Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ob Rentfro via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Bob Rentfro <azbob...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition Crap. Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 6:11 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes&

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Joel Cairo via Mercedes
So, assuming this would actually work, what would be necessary to run it? I recall some discussion of a very specific laptop model for reasons I never was clear about. http://www.mbstarshop.com/service/mercedes-xentry-das-201512-torrent-free-download-10132.html ??? --JC On 6/14/16 3:11

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
maybe On 6/14/2016 1:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: So what I'm reading is my indy can hook it up and be able to determine if it's the coil in yhe ignition, the key, or the DAS? Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 11:43 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yes

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I can't comment on your car specifically, as I'm not familiar with the capabilities of the Xentry system relative to your model, but I would expect that any stored faults will show up, and in doing so, will point at the source of the issue. The Xentry system does a good job of getting into the

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So what I'm reading is my indy can hook it up and be able to determine if it's the coil in yhe ignition, the key, or the DAS? Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 11:43 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Bob

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is that the fancy laptop that my indy hooks up to my cars? > > Bob R > On Jun 14, 2016 11:29 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Is the

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup. > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is that the fancy laptop that my indy hooks up to my cars? > > Bob R > On Jun 14, 2016 11:29 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Is the Xentry system (or

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Boatloads of them, all Chinee knockoffs, readily available. You can get complete systems with a laptop for $500-$600, and with just a USB hard drive and the cables and mux for around $300, I think. You can't do squat on later model cars without one. Dan > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Meade

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Is that the fancy laptop that my indy hooks up to my cars? Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 11:29 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Is the Xentry system (or something equivalent) available for Bob to > purchase? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Is the Xentry system (or something equivalent) available for Bob to purchase? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And the process begins... The draining of the wallet. > > So how do they troubleshoot the

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
ls the aftermarket figures out a way to defeat it. If > >> you buy a tune for your car the immobilizer defeat is usually thrown in > for > >> free. Since the TDI engines get transplanted into a lot of things > defeating > >> the electronic nannys is kind of important. &g

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
igures out a way to defeat it. If >> you buy a tune for your car the immobilizer defeat is usually thrown in for >> free. Since the TDI engines get transplanted into a lot of things defeating >> the electronic nannys is kind of important. >>> -Curt >>> >>>

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
g > the electronic nannys is kind of important. > > -Curt > > > > From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Bob Rentfro <azbob...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Tuesd

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
+1 > On Jun 14, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Good luck with that > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So there IS a way out for Bob: "go to the

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Good luck with that Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > So there IS a way out for Bob: "go to the knackers and get all of the > modules out of one car so they're matched." > >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > Again, roll out the W123/W126 and earlier. Maybe the W124s, too. Nothing you > can't get around in these Oilfield Dodge, also. thanks to Grant http://www.tvraaca.org/oilfielddodge1920i.htm mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Now you're singin' my song! I had to take in the dogde van in for a recall to replace the fobik. I figgered that was a cheep way to get a couple new fobik "keys" The new fobik screwed up several other things. So while I got "keys" with 0 on the counters, there were tradeoffs that were

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
do these fobik systems have a real ignition switch behind them like a key switch? If so, you could chop (dremel) off the fobik stuff and maybe turn the switch with a screwdriver like on a 124. (after you take out the lock) Bob Rentfro via Mercedes June 14,

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
a Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Bob Rentfro <azbob...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition > > Crap. > > Bob R > On Jun 14, 2016 6:11 AM, "Dan P

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
There has to be a wiring diagram around somewhere. I am sure in LA or dallas and probably in phoenix there are illegals who know how to beat the system. How else can they steal cars? Bob Rentfro via Mercedes June 14, 2016 at 9:31 AMvia Postbox

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I reckon I better get diggin'. Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 7:46 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > I believe so, yes. I just know that this was the available approaches for > the W220 with similar issues. > > If he digs around in the BenzWorld forum for this model he

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe so, yes. I just know that this was the available approaches for the W220 with similar issues. If he digs around in the BenzWorld forum for this model he should be able to identify his options. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
the electronic nannys is kind of important. -Curt From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Bob Rentfro <azbob...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition C

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
So there IS a way out for Bob: "go to the knackers and get all of the modules out of one car so they're matched." Dan Penoff via Mercedes June 14, 2016 at 9:29 AMvia Postbox Nope. The

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Again, crap. Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 7:29 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Nope. The DAS system incorporates the operation of a bunch of different > modules in the car, including the engine, transmission and security, if I > recall. There are three or four involved

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nope. The DAS system incorporates the operation of a bunch of different modules in the car, including the engine, transmission and security, if I recall. There are three or four involved with this, so if one craps out ou have to buy a new one and have the $tealer install and code it, or go to

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Nope Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> June 13, 2016 at 10:50 PMvia Postbox >>

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes June 13, 2016 at 10:50 PMvia Postbox Drive authorization system. Computers have to be replaced and recoded by the dealer. Great idea! Lets replace a

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Maybe I need to come to az Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 8:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Crap. > > Bob R > On Jun 14, 2016 6:11 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> One of the reasons I bailed from my W220. If

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Crap. Bob R On Jun 14, 2016 6:11 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > One of the reasons I bailed from my W220. If any part of the DAS fails, > you're pretty much screwed, as the fix requires replacing everything in the > system unless you have access to a Xentry

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
One of the reasons I bailed from my W220. If any part of the DAS fails, you're pretty much screwed, as the fix requires replacing everything in the system unless you have access to a Xentry system, and in some cases not even that. Pretty much a $tealership only repair. Gawd I love my W126

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Probably so Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 13, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well that sounds expensive > On Jun 13, 2016 8:50 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Drive authorization system. Computers

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-13 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Well that sounds expensive On Jun 13, 2016 8:50 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Drive authorization system. Computers have to be replaced and recoded by > the dealer. > > On 6/13/2016 10:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > >> DAS? Please do some

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Drive authorization system. Computers have to be replaced and recoded by the dealer. On 6/13/2016 10:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: DAS? Please do some 'splainin' cause, remember, I've never messed with anything newer than a W123. Bob R On Jun 13, 2016 8:45 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-13 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
DAS? Please do some 'splainin' cause, remember, I've never messed with anything newer than a W123. Bob R On Jun 13, 2016 8:45 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The DAS is going bad > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 13, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via

Re: [MBZ] W210 Ignition

2016-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The DAS is going bad Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 13, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > On my 98 E300, once in a while, after the glow light goes out and I turn > the fob, no think happens. I then reperform the sequence and she starts. > Tonight it