Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out
I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower Those have a pretty low power draw, something like 20W. (Assuming you didn't hot it up too much.) They'd be a fairly decent media server, assuming they'd be up to the task. Our dual and quad G5's are 10-20x the power draw, leave them on and you'd see it in your power bill. Lack of space and need, though, I gave our G4 tower away. We'd never deployed it for anything, it was a gift from a neighbor that bought a pallet load of PC's that came from a school district. Got the monitor I'm using on this dual G5 in the same batch. (Jill's 30 cinema display was _not_ free, however!) The G3 beige is on 24x7, and runs 10.2.8, upon which I use Apple Mail, and master my web site. I did all the Illustrator schematics I have on it, too. I finally got to stop going downstairs to read email when I figured out that Vines was the only way to do remote screen work. Once that was up and running I got to stay upstairs and run the Beige from either my Pismo, or this G5D that's networked _through_ another Pismo's airport. This G5D is the only non–laptop we have that's not using a hardwire ethernet link. The G5's are the only things that surf well, though, except for selected sites like Craigslist where the Pismo is happy. I had to give up surfing on the Beige years ago, though at first it worked just fine. Javascript cured that. I have a G5 dual because it turned out there was no way to effectively use the 30 display on it. I had to buy another (quad) in order to get a high-enough capacity video card. So I put the dual in service for myself. Oops. I use it to surf, and to offload the camera's pictures. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3 pismo. If it weren't for Jim I think I'd be the winner here in the oldest Mac in regular use sweepstakes. I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower that gets turned on almost every day, although it is mostly used only for film scanning, video conversion, and sound editing. It's been upgraded with the maximum amount of memory, a CPU accelerator, new hard drives, an SATA card, newer video card, and a USB 2.0 card (hard to believe it came with USB 1.0 on the motherboard!), but amazingly is still running the original power supply (I do have a spare handy just in case). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i gave my g4 tower to my kid and she pretty much gave up on it. :( On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3 pismo. If it weren't for Jim I think I'd be the winner here in the oldest Mac in regular use sweepstakes. I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower that gets turned on almost every day, although it is mostly used only for film scanning, video conversion, and sound editing. It's been upgraded with the maximum amount of memory, a CPU accelerator, new hard drives, an SATA card, newer video card, and a USB 2.0 card (hard to believe it came with USB 1.0 on the motherboard!), but amazingly is still running the original power supply (I do have a spare handy just in case). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a G4 Quicksilver sitting in the back bedroom acting as a backup machine. That's about as old as mine get. My current machine (which just recently replaced a C2D 20 iMac) is a Mac Pro 1,1 Intel. I want to upgrade the processors to 5355s and make it an 8 core machine, but I'm just not motivated to do it at this point as I don't do anything that requires that sort of horsepower. I will say that adding SSD boot drives to my machines has made them quite fast. If anyone wants my G4 I would part with it cheap. It's just taking up space. Got a 15 Cinema Display, the round speakers, a RAID card with a couple of drives and I don't know how much memory. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 11:54 PM -0400 10/26/13, Gary Hurst wrote: basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? Email, limited Net access and iTunes, basically. In a pinch, I can do simple graphics work on it. i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid Got a stack of junker Pismos in the garage as parts donors. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) i also had some small investment in PCMCIA stuff. not sure what happened to that. probably in the ex wife's garage On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:53 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: At 11:54 PM -0400 10/26/13, Gary Hurst wrote: basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? Email, limited Net access and iTunes, basically. In a pinch, I can do simple graphics work on it. i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid Got a stack of junker Pismos in the garage as parts donors. -MMM- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Pismo's were great -- with two batteries, I got upwards of 8 hours of run time, specially after new cells in the batteries. However, it was slow as molasses with Word, which I'm stuck with, and much heavier than the TiBook. My TiBook is back to full function now -- I lost a screw out of the top frame in the bottom, and the other one was loose under the keyboard, and I found the screws holding the batter connector in place were also loose (being a watchmaker, I tend to under rather than over tighten things!). Got all that fixed and suddenly the re-celled battery is working properly, it doesn't lose it's time settings every start, and it's usable again. Don't do all that much with it, as it won't support new enough software for full browsing use (I think it's still running 10.4.6), but for image editing of family photos, keeping track of beer and wine batches, and email it's great. I could skin however decided to glue the whole darned thing together though, it's all failing and it's a huge pain to re-glue everything. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either (self-igniting Powerbooks aside, as that wasn't a Apple issue, it was a Sony battery issue that persisted for some years). Now they are high priced self-destructing throw- aways -- my family history is 20% dead in a week with new MacBooks over a few years, which is totally unacceptable. Main problem is excess heat localized to the video and processor chips -- they run HOT unless actively cooled (by the time smcfancontrol initializes on my newly fixed MacBook A1211, the chip is up to 80C) and the thermal stress cracks the solder even when they are re- balled. Bad design with totally inadequate cooling due to the silly demand that they be so thin. Adding 1/4 to the height would fix it right up and allow a return to a design with fewer screws, etc. Oh well, we shall see. Not going to be significant changes in performance any more, so they are all pretty much commodity objects now -- you can still buy a MacBook with the same performance specs (other than more cores, which becomes valueless beyond 4 anyway) as mine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i still like big free standing desktop units. i dont' see how those laptops can work out consistently On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either (self-igniting Powerbooks aside, as that wasn't a Apple issue, it was a Sony battery issue that persisted for some years). Now they are high priced self-destructing throw-aways -- my family history is 20% dead in a week with new MacBooks over a few years, which is totally unacceptable. Main problem is excess heat localized to the video and processor chips -- they run HOT unless actively cooled (by the time smcfancontrol initializes on my newly fixed MacBook A1211, the chip is up to 80C) and the thermal stress cracks the solder even when they are re-balled. Bad design with totally inadequate cooling due to the silly demand that they be so thin. Adding 1/4 to the height would fix it right up and allow a return to a design with fewer screws, etc. Oh well, we shall see. Not going to be significant changes in performance any more, so they are all pretty much commodity objects now -- you can still buy a MacBook with the same performance specs (other than more cores, which becomes valueless beyond 4 anyway) as mine. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of people, a smart phone is all they really use. Me, I have a couple SCSI scanners attached, two printers (and soon three when I get the BW R1800 fixed), so a desktop is pretty much a requirement. Better memory, better processing power, etc. than the contemporary ones. Since I've moved to an LCD monitor, though, there is very little difference between the laptop (MacBook Pro) and the desktop other than the SCSI connector. Scanning is still quite slow, but that's a function of the scanners, not the computer. Big honking desktop machines are probably a niche market now though, because the only people who really use them are doing video editing or heavy duty Photoshop or publishing. Ordinary users don't need anywhere near the power or memory for web browsing or email, family pictures, etc. Although I do have to admit there seems to be a trend toward more and more intensive data exchange (read crap on web pages) these days. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of reballing GPUs in G5 iMacs and others, I have two 20 G5 iMacs on my bench that need cap replacements. I have the caps, but I don't have a soldering iron that is hot enough for the newer solder they used. I should put one of those on my list Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i still like big free standing desktop units. i dont' see how those laptops can work out consistently On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't remember any video chips cracking off the boards or stupid stuff like that in those days either (self-igniting Powerbooks aside, as that wasn't a Apple issue, it was a Sony battery issue that persisted for some years). Now they are high priced self-destructing throw-aways -- my family history is 20% dead in a week with new MacBooks over a few years, which is totally unacceptable. Main problem is excess heat localized to the video and processor chips -- they run HOT unless actively cooled (by the time smcfancontrol initializes on my newly fixed MacBook A1211, the chip is up to 80C) and the thermal stress cracks the solder even when they are re-balled. Bad design with totally inadequate cooling due to the silly demand that they be so thin. Adding 1/4 to the height would fix it right up and allow a return to a design with fewer screws, etc. Oh well, we shall see. Not going to be significant changes in performance any more, so they are all pretty much commodity objects now -- you can still buy a MacBook with the same performance specs (other than more cores, which becomes valueless beyond 4 anyway) as mine. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i don't know how many smartphones have 3 28 screens. i want big video and big audio On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Don't know if desktops are a habit or a requirement, but for most people it doesn't make any difference. In fact, for a lot of people, a smart phone is all they really use. Me, I have a couple SCSI scanners attached, two printers (and soon three when I get the BW R1800 fixed), so a desktop is pretty much a requirement. Better memory, better processing power, etc. than the contemporary ones. Since I've moved to an LCD monitor, though, there is very little difference between the laptop (MacBook Pro) and the desktop other than the SCSI connector. Scanning is still quite slow, but that's a function of the scanners, not the computer. Big honking desktop machines are probably a niche market now though, because the only people who really use them are doing video editing or heavy duty Photoshop or publishing. Ordinary users don't need anywhere near the power or memory for web browsing or email, family pictures, etc. Although I do have to admit there seems to be a trend toward more and more intensive data exchange (read crap on web pages) these days. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between the iPad and my desktop I can pretty much do everything I need. I don't miss the laptop at all. I would say that had I been able to find some sort of cellular arrangement for my HP TouchPad I would have stayed with it and not bothered with the iPad. I really liked that tablet and the a Android OS. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i rarely need to be away from my computer, but i think a tablet would be adquate for me in that situation On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between the iPad and my desktop I can pretty much do everything I need. I don't miss the laptop at all. I would say that had I been able to find some sort of cellular arrangement for my HP TouchPad I would have stayed with it and not bothered with the iPad. I really liked that tablet and the a Android OS. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The Android OS on the HP TouchPad did everything I needed and more, and it was easily configurable and allowed me to tinker under the hood all I wanted. The was purportedly a Euro version of it that had LTE, but I've never seen one. The only determining factor was connectivity, but to be honest, I don't really care for the closed environment of the iPad. I may still get a TouchPad again for general use around the house, as I liked it far better than the iPad. Dan burning in Apple hell, no doubt Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i rarely need to be away from my computer, but i think a tablet would be adquate for me in that situation On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I sold my 15 CD MacBook Pro last year to fund an iPad with LTE/3G. I got enough for it to buy a refurb iPad 2. Between the iPad and my desktop I can pretty much do everything I need. I don't miss the laptop at all. I would say that had I been able to find some sort of cellular arrangement for my HP TouchPad I would have stayed with it and not bothered with the iPad. I really liked that tablet and the a Android OS. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: My main laptop for dragging to work and on trips is a TiBook 1 GHz (2003), and my desktop is a MDD dual G4. I've been experimenting with later MacBook Pro's (reflowing the video chips), but I don't think they are as reliable. Good, solid machines. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of bad caps, I have a MacBook Pro that is totally inert now except that the battery charges. Any chance of a blow fuse or bad cap on the logic board keeping it from booting? Acts as if the logic board has now power, and I don't really have the tools to investigate. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 1:55 PM -0400 10/27/13, Gary Hurst wrote: yeah, i loved that pismo. had 2 or 3 working ones and a few parts ones. i wish someone built a machine like that today. i liked how you could either plug in a drive or an extra battery :) Yep! With two batteries in good nick, that thing would go for ten hours off the grid at a pop. If Apple would make a CoreDuo Pismo, I'd buy one in a shot. Damn things are bulletproof. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of firewire externals for all my junk. Media Mac is a 2009 MacMini hooked to a 42 Sony. External drive has iTunes and ripped video. Two terabyte holds enough music and crap. Streams to the AppleTV on the big screen in the media room, as well as to #2 boy's G5 and iPads and iPhones. #1 boy streams to his Sony laptop. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yeah, that's kinda what i'm talking about. someone finally understands! On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of firewire externals for all my junk. Media Mac is a 2009 MacMini hooked to a 42 Sony. External drive has iTunes and ripped video. Two terabyte holds enough music and crap. Streams to the AppleTV on the big screen in the media room, as well as to #2 boy's G5 and iPads and iPhones. #1 boy streams to his Sony laptop. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My buddy still uses his G5 w/ 30 Cinema display bit admits its getting tired. I still have my 2007 17 MBP though it too is getting tired. I don't need screens to just appear, but as the software becomes more complex it gets slower and slower. It can't really keep up with my scanner like newer machines. It has been a good one considering its 6 years old. I upgraded the RAM and hard drive. It has the dreaded 17 MBP battery problem and after the 2nd one died I didn't replace it. The motherboard was replaced out of warranty through a NVIDIA recall program. On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, that's kinda what i'm talking about. someone finally understands! On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Travel mac is a 2.2 core2 Duo macbook. I tote a airport express for secured wifi Desktop is a MacPro quad Xenon with 8 gig triple monitor and a bank of firewire externals for all my junk. Media Mac is a 2009 MacMini hooked to a 42 Sony. External drive has iTunes and ripped video. Two terabyte holds enough music and crap. Streams to the AppleTV on the big screen in the media room, as well as to #2 boy's G5 and iPads and iPhones. #1 boy streams to his Sony laptop. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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basically to run an email client or it can do more than that? i had a bunch of pismos i gave away to some kid On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:48 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out
You may already be aware of [1]http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ which provides custom builds of Firefox for PPC Macs. It's the only way I know of to get a modern, updated web browser for these computers. No plugins though, so no Flash. I live quite happily without it, if you want to watch YouTube get MacTubes; with that I don't miss Flash at all. Allan On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:48 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gary Hurst [2]jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib [3]str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1][4]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2][5]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3][6]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. [7]http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. [8]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. [9]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ [10]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [11]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [12]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [13]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [14]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [15]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ [16]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [17]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [18]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ 2. mailto:jabbahur...@gmail.com 3. mailto:str...@cs.indiana.edu 4. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 5. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 6. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 7. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 8. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 9. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 10. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 11. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 12. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 13. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 14. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 15. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 16. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 17. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 18. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3 pismo. The only things these systems fall down on is surfing. The modern sites are so crapped up that they can barely work on what was once screaming state-of-the-art hardware. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i have flash on tenfourfox On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: You may already be aware of [1]http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ which provides custom builds of Firefox for PPC Macs. It's the only way I know of to get a modern, updated web browser for these computers. No plugins though, so no Flash. I live quite happily without it, if you want to watch YouTube get MacTubes; with that I don't miss Flash at all. Allan On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:48 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: I use a 1999 G3 Lombard as my main laptop on the road... -MMM- On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gary Hurst [2]jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is good to hear. i don't think old things should be discarded simply because marketing types propping up consumerist society try to convince you to discard them and get something new. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Allan Streib [3]str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I've used a 12 G4 PowerBook as my main computer for years (though at this moment I'm using and slowly transitioning to a mid-2007 iMac). Still use the old G4 on an almost daily basis though. On Sat, Oct 26, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. i'm hoping to keep it working long enough to get it to 10 years old before considering retiring it. odds are not on my side to get it to the middle of 2015 -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [1][4]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [2][5]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [3][6]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. [7]http://www.okiebenz.com/ 2. [8]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 3. [9]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ [10]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [11]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [12]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ [13]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [14]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [15]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ [16]http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives [17]http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: [18]http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ 2. mailto:jabbahur...@gmail.com 3. mailto:str...@cs.indiana.edu 4. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 5. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 6. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 7. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 8. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 9. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 10. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 11. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 12. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 13. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 14. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 15. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 16. http://www.okiebenz.com/ 17. http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 18. http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i am very happy to hear all this. i really thought i was alone in this On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac as his main computer. Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3. Though most days I'm using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3 pismo. The only things these systems fall down on is surfing. The modern sites are so crapped up that they can barely work on what was once screaming state-of-the-art hardware. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
