I have an extra piece of mifflin from meteorite man Steve Arnold. .627 grams
along with his card and provenance. Highest offer over $50 its yours. I would
like a complete mifflin stone to complement my other slice but dont think I
will find it lol. Email off list if interested. Cheers Steve
Hello All,
If we require in-situ photos, the next con-artist could simply drop
the stones on their lawn (wherever that might be) and snap some photos
before selling their stones with provenance. Or maybe the fake
material will be placed in front of a recognizable landmark in the
strewn-field
anybody got a link to what happened before with this man and why he was
removed as I don't recall it.
added to the blacklist for your current silence and refusal to name
the Mifflin fraudster
Jim Brady
IMCA 2424
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suppose we can only protest with where we decide to buy from but there
is a wider issue here with the IMCA
This leaves a really dirty taste in my mouth
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Hello Jim,
My thoughts as well.
Carl, what are your comments surrounding this matter?
-Walter Branch
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From: jim_brady...@o2.co.uk
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:21 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Carl Esparza removed from IMCA
Jim, This is one of the issues that has lead to my self-resignation from the
IMCA (mostly I cannot justify spending $25 bucks to an organization that will
not openly post their financial statement yearly as I have openly requested now
for years- this speaks volumes to me about honesty and
List, Habib,
and Darkangel will also give in Ensisheim a talk describing his method.
I am right now personally involved with Darkangel (whom we here also
use to call Magnetix though his name is Guy Verlooven) in many
experiments to test his method with hundreds of certified meteorites,
If IMCA is supposed to be for collectors, how does being an IMCA member
help with selling?? Shouldn't there be an IMSA then??
However, as I read through the IMCA website, it is more about
selling/trading...
I collect only, but it doesn't look like I would be able to join since I
don't sell
Hi Elizabeth and List,
Before I say anything - everyone here should thank Jason Utas for
investigating and exposing this fraud on his own time with his own
money. He did not have to do that, but he did so because he cares
about meteorites and honor. Microprobe results do not lie. My hat is
off
What a mess.
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Wow,
I am not going to offer any long winded excuses here. I knew the minute my
phone rang a few weeks ago that this was not going to go well.
Imagine yourself enjoying a relaxing evening when your phone rings and it is
Jason on the other end? Having never met this boy a call in and of itself
It didn't come from Mifflin. I bet $100 it is a chergach bought at Tucson in
feb 2010 and sold to you as mifflin for a 1000% markup.
Stop worrying about new find. Mifflin was very wet place. That stone is from
Africa.
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
On May 8, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Greg
Once again, now you all know why we did not open the Whetstone Mountains fall
to everyone. The landowners did not want many people out there, no cameras and
TV shows, no quads, no problems of any kind, and that is what we promised and
delivered on.
We had no bull%$%$, no thefts, no scams,
Hi Listers:
Recently we had an article in The New York Times about our hobby. Now we
have this. Better smarten up folks or our little
hobby will fall into a very nasty pit full of other kind of fraudsters.
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
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Dear Members of the MetList and IMCA:
Over the last month or so there have been quite a few different concerns
brought up on these two forums and others. I would like to make a few
generalized comments touching base on a few of them. It appears that
desperate times will spawn desperate acts
Dear Members of the MetList and IMCA:
Over the last month or so there have been quite a few different concerns
brought up on these two forums and others. I would like to make a few
generalized comments touching base on a few of them. It appears that
desperate times will spawn desperate acts by a
Well said Greg. I don't think any rational person can argue what you just said.
You used a word prefessional. I think it was a typo, but it
actually fits some dealers in some circumstances.
Not all of us have the financial means or the physical opportunities
to travel the world and do hunting
Carl said: This stone was found in Wisconsin
How do you know that for sure Carl?Where you there?Have you visited the person
who found it?
Sounds weak to me.
Greg S.
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 02:58:42 -0400
From: cdtuc...@cox.net
To:
Hi Elizabeth and List,
Before I say anything - everyone here should thank Jason Utas for
investigating and exposing this fraud on his own time with his own
money. He did not have to do that, but he did so because he cares
about meteorites and honor. Microprobe results do not lie. My hat
G'Day List
The first natural occurrence of a low-pressure CaAl2O4 mineral has been
found in a refractory inclusion in a carbonaceous chondrite meteorite.
http://www.hawaii.edu/news/article.php?aId=4415
Cheers
John Cabassi
imca 2125
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Jason Utas have put in discussion my first find of Lido Di Venezia meteorite
where he have say its a meteorite from the desert. Now we are under take a
analysis for confirm the age of this meteorite, and just for stop some wrong
questions some persons put around internet. If he continue to
I too want to thank Jason for his time. That said, PLEASE... anyone who has
questions about material from me or anyone else, if/when you do, please contact
the person with the material. If Jason had contacted me originally instead of
the IMCA, I would have supplied him with a sample to have
Hi List
I have for sale an ex-lib. copy of Krinov's Principles of
Meteoritics (English translation, 1960). Inside covers and spine
have usual markings (see photographs) but rest of book is clean - no
marks or tears.
For pictures please see:
Hello
First close photos of specimen. Its type H or rather strong L type. Its too
early to know it. Becouse of wet weather there are first signs of rust :(
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/soltmany1.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/soltmany2.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/soltmany3.jpg
Specimen
List:
I would like to add some additional information regarding the Mifflin I
purchased in June of last year. I bought a 7 gram piece off of ebay. I quickly
asked where it came from as I wanted to know for my collection and the email is
shown below.
An ~80 piece found on Shephard Road???
Contact: Kristin Friedrich
kfrie...@nhm.org
213-763-3532
Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
May 6, 2011
Paper announces discovery of 1 of earliest minerals formed in solar system
New mineral named krotite, found in meteorite, is described in
American Mineralogist
In the May-June
May 09, 2011
J.D. Harrington/Michael Braukus
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-5241/1979
j.d.harring...@nasa.gov/michael.j.brau...@nasa.gov
Brandi Dean
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-244-1403
brandi.k.d...@nasa.gov
RELEASE: 11-141
ENGINEERING TESTS
Hi Shawn, Chris and all,
Buried beneath this recent Mifflin mess was Shawn's latest Pop Quiz and
question from Chris S.concerning the first ANSMET meteorite. I, also, thought
Mount Baldr was the first. Was this a trick question? Seems there were more
than one who said ALH 76001, so I'm a bit
Hi List,
Has anyone ever put together a hardness list for meteorites in
relation to the Mohs scale?
I know that irons, stony-irons, friable types (some achondrites, LL's)
will vary greatly in hardness. But what I am curious about is stony
type meteorites, specifically the chondrite family. For
Hello Matteo, All,
Actually, Matteo, I recall that thread well. When Mark Bostick and
others questioned your find, you, instead of defending your own
honesty, you publicly accused all American hunters of seeding the
Southwest. .
List,
I am told that I need to add a few details to my defense of selling this
possible second (odd) looking lithology of Mifflin.
I must admit that I am a bit shocked how quick some people are to be judge ,
jury and executioner all in one swift swoop.
Way back when this first started selling
Hi List. Again for those Newbie Collectors and those who just want a
refresher course on understanding the in and outs and do's and don'ts of
collecting meteorites please check out my eBay Meteorite Info page on my
Website. (Link Below) Even though this page uses eBay as a pathway to
Carl:
Ok
What is the TKW of this new lithology?
Do you have a Map of where it's been found?
Do you have any documentation at all??
Greg S.
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:05:10 -0400
From: cdtuc...@cox.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
I also sent in Mount Baldr??
Kirk.:-)
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Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer
Hi Shawn, Chris and all,
Buried beneath this
Carl said:
Greg assured me that Dave Gheesling was already aware of this second lithology
and it was definitely being found at Mifflin strewnfield
Now that's a big accusation to make:
Greg C, is this correct??
Man, this is growing so many tentacles I'm starting to get smothered.
Greg
I do not believe in the the secondary fall on the same site tale or a
completely different lithology from the same fall. No H and L types were
found mixed together in any laboratory in regards to a real Mifflin stone and
many have been studied.
Until the nameless, faceless phantom is
Hi All, Just a quick update from out in the field. My Wife Terri I had to
do a biz trip to Ca to teach flying. So I made arrangements to add a few
weeks of meteorite hunting in on the trip. We started out with blizzard
conditions at lake bed #1. Two nights the temp dipped to 15 then 17
There are two Mifflin listed on EBay right now. Are these now suspect?
Chris. Spratt
Victoira, BC
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Team Meteorite:
My friend Gonzalo Pereira, an astronomer in La Paz, Bolivia and the
curator of Colecion de Meteoritos Blaine Reed has sent me these
links to videos of something falling through the night sky in NW
Bolivia around April 2. The YouTube video appeared on the national
news. The TV
Reminds me of the Columbia breakup.
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:27:54 -0600
From: mars...@gmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Something in the air...
Team Meteorite:
My friend Gonzalo Pereira, an astronomer in La Paz, Bolivia and the
curator of
Looks like space junk re-entry to me. Compare to video of the re-entry
of a space cargo ship:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRI2aP6Gxz0feature=fvsr
-Yinan
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote:
Team Meteorite:
My friend Gonzalo Pereira, an astronomer in La
Kirk, Carl2, Chris, and who ever else :)
As for the question it wasn't a trick. I can see from many sources that they
both say ALH76001 was found in Dec 76 and also Mount Baldr in Dec 76. Chris
also had provided a link to a site which stated that the Mount Baldr was found
in Dec 76 a month
Shawn:
Is Yamato 691 the very first ever found in Antartica? It was 1969.
Greg S
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 16:46:05 -0700
From: photoph...@yahoo.com
To: carloselgua...@hotmail.com; ba...@chorus.net; cspr...@islandnet.com
CC:
The first meteorite to be found in Antarctica was Adelie Land. Found
in 1912 by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition. An L5 stone of 2.2 lbs
Chris. Spratt
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In the first video You have comment like this:
Video is from space debris from Russian rocket. Video of a Russian rocket
body bursting into flames as it re-enters the atmosphere over Colorado.
Denver Colorado TV KDVR
and I think its just correct answer. This looks like re-entry of space
Greg assured me that Dave Gheesling was already aware of this second
lithology and it was definitely being found at Mifflin strewnfield.
Hello Carl, Greg All,
I haven't been following this thread, but the above sentence was just
brought to my attention and it needs a quick response.
One, I
Dear List
i have some Meteorites verry interesting for study it is H 5 W 2
the material has been moderately transformed. The chondrules have reformed into
less distinct shapes . if interested feel free to contact me offlist
for the (pictures and price)
M F
phon +212663398272
I think, but I am not sure, that Shawn's question was not What is the
first meteorite found in Antarctica?. I think he was asking what was
the first meteorite found by ANSMET.
Best regards,
MikeG
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Galactic Stone
Yamato 691 was recoverd before the ANSMET was founded.
excerpt from Meteorite, Ice, and Antarctica
At that time, Dr. Mort Turner was Program Manager for Geology
at the former Division of Polar Programs (now known as Office
of Polar Programs), and I had gotten to know him in the course of
Dear List, Enjoy the vittles!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPwfeature=fvwkrel
Best Always in Life, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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A lot of my recent postings on ANSMET are from old resources and my
memory. The Japanese were not looking for meteorites per say but
rocks, a few of these rocks turned out to be meteorites. After
that both countries sort of agreed to share hunting resources.
Chris Spratt
(Via my iPhone)
Terri, Scott Sundance
Thank you for the outline of your trek. Sounds like everyone had a great
trip, even the sledgehammer had a good time.
In a past life, i've had some aerobatic experiences in a composite German
Grob, supposedly rated @ 13g's. The most i ever saw was 6-7 and then saw
grey.
While this is certainly space debris, it isn't the KDVR video of the
Soyuz SL-4 decay over Colorado on 4 January 2007.
http://www.cloudbait.com/science/fireball20070104.html
Chris
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On 5/9/2011 6:07
Hi List, and Mike G.
Gosh, there were two words in Mike G.'s post below that struck a nerve, ones
that none of us want to feel:
government bureaucrats. (I refuse to capitalize them.)
That would be the last thing we need. We cannot have honor and integrity
replaced by regulation, laws and
Greg S,
You now have as much information as i do. that was my point.
Carl
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Meteoritemax
Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:
Carl:
Ok
What is the TKW of this new lithology?
Do you have a Map of where it's been found?
Do you have any
Me too.
--- On Mon, 5/9/11, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote:
From: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ Fridays Answer
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, May 9, 2011, 3:55 PM
I also sent in Mount Baldr??
Kirk.:-)
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PS - Got sick of backtracking this thread already, but simply put, Carl,
don't put words in my mouth -- and don't do the same via third party either.
Have a nice day.
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com
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Not if they are listed by Todd Parker, Chris.
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com
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Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:11 PM
To:
Just a clarification of the word breccia. A breccia is a rock that
contains distinct chunks or clasts. If the clasts are all of the same
lithology and the host is the same lithology as the clasts, the rock
is a monomict breccia. If the clasts or hosts are from different
meteorite
Hello list,
I am curious if anyone has ever observed an iron meteorite with a
widmanstatten pattern on the outside or I guess what would be the
outside or a weathered iron meteorite? I have a very small SaW 005
that shows the patten after cleaning with a mild vinegar solution,
under the
Thanks for this post, Dr. Rubin. Sent my earlier comments too quickly, and
was more focused on the fact that list members like you should be commenting
on these sorts of things anyway -- and that private collectors shouldn't be
quoted (misquoted, in this event, or actually quoted when no prior
Chris and Listers
That's is true the US and Japanese team teamed up in 76 when ANSMET was first
formed.
Down below is a write up of the agreement with the two teams quoted from
Meteorites, Ice, and Antarctica by William A Cassidy
The US–Japan
agreement
Text of the memorandum that served as
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