Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-16 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Alexander Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors Daran wrote: Ad far as I can see it is a regular PostScript. I don't know

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-11 Thread Alexander Kruppa
Daran wrote: Peter Montgomery's dissertation, An FFT Extension to the Elliptic Curve Method of Factorization, ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/pmontgom/ucladissertation.psl.gz , What do I need to read a psl file? Ad far as I can see it is a regular PostScript. I don't know if the extra l indicates

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-06 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Alexander Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors George Woltman wrote: At 10:31 PM 12/3/2002

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-06 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors There is obviously a tradeoff here between increasing B2 and simplifying E

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-06 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:35 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors The analysis is more complex than this... I never doubted that. :-) [...] Why

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-05 Thread Alexander Kruppa
George Woltman wrote: At 10:31 PM 12/3/2002 +, Daran wrote: The analysis is more complex than this. It really depends on the prime [...] I'd be greatly interested in such a study. Peter Montgomery's dissertation, An FFT Extension to the Elliptic Curve Method of Factorization,

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-05 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 21:46, Daran wrote: [... snip ...] ...though I think there needs to be a careful analysis as to what the extra computation time for actual E values might be... I agree. My tests have been limited to exponents in the 8.1M range, for no particular reason than

RE: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-05 Thread Paul Leyland
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Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-05 Thread Gareth Randall
Isn't this (3GB user mode) only supported on Windows NT Advanced Server? (which is probably free for you to use but for everyone else costs the same as a new car!) If it isn't then I've encountered some people who will wish they'd have known about this a long time ago :-) Paul Leyland wrote:

RE: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-05 Thread Aaron
with the Enterprise edition. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gareth Randall Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 2:25 PM To: Paul Leyland Cc: Brian J. Beesley; Daran; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-04 Thread Brian J. Beesley
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 22:31, Daran wrote: [... snip ...] For clarity, let's write mD as x, so that for a Suyama power E, the exponent (x^E - d^E) is thrown into the mix when either x-d or x+d is prime in [B1...B2], (and only once if both are prime). This works because (provide E is

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-04 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Brian J. Beesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors Let's see if I get this right. Overwhelmingly, the factors produced by P-1

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-04 Thread George Woltman
At 10:31 PM 12/3/2002 +, Daran wrote: For clarity, let's write mD as x, so that for a Suyama power E, the exponent (x^E - d^E) is thrown into the mix when either x-d or x+d is prime in [B1...B2], (and only once if both are prime). This works because (provide E is even) x^E - d^E =

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-12-03 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: George Woltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:18 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors At 06:05 PM 11/27/2002 +, Daran wrote: if (D = 180) E = 2

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-11-27 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Alexander Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors This is the Brent-Suyama extension, aka Suyama's powers. In short, if you

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-11-27 Thread George Woltman
At 06:05 PM 11/27/2002 +, Daran wrote: if (D = 180) E = 2; else if (D = 420) E = 4; else if (D = 2310) E = 12; else if (D = 6930) E = 30; else E = 48; I understand why it chooses the values of D that

Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors

2002-09-25 Thread Daran
- Original Message - From: Alexander Kruppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Mersenne: P-1 and non k-smooth factors This is the Brent-Suyama extension, aka Suyama's powers. In short, if you