s in China) his brother (Army

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
Well, according to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2003/hist.html, The estimated FY07 outlays for Defense are 442B plus an additional 62B for veteran's benefits with total outlays at 2,467B. That works out to be 20% by my calculator. How do you come up with 51%? -Original

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chinese ATVs

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Not really, the plastic is expendable as are the tires. A trashed one is where the motor was run with no oil or it was full of water because it was left outside. In fact being left outside is probably the #1 killer of equipment. I've had some where the gas tank, carb, and crankcase were totally

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Curt Raymond
One made up fact doesn't mean she's all wrong. I'm not sure she's even wrong on that. http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/Spending.asp - okay 41% but thats closer to half than a quarter. I don't have time for a big search... Anyway don't

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
Not many thinks of finances this way, but most of the money spent on defense goes right back into our economy in the form of jobs, benefits, etc. In other words, it's not wasted. Also, military spending to reasearch new weapons, weapon systems and medical procedures have had a tremendous positive

Re: [MBZ] The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:37:54 -0700, you wrote: Having an evidence of portions of family history like that must be exciting. My family was either horrible about saving/documenting/telling stories or just didn't care about our history. Really creates a little void. I have my Great Grandfather's

Re: [MBZ] generator

2007-12-17 Thread dave walton
Also consider using a non-contact thermometer to measure the temperature of the breakers in your circuit box periodically. A breaker will experience premature failure if it is operated at more than 85% of it's capacity. You can tell when that is happening because they heat up. In my experience,

Re: [MBZ] donations, was The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter T. Arnold wrote: I have my Great Grandfather's Pistol, Sword, Cartridge Container, Belt and Buckle from his visit into the Virginias during the 1860's. We also have a letter he wrote during that time, witnessed a hanging. I want to donate to a museum in hopes of keeping it together.

Re: [MBZ] donations, was The good fight is over

2007-12-17 Thread Tom Hargrave
More responsible museums will not auction your stuff but more responsible museums also have 2 - 5 items in storage for every item on display. In other words, your Great Grandfather's stuff will likely sit in the back somewhere. An option is to loan the items to a museum with the condition that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Story of stuff

2007-12-17 Thread Scott Ritchey
I watched it again. I agree that she makes some valid points; for example, consumerism is out of control (think I'll send the link to my stepson). But she doesn't help the message by using made up facts, particularly if they are not relevant to the message. Or maybe the real message is bigger

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