Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Perhaps more info than you want, but this is a decent write-up on lead/acid
batteries followed by another one a chargers:

A look at the differences between auto and aircraft batteries, plus some
tips on maintenance.
Bob Fritz - May 20, 2009

The engine wont start, or it turns slowly. But your battery is only two
years old, and it was expensive! Dang it…the thing should work, and you
should be flying right now.

You’ve been there, done that and cursed the battery. Sometime during the
process of pulling the old one out and installing a new one, you probably
toyed with the idea of going to an auto-supply store and buying a cheap
battery; its only used for starting and you could hand-prop the plane, so
why incur the expense? How different could they be?

With that as my premise, I went off to the battery manufacturers with a few
basic questions: Are airplane batteries different from automobile
batteries? If not, why the higher cost? If so, then how are they different,
and do they require different maintenance? The short answers: Yes, airplane
batteries are different; and, yes, they require different maintenance.
Into the Way-back Machine

First, let’s review the nature of the beast. Although Ben Franklin coined
the term, and the first battery was built before 250 BCE, in Baghdad, the
first practical battery was invented in 1859 by French physicist Gaston
Plant. Today there are several variations on it with techno-names such as
recombinant gas and absorbed glass mat, but at their heart, they’re still
based on Plants idea.

Our friend Plant was fiddling around in the lab with lead, which seemed to
be very resistant to the effects of acid. He discovered that, though the
lead wasn’t eaten away as were most other metals when dunked in acid, the
combination did generate a voltage. More significantly, he discovered that
this battery could be discharged and then re-charged. But he was stuck at
2.2 volts per circuit. It didn’t matter if the lead plate had more surface
area or a greater thickness; it was 2.2 volts per plate. We’re still there.

Raising the voltage was easily done; just add more plates and connect the
positive lead on plate #1 to the negative lead of plate #2. Connect the
voltmeter to the remaining poles, and you see 4.4 volts. Put six sets of
plates together in this fashion, and you get 13.2 volts.

My expert on the subject of batteries, Skip Koss, at Concorde, laughed when
I asked why its called a 12-volt battery if its really 13.2 volts. Ive no
idea, he said. Tradition! I got a call from a guy wanting to know what was
wrong with his battery; it was down to 11.5 volts and wouldn’t start the
airplane. I had to tell him it was a dead battery, but I couldn’t convince
him that the numbers don’t really tell the story.

Before going further, lets define a few terms and offer a couple of
analogies:

Voltage (V) is the potential to do work; think of it as water pressure,
measured in PSI.

Current (amps) indicates how many electrons are flowing through a
conductor, measured in Amp-hour (Ah). Multiply amps times hours and you get
amp-hour. Think of this as gallons per hour such as in a large river.

Power (watts) is amps multiplied by volts, measured in gallons per hour at
some psi. A large, fast-flowing pipe filled with water under pressure.

Watt-hours. All of the above multiplied give you the equivalent of gallons
per hour for a number of hours. Visualize a large fast-flowing river able
to flow for a lot of hours.

Its about as obvious as a thumb tack on a church pew that rating a battery
in amp-hours is not the best measure of the battery; watt-hours would be
ideal, but the industry is stuck with Ah. Maybe thats short for Ah, well.
Trade-offs and Compromises

Plant also discovered that with plates having a greater surface area, he
got more power (amperage) to turn heavy loads; with thicker plates, he got
a longer discharge time. Think of the plate as a sponge for electrons; with
a lot of surface area the electrons are on the surface; a thick sponge has
them deeper in.

The other trade-off is in the system voltage. If you have a 1200-watt
device, you need a combination of voltage multiplied by amperage: W = V x
A. But as amperage goes up, the wiring gets hot. 12 volts x 100 amps = 1200
watts, and that will definitely heat the wiring. Ever notice how hot jumper
cables get?

But if you raise the voltage, you can lower the amperage: 24 volts x 50
amps = 1200 watts. Now you can use smaller gauge wiring. The only problem
is that 24-volt devices are more expensive.

Think on that for a minute, and you’ll see that these factors can be traded
around according to the requirement. A large airplane needs to have a
deep-discharge capacity to run flaps, avionics and landing gear in case the
generating system quits. That means a 24-volt system (or more) and a
battery with thick plates for deep discharge. (Remember that how its wired
internally, not plate geometry, determines the voltage.) Every pound and
dollar counts 

Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

There's a lot of thermal mass in a battery.  Could still be warm from
the charging, plus slight heating from the draw-down.

What is 'tests good'?  That covers a lot of ground, all the way from
"has two terminals and isn't gushing through a hole in the side", to
brand new.

There are six cells, any one of which could be sub-optimal and thus
rendering the battery _not_ good.  Increased series resistance; reduced
plate capacity, due to erosion or a break in the plate structure; electrical 
leakage;
poisoned cell chemistry...

'Tests good'?  All of those, and more, times six...

To test a battery thoroughly requires access to the individual cell terminals,
and the electrolyte, of each of the six cells.  And even that won't tell you 
much
about electrical leakage, though you can infer that from reduced voltage and
capacity when compared to other, known good, cells, starting from a known
state of charge.

In most cases, 'tests good' is about as reliable as "idiot light is not on."
My wife's SL's battery 'tested good', meaning started the car without problems,
until the time it exploded when she hit the key!

A _thorough_ test for most consumer goods probably costs more than just
purchasing a new whatsis.  Only done in laboratories, usually in-house at
the manufacturers'.  The rest of the time we just rely on quick/cheap litmus
tests.  If it 'tests' good, but is still acting up, we just replace it and move 
on.

Run your weak battery flat.  Maybe several times.  If there's a weak cell the
rest of the battery will attempt to reverse-charge it once the terminal voltage
goes below 10V.  That'll do it in in short order, car batteries don't have 
internal
BMS for self-protection like laptop batteries do.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So had the battery on the charger all night and came out to the shop this 
morning and it’s only at 80% charged. Was warm to the touch, more so than 
normal with a battery on a charger I would think. Still tests good. Hooked it 
up to a car and left head lights on all afternoon. It’s down to 12.17 right now 
and with it just powering the lights battery is slightly warm. Should it be 
warm at all? Will leave lights on all night and see how it tests tomorrow. Will 
charge it up and repeat until I can get it to test bad, then will take it back 
to Walmart. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on the 
>> shelf but tests good?
> 
> An internal current leak.  You can only prove those exist indirectly.
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I've not had a problem with NAPA batteries but I will say that in my experience 
they cannot be relied upon to test them.

I had a Volvo-branded battery in my XC90 that would seem to discharge rapidly, 
often overnight.

Drove it to NAPA, they tested it, and said it looked good. When I tried to 
start the car to leave, it would not start. They gave me a jump with a booster 
pack, and suggested I get it tested at a battery shop. I drove over to 
Interstate and they tested it, it was bad, and I bought a new battery there. No 
problems since.



On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, at 7:31 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> I had  a NAPA house brand and the damned thing would go dead overnight.  I
> would jump  it, take it to NAPA, they'd say it's fine.  The drive over was
> enough to charge it enough to make it look fine.  Finally had it die on the
> road.   AAA driver said it was NFG.  Went over to Walleyworld and got a new
> one.  No problems to date.
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 8:21 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> You get what you pay for.
>>
>> I used to buy Interstate and never had any problem getting the rated life
>> out of them.
>>
>> Lately I've been buying NAPA's house brand and had good luck with them so
>> far.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
>> >
>> > This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not
>> > sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most
>> > likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I
>> > bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.
>> > I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a
>> > month or so.
>> >
>> > On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> >> I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto
>> >> parts stores like Advance or a local one.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
>> >> it replaced.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > 
>> >> > stay away from Walmart
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
>> >> 30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
>> >> back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
>> >> I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
>> >> the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
>> >> exchange it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So no charge?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --FT
>> >> >> > Sent from iFōn
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
>> >> hour
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
>> >> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --FT
>> >> >> >>> Sent from iFōn
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
>> >> reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
>> >> it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
>> >> 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
>> >> after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
>> >> good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
>> >> complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an
>> hour.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>  Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on the 
> shelf but tests good?

An internal current leak.  You can only prove those exist indirectly.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Todd from Project Farm did some battery testing a while back. 
https://youtu.be/h7rTcBanpMk


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

BUT, how much time have you wasted on this battery? Your time is worth 
something.


Randy


On 29/04/2022 8:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.

This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not 
sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most 
likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I 
bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it 
replaced.  I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and 
try again in a month or so.


On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto 
parts stores like Advance or a local one.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


    I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
    it replaced.

    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
     wrote:
    >
    > 
    > stay away from Walmart
    >
    >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
     wrote:
    >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
    30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
    back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
    I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
    the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
    exchange it?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Sent from my iPhone
    >>
    >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
     wrote:
    >> >
    >> > So no charge?
    >> >
    >> > --FT
    >> > Sent from iFōn
    >> >
    >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
     wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
    hour
    >> >>
    >> >> Sent from my iPhone
    >> >>
    >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
    Mercedes  wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
    >> >>>
    >> >>> --FT
    >> >>> Sent from iFōn
    >> >>>
    >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
     wrote:
    >> 
    >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
    reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
    it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
    12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
    after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
    good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
    complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an 
hour.

    >> 
    >>  Sent from my iPhone
    >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I had  a NAPA house brand and the damned thing would go dead overnight.  I
would jump  it, take it to NAPA, they'd say it's fine.  The drive over was
enough to charge it enough to make it look fine.  Finally had it die on the
road.   AAA driver said it was NFG.  Went over to Walleyworld and got a new
one.  No problems to date.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 8:21 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You get what you pay for.
>
> I used to buy Interstate and never had any problem getting the rated life
> out of them.
>
> Lately I've been buying NAPA's house brand and had good luck with them so
> far.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
> >
> > This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not
> > sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most
> > likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I
> > bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.
> > I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a
> > month or so.
> >
> > On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >> I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto
> >> parts stores like Advance or a local one.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
> >> it replaced.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > stay away from Walmart
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
> >> 30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
> >> back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
> >> I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
> >> the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
> >> exchange it?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So no charge?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --FT
> >> >> > Sent from iFōn
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
> >> hour
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> >>
> >> >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --FT
> >> >> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
> >> reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
> >> it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
> >> 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
> >> after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
> >> good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
> >> complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an
> hour.
> >> >> 
> >> >>  Sent from my iPhone
> >> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I agree, maybe the price was low but if it fails that's wasted money.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles via 
Mercedes wrote:   well my view on Wal-Mart is not 
mainstream but from my grandmother- penny
wise & pound foolish..  I go to Wal-Mart once a year to buy my Mobil 1

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 9:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
>
> This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not
> sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most
> likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I
> bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.
> I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a
> month or so.
>
> On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto
> > parts stores like Advance or a local one.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >    I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
> >    it replaced.
> >
> >    Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >    > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
> >     wrote:
> >    >
> >    > 
> >    > stay away from Walmart
> >    >
> >    >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >     wrote:
> >    >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
> >    30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
> >    back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
> >    I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
> >    the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
> >    exchange it?
> >    >>
> >    >>
> >    >>
> >    >>
> >    >> Sent from my iPhone
> >    >>
> >    >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >     wrote:
> >    >> >
> >    >> > So no charge?
> >    >> >
> >    >> > --FT
> >    >> > Sent from iFōn
> >    >> >
> >    >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >     wrote:
> >    >> >>
> >    >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
> >    hour
> >    >> >>
> >    >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >    >> >>
> >    >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> >    Mercedes  wrote:
> >    >> >>>
> >    >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> >    >> >>>
> >    >> >>> --FT
> >    >> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >    >> >>>
> >    >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >     wrote:
> >    >> 
> >    >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
> >    reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
> >    it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
> >    12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
> >    after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
> >    good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
> >    complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour.
> >    >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes I had Advance replace a battery for me no charge

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 9:23 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve used Advance Auto’s batteries for some years, and only had one
> instance when one failed prematurely. I would add that it was replaced
> outright at no cost, as I think it was within the first two years.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You get what you pay for.
> >
> > I used to buy Interstate and never had any problem getting the rated
> life out of them.
> >
> > Lately I've been buying NAPA's house brand and had good luck with them
> so far.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
> >>
> >> This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not
> >> sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most
> >> likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I
> >> bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it
> replaced.
> >> I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in
> a
> >> month or so.
> >>
> >> On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >>> I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto
> >>> parts stores like Advance or a local one.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
> >>>it replaced.
> >>>
> >>>Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  
>  stay away from Walmart
> 
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>> wrote:
> > So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
> >>>30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
> >>>back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
> >>>I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
> >>>the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
> >>>exchange it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >> So no charge?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
> >>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
> >>>hour
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> >>>Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>  Will they charge you for it?
> 
>  --FT
>  Sent from iFōn
> 
> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>> wrote:
> >
> > You all might remember the battery I have that will never
> >>>reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
> >>>it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
> >>>12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
> >>>after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
> >>>good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
> >>>complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an
> hour.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Went to do a periodic maintenance charge on my AA AGM battery one day 
last summer, and it was wet around the negative terminal.
Cleaned it up with a paper towel, charged it, and it corroded my 
negative battery clip on the charger.
Since then, it just keeps puking acid. A sealed battery that I paid 
extra so I could put it in a W140 or W210 without any acid fumes. Never 
been installed in a car. But the warranty expired before it started 
puking, so I paid something like $150 for a battery that will never see 
a car.


On 2022-04-29 21:22, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve used Advance Auto’s batteries for some years, and only had one
instance when one failed prematurely. I would add that it was replaced
outright at no cost, as I think it was within the first two years.




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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

well my view on Wal-Mart is not mainstream but from my grandmother- penny
wise & pound foolish..  I go to Wal-Mart once a year to buy my Mobil 1

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 9:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
>
> This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not
> sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most
> likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I
> bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.
> I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a
> month or so.
>
> On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto
> > parts stores like Advance or a local one.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
> > it replaced.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > stay away from Walmart
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
> > 30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
> > back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
> > I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
> > the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
> > exchange it?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > So no charge?
> > >> >
> > >> > --FT
> > >> > Sent from iFōn
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
> > hour
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >>
> > >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --FT
> > >> >>> Sent from iFōn
> > >> >>>
> > >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
> > reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
> > it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
> > 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
> > after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
> > good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
> > complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour.
> > >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’ve used Advance Auto’s batteries for some years, and only had one instance 
when one failed prematurely. I would add that it was replaced outright at no 
cost, as I think it was within the first two years.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You get what you pay for.
> 
> I used to buy Interstate and never had any problem getting the rated life out 
> of them.
> 
> Lately I've been buying NAPA's house brand and had good luck with them so far.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
>> 
>> This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not 
>> sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most 
>> likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I 
>> bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.  
>> I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a 
>> month or so.
>> 
>> On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto 
>>> parts stores like Advance or a local one.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
>>>it replaced.
>>> 
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
>>> wrote:
 
 
 stay away from Walmart
 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
>>>30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
>>>back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
>>>I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
>>>the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
>>>exchange it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> So no charge?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
>>>hour
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
>>>Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Will they charge you for it?
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
> 
> You all might remember the battery I have that will never
>>>reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
>>>it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
>>>12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
>>>after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
>>>good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
>>>complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You get what you pay for.

I used to buy Interstate and never had any problem getting the rated life out 
of them.

Lately I've been buying NAPA's house brand and had good luck with them so far.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.
>
> This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not 
> sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most 
> likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I 
> bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.  
> I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a 
> month or so.
>
> On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto 
>> parts stores like Advance or a local one.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
>> it replaced.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> > stay away from Walmart
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
>> 30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
>> back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
>> I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
>> the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
>> exchange it?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > So no charge?
>> >> >
>> >> > --FT
>> >> > Sent from iFōn
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
>> hour
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>
>> >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --FT
>> >> >>> Sent from iFōn
>> >> >>>
>> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
>> reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
>> it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
>> 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
>> after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
>> good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
>> complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour.
>> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, but it should not discharge to 12.1 or so volts after a couple of 
weeks, I would not think.


On 4/29/2022 8:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

A lot of variables there. I’m not sure I would agree. I expect it would 
discharge, the question would be how quickly?

-D


On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

This electronic tester shows the internal resistance and it shows to be fine.  
A fully charged battery should be able to sit on the shelf for quite a while 
without discharging I would think.

On 4/29/2022 7:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

High internal resistance?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on
the shelf but tests good?

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

A lot of variables there. I’m not sure I would agree. I expect it would 
discharge, the question would be how quickly?

-D

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 9:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This electronic tester shows the internal resistance and it shows to be fine. 
>  A fully charged battery should be able to sit on the shelf for quite a while 
> without discharging I would think.
> 
> On 4/29/2022 7:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> High internal resistance?
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on
>>> the shelf but tests good?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
 
 Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This electronic tester shows the internal resistance and it shows to be 
fine.  A fully charged battery should be able to sit on the shelf for 
quite a while without discharging I would think.


On 4/29/2022 7:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

High internal resistance?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on
the shelf but tests good?

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Walmart seems to be the cheapest place to get batteries these days.

This battery was in a car I bought but went completely dead.  I am not 
sure if it went completely dead because it was discharging but most 
likely because it was sitting in the car too long not started after I 
bought it.  Its still under warranty so I am trying to get it replaced.  
I guess I am just going to have to kill it completely and try again in a 
month or so.


On 4/29/2022 7:55 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto 
parts stores like Advance or a local one.


On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get
it replaced.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles
 wrote:
>
> 
> stay away from Walmart
>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:
>> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after
30 minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it
back home and put it back on the charger but as soon as removed
I’m sure it will be discharged within a couple of week. What is
the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests bad and they
exchange it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:
>> >
>> > So no charge?
>> >
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iFōn
>> >
>> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an
hour
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
Mercedes  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Will they charge you for it?
>> >>>
>> >>> --FT
>> >>> Sent from iFōn
>> >>>
>> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:
>> 
>>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never
reach full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With
it removed from charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about
12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf
after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. Their machine tests it
good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever gets to
complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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High internal resistance?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on
> the shelf but tests good?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> >
> > Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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I am talking in general. I have had good battery success with auto parts
stores like Advance or a local one.

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 8:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get it
> replaced.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > stay away from Walmart
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30
> minutes. Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and
> put it back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be
> discharged within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin
> this battery so it tests bad and they exchange it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So no charge?
> >> >
> >> > --FT
> >> > Sent from iFōn
> >> >
> >> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --FT
> >> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >> >>>
> >> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach
> full charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from
> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now
> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to
> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I
> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there
> in about an hour.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would agree however this battery came from there and want to get it replaced. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> stay away from Walmart 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes. 
>> Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it 
>> back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged 
>> within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery so 
>> it tests bad and they exchange it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > So no charge?
>> > 
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iFōn
>> > 
>> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>   wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Will they charge you for it?
>> >>> 
>> >>> --FT
>> >>> Sent from iFōn
>> >>> 
>> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>>  
>>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full 
>>  charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from 
>>  charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right 
>>  now it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took 
>>  it to Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger 
>>  now. I doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back 
>>  up there in about an hour. 
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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stay away from Walmart

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes.
> Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it
> back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged
> within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery
> so it tests bad and they exchange it?
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So no charge?
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full
> charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from
> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now
> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to
> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I
> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there
> in about an hour.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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What would cause a battery to discharge after a week or 2 of sitting on the 
shelf but tests good?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:16 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?
> 
> -- Jim
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Run it flat, then hook up a dumb charger in reverse?

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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That's my guess ---

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So stick it in a car and leave the lights on for days, several times in a
> row?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:11 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > A couple of very deep discharges/charges?
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:06 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Baking soda in the cells?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30
> minutes.
> >> Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put
> it
> >> back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be
> discharged
> >> within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this
> battery
> >> so it tests bad and they exchange it?
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So no charge?
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Will they charge you for it?
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach
> full
> >> charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from
> >> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right
> now
> >> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to
> >> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I
> >> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up
> there
> >> in about an hour.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So stick it in a car and leave the lights on for days, several times in a row?

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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:11 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple of very deep discharges/charges?
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:06 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Baking soda in the cells?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes.
>> Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it
>> back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged
>> within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery
>> so it tests bad and they exchange it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So no charge?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Will they charge you for it?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full
>> charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from
>> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now
>> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to
>> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I
>> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there
>> in about an hour.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[OK Don via Mercedes]

A couple of very deep discharges/charges?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:06 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Baking soda in the cells?
>
> -D
>
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes.
> Yet it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it
> back on the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged
> within a couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery
> so it tests bad and they exchange it?
>
>
> 
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So no charge?
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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>  On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will they charge you for it?
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
> > On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full
> charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from
> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now
> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to
> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I
> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there
> in about an hour.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Baking soda in the cells?

-D

On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes. Yet 
it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it back on 
the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged within a 
couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests 
bad and they exchange it?





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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> So no charge?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will they charge you for it?
>>>
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

 You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full 
 charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from 
 charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now 
 it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to 
 Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I 
 doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there 
 in about an hour.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So they put in on their charger and said it charged up, after 30 minutes. Yet 
it discharged just sitting there. I will take it back home and put it back on 
the charger but as soon as removed I’m sure it will be discharged within a 
couple of week. What is the quickest way I can ruin this battery so it tests 
bad and they exchange it?




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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So no charge?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will they charge you for it?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full 
 charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from 
 charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now 
 it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to 
 Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I 
 doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there 
 in about an hour. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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So no charge?

--FT
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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Will they charge you for it?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full 
>>> charge but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from 
>>> charger, after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now 
>>> it’s at 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to 
>>> Walmart. Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I 
>>> doubt it ever gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there 
>>> in about an hour. 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s currently on their charger. Will come back in about an hour 

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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Will they charge you for it?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full charge 
>> but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from charger, 
>> after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 
>> 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. 
>> Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever 
>> gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an 
>> hour. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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Will they charge you for it?

--FT
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> On Apr 29, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You all might remember the battery I have that will never reach full charge 
> but tests good with the electronic tester. With it removed from charger, 
> after about 2 weeks volts drop to about 12 volts or do. Right now it’s at 
> 11.8, that’s sitting on shelf after about 3-4 weeks. Took it to Walmart. 
> Their machine tests it good so they have it on charger now. I doubt it ever 
> gets to complete charge there either. Will go back up there in about an hour. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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Interesting stuff.

https://youtu.be/TAHY2maRvUc

https://www.knowyourparts.com/technical-resources/blog/three-misconceptions-agm-batteries/


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

Yes.  The Pulse tech does not have a AGM mode though.

On 3/27/2022 9:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Are the chargers set to AGM mode?
>
>
> Rick
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> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Subject: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery
>
> I have a battery out of a car that is a Walmart AGM battery dated
> 12/20.  This was the 140 that I could not get into the trunk and the
> cables were not tight.  Car sat for many months and drained it dead.
> Used a pair of jumper cables connected to a good battery (battery out of
> the car at this point as I was able to get into the trunk), and hooked
> charger up to it.  This got it charged up and unhooked 2nd battery.
> Since then, both my pulse tech and various harbor freight smart charger
> will never bring it to a full charger per the chargers.  I hook up my
> electronic battery tester and it tests good.  Tried my old fashioned
> carbon tester and it also showed good.  Hook back up to charger and
> leave it overnight and it always errors out saying overtime charge.  On
> the pulse tech, after being on it a certain amount of time I have
> noticed it gets to the 75% light but eventually just shows bad battery.
> I have not stuck it in a car to see if it will start one but I assume it
> will.  Why would the chargers never show it fully charged, but the volts
> show 12.8-13 volts right after removing from charger, and it tests
> good.  Should I return it to Walmart and see if I can get it exchanged?
> I am assuming they will but a tester on it and it will test good so they
> wont warranty it despite it supposedly never reaching full charge.
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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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Yes.  The Pulse tech does not have a AGM mode though.

On 3/27/2022 9:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Are the chargers set to AGM mode?


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

I have a battery out of a car that is a Walmart AGM battery dated
12/20.  This was the 140 that I could not get into the trunk and the
cables were not tight.  Car sat for many months and drained it dead.
Used a pair of jumper cables connected to a good battery (battery out of
the car at this point as I was able to get into the trunk), and hooked
charger up to it.  This got it charged up and unhooked 2nd battery.
Since then, both my pulse tech and various harbor freight smart charger
will never bring it to a full charger per the chargers.  I hook up my
electronic battery tester and it tests good.  Tried my old fashioned
carbon tester and it also showed good.  Hook back up to charger and
leave it overnight and it always errors out saying overtime charge.  On
the pulse tech, after being on it a certain amount of time I have
noticed it gets to the 75% light but eventually just shows bad battery.
I have not stuck it in a car to see if it will start one but I assume it
will.  Why would the chargers never show it fully charged, but the volts
show 12.8-13 volts right after removing from charger, and it tests
good.  Should I return it to Walmart and see if I can get it exchanged?
I am assuming they will but a tester on it and it will test good so they
wont warranty it despite it supposedly never reaching full charge.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

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Are the chargers set to AGM mode?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: March 27, 2022 8:41 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: [MBZ] Walmart AGM battery

I have a battery out of a car that is a Walmart AGM battery dated
12/20.  This was the 140 that I could not get into the trunk and the
cables were not tight.  Car sat for many months and drained it dead.
Used a pair of jumper cables connected to a good battery (battery out of
the car at this point as I was able to get into the trunk), and hooked
charger up to it.  This got it charged up and unhooked 2nd battery.
Since then, both my pulse tech and various harbor freight smart charger
will never bring it to a full charger per the chargers.  I hook up my
electronic battery tester and it tests good.  Tried my old fashioned
carbon tester and it also showed good.  Hook back up to charger and
leave it overnight and it always errors out saying overtime charge.  On
the pulse tech, after being on it a certain amount of time I have
noticed it gets to the 75% light but eventually just shows bad battery.
I have not stuck it in a car to see if it will start one but I assume it
will.  Why would the chargers never show it fully charged, but the volts
show 12.8-13 volts right after removing from charger, and it tests
good.  Should I return it to Walmart and see if I can get it exchanged?
I am assuming they will but a tester on it and it will test good so they
wont warranty it despite it supposedly never reaching full charge.

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