Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I figured.  M$FT abandons a product but still makes it have to get 
approval to be used.  Makes perfect $en$e.


--R



On 7/18/15 7:04 PM, rawil...@eatel.net via Mercedes wrote:

Yes

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From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
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Subject: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 10:13


What's the story with XP these days?  Does it still have to phone home
to get a code to run?

--R



On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

archer75--- wrote:

Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you
have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic
updates without notice'
That does it. I'm looking for another OS.

Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin*

Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
not "use in on loan from Microsoft".

I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-18 Thread rawillms
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From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Subject: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 10:13


What's the story with XP these days?  Does it still have to phone home 
to get a code to run?

--R



On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
>> archer75--- wrote:
>>
>> Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you
>> have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic
>> updates without notice'
>> That does it. I'm looking for another OS.
> Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin*
>
> Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
> not "use in on loan from Microsoft".
>
> I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
> MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
> to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:48:36 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:46:57 -0600
> Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> > Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I
> > got a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the
> > Windows partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated,
> > obsolete, whatever) laptop.
> > 
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> Hey Craig,
> What's the name of the Linux distro you use? I wrote it down when you
> gave it to me, but haven't been able to find it. Thanks,
> Gerry

CentOS, the Community Enterprise Operating System, https://www.centos.org/

It's based on the open source files for Red Hat's Enterprise Linux
(https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux),
but is without charge instead of $349.


Craig

P.S. I'm running CentOS 5.11 on our laptop because it lacks the PAE (I
 think) BIOS features and won't boot standard CentOS 6 or 7. (I know
 there are ways around this, but I haven't explored them.)

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:46:57 -0600
Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:41:37 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
> > not "use in on loan from Microsoft".
> > 
> > I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
> > MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
> > to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...
> 
> Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I got
> a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the Windows
> partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated, obsolete,
> whatever) laptop.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 

Hey Craig,
What's the name of the Linux distro you use? I wrote it down when you gave it 
to me, but haven't been able to find it.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:41:37 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
> not "use in on loan from Microsoft".
> 
> I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
> MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
> to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...

Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I got
a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the Windows
partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated, obsolete,
whatever) laptop.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
What's the story with XP these days?  Does it still have to phone home 
to get a code to run?


--R



On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

archer75--- wrote:

Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you
have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic
updates without notice'
That does it. I'm looking for another OS.

Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin*

Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
not "use in on loan from Microsoft".

I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

 > archer75--- wrote:


 Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT - unless you
 have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic
 updates without notice'



 That does it. I'm looking for another OS.


Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin*

Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
not "use in on loan from Microsoft".

I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...


I am gonna be ordering my life so that if it won't run on XP, Mac or 
'nix, it don't exist.


I need very little from the evil empire any more.

(MCSE Certified, Former MCT)

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> archer75--- wrote:
> 
> Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you
> have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic
> updates without notice'

> That does it. I'm looking for another OS.

Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin*

Never the less, I agree.  I think I should _own_ my system,
not "use in on loan from Microsoft".

I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require
MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have
to upgrade.  Win7, I guess...

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Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer

2015-07-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT - unless you have 
Enterprise Edition

'You agree to receive automatic updates without notice'

Microsoft's licensing on the upcoming Windows 10 OS means that most 
users will find their systems updating on command from Redmond 
without any option to stop this.


The Licensing Agreement for Windows 10, as found in the latest 
release candidate build 10240 of Windows 10 Professional, states:


The Software periodically checks for system and app updates, and 
downloads and installs them for you.


You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorised 
sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you 
with those updates.


By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of 
automatic updates without any additional notice.


Microsoft's intention is that users will be always up-to-date, not 
only with security patches, but also with feature updates.


This makes it easier for the company to keep pace with changing 
technology, and provides developers with a more consistent target 
for applications.


The downside is that feature upgrades can potentially break 
applications, or drivers for peripherals such as printers and 
scanners. Those who value stability above having the latest features 
may prefer to install security updates only.


Windows 10 does allow this, but only for businesses running the 
Enterprise Edition of Windows. These customers can opt for the Long 
Term Service Branch (LTSB), which is updated only every 2-3 years 
(just like traditional Windows releases)


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/windows_10_will_update_whether_you_like_it_or_not_unless_you_have_enterprise_edition/
.
That does it. I'm looking for another OS.



You WILL run only Software from the M$ collective!

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