Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On February 23, 2018 at 4:45 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe any kind of off-body carry is inferior. 

Purse carry seems common these days. 
Is purse snatching still common too?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[G Mann via Mercedes]

State of Texas passed a law that has teachers who volunteer for the task go
through 80 hours of Law Enforcement Officer training and upon completion,
they are made Marshals with full LEO powers of arrest. It is the same
course and training qualifications that all LEO officers must pass.

As Marshals, they carry concealed weapons while on duty as teachers,
without anyone at the school knowing who is armed, and who is not a Marshal.

As certified LEO, they bypass the "School gun free zone" federal law, which
was Joe Biden's pet project, and IMHO, should be named "Unarmed Victim
Zone, shoot anyone you want".

My considered personal opinion is that Texas has found a well thought out
solution that affords a higher degree of protection for our children while
in school.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I believe any kind of off-body carry is inferior.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Curley McLain via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:27 PM
> >
> > Both reasons why I'd modify it to allow CC, or for those  not willing to
> > CC: something like a well secured fingerprint locker hidden in the room
> the
> > person normally was in.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I believe any kind of off-body carry is inferior. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Curley McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 4:27 PM
> 
> Both reasons why I'd modify it to allow CC, or for those  not willing to
> CC: something like a well secured fingerprint locker hidden in the room the
> person normally was in.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Both reasons why I'd modify it to allow CC, or for those  not willing to 
CC: something like a well secured fingerprint locker hidden in the room 
the person normally was in.



Craig via Mercedes 
February 23, 2018 at 3:20 PM
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:25:33 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes

The bad guy could station himself by the gun lockup/storage area and pick
off the teachers coming to arm themselves ...


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:25:33 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Also how would they stay anonymous if they had to go to a gun
> lockup/storage area?

The bad guy could station himself by the gun lockup/storage area and pick
off the teachers coming to arm themselves ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm thinking there was also a nuclear medicine clinic in the medical arts
building.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cambridge MA was also a nukular-free zone. There was a sign just past the
> Mass Ave bridge as you came over from Boston. It was about 1/4mi from MIT’s
> reactor right there on Mass Ave you would drive by about 30sec later.
>
> Cambridge was also a domestic-violence-free zone.  That worked out pretty
> well.
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Feb 23, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > the extremely liberal UW Madison
> > campus (which was also a "nuklear free zone", never mind that little
> > reactor over on the engineering campus).
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Cambridge MA was also a nukular-free zone. There was a sign just past the Mass 
Ave bridge as you came over from Boston. It was about 1/4mi from MIT’s reactor 
right there on Mass Ave you would drive by about 30sec later. 

Cambridge was also a domestic-violence-free zone.  That worked out pretty well. 
 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> the extremely liberal UW Madison
> campus (which was also a "nuklear free zone", never mind that little
> reactor over on the engineering campus).

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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This (or a similar approach) has to happen in all public and large 
private schools.  I would allow CC, as it will cut a minute or more off 
the response time.  Once again, Texas takes a stand for liberty and for 
common sense.


Viva Texas!  Viva the Texas spirit!

I also believe allowing retired military and LEOs to volunteer to patrol 
skools in organized shifts is a good idea.  (or even well trained citizens)


Better yet, we should abolish the fed Dept of misedjamacation, the state 
departments of misedjamacation, tear down the huge brain factories 
(Pushers haven) and return education to the parents and neighborhood 
schools.


Funny how someone who had an 8th grade education in the 1920s or before 
could do calculus, knew American history, classical literature, had a 
vocabulary that is probably twice that of the average amerikun now, etc. 
while our brain factories drug the kids and turn out people not fit to 
be citizens.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
February 23, 2018 at 9:13 AM
Interesting interview on NPR this morning with a school district 
superintendent in Holiday, TX. Seems they allow firearms by staff and 
teachers on campus after a psych exam and in-depth training. The 
personnel who participate in this program are not identified nor are 
the administrators aware of who they are. It’s a program that was 
legislated into being about five years ago in TX, and requires the 
participants to go through over 80 hours of training, same kind than 
an LEO would go through. When they complete it successfully, they’re 
considered a “Marshall” under TX law.


I don’t have an opinion on this other than if people can have firearms 
on campus, this is a good way to go about it. I would add that they 
can’t carry concealed, as the firearm must be secured in the building 
and not on their person.


Education and training is the key to firearm safety under all 
circumstances.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

When I was in college, one day we (the rifle and pistol team) invited a
USMC Sergeant who was part of the Navy ROTC unit to bring his personal
weapons to our shooting range, which was located in the bowels of the
football stadium (Camp Randall, an Army outpost, was land-granted to the UW
system at some point, was the heart of the Madison campus, and the Army
like to remind them when the threats to ban ROTC from campus got too
boisterous that the Army could revoke that land grant if the need ever
arose).  IIRC he had a MAC-10 (semi-auto) and a small semi-auto pistol.  He
opted to keep his weapons on his person all day, rather than leave them in
his Geo Tracker (or similar) because that vehicle was too easy to break
into.  So he went to classes all over campus with a MAC-10 in his book bag
and the pistol tucked in his belt under his shirt, pistol loaded.  I think
he also had his K-bar tucked into one of his boots.  When he got to the
range that afternoon, we all thought that was pretty funny, how he was
armed to the teeth all day, walking around the extremely liberal UW Madison
campus (which was also a "nuklear free zone", never mind that little
reactor over on the engineering campus).

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Good questions, I don’t know the answers.

-D

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure I understand what good the gun would do if they didn't actually 
> have it.
> 
> Also how would they stay anonymous if they had to go to a gun lockup/storage 
> area?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:13:27 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting interview on NPR this morning with a school district 
> superintendent in Holiday, TX.  Seems they allow firearms by staff and 
> teachers on campus after a psych exam and in-depth training.  The personnel 
> who participate in this program are not identified nor are the administrators 
> aware of who they are.  It’s a program that was legislated into being about 
> five years ago in TX, and requires the participants to go through over 80 
> hours of training, same kind than an LEO would go through.  When they 
> complete it successfully, they’re considered a “Marshall” under TX law.
> 
> I don’t have an opinion on this other than if people can have firearms on 
> campus, this is a good way to go about it.  I would add that they can’t carry 
> concealed, as the firearm must be secured in the building and not on their 
> person.
> 
> Education and training is the key to firearm safety under all circumstances.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Some of you guys are old enough to remember this too:  When I was in high 
>> school, the threats were not guns.  Many of us had them in the car.  It was 
>> bombs.  The bomb threats started each year in the fall, let up in the 
>> winter, and became very often in the spring.  The IRA was bombing.  In this 
>> country, the SDS, and 'bummers buddies and advisers were bombing and 
>> robbing.  The media and (J) lunatics believe if guns are banned, the killing 
>> will stop.  They are wrong.  If one weapon is not available, another weapon 
>> will be used.  Able slew Cain.  Some believe Able used a rock. Others say it 
>> was the jawbone of an ass.  Either way, he used whatever was handy to kill.  
>> The problem is evil  in the heart of man (generic use), not the weapon.
>> 
>> I was sooo glad to be done with high school and the constant bomb 
>> threats, especially in the spring.  I was so glad when my kids got out 
>> of high school and the endless threats there.
>> 
>>  So, back to the subject, How do we organize to ban the cars and 
>> bathtubs?  I want some of the soreass money to organize these movements. 
>> 
>> 
>> In israel, everywhere you go, the citizens carry guns.  Threats are quickly 
>> dispatched by armed citizens.  Perhaps if our schools and public places were 
>> crawling with armed citizens (Militia) these attention seeking cowards would 
>> rely on fakebuch for notoriety in place of shooting.
>> 
>> 
>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>> February 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM
>>> Chicago is one of the leading success stories for rich cultural diversity 
>>> and the Democrat party; therefore, there can be nothing bad that anyone 
>>> could possibly find there.  There might be some challenges and room for 
>>> improvement that spending more money will clearly solve.  Send money.  
>>> Elect more democrats.  Ban guns.  (Oh wait that last one is already in 
>>> place, never mind)
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm not sure I understand what good the gun would do if they didn't actually 
have it.

Also how would they stay anonymous if they had to go to a gun lockup/storage 
area?

-Curt






On Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:13:27 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Interesting interview on NPR this morning with a school district superintendent 
in Holiday, TX.  Seems they allow firearms by staff and teachers on campus 
after a psych exam and in-depth training.  The personnel who participate in 
this program are not identified nor are the administrators aware of who they 
are.  It’s a program that was legislated into being about five years ago in TX, 
and requires the participants to go through over 80 hours of training, same 
kind than an LEO would go through.  When they complete it successfully, they’re 
considered a “Marshall” under TX law.

I don’t have an opinion on this other than if people can have firearms on 
campus, this is a good way to go about it.  I would add that they can’t carry 
concealed, as the firearm must be secured in the building and not on their 
person.

Education and training is the key to firearm safety under all circumstances.

-D

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some of you guys are old enough to remember this too:  When I was in high 
> school, the threats were not guns.  Many of us had them in the car.  It was 
> bombs.  The bomb threats started each year in the fall, let up in the winter, 
> and became very often in the spring.  The IRA was bombing.  In this country, 
> the SDS, and 'bummers buddies and advisers were bombing and robbing.  The 
> media and (J) lunatics believe if guns are banned, the killing will stop.  
> They are wrong.  If one weapon is not available, another weapon will be used. 
>  Able slew Cain.  Some believe Able used a rock. Others say it was the 
> jawbone of an ass.  Either way, he used whatever was handy to kill.  The 
> problem is evil  in the heart of man (generic use), not the weapon.
> 
> I was sooo glad to be done with high school and the constant bomb 
> threats, especially in the spring.  I was so glad when my kids got out of 
> high school and the endless threats there.
> 
>  So, back to the subject, How do we organize to ban the cars and 
> bathtubs?  I want some of the soreass money to organize these movements. 
> 
> 
> In israel, everywhere you go, the citizens carry guns.  Threats are quickly 
> dispatched by armed citizens.  Perhaps if our schools and public places were 
> crawling with armed citizens (Militia) these attention seeking cowards would 
> rely on fakebuch for notoriety in place of shooting.
> 
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> February 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM
>> Chicago is one of the leading success stories for rich cultural diversity 
>> and the Democrat party; therefore, there can be nothing bad that anyone 
>> could possibly find there.  There might be some challenges and room for 
>> improvement that spending more money will clearly solve.  Send money.  Elect 
>> more democrats.  Ban guns.  (Oh wait that last one is already in place, 
>> never mind)
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Interesting interview on NPR this morning with a school district superintendent 
in Holiday, TX.  Seems they allow firearms by staff and teachers on campus 
after a psych exam and in-depth training.  The personnel who participate in 
this program are not identified nor are the administrators aware of who they 
are.  It’s a program that was legislated into being about five years ago in TX, 
and requires the participants to go through over 80 hours of training, same 
kind than an LEO would go through.  When they complete it successfully, they’re 
considered a “Marshall” under TX law.

I don’t have an opinion on this other than if people can have firearms on 
campus, this is a good way to go about it.  I would add that they can’t carry 
concealed, as the firearm must be secured in the building and not on their 
person.

Education and training is the key to firearm safety under all circumstances.

-D

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some of you guys are old enough to remember this too:   When I was in high 
> school, the threats were not guns.  Many of us had them in the car.  It was 
> bombs.  The bomb threats started each year in the fall, let up in the winter, 
> and became very often in the spring.  The IRA was bombing.  In this country, 
> the SDS, and 'bummers buddies and advisers were bombing and robbing.  The 
> media and (J) lunatics believe if guns are banned, the killing will stop.  
> They are wrong.  If one weapon is not available, another weapon will be used. 
>  Able slew Cain.  Some believe Able used a rock. Others say it was the 
> jawbone of an ass.  Either way, he used whatever was handy to kill.  The 
> problem is evil  in the heart of man (generic use), not the weapon.
> 
> I was sooo glad to be done with high school and the constant bomb 
> threats, especially in the spring.   I was so glad when my kids got out 
> of high school and the endless threats there.
> 
>  So, back to the subject, How do we organize to ban the cars and 
> bathtubs?  I want some of the soreass money to organize these movements. 
> 
> 
> In israel, everywhere you go, the citizens carry guns.  Threats are quickly 
> dispatched by armed citizens.  Perhaps if our schools and public places were 
> crawling with armed citizens (Militia) these attention seeking cowards would 
> rely on fakebuch for notoriety in place of shooting.
> 
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> February 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM
>> Chicago is one of the leading success stories for rich cultural diversity 
>> and the Democrat party; therefore, there can be nothing bad that anyone 
>> could possibly find there.  There might be some challenges and room for 
>> improvement that spending more money will clearly solve.  Send money.  Elect 
>> more democrats.  Ban guns.  (Oh wait that last one is already in place, 
>> never mind)
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Some of you guys are old enough to remember this too:   When I was in 
high school, the threats were not guns.  Many of us had them in the 
car.  It was bombs.  The bomb threats started each year in the fall, let 
up in the winter, and became very often in the spring.  The IRA was 
bombing.  In this country, the SDS, and 'bummers buddies and advisers 
were bombing and robbing.  The media and (J) lunatics believe if guns 
are banned, the killing will stop.  They are wrong.  If one weapon is 
not available, another weapon will be used.  Able slew Cain.  Some 
believe Able used a rock. Others say it was the jawbone of an ass.  
Either way, he used whatever was handy to kill.  The problem is evil  in 
the heart of man (generic use), not the weapon.


I was sooo glad to be done with high school and the constant bomb 
threats, especially in the spring.   I was so glad when my kids got 
out of high school and the endless threats there.


 So, back to the subject, How do we organize to ban the cars and 
bathtubs?  I want some of the soreass money to organize these movements. 



In israel, everywhere you go, the citizens carry guns.  Threats are 
quickly dispatched by armed citizens.  Perhaps if our schools and public 
places were crawling with armed citizens (Militia) these attention 
seeking cowards would rely on fakebuch for notoriety in place of shooting.




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 23, 2018 at 7:09 AM
Chicago is one of the leading success stories for rich cultural 
diversity and the Democrat party; therefore, there can be nothing bad 
that anyone could possibly find there.  There might be some challenges 
and room for improvement that spending more money will clearly solve.  
Send money.  Elect more democrats.  Ban guns.  (Oh wait that last one 
is already in place, never mind)


--FT





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[MBZ] OT Re: Ban the cars

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Chicago is one of the leading success stories for rich cultural 
diversity and the Democrat party; therefore, there can be nothing bad 
that anyone could possibly find there.  There might be some challenges 
and room for improvement that spending more money will clearly solve.  
Send money.  Elect more democrats.  Ban guns.  (Oh wait that last one is 
already in place, never mind)


--FT


On 2/22/18 11:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

"ban the cars"

Cars kill far more teens than guns

"Ban Chicago"

Chicago kills more kids some weekends than were lost at the FL high 
school.   Chicago kills every week, week after week.


Ban Knives
Knives kill more kids than guns

"Ban Bathtubs"
Bathtubs are one of the leading killers in the USA.

Oh, sorry, facts and logic don't count.  only emote.  We have to "do 
something now!"  no matter how wrong and and even though it will 
"help" nothing.



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