Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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They’re a coop. That’s why they’re so accommodating. If they were we a state regulated electric utility, they wouldn’t be giving him the time of day, much less purchasing his power. If you read the article I linked to, it highlights one of the weasely things the legislators are doing to try

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Dan Penoff wrote: > They’re a coop. That’s why they’re so accommodating. If they were we a state > regulated electric utility, they wouldn’t be giving him the time of day, much > less purchasing his power. > If you read the article I linked to, it highlights one of the weasely things > the

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Yep, but the bad part is that they still don't pay as much as they charge and you still have to pay the fuel surcharge on all the electricity you use from the line even if you replace it later, or so I was told by one person. I have gotten different stories including that the electricity usage

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Curly wrote: > We needa be more like Yurp! We need to re-jig our entire mind about electric. Long wires with few taps? - absolutely unaffordable. Numerous, i.e. perhaps at every residence - generation facility or solar panels. Then think some other pattern of appliances such as those on

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;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mountain Man <maontin@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp! Curly wrote: > We needa be more like Yurp! We need to re-jig our entire mind about electric. Long wires with few taps? - ab

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Can you produce for your own use? Or put another way, if you have the power co pull the meter and cut the line, can anyone stop you from putting up solar elect. panels? Or how long would it be until the gestapo makes you take em down. Maybe ALCLU would provide you a lawyer. (oops, forgot

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What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed that make it impossible to use solar at your home? The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding solar power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't produce and sell any of that power.

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That is probably true for companies that make the panels, but once the panels are installed and operating, the cost of new panels has little to no influence on the operating cost. This spanish company appears to be an operator. Nothing is said about it being a producer of panels. Solar

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Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist" selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying enough taxes... Government took it over and lost so much money selling

Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist" selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying enough taxes... Government took it over and lost so much money selling

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I don't get it. I'm up in Alachua co. and am in the process of installing a solar array that will put unused electricity back into the grid. At the end of the year if I have put in more then I have used they will send me a check. Sounds to me like I will be selling electricity to the power

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I believe I am correct in saying the Spanish company totally invested in the focused reflector/hot salt , heat exchange to steam turbine generator system of "solar power" Huge up front investment required for each installation. Gigantic reliance on government grants to fund those

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Yes, you can produce for your own consumption. The utilities just don't allow or heavily restrict point-of-use. About the only way it's been gotten around is on a scale of a complete housing development (and quite successfully at that.) Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:57 AM,

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>From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to the >U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and expanding. >It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue going heavily >solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't

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Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp! From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to the U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base

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ist <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp! > > From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to > th

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in in most >>> ways although I suppose we're always chasing Spain on political >>> corruption... >>> -Curt >>> From: archer75--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>&g

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Hopefully you got into the solar FIT program before it stopped accepting new members. FIT, and similar programs throughout the state, may have been stopped from accepting new members by the state government. https://www.gru.com/AboutGRU/Content/SolarFIT.aspx Gerry

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com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp! From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable

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Ah so it is your local company that is doing you. Here the Gainesville regional utilities even had a thing going where they helped buy you a system but that went out a couple of years ago and I'm not in Gainesville anyway. I guess that's why all those people are out trying to get a law passed

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No that doesn't apply to me. I am a part of the Clay Electric Coop. Manfred Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 17:14:30 -0500 From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" Hopefully you got into the solar FIT program before it stopped accepting new members. FIT, and similar programs

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Here's what I found on Clay Electrics website: "Member Generated Power Seminole Electric Cooperative, Inc., through Clay Electric, will purchase electricity generated and delivered to Clay Electric from any of its members' qualifying small photovoltaic systems of 100kW or less, under the

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I don’t know about your area, but around here it’s TECO, or Tampa Electric Company, which was just purchased yesterday by a Canadian firm. They used to have a lottery at the beginning of the year for a fixed number of permits they would issue to purchase point-of-use power. I don’t know the