Well despite curts objections I went to lowes and compared the husky
side by side with that poulan 20. visual inspection the 20 was much
more heavy duty than the 18 I first had. It also seems very similar to
the Husky so I bought the Poulan. i will give it a go and see what happens.
On
+1 for Where's the Diesel chain saws?
Well, the Unimog that the US Army's SEE is based upon
has some attachments, and one is (IIRC) a hydraulic-powered
chain saw that hooks to the Mog. Which is diesel, so there
you go. Gotta be a drag with a couple of hoses running
behind you, though.
-- Jim
On 09/08/2013 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times
warm or cold to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no
times make no difference when it gets to not wanting to start
The primer bulb sucks from a
On 09/08/2013 7:27 PM, Craig wrote:
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:05:39 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
As I was falling and jumping backward off the ladder, I threw the saw
way off the right at about 2 o'clock. As I was getting up, I realized
that the saw was lying across the yard idling
Randy Bennell wrote:
Sounds to me, more like the primer is not sucking the gas up and feeding
it to the carb. If it was, one would think there would be an issue of
flooding rather than a dry spark plug.
The primer sucks the air out of the carb. When there's no air in the carb the
primer
On 10/08/2013 6:20 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:
On my tiller the choke does not seal when closed. Starts only when I squirt
some gas in the intake.
Have you looked to see if it is possible to adjust something so that the
choke plate will close?
I have a similar problem with a couple of small
If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?
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On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On 09/08/2013 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times warm or
cold to
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?
I don't see how.
If the bulb fills with fuel, that pretty much tells you the fuel filter and carb
inlet screen are OK, but there could be other things wrong with the carb.
Mitch.
If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?
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It is 'sposed ta. If it is working right, it will flood the carb.
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If you pump it too much will it flood the carb?
I don't see how.
If the bulb fills with fuel, that pretty much
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.
I don't think so.
Loren does.
If you went here, you'd get the definitive answer:
http://arboristsite.com/chainsaw/
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If you pump it too much will it flood
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok I just wondered if maybe pumping it too much was flooding it.
I don't think so.
Loren does.
If you went here, you'd get the definitive answer:
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On Aug 12, 2013 11:13 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
I think EPA made chokes disappear.
My Husky 445 saw that I bought in 2010 or so and the 3xx-something trimmer
that I bought a week ago both have manual chokes.
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So after calling about 5 different places listed on the poulan site none of
them wanted to mess with it, said they do not do warranty work. I called lowes
and the guy said he was 95% sure they would exchange it if I brought it down
there. I may try that just to see what happens. Long story
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the rope. No
prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first pull. Nice and
responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again, would not start. Took
it back to lowes and I will be damned if they did not swap
On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:12:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the
rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the first
pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it again,
starting the old sled a breeze, especially the
really old ones where the tank is under the engine.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:57:31 -0400
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You should be able to get store credit on returns too if you want to buy
another kind or use the credit to buy other stuff.
--R
On 8/12/13 3:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the rope. No
prime, no choke no nothing it start
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull
the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on
the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to
start it again, would not start. Took it back to lowes and I will be
damned if they did not swap
Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if they
will swap you for a Husquvarna.
Will cost a bit more but you will be happier in the long run.
Randy
On 12/08/2013 2:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull the
On 12/08/2013 2:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to pull
the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran great on the
first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it off, tried to start it
again, would not start. Took it back to lowes
Well they just swaped it out but I have not opened it yet or
anything. I thought about seeing if there was a different brand
up there that would be better.
On 8/12/2013 2:34 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
You should be able to get store credit on returns too if you
want to buy another kind or use
Yes, it has a bulb and a choke.
On 8/12/2013 2:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Ok so as I was loading it up to take it to lowes I decided to
pull the rope. No prime, no choke no nothing it start and ran
great on the first pull. Nice and responsive etc. turned it
off, tried to start it again, would
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing
to pay extra for a better saw. I thought these were made by
Husquvarna though?
On 8/12/2013 2:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Quick - before you put fuel in it etc. - take it back and see if
they will swap you for a Husquvarna.
I have no idea about that but I bought a Husquvarna a couple of years
back and so far am happy with it.
Randy
On 12/08/2013 3:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing to
pay extra for a better saw. I thought these were made by
Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes website, and
no more than I will use the thing, I can't really justify spending
an extra $100 or more to get the same size 18 husky. Looking at
the reviews it seems these can also suffer the hard start. What I
am thinking about though is
Kaleb,
I hope the new saw (Poulan or other) works out. I urge you to use only
fresh gas (to avoid gumming up the carb) and keep the mix mixed (for
longevity). As far as I know, all these 2-cycle carbs are similar (and
fundamentally different from 4-cycle carbs) and bad fuel can harm any of
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Does it have the primer bulb and a choke? If so
. According to Kaleb the price difference isn't all that much either.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:46 -0500
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Mine that start are poulan pro
Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes website, and no
more than I will use the thing, I can't really justify spending an
extra $100 or more to get the same size 18 husky. Looking at the
reviews it seems these can also suffer the hard start. What
From what I have read the bigger 20 may be more Husky than
Poulan, if it makes a different. I am thinking about doing the
sway when I head back to town shortly
On 8/12/2013 5:36 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Mine that start are poulan pro
Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes
It seems to me you have a variable definition for flooded.
To me flooded means theres more gas available than can be handled by
the spark plug. A wet spark plug produces considerably less spark
than a dry one so theres no starting.
It seems you start by using flooded to mean primed but then
Kaleb,
I hope the new saw (Poulan or other) works out. I urge you to use only
fresh gas (to avoid gumming up the carb) and keep the mix mixed (for
longevity). As far as I know, all these 2-cycle carbs are similar (and
fundamentally different from 4-cycle carbs) and bad fuel can harm any of
From what I have read the bigger 20 may be more Husky than Poulan,
if it makes a different. I am thinking about doing the sway when I
head back to town shortly
I have to say that to me the 18 is more usable than the 20 saw.
But then I like small saws. My all time favorite is the 16
. According to Kaleb the price difference isn't all that
much either.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:26:46 -0500
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Taiwan is the best Asian place to buy bicycle parts from. Some of the
best rims and frames are made there, both carbon and aluminum.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (169,xxx mi)
On 8/7/2013 5:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i still like bicycles and advise anyone looking for a
Well I took the new one back and go a gift card. They did not have the 20 so I
will pick one when I am in Tulsa tomorrow at a different lowes that show then
in stock online.
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From what I have read the
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Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes website, and
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Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes website, and
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Husky owns Poulan. So, doing some looking on lowes website, and
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
25-30 years ago Poulan made good saws. I borrowed one when I first
moved into the house, 20 bar, big profile chain, lots of power. Poulan
is now all Wal-Mart quality.
That's too bad. The Poulan we have I bought
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It seems to me you have a variable definition for flooded.
To me flooded means theres more gas available than can be handled by
the spark plug. A wet
.
My Husky is a mid-line Ford, your Poulin is a Yugo...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:15:40 -0500
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that I've found anyway and I've had
the exhaust apart several times.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:50:30 -0500
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.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:25:00 -0500
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Ok
Dieselhead wrote:
I don't know that for sure, so I defer to Mitch's expertise. I can't
say that I ever flooded one, but the rental Huskq... concrete saws that
would not run, they said were flooded after we took them back. But those
have a choke, so I think maybe I got the different types
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I've got that one, it is hard to start too. Gotta hold he throttle open, prime
or pump, pull several times, even when hot
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I thought about that, and I am sure they will, I would be willing to pay
extra for a better saw. I thought these were made by Husquvarna though?
I think the Woodshark and Wild Thing are pretty similar to the bottom end
Huskies like the 235/240. But the Huskies might
So you've got a Poulan Pro 40cc and you're thinking about a PP 50cc?
I'm don't know much about the 40cc, but generally the PPs have been decent
homeowner saws. The 50cc actually seem to have a bit of a following.
I thought you'd bought a $99 Poulan, like a Woodshark.
Curt Raymond wrote:
Wikipedia says Husky bought Poulan but Husky and Jonsered are both owned by Electrolux.
Then Wiki is outdated.
I don't remember details, but the Electrolux thing changed a few years ago.
I think the Outdoor Power Equipment lines got spun off into their own company
about
I had the 42cc or whatever 18 and thinking about the 50cc 20, seems like a
better saw, but curt says husky.
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On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
So you've got a Poulan Pro 40cc and you're thinking about a PP 50cc?
I'm don't know much about
Curt Raymond wrote:
My Husky has an interesting system where the choke is linked to the throttle.
Start the saw with the choke on and it goes right to high idle, blip the
throttle and it settles down.
I had the carb out last year as the fuel hoses had softened and were collapsing
under
Buy this at Lowes and be done with it.
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/455-rancher/
Go to a saw shop and get a real chain (or Baileys). That lawyer mandated,
estrogen induced, feminized, metro-sexual, low kickback chain won't cut butter.
You want to hang drapes, or cut wood?
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I did, plug was dry, I was getting spark when cranked.
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Pull the plug when that happens again and see if it is wet or dry and
check to see if there is spark.
Got to be either flooded, not getting fuel, or not getting spark.
Randy
On 08/08/2013 6:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Oh yea I pulled the cover and squirted a short squirt of either in
I did, plug was dry, I was getting spark when cranked.
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On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
Pull the plug when that happens again and see if it is wet or dry and check
to see if there is spark.
Got to be either flooded, not getting fuel,
On 09/08/2013 2:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I did, plug was dry, I was getting spark when cranked.
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Ok, so we know it is starving for fuel.
Now the question is why?
Fuel pickup in the tank and hose to carb.
Carb is probably also acting as the fuel pump via a diaphram
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times warm or cold
to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no times make no
difference when it gets to not wanting to start
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On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
On
On 09/08/2013 2:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times warm or cold
to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no times make no
difference when it gets to not wanting to start
Now we are getting somewhere.
There is a
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I did, plug was dry, I was getting spark when cranked.
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On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:05 PM
I've had some success with 2 stroke engines with fouled plugs by spraying
the plug with brake cleaner to flush off the oil/carbon..
Then with the plug out and hooked up lay it in contact with the cylinder
head and pull the engine through and watch the spark.. Good hot blue
spark.. likely plug is
drained (or boiled off) it
will not start without choke.
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I did
I was getting a nice blue spark when I did that
On 8/9/2013 3:29 PM, G Mann wrote:
I've had some success with 2 stroke engines with fouled plugs by spraying
the plug with brake cleaner to flush off the oil/carbon..
Then with the plug out and hooked up lay it in contact with the cylinder
head
but if the fuel passages have drained (or boiled off)
it
will not start without choke.
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I was getting a nice blue spark when I did that
On 8/9/2013 3:29 PM, G Mann wrote:
I've had some success with 2 stroke engines with fouled plugs
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes it's new. It does have a primer bulb, it says pump it 6 times warm or cold
to start. I have tried pumping it 6 times, 20 times, no times make no
difference when it gets to not wanting to start
The primer bulb sucks from a carb vent and pumps back to the tank.
If
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:05:39 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
As I was falling and jumping backward off the ladder, I threw the saw
way off the right at about 2 o'clock. As I was getting up, I realized
that the saw was lying across the yard idling perfectly, and continued
to do so
On 07/08/2013 5:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Or take a dremel tool with a thin blade on it and cut a slot in the
end of the adjuster and use a regular screw driver. Works just fine
on my Poulan.
Manfred
Mitch Haley wrote:
Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up.
Found a Zama double D
On 07/08/2013 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran
it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never
started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I
guess and tell them either to fix it
Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the
carb intake.
That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel.
I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting.
Did you check to see if it has spark?
Maybe a new spark plug?
Small engines like this
On my 2-cycle things I squirt in a bunch of carb cleaner to loosen up
the dried gunk (which appears very rapidly) that clogs the jets. The
carb cleaner will usually fire it off but you might need a couple
shots. Sometimes ether but that is probably not good as there is no oil
in there, but it
--R wrote:
...but still have my Schwinn 10spd in the garage I bought in high school,
trading in my Stingray i outgrew, which would be worth a fortune today.
I used to assemble Stingray bikes at the Schwinn shop. And, I still
ride my 1938 rear drop-out New Departure Chicago Schwinn balloon
I got the darn thing started today fished what I needed to clear to close the
gate which was not much cutting at all, turned it off to
Move the logs and could not get to start. Almost started the first attempt then
that was it
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On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Dieselhead
Oh yea I pulled the cover and squirted a short squirt of either in the carb and
it still did not start
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wrote:
On my 2-cycle things I squirt in a bunch of carb cleaner to loosen up the
dried
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Oh yea I pulled the cover and squirted a short squirt of either in the carb and
it still did not start
Might have a weak coil that dies when hot?
Mitch.
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I got the darn thing started today fished what I needed to clear to close
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I'd just get a Stihl. They just work.
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A bit of a different story as I am going to comment on 2 f4 stroke
clones of Honda engines.
One has been amazing. We have it on a wood splitter out at the lake
Aug 2013 16:53:27 -0500
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I think it is called good
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something
American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s.
I think it was on here somebody told a good anecdote where an
American car maker paired up with an Asian one and learned about
strict quality control...
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I think it is called good engineering.
Although, Honda has the odd dud too. I just got off the phone
I tried that. It will act like it wants to start then dies out again.
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
This thing has to be vapor locking.
Next time it dies, take off the fuel cap and put it back on.
Might have
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car
makers didn't learn until well into the '90s.
-Curt
Just about the time they also decided that they could ship it all to Mexico and
China and continue to make 'quality' products.
Richard
made in Japan meant junk.
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Not just good engineering, Quality Control
The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from
the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these
quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is
that US industry then blew off all these quality lessons after the war
On 07/08/2013 12:08 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from
the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these
quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is
that US industry then
Dieselhead wrote:
+1 for Where's the Diesel chain saws?
It's old and underpowered. Comet A or Comet B, or a Jonsered XA.
A couple youtube videos of them.
From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAUjEsgPXJI
From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR3ZOPlRys
--Philip
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
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Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car
makers didn't learn until well into the '90s
Tut tut sir, American cars (which is a mis-nomer but lets stick with
it, I obviously mean the big 3) are of comparable, some would even
say higher, quality to the Asian brands right now. In particular
Honda and Toyota are in a bit of trouble lately. I wonder if maybe
they've gotten bit by the
industry I don't think it will get any better.
Richard
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Tut tut sir, American cars (which
Japan sold a lot of cheap consumer goods; toys, notions, etc; during the
1930s; house slippers with paper soles, for example; such that made in
Japan was synonymous with junk. This continued after WW-2 until Japan set
up an agency that tested export goods and would not issue an export licence
i learned about jap goods in the late 70s. as young people, we mostly got
around by bicycle. our dads maybe or may not have had a car but dads
worked 15 hours a day, so they weren't going to be driving us around. moms
did not drive for the most part. our main mode of personal transportation
The W140 is a very well built car if you can get past the wiring harness and
evaporator. If those are done the car is pretty much bulletproof in my opinion.
Consider that these were near $100k cars in their day and you'll understand the
design and engineering. You can find very nice examples
: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Tut tut sir, American cars (which is a mis-nomer but lets stick with it, I
obviously mean the big 3) are of comparable, some would even say higher,
quality to the Asian brands right now. In particular Honda
On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
for me, japanese good from japanese companies are the best there is,
although i'm developing some very warm feelings towards korea and taiwan as
well.
Correctly so. If you ever shop at Harbor Freight, the quality on any
Or take a dremel tool with a thin blade on it and cut a slot in
the end of the adjuster and use a regular screw driver. Works
just fine on my Poulan.
Manfred
Mitch Haley wrote:
Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up.
Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more than I
You could buy one here
http://www.lilredbarn.net/product-p/530035560.htm
Manfred
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my mower and
asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers. EPA won't let then
sell them
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