Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-10 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
I am not interested in starting another pairing wars argument. The archive is full of these discussions. In the past, I pointing out those who were self-pairing, piggy-backing and stealing nomenclature from official classifications I was involved with. Many dealers thought they were entitled

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2017-10-10 Thread Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
You say"It is up to dealers to prove what they are selling is legitimate, not collectors/buyers after the transaction. Why should a buyer have to ask for provenance and the chain of custody directly to the person named in a Meteoritical Bulletin? It is up to dealers to provide this

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-10 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis Dear List; Not to stir the pot ( used to be real good at it), There is room for a legal battle most likely when one starts pointing fingers

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2017-10-10 Thread David Freeman via Meteorite-list
ot;metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis I have been getting several requests to name the dealers engaged in less than honest business practices.  I have publicly called out those who

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-09 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
ber 09, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis I have been getting several requests to name the dealers engaged in less than honest business practices. I have publicly called out those who violated the sanctity of meteorites I was involved with in the past b

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-09 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis I have been getting several requests to name the dealers engaged in less

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-09 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
I have been getting several requests to name the dealers engaged in less than honest business practices. I have publicly called out those who violated the sanctity of meteorites I was involved with in the past by self-pairing and piggy-backing material I placed on the market. At one point,

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-09 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
It is up to dealers to prove what they are selling is legitimate, not collectors/buyers after the transaction. Why should a buyer have to ask for provenance and the chain of custody directly to the person named in a Meteoritical Bulletin? It is up to dealers to provide this information up

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-09 Thread Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
I'm afraid it works the other way round too Adam...you would have to have a piece analysed by an expert to say what you are saying rather than just look at the pieces to see and conclude what they are. Every single piece of my lunar has been to the leading lab specializing in meteorites in the UK

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2017-10-08 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
A lot of the garbage being sold as lunar meteorites by so-called reputable dealers will not even pass the fizz test. http://geology.com/minerals/acid-test.shtml Collectors are being fleeced out of thousands of dollars by terrestrial limestone breccias, some of which can be found in the Atlas

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2017-10-08 Thread Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list
Francesco, Just found another reference to Lunar rock 12039 by Bunch (not a meteorite) and I stand corrected. It has a bulk SiO2 of 47.3 % and also Calcalong Creeks bulk chemestry of SiO2 is actually 47.18. So, actually, Well within the Lunar range. I'd get it tested. see link below

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2017-10-07 Thread Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list
Francesco, This puts the Fe/Mn ratio at 74.84. This is indeed within the Lunar range of the most famous lunar meteorite "Calcalong Creek". I possess the results of the actual study and the range based on various samples ranges from 67.3 to 72 so, that does not rule it out as being Lunar. The

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
ritecentral.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2017 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis Fake, unstudied and untested material which accounts for, in my opinion, well over 50% of the material currently running on eBay has become such a problem that it forced

Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
Fake, unstudied and untested material which accounts for, in my opinion, well over 50% of the material currently running on eBay has become such a problem that it forced me to write the following guide: There is so much unstudied and fake material being sold as “lunar” meteorites these days

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2017-10-06 Thread Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list
EhEhEh sure! xx Francesco Da: Alfredo Petrov [mailto:alfr...@mindat.org] Inviato: venerdì 6 ottobre 2017 13:52 A: Francesco Moser Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto: Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis Well, we would have all

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2017-10-06 Thread Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list
AhAhAh amazing! a chunk of some kind of man made glass :) I don't think about this possible solution of the enigma! Thanks! xx Francesco -Messaggio originale- Da: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Per conto di Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list

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2017-10-06 Thread Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list
Sure! I agree with you! The stone now is under more detailed analysis! Thanks! xx Francesco -Messaggio originale- Da: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Per conto di Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list Inviato: venerdì 6 ottobre 2017 18:00 A: metlist

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2017-10-06 Thread Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list
I forget Mn, sorry! MnO 0.13% Thanks xx Francesco -Messaggio originale- Da: cdtuc...@cox.net [mailto:cdtuc...@cox.net] Inviato: venerdì 6 ottobre 2017 15:50 A: Francesco Moser Cc: Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list