Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-08-14 Thread Ed Booher
What are you talking about, I name *all* of my cars :) EdB On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: RIP Gump. One of the last named cars. -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
My Dad conducted Traviata and Rigoletto as well as the Puccini staples, and as much as I love Tosca and Boheme I have come to appreciate Verdi more and more through the years. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers,

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread LWB250
-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini.  Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini.  His lyricism and placement

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread Randy Bennell
PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, no composer is as easy to sing, sounds challenging

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread Luther's Benz
of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogs lt;benz-n-h...@gulseth.netgt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD AAAHH

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread Luther's Benz
:51 PM gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD gt; gt; AAAHH, Puccini. Among opera singers, it is common to feel that gt; no other composer new the voice as well as Puccini. His lyricism and gt; placement of the right vowel in a certain part of your range. Mainly, gt; no composer

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread LWB250
Absolutely. Both opera and classical are best heard at home. Yesterday it was Rush Signals. Dan From: Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread Gerry Archer
haven't seen him around for any of their performances. Probably just a gig to get him on the bill... Dan From: Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD - Long Live Opera!

2011-07-29 Thread Benz Hogs
Good voice. Free and connected through her whole range. Helps that she's gorgeous too Anyone who can sing with Placido is definitely SOMEONE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-WrP_duhgfeature=related Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Donald Snook
astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread astrasfogel
2011 11:01:50 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.comMercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK.  Let me phrase this slightly differently. If you were limited to ONE composer whom would you choose to listen to exclusively7 And if you had to choose ONE single composition, what would it be? For the first question, if I

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Mozart and Wagner, without exception. Puccini when it comes to opera. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer?

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
Vivaldi and I wouldn't look back On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Mozart and Wagner, without exception. Puccini when it comes to opera. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: astrasfogel wrote: So

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Dan Penoff
The V Man is up there, but I think Mo had more range as far as composition. Just my 0.02 shekels. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2011, at 3:04 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Vivaldi and I wouldn't look back On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Peter Hertzing
Well - I played the Cello in my younger years... back when I had limited talent instead of none, and vivaldi had a huge number of things that I found to be just amazing. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: The V Man is up there, but I think Mo had more range as

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Well - I played the Cello in my younger years... back when I had limited talent instead of none, and vivaldi had a huge number of things that I found to be just amazing. I can definitely see how that would be an

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: OK. ?Let me phrase this slightly differently. If you were limited to ONE composer whom would you choose to listen to Exclusively. This is a very difficult question. It would be too hard to decide between Mozart, Bach and Wagner. I enjoy listening to Mozart the most because of

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread redghost
I have a spare head clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: If you have a 240 piston, I need one! There are four, but attached

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Max Dillon
Jimmy, you nailed it. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Andrew wrote: OK. ?Let me phrase this slightly differently. If you were limited to ONE composer whom would you choose to listen to Exclusively. This is a very

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread Michael Canfield
I guess I am totally lost on most of what you are talking about but... If I were stranded on a desert island with but one song to play over and over until I ripped my ears of from insanity Margaritaville would have to be it. Mike On Jul 28, 2011 6:55 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-28 Thread OK Don
Nope - Ludwig for me --- On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: I guess I am totally lost on most of what you are talking about but... If I were stranded on a desert island with but one song to play over and over until I ripped my ears of from

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Fmiser
redghost wrote: This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much as Gump was. Oooh. My dream is a TD turbo, manual transmission, manual heater controls, power windows. I think I'll probably have to build it to actually get one. Meanwhile, the family doesn't

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* Stick an OM606 turbo in a 1992 Vista Cruiser. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2f3a2f.8000...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Ludwig Raymond? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond
be prepared to be mocked. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:52:43 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: CAC35L=t0bxgv1ydoqggrdmxnjned1maaguojzjms6amqdo7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Dieselhead
Go to your state or state university's auctions and buy a 15 pass van. As a bonus, you can use it to haul Amish when you don't use it for the fam. Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 642a0e4e-39de-4d27-88e7-c48dc858f...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes $3500. I have yet to inspect it, but will be doing that in the morning. Need to sell ALL the Gump stuff so

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread astrasfogel
: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:14:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD redghost wrote: This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much as Gump was. Oooh. My dream is a TD

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread astrasfogel
@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD The odds of a device failing increase with every use. I'd forgotten that a failing TO destroys the turbo. If it were a case of the thing just plugging up and you having less power I'd say eh, whatever

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Fmiser
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Both of my US spec 300 TD wagons have rear child seats to take care of up to 3 additional offspring. Feel free to make a preemptive offer. Count again. There are only 2 positions in the third seat. It is bigger than a S123 that I am needing. Buying yours

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell
I assume this was intended somewhat tongue in cheek, but if not, then I suggest you do a bit of research on the subject. There have been several serious accidents with such vehicles. They tend to be unstable. Randy On 27/07/2011 8:02 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Go to your state or state

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Fmiser
Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip On 27/07/2011 8:02 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Go to your state or state university's auctions and buy a 15 pass van. As a bonus, you can use it to haul Amish

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/07/2011 3:25 PM, Fmiser wrote: Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip On 27/07/2011 8:02 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Go to your state or state university's auctions and buy a 15 pass van. As a bonus, you can

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell
Just google search passenger van instability issues and see what comes up. I recall reading news articles about a highschool basketball team that was essentially wiped out when the teacher/coach lost control of one of these vans and it was involved in an accident. Randy On 27/07/2011 3:25

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Fmiser wrote: Hmmm. And if you need seats for more than 8, what other choice is there? Two vehicles? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tox_CDYxYXo/S5PELRn_C4I/A0w/CPVRsdu2pK4/s320/Pickup.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Canfield
Every vehicle can be unstable with a poor driver at the wheel. The vehicle doesn't have issues just because it gets in a wreck. They are no more unstable than any other TRUCK carrying a load. Still just a truck and will never handle like a car. Mike On Jul 27, 2011 4:44 PM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Hertzing
I have literally logged thousands of driving hours in one of these and they are no more unstable then most other trucks or vans, but I think if you look at most of the accidents most were tied to mechanical or tire failure. I have never had a wreck in one - but the next group that took one many

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
If you wear the hockey helmets you'll be OK --R On 7/27/11 3:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I assume this was intended somewhat tongue in cheek, but if not, then I suggest you do a bit of research on the subject. There have been several serious accidents with such vehicles. They tend to be

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Dan Penoff
One of my dream cars if I had the cash and a place to properly garage it would be am early 60's Cadillac 75 Series limo with the divider window. These don't seat 6, but they are a wonderful ride and can be found relatively cheap. Of course, if money were no object then would shift to a late

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Dieselhead
think you are talking about the 15 pass vans.They are particularly unstable when pulling large trailers with the univ solar car inside, driven by inexperienced 20 yr old.drivers http://www.iowastatedaily.com/article_d3947058-eaf8-5180-bbba-2cb37c52a6d1.html I assume this was intended

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Dieselhead
Der Sprinter a mere 50k will get you one, new. Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip On 27/07/2011 8:02 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Go to your state or state university's auctions and buy a

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Randy Bennell
http://www.safetyforum.com/passengervans/ On 27/07/2011 4:27 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: I have literally logged thousands of driving hours in one of these and they are no more unstable then most other trucks or vans, but I think if you look at most of the accidents most were tied to mechanical

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread redghost
Went and drove the thing today. Closer to Fred Flintstone car than a benz. Totally clapped out and would have required parts enough for Rusty to buy a nice bass boat Clay On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Fmiser wrote: redghost wrote: This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong.

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread redghost
you've been dreaming of. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:53:46 -0700 From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 642a0e4e-39de-4d27-88e7-c48dc858f...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Torn vac governor diaphragm from what I can tell. It SEVERLY overfuels, and when you open the butterfly, it starts reving for the moon. Shoe Goo! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Cathey
If you have a 240 piston, I need one! There are four, but attached to a crankshaft in a headless block that's still in the car! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Walt Zarnoch
The tear isn't visible, I'd have to goo the entire thing, which I'd rather not try. Instead, I upgraded to a 3.0 :) Walt On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Torn vac governor diaphragm from what I can tell. It SEVERLY overfuels, and when you open the

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Okay in over 3 years I have not figured it out what does SWMBA stand for? I can't remember if it was originally a reference to Jill Cathey or Clay's wife, but it stands for She Who Must Be Annoyed. (last word is normally Obeyed). I believe it actually applies to both. In my wife's case, at

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Surely you can't be serious --R On 7/25/11 11:17 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:47:53 -0500 Donald Snookdsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: What do you mean ? for the name of the present E320. I think you already have a name - the Snookmobile. That is a great name. It is a name with an

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the aged grandma

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
, July 25, 2011 2:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the aged grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare system

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread astrasfogel
So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. --Original Message-- From: Craig Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Sent: Jul 26, 2011 12:28 AM On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:27:31 -0500

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread G Mann
- From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread astrasfogel
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD 1984 TD that I am going to look at today Clay On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Go for the TD! What year is it? I would think that it would still outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How do the 84 and 85 300 models differ7 '85 has the trap oxidizer. Like yours. When are you going to get it taken off? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread astrasfogel
...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:54:45 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How do the 84 and 85 300 models differ7 '85 has

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:42 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Not gonna happen.  I have the cleanest backup light lenses in all of D.C. There's a reason why there was a recall, and it doesn't just apply to 603 engines. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
Older women appreciate things more than the young. My mistake for trading in and thinking I was trading up. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:42 AM,

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Fmiser
On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Go for the TD! What year is it? I would think that it would still outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine. redghost wrote: 1984 TD that I am going to look at today Clay I wish my '85 were older. I don't like the extra stuff on

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have an old 83 and new 85. The 83 has a 1985 transmission and more zip than the 1985, which probably needs a valve adjustment. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Go for the TD! What year is it? I would

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Randy Bennell
On 26/07/2011 11:42 AM, G Mann wrote: My sympathies to you then, since the early pattern indicates a shortfall of loyalty to old things expect to be sent to the scrap heap as a dotage and replaced with a new pretty model Cars are so much easier than women, if you drive another one and

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel wrote: I have an old 83 and new 85. The 83 has a 1985 transmission and more zip than the 1985, which probably needs a valve adjustment. The '85 has a taller differential ratio, so it will be slower to accelerate if all else is equal. The '85 got a bunch more (mysterious)

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Fred Moir
Curt Ludwig Raymond? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/26/2011 12:42 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. --Original Message-- From: Craig Sent: Jul 26, 2011 12:28 AM On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:27:31 -0500 OK

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Dieselhead
I agree, and I'd prefer a federal 85 over a kollyforica 85 with the football trap, and all the other garbage. On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Go for the TD! What year is it? I would think that it would still outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine. redghost

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Craig
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:42:17 + astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. Ludwig is OK, in fact I started out in classical music listening to his works, but I much prefer J.S. Bach. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:  I don't like the extra stuff on the '85.  Andrew seems to prefer it - but I would rather have the less refined but simpler. Andrew likes the fact that the TO on the '85 keeps his trunklid clean. He doesn't seem to care that

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's been good for 26 years. What are the odds of this happening now? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like the extra stuff on the '85. Andrew seems to prefer it - but

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much as Gump was. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Fmiser wrote:

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
The trap was one of the evil things that led to the POS SDL being killed at okie acres clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 26, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread kevin kraly
So what's the asking price for this Euro gem? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR -Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-26 Thread redghost
- Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:32 PM, kevin kraly wrote: So what's the asking price for this Euro gem? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR -Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Donald Snook
Craig wrote: I do as well. Present:'95 E320 ? 107 kmi '94 E420Oskar 119 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 264 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi What do you

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Randy Bennell
OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon. Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a hobby as much as a means of transport. Randy On

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Get on her butt about a perfectly acceptable hobby of hers? But that could get nasty... Walt On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond
to work. BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour from I90... -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Peter Hertzing
:27:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Randy Bennell
From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID:4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at every

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Hertzing wrote: Okay in over 3 years I have not figured it out what does SWMBA stand for? I can't remember if it was originally a reference to Jill Cathey or Clay's wife, but it stands for She Who Must Be Annoyed. (last word is normally Obeyed). Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread redghost
Her hobby is to torment the boys and men in her life with her pious manner and lack of vices. I am can not think of anything she does that could be called a hobby other than making jam or sweet goodies. Not going to knock her for that. I like the rare sweet treat or well slathered

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread redghost
:27:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread redghost
pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour from I90... -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly buying new clubs etc

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread WILTON
Careful, careful. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread redghost
redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the aged grandma

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Mountain Man
Clay wrote: I was commenting more upon the obamacare fiasco when granny becomes economically unfit for further medical care. Death panels have always existed. I don't need to wait for obamacare - I'll be gone in 6 months, unemployed, uninsured, insulin is tirelessly expensive, I lost all desire

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Rick Knoble
Peter wrote Okay in over 3 years I have not figured it out what does SWMBA stand for? She Who Must Be Adored Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I still don't know why you're putting your family through this. Walt On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Clay wrote: I was commenting more upon the obamacare fiasco when granny becomes economically unfit for further medical care. Death panels have

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Craig
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:47:53 -0500 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: What do you mean ? for the name of the present E320. I think you already have a name - the Snookmobile. That is a great name. It is a name with an illustrious history. You can continue the tradition of the Snookmobile

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread OK Don
Does that mean she considers it to be fugue-ish? On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Shirley says we should call it Sebastian, as in Johann Sebastian ... Craig -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread G Mann
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the aged grandma who you can continue

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread Craig
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:27:31 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Does that mean she considers it to be fugue-ish? On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Shirley says we should call it Sebastian, as in Johann Sebastian ... No, more like toccata-ish or

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-25 Thread kevin kraly
Go for the TD! What year is it? I would think that it would still outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon -Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-24 Thread Curt Raymond
to overheat all the way home. A quart of added coolant in the morning and everything is happy again. Need to spend some time tracking the leak. -Curt Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:33:06 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Jim Cathey
some crazing on top of #1. Crap! That is a CRACK! and there looks to be No way will I be able to swing a rebuild. Just a piston, innit? Got a clutch of them down in the woods... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump. Best to let

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Why not pay Kaleb $250 a ton for a new engine? Walt On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:20 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to redo the cylinder walls.  Did not look much more at the short block for cracks there.  Threw in the

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread redghost
he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the mood to humor my attempts to make Gump run. Figure I just bank this for another day when I have a stupid desire for a car and I can trot out how I finally gave up on Gump and she should now humor me once more. Clay On Jul

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I've got a 2.4 with pump gremlins if that helps you any? Walt On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:36 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: he has no runners that I know of, and SWMBA is no longer in the mood to humor my attempts to make Gump run.  Figure I just bank this for another day when I have

Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Canfield
Clay, Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging out at the bar with the guys tying one on? Seems your hobby could be much, much worse. Some ladies just need to come to realize that. Mike On

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