Hello list,
I'm new to this list. I have been developping with
HyperCard from 1987 to 93, and have also developped
several applications in OMO.
I'm presently working with Metacard, and have been asked
to work on a application project in which the user will have
to manipulate 3D objects on the
Richard Gaskin :
MetaCard's support of QuickTime does include QTVR. It's a great
implementation too: you can control the pan, tilt, and other QTVR.
Thanks for the tip.
That's pretty good news, although I didn't find any info on that
matter in the MC help stacks (I've downloaded the
As I recall from the last time this discussion was raised, the main
challenge here is this one:
Find a multi-platform vector graphics standard that everyone
will be happy with.
What about PDF ? Does it imply licensing from (and negociating with)
Adobe ? Or use the PDF plug-in for
Philip wrote :
I appreciate the comments by Chris Condit regarding vector graphics. I have
a commercial program im MetaCard (www.biblemaps.com) where I have several
hundred maps that have to be converted to bitmap to be imported into MC.
Yet, in order to print cleanly, I still have to
Ooops ! Just realized that I made a mistake in the code
sent with my previous post...
The explanations were OK, but the following should work
better :
on openstack
global stackA
if stackA is not empty then
--prompt error message
set lockmessages to true
-- exit
andu :
MetaCard can send any data using sockets but the html formatting with
images and all that must be done by other app.
You can also generate HTML pages "on the fly" through MC scripts and
send those pages using sockets...
JB
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andu :
MetaCard can send any data using sockets but the html formatting with
images and all that must be done by other app.
You can also generate HTML pages "on the fly" through MC scripts and
send those pages using sockets...
JB
Still on the subject of generating code "on
andu :
Talking to the printer is the easy part, generating "on the fly" PS or
PDF would imply MC has a built-in interpreter for that language. On UNIX
platforms there is Ghostscript which is a "free" PS interpreter (and it
sucks) and the only way to print more then text, but licensing
Monte Goulding :
Hi
Have you been reading the thread about generating pdf files?
Yes, more or less...
Would you be prepared to share your knowledge of pdf to create a script that
could export
text and images to create a pdf file?
Thanks for any help.
Well, this option actuall
Hi,
Is there any possibility to send / receive data
to / from a board on a PCI slot through a
MC script ?
Same question about receiving / sending MIDI
via the printer or modem ports ?
Thanks Regards,
JB
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Monte :
Of course, a more accurate description of what the script is supposed to
do will be much apreciated...
I've done some reading on the format and it seems you can include jpeg and
png images into the pdf file. As mc can save images to these formats then it
would be relatively
Sjoerd Op 't Land a crit:
Same question about receiving / sending MIDI
via the printer or modem ports ?
Well, I'm still searching for a neat external which controls MIDI via OMS,
Have you tried those :
http://www.earlevel.com/HyperMIDI/
Hi list,
This might sound like a silly newbie question, but I was
wondering : in case a MC app is used on a Linux / Unix
server as a CGI app, how is it done exactly ?
Is it a stack run by the Unix version of MC, or can one
built a standalone and launch it as any other app on the server ?
And in
Hello again,
For a project I'm working on, I need to store
on a CD-ROM a collection of photos.
The user can browse through thumbnails, and
by double-clicking on a thumbnail a larger
view of that foto is displayed.
The CD-ROM also features a high-resolution
version of each foto (for DTP print
Hi list,
Ahem... It's me again, and I'm going to talk about printing
facilities in MC...
This week only I've got three demands from clients for
development of products in which online + CD-ROM
versions with high quality printing features (PS pdf) are
on top of the request list...
From a more
Frederic is still alive???
Well, at least he was still alive 2 days ago,
as the latest update of his web page is dated
march 7th...;-)
JB
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Dave,
At 2:23 PM + 8/3/01, jbv wrote:
Is there any built-in function of MC that allows
copy / move of files between directories, or is
an XCMD / DLL necessary ? And if yes, which
one would you advise ?
put url ("binfile:" sourcefile) into url ("binfile:" dest
Richard Gaskin :
We see a number of threads where Mac users have some non-cross platform
needs which would be easily address by some of Rinaldi's tools.
I thought *every* xTalker on the planet knew about
this but apparently not. For what it's worth:
Hi guys,
For a current project, I'm asked by a client to develop
a customed screen saver.
I was wondering if this could be done with MC...
If not, could someone be kind enough to point me
to some (simple) development tools for (simple)
screen savers (Mac AND PC) ?
Thanks in advance.
JB
Hi,
Is there any javascript specialist on this list ?
I have a couple of questions regarding specific
programing issues (mostly related to frame sets).
Please contact me off-list...
Thanks.
JB
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andu a crit:
Or license metaTalk as the default script language of OS X. Now, that
would make a killer OS. It can do shell too.
But Jobs is not *that* good.
IMHO it's not a matter of being good or bad; it's just that
Apple always refused to rely on third parties for any part
of the Mac
Richard MacLemale a crit:
MetaCard is expensive, but there's no real competition for what it does
(card-based design that's cross platform and powerful.) The problem is that
it is priced out of reach of general hobbyists, and those are the people who
would really benefit from starting on
Hi folks,
Has anyone already tried to read raw data
on the Mac modem / printer port ?
Does the following script work :
open modem:
read from modem:
close modem:
Thanks.
JB
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Hi again,
Yes, it's question day...;-)
I have a few questions regarding font display
quality (aliasing, etc) in MC Revolution...
Does anyone have a strong experience on
this topic ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi again again...
Yes, question day continues...
Actually it's more a suggestion / request / whatever...
When building a standalone, about 3 Mb (at least
on Mac) are added to the file, which I guess is the
complete MT interpreter...
Could it be possible (in future MC versions for
instance)
Sjoerd Op 't Land a écrit:
jbv wrote/ schreef:
Hi folks,
Has anyone already tried to read raw data
on the Mac modem / printer port ?
Does the following script work :
open modem:
read from modem:
close modem:
Guess it should be file modem: instead of modem
Hi boys girls,
Here comes the sockets thread again.
I actually spent the afternoon scripting a small chat
program under MC and it works very well between
the various machines of our LAN (Macs, Win98
Linux).
Now I want to move to larger scale prof. projects :
basically a MC app running on a
andu,
Reading from the socket until empty is *not* the way to go. Try to
device a protocol (say like http) where you give the server a more
reliable parameter for its read, like the size of the message or some
character that would mark the end of it.
Also you can make use of
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Anyone have a functional stack that allows two people to chat
back and forth?
I do. I managed to program it in a half day last week,
and we're using it at work both with local clients and
external IPs.
The only problem is that it works with a little server
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Anyone have a functional stack that allows two people to chat
back and forth?
Here we go. The little chat stack has been re-shaped by one of our
students / trainees.
The stack (and its tutorial) can be downloaded at :
Hi,
http://www.netchampagne.com/MetaCard/Direct_Chat.zip seems to be a wrong adress.
(The requested URL /MetaCard/Direct_Chat.zip was not found on this server.)
Indeed. Looks like someone removed those files from the server.
I can't do anything until monday morning though...
Anyway, you
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If it's *not* your own server, wait until mchttpd has a proper wrapper
before installing it yourself.
[snip]
Play safe, we consider mchttpd experimental until it's *wrapped*.
Any idea of when a proper wrapper should be available ?
just asking...
JB
Hi list,
We have MChttp installed on our local mail server
running Apache, and I've been doing various
client / server tests and scripts.
Everything works fine fast, except that I noticed
that long cgi requests using POST method from a
browser get truncated...
My script use the following
Hi,
Has anyone already tried to implement a hardware key
protection (dongle) with a MC standalone ?
Thanks.
JB
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Robert Brenstein :
I just read that Panorama recently released v4.0 (see
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0107/10.panorama.shtml).
Given that both MC and Panorama are RAM-based, anyone have insights into why
building databases in native MC is discouraged?
I am not an expert but
Hi guys,
can an object (btn, fld, image, etc) be part of different
groups simultaneously ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi again,
I'm trying to find a graphic format to import in
an image object in MC that doesn't mess up with
transparency (in 8 bits on the alpha channel).
I tried PNG and GIF, but it seems that those
formats include transparency on 1 bit only.
The ideal thing would be to import Photoshop
files,
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Some years ago I developped a relational database that was faster than
Filemaker.
There were about 70 records... FMP just chocked on it. HC stacks choked
after
12 MBs of data where in...
The trick was to split the interface/engine from the records which were in
Today I've been playing with groups in MC and found
it quite frustrating, for 2 main reasons (if I missed
anything please MC gurus enlighten me) :
- the only way to group controls is to select them first,
which makes grouping/ungrouping on the fly via script
quite cumbersome : you need to set
At 12:55 AM -0700 7/20/2001, jbv wrote:
I'm also having problems changing bordercolor
of images...
The color of image borders is inherited. (The bordercolor of an image does
something else, it's determined by the image's palette data.) So you need
to set the borderColor of the card/stack
Hi guys,
Sorry to bother you again with the same thread, but I made
some more discoveries on the topic of on-the-fly grouping /
ungrouping.
As described before, I have 50 images that can be grouped /
ungrouped in various ways.
If I run the following script :
group image id 1430
set
Nelson,
I've created a stack on my Mac to keep track of the editions of my wife's
bronze sculpture. Cross town the gallery is PC, is there any way to get my
stack to run on their PC without creating a standalone?
Nelson Zink
In theory (and in practice), if they download the right version
Hi,
I'm trying to find a way to get the info relative to cookies
passed by a cgi server in the header of an HTML document.
for instance :
Set-Cookie: CUSTOMER=WILE_E_COYOTE; path=/; expires=Wednesday, 09-Nov-99
23:12:40 GMT
As far as I understand, when I run
get URL www.whatever.com
in
Hi,
I have a problem with preventing Mousestilldown message
to be passed from a palette to the stack.
Whatever I do (like putting on Mousestilldown / end
Mousestilldown handlers in the buttons, cards stack scripts
of the palette) the message is always passed to the stack (the one
calling the
Hi List (2),
I'm finishing an app with 2.3.2 that will ship on CD-ROM
and is supposed to send emails (among other things).
I was thinking of using the POST command to send request
to a script somewhere on one of our servers (Perl or MChttpd)
that would forward the email to the right
Hi list,
Any idea of when final release for MC 2.4 will be available ?
I'm asking because I have a project that will require heavy use of
images with full transparency, and only 2.4 supports this.
Due to tight production schedule, if I have to simulate this on
2.3.2, I need to start the work
Hi List (3),
I have a problem with a stack I'm finishing on 2.3.2 (Mac) :
I have a jpeg image on layer 1, and on top of that
(layer 2) a group made of various images transparent
buttons performing rollovers card selections.
The problem is : when the mouse rolls over the
transp. btns,
Ken,
Sure - use the computer's native email client, as in:
Thanks for the idea, but it crossed my mind already, and
it doesn't really suits my needs : in that case the end user needs to write
emails by himself...
The app is a kind of catalog in which the user chooses various
items and then
Brian,
Yes, I forgot to tell : all images are imported into the stack and the
always buffer property is set for all images.
The only thing I don't understand is the fact that when I select any
control
just once with the select tool and then go back to browse tool, problem
disapears... The bas
Message -
From: jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Flickering problem with a stack
Hi List (3),
I have a problem with a stack I'm finishing on 2.3.2 (Mac) :
I have a jpeg image on layer 1, and on top of that
(layer 2) a group
Hi people,
I have a few VERY URGENT questions - sorry for being so
demanding...
I am finishing an MC app (2.3.2) that will run on Mac Win
and will be distributed on a CD-ROM.
QUESTION 1 :
At the some point, the app will need to launch the default browser
to open an HTML file located on one
Hi,
How can I open a substack, rearrange (by script) various controls
on it, and then print it, without ever disokaying it on screen ?
Is there any special parameter associated with the open stack
command that I missed ?
Thanks.
JB
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And hopefully the last one, as the CD-ROM I'm working on
is planed to go to duplication plant on monday...
Here's the problem :
I have 2 standalones, actually the french english versions of the
same app (FR.EXE and UK.EXE), both in the same directory
(at top level of the CD-ROM).
I want the
Hi people,
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who offered
solutions to my previous questions.
Now I'm meeting a problem with QT movies in 2.4 :
players get shrinked in height. Here's what I mean :
if I have a player of 320 (w) x 240 (h)
with the filename set by script to a .MOV file,
as
Ken Ray a écrit:
Did you set the lockLocationi of the player object to true?
I tried both options (true false), among many other things
(like setting the filename of the player, as well as its height
width every time I want to start it), but problem remains...
BTW I forgot to mention
Hi folks,
I completed yesterday (evening late) a big project with
several stacks featuring lots of imported graphics etc on 2.3.
The whole thing weights 30 Mb as a standalone.
It features several stacks (only 1 opened at a time, destroy
stack on close selected on each stack etc...).
Hi again folks,
Some of you might remember the question I asked
about 12 days ago about opening processes under
Windoze.
I made some more investigations on this topic, and
it looks like on Mac, processes can be opened (and
apps launched) by a MC standalone, and when it
quits, all apps
Hi list,
I need to draw a line 'on the fly' between 2 points whose
coordinates x,y will appear at random on a card.
At first I thought I could use a graphic control : it works
very well except for graphic quality : aliasing produces ugly
lines that don't fit with the rest of the graphics on the
(or other application)
Using this technique it is possible to decouple the launched application
from your stack.
This behavior has bugged me ever since I started MC to launch external
applications. Thanks to list member JBV (sorry, I don't know this person's
name) I've built out a workaround
Hi list,
I already posted that question a few months ago, but am
wondering if anyone has done any new experiments in
that field : I'm working on the idea of a web app made of
a MC standalone, but because of the content purpose
of that app, re-shaping it as a screen saver would be
much cooler...
Phil Davis :
(To test it, you could add a beep or 'put CLOSING ' statement in the handler and
see if anything new happens upon close.)
Although it's a clever suggestion, I find it quite funny (and refreshing) that ppl
use statements as simple as beep to check if anything happens...
Jus like
How can I restart a Mac from within a MC script ?
Should I use applevents, and send quit to the Finder
or something similar ?
Thanks.
JB
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Hi folks,
I'm presently working on a project for which I'd like to
get some suggestions (at least for 1 part of it)...
Emails will be received several times a day at a specific
address. Each email will feature an attached file (actually
a tab-return set of data).
What I need to do is : every
Hi,
I am writing for a client an installation procedure
to install a MC standalone + the data folder from
a CDROM to the end user HD (on Windows).
The client also wants an alias to be automatically
installed on the desktop.
How can this be done from a MC script ?
Thanks
JB
andu :
create alias x to file y
Well, I tried that already, but sadly it doesn't work...
Actually, it does create a file on the desktop, but the
target of the alias / shortcut is missing, and when
I doubleclick on it nothing happens (at least on Win98).
What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks
JB
Sorry if I'm late on this thread.
Shortly, here's what I'm presently doing with mc cgi.
There's a rally going on in the desert of south Marocco
(for more detail : http://www.tropheeaichadesgazelles.com/)
Each vehicle features a GPS system. GPS data are sent via
satellite, then via email (as
Shari,
Please, don't speak or think like that. There are no differences, betwin
boys and girls, in the logical abilities scope. Don't listen for the
ones that says or think otherwise ;-)
Agreed : quite often, boys can get as stupid as girls...;-)
JB
Hi list,
Has anyone tried to build a DLL/external to link
MC with openGL ?
The idea is pretty straightforward : one should be
able to call openGL functions and have the result
displayed in the standard mc window.
I really need this feature for a project I'm working
on at the moment, so any link
Hi,
After the enthusiasm triggered by my suggestion to have
built-in access to openGL, I am wondering :
is there any chance to see that feature added to MC in a
near future, or is it wiser to start working on a DLL /
external ?
Thanks.
JB
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Is it lineoffset, or is it :
put j tab line thisLine of bigList return after mergedList
I vaguely recall some discussion about adding new lines at the end of
a variable inside a loop, and the loop getting slower slower...
I'm even pretty
Nice to know you're thinking ahead, Scott -- I can hardly wait to get started
writing systems with multiple gigabyte-plus scripts! ;-)
--
I was wondering : when compared to my projects made with
HC and OMO between 1987 and 96, the size of my current
projects under MC has increased (mainly
Does anyone have a script to removing HTML from a string/chunk/whole file?
I think the following is safer, coz I've often seen javascript code
after the body :
function html2text htmlRaw
# trim all html tag
put offset(body,htmlRaw) into bodyStart
if bodyStart 0 then
delete char 1
Very interesting promising attempt.
The problem however seems to be aliasing
of the rendered graphics.
Is there any way to improve that ?
I didn't have much time to spend on this,
so I simply tried to increase the number
of steps in the Bezier computation, but
the final graphic gets all messed
I made a couple of small improvements to the
bezier handler (see code below) :
1) the number of steps for the bezier curve
is stored in a variable Nsteps
2) successive duplicates in the list of points
for the graphic are removed
Anyway, I tried to modify / increase the # of
steps for the
Hi list,
First I want to point out that I've read the archives
and am aware of Scott's advice to not use a repeat
loop inside a mousedown handler, but to use
mousemove / mouserelease instead.
However, I'm facing a problem for which using
a repeat loop inside a mousedown seems to be the
only
I already tried that : problem was the same.
JB
I used
a procedure similar to this once but instead of:
repeat until the mouse
is up
I used:
repeat while the mouse
is down
I do not recall ever experiencing
a problem with it not stopping to scroll. You might try that just
to see if it
Hi all,
Is there a way, from within a MC script, to open the
default email client (I know how to do that) AND to
have a new email window automatically opened
WITH a certain file automatically attached to that
message ?
Or may be is there a way to do that with the SMPT
protocol with libURL (I've
Well hot soup, that sounds like some good stuff.
Screenshots, examples, anything would be interesting to see. Is the
speed really acceptable, and is it drawing this directly in a
MetaCard window?
I'm somewhat more than busy right now finishing a couple of
CD-ROMs, and the guy with whom
Well, I'm actually a bolding guy in his 40's
So, you were once meek, but are now getting bolder as you get older? :)
Yoop !
Balding guy, that's what I meant...
JB
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The only way i know to simulate this kind of stuffs under IPV4 is to use
the server-side cgi or app to store some parameters in a server-side
file witch can be tested by a on-idle alike command working on the
client-side app. I never tested this successfully before in using a
web-based app
Hi list,
The demo of an external / DLL bridging the gap
between MC and openGL is available at :
http://www.netchampagne.com/demoopengl/
It should remain there for 1 or 2 weeks.
It's a 1.64 Mb zip archive, featuring a MC standalone
and a DLL. So far, it's only Win32 compatible.
Once unzipped, to
Ken Ray wrote :
What's the minimum requirements in your opinion to get decent performance?
Performance depends mostly on openGl code
(number of vertices, etc), not on the DLL itself
which only passes data to the openGL libraries.
The last few days we've been experimenting on
a K16 CPU at
Hi folks,
The info slips my mind right now...
Could someone remind me which MC version
was the first to allow the use of a PNG img as
a source for non-rectangular odd shaped cards,
and what is the name of the associated property ?
Thanks in advance,
JB
Hi everyone,
Is there a way to know (by script)
when a standalone becomes the active
app in the foreground (on Windoze
Mac) ?
Thanks,
JB
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Hi again,
I still have a problem when tracking mouse
keyboard events on Windoze when a QT
movie is playing : all events are kind of buffered
and processed only when the movie has come
to its end...
It's rather disturbing, especially in apps where
users are allowed to grab moving objects while
Hi list,
How do I use setregistry when a key features more than 1 value ?
I'm somewhat puzzled coz after some web search, I found different
infos :
- some ppl say that the Windows registry should contain several
times the same entry with a different value for each
- others say that the same
Hi everybody,
Sorting a variable made of various lines with several items
in each line with the sort command is easy :
sort lines of Myvariable by item 2 of each
But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several
hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of
line 4
Thank you all for your help suggestions.
Unfortunately, none of them helped solving
my problem...
Below you'll find a few more info on what
I'm trying to do, comments on some suggestions
and finally some feature requests for future versions
of MC.
Basically, I need to sort a variable featuring 5
Hello again,
I have a rather odd request regarding the installation
of MC on a server running Apache for CGI applications,
both from standard web pages and from MC standlones.
MC has been installed on 2 of our servers several months
ago and I've used it successfully for a couple of projects
and
Pierre,
It's, basicaly, two ways you can install mc to have it running behind
Apache.
1.- As a simple cgi engine : just drop the mc engine where you want (but
not in a directory where any bad guy will expect to find it) and add the
right path head your mc-cgi scripts, alike #!/the
://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks Comments
Thank you all for your help suggestions.
Unfortunately, none of them helped solving
my problem...
Below
Pierre Andu ,
andu a écrit :
When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they work...
I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with
plain html.
Allo Andu,
I agree with you. Most browser-side problems are happening in parsing
..js
Richard,
When I run the WebMerge tutorial here on the slowest machine I have (Win 95,
300MHz), it generates the tutoprial pages in 3.9 seconds. I have a
customer running Win98 on a 1.7GHz maxchine and the same files take 4
minutes to process.(!)
Does your customer have things like Kazaa
BTW in the EPStoMetacard stack (I'm not sure
I'm using the last version though), and more
specifically in the bezier handler, is there a way
to modify the equations used to get x values (and
the corresponding y values) EQUALLY SPACED
on the x axis ?
Oviously, it has to do with the way v1 and v2
I managed to compile an external into a CODE
ressource and place it into mchelp.mc, just as
indicated in the ReadMe file under system 9.
So I'm happy, but still have a practical question
though : if I modify the C source code and
recompile it, it seems that Code Warrior refuses
to simply replace
in your last email, but if that new
solution is really computationally intensive,
I guess I'll stick with linear interpolation which
isn't too slow after all...
By the way jbv, you made a demostration of openGL
in MetaCard. Are you going to keep working in
this demo? or Abandoned the idea
Alejandro,
Tonight, I test your handler and I'm getting
two list of points. But in the first list,
the X coordinate is the same for all the
numbers of the list!
What I'm doing wrong?
Maybe this part is the problem. It returns the
same number.
-- INITIALIZES step value AND fixed x
Thank you all for your kind answers and wise
recommendations to test the standalone on a
Windoze machine before releasing it.
But actually the reason why I decided to build
the Win standalone on a Mac is because I'm
facing another problem : a Win standalone
built on an XP machine doesn't launch
Hi list,
Although I don't have much time to spend on this
project these days, I managed to build an external
for accessing openGL on Mac. Since it's Carbon
compatible, it should run on OS8.6 to OSX (haven't
tested it on OSX though).
As I already achieved something similar on Win32
a few months
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