Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash-now planes
With the Challenger single or two place they really need to be N numbered but do come in under the sportplane rules so no medical needed if you haven't failed one. The Hawk can also be open sided as the doors unzip and you can supposedly get a Hawk single under 245 to qualify for ultralight. If you are inclined to go that way. They still will want to fly around 45 or so. If you want to go really slow then you need to go to one of those MX type planes that I have heard can fly around at 25. Then again they only do a max of about 35-40 vs the Challenger and Hawk at supposedly 100 but I am a lot more comfortable at 70. Manfred Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:40:14 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK - you've widened my horizons - now I have more planes to sort through. Photography is the driving force for my renewed interest in flying. Low, Slow, and open are the main criteria. Last time I was PIC was probably '76 or '77. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
That is what I learned to fly in except that my instructor had added a nose cone and windshield. It was a lot of fun but a bit heavy. I now fly a Challenger single place. A lot more fun and lighter! I attached a picture of it. Manfred Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:36:11 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 While talking (e-mailing) about cars and motorcycles on Joe Amelia's SL list - years ago - a Dr. reminded us of the old saying - a motorcycle is flesh around metal, while a car is metal around flesh. He also remarked about being the track Dr. somewhere in the NE - and finding the remains of a motorcycle rider - fully armored body on one side, and helmeted head on the other side of a tree. So - do what makes you happy, but be aware of the risks. I'm thinking a Breezy is about my speed now -- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/breezy.php -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image19.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 43623 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080212/e662e19b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Still looks a couple of doors short of what I'd want to get in, and somebody stuck the engine on the wrong end too. ;-) Ed 300E On 12/02/2008, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is what I learned to fly in except that my instructor had added a nose cone and windshield. It was a lot of fun but a bit heavy. I now fly a Challenger single place. A lot more fun and lighter! I attached a picture of it. Manfred Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:36:11 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 While talking (e-mailing) about cars and motorcycles on Joe Amelia's SL list - years ago - a Dr. reminded us of the old saying - a motorcycle is flesh around metal, while a car is metal around flesh. He also remarked about being the track Dr. somewhere in the NE - and finding the remains of a motorcycle rider - fully armored body on one side, and helmeted head on the other side of a tree. So - do what makes you happy, but be aware of the risks. I'm thinking a Breezy is about my speed now -- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/breezy.php -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image19.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 43623 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080212/e662e19b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
That's a nice looking machine! It looks like there might be a bit too much that would get in the way of photography though --- I learned in a Piper Vagabond, then a Cessna 150, and ended up with a Cessna 140. On Feb 12, 2008 9:21 AM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is what I learned to fly in except that my instructor had added a nose cone and windshield. It was a lot of fun but a bit heavy. I now fly a Challenger single place. A lot more fun and lighter! I attached a picture of it. Manfred -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
I haven't gotten to that point yet. It's exciting enough just flying it. I think that the photography would rather easy though. There are no windows to open and the sides are right down at my waist, so there is the calm feeling of being cradled inside something (just in case one was to be inclined toward agoraphobia or some such odd affliction) yet there is the freedom to lean over and look straight down if you are too lazy to pull it up onto one wing and just look straight down that way. Much more fun than one of those enclosed planes, though not quite as fast by a long shot. :-) Manfred Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:03:25 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's a nice looking machine! It looks like there might be a bit too much that would get in the way of photography though --- I learned in a Piper Vagabond, then a Cessna 150, and ended up with a Cessna 140. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Nah, the engine is fine just where it is. That way I don't get used to it keeping me cool, just in case it should stop, at least I won't start sweating! Manfred Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:17:26 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Still looks a couple of doors short of what I'd want to get in, and somebody stuck the engine on the wrong end too. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
OK - you've widened my horizons - now I have more planes to sort through. Photography is the driving force for my renewed interest in flying. Low, Slow, and open are the main criteria. Last time I was PIC was probably '76 or '77. On Feb 12, 2008 8:34 PM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't gotten to that point yet. It's exciting enough just flying it. I think that the photography would rather easy though. There are no windows to open and the sides are right down at my waist, so there is the calm feeling of being cradled inside something (just in case one was to be inclined toward agoraphobia or some such odd affliction) yet there is the freedom to lean over and look straight down if you are too lazy to pull it up onto one wing and just look straight down that way. Much more fun than one of those enclosed planes, though not quite as fast by a long shot. :-) Manfred -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Lots of drivers are very distracted these days and doing silly things. I prefer to leave them all behind. I'd still rather give my money to the armed tax collector from time to time, than the body man any day. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is more dangerous if some idiot who is on the cell phone and eating suddenly drops the drink and swerves while trying to catch it, sideswiping you in the process? Just another perspective. My wife had that happen to her on I75 just N. of Miami. She drove home even though she literally had no time to react and the side of her car was banged up. Would you be able to drive your motorcycle home from such an incident? Maybe you could react in time and maybe there would be a way to avoid getting hit or being bumped into another car - and maybe not. That is when the car is safer. Personally [if I could ride] I'd feel safer trailering a bike to a lonely spot... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash I would not want to be the test subject. Talking about safety and accidents, I get a kick out the friends who state that they would never ride something as dangerous as a motorcycle. But the same friends will charge 80 MPH down the interstate in a steel box, with less than a 1/2 second reaction time between them and a car in any direction, all while eating a hamburger talking on a cell phone. And here I am on two wheels, also going 80 MPH down the interstate, paying close attention to those around me always looking for an escape route. So, which is more dangerous? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/11/08 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash They were working on a vest that would inflate which I think carried a CO2 canister much like an air gun. If I remember, you were tethered to the bike with a cord, much like a seadoo, and if you left the bike and pulled out the cord, the vent would inflate. Not sure if such a thing went into production. I know a few companies were also working on air bags for frontal impacts. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1270 - Release Date: 2/10/2008 12:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Can never remove all dangers from everything. Something to be said for just living life too, right :-) Friend of mine has an old Frog eye, no belts, no side, back or front protection, and forget about rollover protection. I'd never pass up an invitation for a ride. :-) We do what we can to limit the risk and put the odds in our favour, but not at the expense of giving up living. Old cars and bikes are great, lets keep ourselves well trained, and our machines well serviced and enjoy both by putting lots of miles on them. :-) Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not want to be the test subject. Talking about safety and accidents, I get a kick out the friends who state that they would never ride something as dangerous as a motorcycle. But the same friends will charge 80 MPH down the interstate in a steel box, with less than a 1/2 second reaction time between them and a car in any direction, all while eating a hamburger talking on a cell phone. And here I am on two wheels, also going 80 MPH down the interstate, paying close attention to those around me always looking for an escape route. So, which is more dangerous? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/11/08 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash They were working on a vest that would inflate which I think carried a CO2 canister much like an air gun. If I remember, you were tethered to the bike with a cord, much like a seadoo, and if you left the bike and pulled out the cord, the vent would inflate. Not sure if such a thing went into production. I know a few companies were also working on air bags for frontal impacts. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1270 - Release Date: 2/10/2008 12:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
They were working on a vest that would inflate which I think carried a CO2 canister much like an air gun. If I remember, you were tethered to the bike with a cord, much like a seadoo, and if you left the bike and pulled out the cord, the vent would inflate. Not sure if such a thing went into production. I know a few companies were also working on air bags for frontal impacts. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Friend of mine has an old Frog eye, no belts, no side, back or front protection, and forget about rollover protection. Are you referring to the late 50's-early 60's Austin Healey Sprites? My dad has always called them Bug Eyes, but Frog Eye works too! I had a neighbor with a '59, but I never got to ride in it since it was a non-runner. He bought a Datsun B210 engine/tranny to put into it, but never installed it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Talking about safety and accidents, I get a kick out the friends who state that they would never ride something as dangerous as a motorcycle. But the same friends will charge 80 MPH down the interstate in a steel box, with less than a 1/2 second reaction time between them and a car in any direction, all while eating a hamburger talking on a cell phone. And here I am on two wheels, also going 80 MPH down the interstate, paying close attention to those around me always looking for an escape route. So, which is more dangerous? Tom Imagine how scary they would be on two wheels!! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Yes, he bought and restored it. He and his Dad are both interested in old British cars. His Dad has two Austin Healey 3000. One Healey is mint, and the other is being restored. The restored 3000 has an auto tranny. :-( I think Moss still vintage races an old 3000, and his navigator is a woman by the name of Zoe something?? This was about 5-10 years ago now. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friend of mine has an old Frog eye, no belts, no side, back or front protection, and forget about rollover protection. Are you referring to the late 50's-early 60's Austin Healey Sprites? My dad has always called them Bug Eyes, but Frog Eye works too! I had a neighbor with a '59, but I never got to ride in it since it was a non-runner. He bought a Datsun B210 engine/tranny to put into it, but never installed it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Geez, I just checked that Breezy link. Think I'd rather take my chances riding a sport bike, naked, at speed than climb aboard that flying thing!! hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While talking (e-mailing) about cars and motorcycles on Joe Amelia's SL list - years ago - a Dr. reminded us of the old saying - a motorcycle is flesh around metal, while a car is metal around flesh. He also remarked about being the track Dr. somewhere in the NE - and finding the remains of a motorcycle rider - fully armored body on one side, and helmeted head on the other side of a tree. So - do what makes you happy, but be aware of the risks. I'm thinking a Breezy is about my speed now -- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/breezy.php On Feb 11, 2008 1:41 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is more dangerous if some idiot who is on the cell phone and eating suddenly drops the drink and swerves while trying to catch it, sideswiping you in the process? Just another perspective. My wife had that happen to her on I75 just N. of Miami. She drove home even though she literally had no time to react and the side of her car was banged up. Would you be able to drive your motorcycle home from such an incident? Maybe you could react in time and maybe there would be a way to avoid getting hit or being bumped into another car - and maybe not. That is when the car is safer. Personally [if I could ride] I'd feel safer trailering a bike to a lonely spot... BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Which is more dangerous if some idiot who is on the cell phone and eating suddenly drops the drink and swerves while trying to catch it, sideswiping you in the process? Just another perspective. My wife had that happen to her on I75 just N. of Miami. She drove home even though she literally had no time to react and the side of her car was banged up. Would you be able to drive your motorcycle home from such an incident? Maybe you could react in time and maybe there would be a way to avoid getting hit or being bumped into another car - and maybe not. That is when the car is safer. Personally [if I could ride] I'd feel safer trailering a bike to a lonely spot... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash I would not want to be the test subject. Talking about safety and accidents, I get a kick out the friends who state that they would never ride something as dangerous as a motorcycle. But the same friends will charge 80 MPH down the interstate in a steel box, with less than a 1/2 second reaction time between them and a car in any direction, all while eating a hamburger talking on a cell phone. And here I am on two wheels, also going 80 MPH down the interstate, paying close attention to those around me always looking for an escape route. So, which is more dangerous? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/11/08 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash They were working on a vest that would inflate which I think carried a CO2 canister much like an air gun. If I remember, you were tethered to the bike with a cord, much like a seadoo, and if you left the bike and pulled out the cord, the vent would inflate. Not sure if such a thing went into production. I know a few companies were also working on air bags for frontal impacts. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1270 - Release Date: 2/10/2008 12:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Say what you want, but when this guy goes out, even here in Florida where it is often over 100F on the pavement, he's got full riding gear on: leathers, boots, full face helmet, and gloves. The wife calls me Mr. Safety. I like to think about it as Mr. I Plan on Living Well into my 90s. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
But you're strapped in, and it has wings! I wonder if you can loop one -- that ought to be more fun than in a Citabria! I actually rationalized my BMW's as a poor substitute for flying. On Feb 11, 2008 9:44 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, I just checked that Breezy link. Think I'd rather take my chances riding a sport bike, naked, at speed than climb aboard that flying thing!! hee hee. Ed 300E -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
What's the old saying, cow hide cheaper and easier to replace than human hide. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you want, but when this guy goes out, even here in Florida where it is often over 100F on the pavement, he's got full riding gear on: leathers, boots, full face helmet, and gloves. The wife calls me Mr. Safety. I like to think about it as Mr. I Plan on Living Well into my 90s. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
I would not want to be the test subject. Talking about safety and accidents, I get a kick out the friends who state that they would never ride something as dangerous as a motorcycle. But the same friends will charge 80 MPH down the interstate in a steel box, with less than a 1/2 second reaction time between them and a car in any direction, all while eating a hamburger talking on a cell phone. And here I am on two wheels, also going 80 MPH down the interstate, paying close attention to those around me always looking for an escape route. So, which is more dangerous? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/11/08 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash They were working on a vest that would inflate which I think carried a CO2 canister much like an air gun. If I remember, you were tethered to the bike with a cord, much like a seadoo, and if you left the bike and pulled out the cord, the vent would inflate. Not sure if such a thing went into production. I know a few companies were also working on air bags for frontal impacts. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem of protecting bikers who get thrown is interesting. One solutions would be strategically placed bags on special clothing worn by the rider that would inflate on contact with the road and stay inflated for X number of seconds until the rider quits sliding or rolling. There could also be a manual trigger the rider could pull that would inflate all the bag (enclosing the rider in an inflated cocoon) if he/she saw the upset was inevitable. Comment? Gerry From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1270 - Release Date: 2/10/2008 12:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
While talking (e-mailing) about cars and motorcycles on Joe Amelia's SL list - years ago - a Dr. reminded us of the old saying - a motorcycle is flesh around metal, while a car is metal around flesh. He also remarked about being the track Dr. somewhere in the NE - and finding the remains of a motorcycle rider - fully armored body on one side, and helmeted head on the other side of a tree. So - do what makes you happy, but be aware of the risks. I'm thinking a Breezy is about my speed now -- http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/breezy.php On Feb 11, 2008 1:41 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is more dangerous if some idiot who is on the cell phone and eating suddenly drops the drink and swerves while trying to catch it, sideswiping you in the process? Just another perspective. My wife had that happen to her on I75 just N. of Miami. She drove home even though she literally had no time to react and the side of her car was banged up. Would you be able to drive your motorcycle home from such an incident? Maybe you could react in time and maybe there would be a way to avoid getting hit or being bumped into another car - and maybe not. That is when the car is safer. Personally [if I could ride] I'd feel safer trailering a bike to a lonely spot... BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
Doubt many of those calling you a wuss have dusted the road with their backsides yet. hee hee. Ed 300E On 11/02/2008, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, asphalt is very abrasive, even at slow speeds. I travel to Wisconsin about once a month and they don't have helmet laws up there. I see people riding with shorts, T-shirts and with no helmet or gloves all the time during the summer. I just can't to it any more than I can drive my Mercedes down the road without the seat belt buckled. BYW, I've been called a wuss for riding with full gear. I just smile go on. As the saying goes, there are a lot of old riders and a lot of bold riders but very few old, bold riders. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
