Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
The “Real” gas station used to carry 92 octane ethanol free. It seems every time I went to fuel up, the octane dropped a point until now it is only 88 octane. Still not going to put alcohol into the SL. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On July 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) > > We can't get 87 octane no ethanol around here, but we can get 89 octane for > about a dollar a gallon more than 93 octane gasahol. (yes, $4/gallon for > "outdoor power equipment fuel") > I buy six gallons of it in the fall. Whatever doesn't go through the > generator over the winter goes in the mowers in the spring. Main reason I buy > it is that it doesn't oxidize and make varnish in a sealed container. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
our subdivision has homes with shallow depressions running along the road with culverts under the driveways - for storm runoff - common practice when something in the back of a pickup needs unloading is to backup so the open tailgate touches the side of the depression where it starts going uphill toward the house. Most of the time it's a smooth transition from truck to lawn. Had my lawn tractor delivered that way ;-) Larry On 07/24/2018 8:29 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Seriously, there are a few ways to get a drum off a truck (or onto it) Lay the drum down and roll it off a plank that bridges the tailgate to the ground use a barrel sling and a hoist put it on a pallet and use a forklift Get four big dumb swedes to pick it up. Use, or build, a loading dock. Use or build a set of 1 or more steps to take it down a few inches at a time. Stack 2 or 3 pallets and end over end it onto the pallets, then onto the ground (or vice versa) Having grown up with wood barrels and steel drums, I have used all sorts of methods to move em. Yesterday I loaded and unloaded a 165 lb propane tank. That is easier than a 30 gal. barrel/drum. Just about anyone can handle a 30 gal barrel once they know how to do it. A 55 gallon takes a real man to lay it over or stand it up without damage. tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: How do you get it off of the tailgate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Curley, I'll buy the pump. How do you want to be paid? What is the inlet/outlet pipe size? [doesn't matter, I'll take it regardless.] Grant On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things. I have a new > one I'd sell for $75. It is all plastic > > > > OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like >> you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . >> I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that >> handle 5 times per gallon. >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I'll take it... What is the outlet size? Where and how do you want to be paid? Grant... On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things. I have a new > one I'd sell for $75. It is all plastic > > > > OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like >> you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . >> I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that >> handle 5 times per gallon. >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Actually, the US went Metric long before there was an SAE system. Ask Model T owners about wrenches, for instance. The US Army went metric in 1911 when the system was officially adopted. The Navy stayed inch based for a very long time even though there wasn't much of a Navy in 1911. SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) standards date from the 1920s when auto manufacturers needed suppliers for standardized parts like rear axles, wheels, transmissions, and so forth. Before that they all made their own, and "standards" varied quite a bit. Ball and roller bearings have always been metric. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
No, you are the only holdouts.Canada switched to metric in 1970.I am just old enough to convert metric backwards to feet and gallons.My children think in metric.RB Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes Date: 2018-07-24 7:48 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader Imperial gallon = 160 FL oz. = 5 US quarts US gallon = 128 Fl Oz. = 4 US Quarts Every where else but CA and US has litters of liters. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > > . . . and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere. > > RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Imperial gallon = 160 FL oz. = 5 US quarts US gallon = 128 Fl Oz. = 4 US Quarts Every where else but CA and US has litters of liters. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: . . . and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I used air operated diaphragm pumps in for lots of things. I have a new one I'd sell for $75. It is all plastic OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that handle 5 times per gallon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Seriously, there are a few ways to get a drum off a truck (or onto it) Lay the drum down and roll it off a plank that bridges the tailgate to the ground use a barrel sling and a hoist put it on a pallet and use a forklift Get four big dumb swedes to pick it up. Use, or build, a loading dock. Use or build a set of 1 or more steps to take it down a few inches at a time. Stack 2 or 3 pallets and end over end it onto the pallets, then onto the ground (or vice versa) Having grown up with wood barrels and steel drums, I have used all sorts of methods to move em. Yesterday I loaded and unloaded a 165 lb propane tank. That is easier than a 30 gal. barrel/drum. Just about anyone can handle a 30 gal barrel once they know how to do it. A 55 gallon takes a real man to lay it over or stand it up without damage. tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: How do you get it off of the tailgate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kick! tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: How do you get it off of the tailgate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
On 24/07/2018 12:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Gallon weight: Jet A / JP5 = 6.8 lbs per gallon AV Gas . = 6.6 lbs per gallon Fresh water = 8.34 lbs per gallon Sea water ...= 8.57 lbs per gallon [based on a calculated average of salt density] . . . and only in the USA. Gallons tend to be bigger elsewhere. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
The nice thing about 8#/gal is that you never estimate low and you can use the old "A pint is a pound the world around." -Curt On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 7:28:28 AM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Looks like my memory of flight training, (geez, has it been 40 years already?), is the fuzzy part - time really does fly. You are 100% correct - bravo to your memory! Not fuzzy at all... LarryT On 07/23/2018 11:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to >> estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which >> is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to >> distribute the weight can't hurt --- >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> Larry > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Yes - fuel is 6 lb/gal, oil is 7 lb/gal, and water is 8 lb/gal. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to > estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which > is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to > distribute the weight can't hurt --- > > Am I missing something? > > Larry > > > > On 07/23/2018 9:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane >> - >> use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the >> Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between >> mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) >>> >>> As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my >>> trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will >>> be >>> with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a >>> barrel >>> cart, at ground level... >>> >>> Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 >>> minutes >>> using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the >>> barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel >>> using >>> that same system. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> How do you get it off of the tailgate? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >>>> Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >>>> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < >>>> g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader >>>> I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but >>>> only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the >>>> weight load. >>>> It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute >>>> >>> the >>> >>>> load beyond the rim of the barrel. >>>> >>>> With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much >>>> >>> wider >>> >>>> area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides >>>> across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. >>>> >>>> I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Has anyone seen one of these in action? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html >>>>> >>>>> Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed >>>>> >>>> onto >>>> >>>>> the tailgate? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> OK Don >>>>> >>>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many >>>>> >>>> of >>>> >>>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain >>>>> >>>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few >>>>> >>>> who >>>> >>>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric >>>>> >>>> fence >>> >>>> for themselves." >>>>> >>>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >>>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>>>> ___ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>&
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Looks like my memory of flight training, (geez, has it been 40 years already?), is the fuzzy part - time really does fly. You are 100% correct - bravo to your memory! Not fuzzy at all... LarryT On 07/23/2018 11:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy --FT Sent from iPhone On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the weight can't hurt --- Am I missing something? Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I would get a $40 drum dolly from Northern Tool (HF doesn't have them) and put a couple of eye bolts in a corner(s) of the sides/ends of the bed to keep it from rolling around when driving. This is not a suggestion and may be more dangerous than having the barrel flat on the bed of the pickup truck. Your experience may be different than mine. https://www.google.com/search?q=northern+tool+drum+dollies=utf-8=utf-8=firefox-b-1-ab or Google "Northern Tool drum dollies" Gerry - OK Don wrote: > Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting > a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the > barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out > from under the shell. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > > weight load. > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > onto > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > > of > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > > for themselves." > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Gallon weight: Jet A / JP5 = 6.8 lbs per gallon AV Gas . = 6.6 lbs per gallon Fresh water = 8.34 lbs per gallon Sea water ...= 8.57 lbs per gallon [based on a calculated average of salt density] On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to > estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which > is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to > distribute the weight can't hurt --- > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Larry > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate > the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way > under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the > weight can't hurt --- > > Am I missing something? > > Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I haven't used one but it has always impressed me as being unusable in the real world because of too much friction and not enough strength of materials. My inclination for drum handling would be https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200673817_200673817 in conjunction with something like this https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200672545_200672545 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone seen one of these in action? https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto the tailgate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the weight can't hurt --- Am I missing something? Larry On 07/23/2018 9:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel cart, at ground level... Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using that same system. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How do you get it off of the tailgate? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Has anyone seen one of these in action? https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto the tailgate? -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I had several during the Biodiesel manufacturing plant days, Kept a couple. They are quite "spendy" As I recall, the 2" models I kept were in the $3,500 range.. Great pumps, however. If you use Viton diaphargms and component parts they will pump hazmat chemicals, water, oil, fuel, mud doesn't seem to matter. IMHO.. well worth the investment in a commercial use.. way over priced for "personal use"... hahah... On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like > you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . > I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that > handle 5 times per gallon. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as > well... > > just not as fast. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > > airplane - > > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of > the > > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference > between > > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > > my > > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it > will > > > be > > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > > barrel > > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > > minutes > > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > > the > > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > > using > > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > > but > > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area > vs > > > the > > > > > weight load. > > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > > distribute > > > > the > > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a > much > > > > wider > > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > > slides > > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader- > 60800.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > > bed > > > > > onto > > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > &g
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
> On July 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) We can't get 87 octane no ethanol around here, but we can get 89 octane for about a dollar a gallon more than 93 octane gasahol. (yes, $4/gallon for "outdoor power equipment fuel") I buy six gallons of it in the fall. Whatever doesn't go through the generator over the winter goes in the mowers in the spring. Main reason I buy it is that it doesn't oxidize and make varnish in a sealed container. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that handle 5 times per gallon. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... > just not as fast. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > airplane - > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > my > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > > be > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > barrel > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > minutes > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > the > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > using > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > but > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > > the > > > > weight load. > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > distribute > > > the > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > > wider > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > slides > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > bed > > > > onto > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > > many > > > > of > > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > > few > > > > who > > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > > fence > > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Yup - the hand pump double action is what I have - - On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... > just not as fast. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > airplane - > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > my > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > > be > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > barrel > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > minutes > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > the > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > using > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > but > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > > the > > > > weight load. > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > distribute > > > the > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > > wider > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > slides > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > bed > > > > onto > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > > many > > > > of > > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > > few > > > > who > > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > > fence > > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/m
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I have one chain wrapped around the barrel under the top rib, with three shorter chains going up where they meet at one of those triangle screw together chain fittings things. They are long enough to slip close to an outside edge, which gives clearance for the pump (with filter) to un-screw for filling. The belly chain is tensioned with a bolt - it hasn't shown any signs of slipping so far (5 years) - knocking on wood. Yes, dropping and splitting a barrel with 55 gallons of gasoline in the hangar would be a bad day . . . On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Having lifted 55 gallon barrels with an engine hoist, I will offer this > advise. > > BE CAREFUL. barrels are tough to grab hold of, and chains slip... Best > effect I've had is using 2 inch nylon wide lifting slings, using them as > "chokers". > > Best result moving barrels is with a fork lift. If you have access to one, > use it. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm > putting > > a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the > > barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out > > from under the shell. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > wrote: > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > the > > > weight load. > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > > the > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > wider > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > > onto > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > many > > > of > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > few > > > who > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > fence > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change deliv
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... just not as fast. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > be > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > barrel > > cart, at ground level... > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > minutes > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > using > > that same system. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > wrote: > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > Original message ----From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > the > > > weight load. > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > > the > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > wider > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > > onto > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > many > > > of > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > few > > > who > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > fence > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > &
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Having lifted 55 gallon barrels with an engine hoist, I will offer this advise. BE CAREFUL. barrels are tough to grab hold of, and chains slip... Best effect I've had is using 2 inch nylon wide lifting slings, using them as "chokers". Best result moving barrels is with a fork lift. If you have access to one, use it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting > a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the > barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out > from under the shell. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > > weight load. > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > the > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > wider > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > onto > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > > of > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence > > > for themselves." > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel > cart, at ground level... > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using > that same system. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > > weight load. > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > the > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > wider > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > onto > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > > of > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence > > > for themselves." > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out from under the shell. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
That's what I was wondering about. If I buy one, I'll put plywood under the barrel. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? Keep cranking and have a mattress on the ground? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel cart, at ground level... Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using that same system. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
How do you get it off of the tailgate? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto > the tailgate? > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto > the tailgate? > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
