Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
I figured. M$FT abandons a product but still makes it have to get approval to be used. Makes perfect $en$e. --R On 7/18/15 7:04 PM, rawil...@eatel.net via Mercedes wrote: Yes Sent from my Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Cc: "Rich Thomas" Subject: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 10:13 What's the story with XP these days? Does it still have to phone home to get a code to run? --R On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: archer75--- wrote: Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic updates without notice' That does it. I'm looking for another OS. Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin* Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, not "use in on loan from Microsoft". I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have to upgrade. Win7, I guess... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
Yes Sent from my Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Cc: "Rich Thomas" Subject: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer Date: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 10:13 What's the story with XP these days? Does it still have to phone home to get a code to run? --R On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> archer75--- wrote: >> >> Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you >> have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic >> updates without notice' >> That does it. I'm looking for another OS. > Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin* > > Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, > not "use in on loan from Microsoft". > > I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require > MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have > to upgrade. Win7, I guess... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:48:36 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:46:57 -0600 > Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > > Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I > > got a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the > > Windows partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated, > > obsolete, whatever) laptop. > > > > > > Craig > > > > Hey Craig, > What's the name of the Linux distro you use? I wrote it down when you > gave it to me, but haven't been able to find it. Thanks, > Gerry CentOS, the Community Enterprise Operating System, https://www.centos.org/ It's based on the open source files for Red Hat's Enterprise Linux (https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux), but is without charge instead of $349. Craig P.S. I'm running CentOS 5.11 on our laptop because it lacks the PAE (I think) BIOS features and won't boot standard CentOS 6 or 7. (I know there are ways around this, but I haven't explored them.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 11:46:57 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:41:37 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, > > not "use in on loan from Microsoft". > > > > I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require > > MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have > > to upgrade. Win7, I guess... > > Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I got > a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the Windows > partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated, obsolete, > whatever) laptop. > > > Craig > Hey Craig, What's the name of the Linux distro you use? I wrote it down when you gave it to me, but haven't been able to find it. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:41:37 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, > not "use in on loan from Microsoft". > > I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require > MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have > to upgrade. Win7, I guess... Garmin no longer supports XP with their map update application, so I got a Win 7 Home Premium DVD from an eBay seller to load on the Windows partitions of our Dell Inspiron 600m (anemic, outdated, obsolete, whatever) laptop. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
What's the story with XP these days? Does it still have to phone home to get a code to run? --R On 7/17/15 11:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: archer75--- wrote: Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic updates without notice' That does it. I'm looking for another OS. Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin* Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, not "use in on loan from Microsoft". I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have to upgrade. Win7, I guess... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
> archer75--- wrote: Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT - unless you have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic updates without notice' That does it. I'm looking for another OS. Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin* Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, not "use in on loan from Microsoft". I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have to upgrade. Win7, I guess... I am gonna be ordering my life so that if it won't run on XP, Mac or 'nix, it don't exist. I need very little from the evil empire any more. (MCSE Certified, Former MCT) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
> archer75--- wrote: > > Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you > have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic > updates without notice' > That does it. I'm looking for another OS. Put it behind a firewall, then block access to all MS hosts. *evil grin* Never the less, I agree. I think I should _own_ my system, not "use in on loan from Microsoft". I'm still able to use XP for all the things that require MSWin, but I think I see the day approaching where I'll have to upgrade. Win7, I guess... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Win 10 owns your computer
Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT - unless you have Enterprise Edition 'You agree to receive automatic updates without notice' Microsoft's licensing on the upcoming Windows 10 OS means that most users will find their systems updating on command from Redmond without any option to stop this. The Licensing Agreement for Windows 10, as found in the latest release candidate build 10240 of Windows 10 Professional, states: The Software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorised sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice. Microsoft's intention is that users will be always up-to-date, not only with security patches, but also with feature updates. This makes it easier for the company to keep pace with changing technology, and provides developers with a more consistent target for applications. The downside is that feature upgrades can potentially break applications, or drivers for peripherals such as printers and scanners. Those who value stability above having the latest features may prefer to install security updates only. Windows 10 does allow this, but only for businesses running the Enterprise Edition of Windows. These customers can opt for the Long Term Service Branch (LTSB), which is updated only every 2-3 years (just like traditional Windows releases) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/windows_10_will_update_whether_you_like_it_or_not_unless_you_have_enterprise_edition/ . That does it. I'm looking for another OS. You WILL run only Software from the M$ collective! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com