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Hello Sabrina,
This is indeed great news. My personal prayers will continue for Walter's
ongoing rapid recovery to full health.
Gary K. Foote
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HI everyone
..look what I got!
http://tinyurl.com/2pjngj
enjoy!
Dave
IMCA #0092
Sec.BIMS
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WOW Dave! that seems to be a complete euhedral crystal
Is that a spinel, magnetite, chromite? Regardless
perfect crystal growth like this in a meteorite is
ultrarare.
Is this one of the pyroxene bearing pallasites?
Inquiring minds.
Really interesting piece, Congratulations.
Elton
--- Dave
Dear listees,
please find attached a recent press release from THE HINDU news press.
The report of the incident mentiones a crater but no sound and light phenomena
before the blast. To me it rather seems that a mislead Pakistani (or Indian)
artillery shell is the culprit but I'am open to other
I agree with Michael Blood's position that the public posting of final
auction prices is a bad idea. Auction prices are NOT an indication of true
market values, either high or low.
Jim
Michael Farmer Wrote:
This is simple auction procedure. I will post my list
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers
I have auctions ending tonight catchafallingstar.com. Most started at 99
Cents!!!:
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com
Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website:
Hello List,
here is an German article about the killer ;)
http://onnachrichten.t-online.de/c/10/32/12/96/10321296.html
Best greetings,
Carsten.
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Boy, that one sure resembles Admire.
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HI everyone
..look what I got!
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enjoy!
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It's wonderful!
Rob Elliott has lent it to BIMS for a science fair that Mark I are doing
later this month. I'm the one in the lovely purple gloves and for some
reason appear to be staring down my nose at the camera.
Lots of sulphide veins in it - apparently this is unique amongst pallasites.
I
Hi Jim, list,
I disagree. What concerns all important international auction houses the
public posting of auction results is a matter of course.
Auction prices are of course no indication of true market values: they a r
e definitely a certain manifestation of market values themselves.
With photo.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17825098BRD=1719PAG=461dept_id=25271rfi=6
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Not mine - Rob Elliott's - it's on loan for a show, but yep - that xl took a
lot of looking at too - personally I think it is terrestrial. Under the
scope the xl is embedded in the loose, almost Caliche type weathering on the
very crust - it would need XRDing to check it out but I think it is a
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200702081568.htm
Suspected meteorite kills two nomads
The Hindu (India)
February 8, 2007
Jaipur, Feb. 8 (PTI): A suspected meteorite claimed the
lives of two nomads and injured five others today at
Banchola village in Rajasthan's Bundi district, police
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17825098BRD=1719PAG=461dept_id=25271rfi=6
Couple thinks meteorite landed near home
By NICK LUCCHESI
The Telegraph (Illinois)
February 8, 2007
MEADOWBROOK - An unexpected meteor shot across Midwestern skylines
Sunday night, and a retired couple thinks
While I agree with you in principle for big professional auction houses, you
need to attend an auction in Denver or Tucson before reserving judgement.
Some of them are very informal and not like a normal auction situation.
In at least one auction that I attended, the procecure is unlike a
There's no proof of existence of normal and unnormal auctions.
The principle of auction is very clear and internationally accepted, any
auction is per definitionem a special form of finding out the market values
of things. The final publication of auction results as confirmation of this
value
Hi Jim and All,
I also go to an auction and it is the same as you describe.
I think if you have to wait until all the auction is done, it is simply
because there isn't enough staff.
At the auction I attend, there is two auctioneers that take turns and then
about three people helping with
Obviously, a lack of staff results in less than optimum customer service.
Perhaps spending an extra $100- to hire someone to check out bidders who
want to leave would have a positive impact on the auction results as a
whole. I personally know of at least two collectors who refused to attend
As far as I'm concerned, that is not a pyrite crystal, it has the wrong
form for pyrite.
But it is the right form for a spinel group mineral (magnetite, spinel,
chromite, ...).
Magnetite is also a common mineral. Here in Sweden I wouldn't be
surprised by finding a small crystal like that in
At our club auctions, we take a break in the middle to allow those wanting
to leave to check out early.
We have two people cross-checking winning bids and accepting payment while
another member volunteer picks up the items won. We don't allow people to
pick up their own items because sometimes
Hi once more,
I don't agree with this position simply because isn't that why one goes to
an auction?
Too deal and get a deal.
So if you display the prices it should not matter at all.
Actually I would think, what a steal people got purchasing the meteorites
for a low price and if I look for a
Dear List,
Michael Blood's position is well known, and I wouldn't even dream of
trying to change his mind!
However, I can't imagine why the rest of us wouldn't want to have
every bit of available information when making buying or selling
decisions.
Do some of you believe that we aren't
Hello Matthias, Jim, Dirk and List,
I agree with Matthias that the Lang auction results should be posted to this
List since such blatant acts of falsely reported stolen lots were
reported. That, and the many ending hammer prices compared to what absentee
bidders were told was their winning
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272611461.shtml
Carolina UFO Sightings Continue: Strange Lights Spotted Again
By Gene Byrd
National Ledger
February 8, 2007
A few weeks ago, strange blue lights filled the skies over Carolina
and the sightings caused a frenzy of calls and
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:10:29 -0500, you wrote:
heads in the sand and ignore this. A black eye has been placed upon the
meteorite collecting world like no other time. We need to expose it for all
it is. If this is left unchecked, old collectors will drop and new
collectors will go collect
Auctions are where you would hope to get bargains, and not pay market value.
Isn't Ebay an auction?
Cheers,
Pete
From: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AUCTION RESULTS - Blood and Lang
Date:
I am going to make this as short as I can, I am still
selling in my room in Tucson.
I will list lot # Meteorite name and hammer sale
price.
#1 Andover $840.00
#2 Bandong NO SALE
#3 Banten $390.00
#4 Benguerir NO SALE
#5 Bilanga $2200.00
#6 Bjormole Sold to Achim Karl in room $260.00
#7
#51 Pultusk $4625 sold to Achim
#52 Quenggouk $180
#53 Richardton $7500
#54 St Michel $450
#55 Sylacauga $1525
#56 Tenham $800
#57 Trenzano Sold to Achim in room $850
#58 Tuxtuac $750
#59 Udei Station NO SALE
#60 Vernon County $255
#61 Villa Natamoros $950
#62 Warrenton $700
#63
Mike Farmer,
This so much really needed to be done. Thanks for stepping up to the
plate, even though you may receive vocal criticism from some. I'm
sure those that are appreciative will out number those who oppose by
at least 10 to one, even if they aren't so vocal.
Thanks
Mike Fowler
Hi Peter,
Yes, eBay is a GREAT place to get awesome bargains for anything from
fragments all the way up to large museum quality specimens, from reputable
dealers and collectors alike! Like other auctions, eBay does have its share
of frauds to look out for!
Best regards,
Greg
Mike and everyone else, I do not want to be in the
middle of this. I am running a business at the show. I
did Al and Achim a favor (I thought) by reporting
stolen pieces. I did not know the firestorm that would
follow. I have had at least 50 requests for prices
from 50 people, I don't have time to
Has anyone had any dealings with Chuck Julian? His website is
fallingstars.com and he is presently selling a Brahin on ebay; he is
completely unknown to me, I've never seen anything offered by him before and
I know nothing about him, the way he does business, or anything else. He
says he was
Hi Mike, list,
Mike's reported hammer prices will probably shed more shadow than light on
that famous auction.
While we are at trying to clear all points, here are some of my own amazements.
I have put 11 absentee bids and four of them turned to be above the hammer
prices. These are:
Item
All this discussion has convinced me that perhaps I have been looking at the
posting of auction hammer prices incorrectly. I now SUPPORT the posting of
the prices.
However, I do feel that they should be posted by the people actually running
the auction as an OFFICIAL record of the auction
Yes, that is a typo I made, the Hanmmer on the Khohar
was $495.00 and Achim did not win it, my mistake, I
was in a hurry to get the list out.
Mike
--- Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mike, list,
Mike's reported hammer prices will probably shed
more shadow than light on
that
Jim wrote All this discussion has convinced me that perhaps I have been
looking at the
posting of auction hammer prices incorrectly. I now SUPPORT the posting of
the prices.
However, I do feel that they should be posted by the people actually running
the auction as an OFFICIAL record of the
First, let me state that I am not trying to throw more coal on this fire... I
have a question for the people at the auction. I purchased Lixna Lot 70 for
$500. I know for fact that the other bidder was absentee bidder Peter Marmet
and his max bid was $450.
In Lang's auction terms it states:
Dear List Members,
Achim Karl asked me to post an email he received today from Iris Lang:
-Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verschickt: Do., 8. Feb. 2007, 10:45
Thema: Tucson auction
Dear Achim Karl,
After the show ended, Allan took the
Sounds like somebody got caught with their hand in the
cookie jar to me! It is interesting that all of the
mistakes are in the dealers favor, talk about making
every bloody nickel scream. I smell greed.
Adam
--- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear List Members,
Achim Karl asked me
Hello Mike,
If your statement is an accurate chain of events, then fraud has been
committed! I would not be happy to have been ripped off, why would anyone
else? I would demand my money back and so should anyone else who has been
duped by any illegal acts.
Like I said in a previous email, if
Hi,
The Bundi District is is the SE portion of
Rajasthan State, more than 200 miles from the
Pakistani border. It is more than 200 miles south
of New Dehli, and far, far from Jammu and
Kashmir, so the stray artillery shell is unlikely,
at least in the context of any military conflict.
Dear Listees:
I thought it might be helpful to mention that Allan and Iris Lang are
on their way home from the 2007 Tucson show, and probably cannot to
reply to posts regarding the auction at this time.
Since Allan has been a respected buyer and seller of meteorites for
more than thirty
Hi Sterling, others,
you are correct. I had in mind other similar incidents where people took
apart ordnance in order to sell the metal for scrap.
Please view this article for a similar report from the Bathinda District
further north.
Hi, List,
I think Svend has hit on the most likely explanation
for this incident.
Sterling K. Webb
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From: Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: Sterling K. Webb
Hi All,
Just got back from the big one.
Haven't come close to reading all my 473 emails, but I am more
convinced than ever that the lack of an additional check out person
at my auction is, indeed, a situation in need of correcting. My plan
for this year fell through at the last
I did NOT volunteer to offer my services for $100- to be your check out
person but I am sure you can find some intelligent college student at the U
of A that would be happy to do the service for a Hundred Bucks and free
beer. (Beer to be consumed after the auction, of course).
Jim Strope
421
the macovich auction---where there was always staff to accommodate
immediate payment property pick-up---is returning to tucson next year.
On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Jim Strope wrote:
I did NOT volunteer to offer my services for $100- to be your check
out
person but I am sure you can
I agree with you whole-heatedly, Greg. If, there is any fraud going on in
this situation I think it is imperative that it be brought to light. Not
everyone likes to look at dirty laundry, but circumstances like this can
affect a great number of people.
Best,
John
At 08:24 PM 2/7/2007, Greg
Mike and List,
Since I don't have a copy of the Lang's Auction Terms available to me,
I'll have to assume that your statement is correct. If that is the case,
and there was no other bid after Peter Marmet's bid of $450, then you
should have paid $460, not $500. You should also receive a
Hi List
Thank you Mike for posting the prices. Zelimir's response highlights
the reason why this information should be public. Absentee bidders and
absentee sellers are at the mercy of the auctioneer and if the auctioneer is
not honest--or made an honest mistake--then the absentee parties
Geoff wrote :
Dear Listees:
I thought it might be helpful to mention that Allan and Iris Lang are
on their way home from the 2007 Tucson show, and probably cannot to
reply to posts regarding the auction at this time.
Since Allan has been a respected buyer and seller of meteorites for
more than
U, Bob, unless you are a complete retard, then
these emails are as telling as it gets. Give me a
break already. The simple fact that the pieces were
reported as stolen and denied to the rightful owner
who was the high bidder in the room and the hammer
price closed on his last bid, then sold to
Finally, a sensible voice amid the tantrum:
Dear Listees:
I thought it might be helpful to mention that Allan and Iris Lang are
on their way home from the 2007 Tucson show, and probably cannot to
reply to posts regarding the auction at this time.
Since Allan has been a respected buyer
Hi Sabrina,
We are glad to hear such good news and we wish Walter a good, speedy
recovery.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
José and Charmaine Campos
Portugal
- Original Message -
From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent:
There is a business reason that runs to the advantage of the
auctioneer
to keep the prices secret. If consigners don't realize that items
sell for
a fraction of normal prices, then they will be more likely to
consign items
to the next auction. If they think they will get very little,
Sorry Mike,
Im just not inclined to believe every single word I read on this list.
FYI - On Sat 2/3/07 I was in one dealers room and asked him to see a
individual of Dhofar 007 that was in his locked case.
When I asked him, he said surprisingly Oh that's where it went. I thought
that had been
Hello Zelimir,
the same here!
Millbillillie went for 1100.00 USD, our maximum bid: 1300.00 USD!!!
Sylacauga went for 1525.00 USD, our maximum bid: 2250.00 USD!!
Tenham went for 800.00 USD, our maximum bid: 1200.00 USD!!!
I made this bids for a friend of mine.
We both are very frustrated!
With the permission of Frederic Beroud I have included his article on his
first trip to Reg Acfer on a meteorite hunting trip. This article was
first published in Meteorite Magazine in 2001. Thank you Frederic!
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/frenchhuntersontrack.html
Gary
Dear List,
Anyone up for the chatroom?
http://meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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A few years ago I suggested to Michael Blood that a collector/dealer buying
a piece for resell may not want his buy price to become public knowledge.
And that some people come to auctions just to watch prices. He liked my
reasoning and withdrew posting that year and since, My bad.
Howard Wu
Dear List
This has been our 12th trip to the Tucson show since 1992 looking for
meteorite specimens for our collection and enjoying a break from the
cold weather in Southern Alberta. We were able to get around to most of
the dealer rooms and saw some incredible specimens. The oriented North
Chile
not many seen they not recognize the Armenian massacre
they have perpetrated
Matteo Nahabedian
--- Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:
After all, they are more civilized than I thought...
- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fred Caillou
Dear List,
I was sent an interesting link about GPR equipment. This is a bit out of
the price range of most persons, but interesting none the less. Dirk
Ross...Tokyo
http://www.kellycodetectors.com/okm/future2005.htm
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a classic moroccan meteorwrong
Matteo
--- A.V.B [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Dear List members
I need to your light, I bought 7 kg of
NWA's individuals and broken directly from Morocco
A specimen is different, no magnetic, please have
look on pictures.
Hello all,
I have just updated the page with descriptions. I seperated each stone and
gave a description of each, where I found it, why I think it is a meteorwrong,
explanations.
I hope this helps everyone, it is much easier to look at and see each one, I
have also added a few more
In a message dated 2/6/2007 4:10:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here's the Kansas report (below). Interesting that it
contains accounts of rumbling and popping noises when
the object being described is likely 400 miles or more away!
It must be an instance of the
Wow!
How accurate this news can be? Is The Hindu newspaper a serious paper or
something like The Inquierer?
Gaetan
2007/2/8, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear listees,
please find attached a recent press release from THE HINDU news press.
The report of the incident mentiones a
Hello
the piece in Modena University its a fake
Matteo
--- Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:
Dear list,
First thanks many of you who sent me the masses of
Ensisheim meteorite
fragments you owe in your collections, for the
compilation we are trying to
achieve since a
Hello,
Please remove my name from this list. Informative but too many emails.
thank you
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Hello Sabrina,
It's good to hear that Walter is making progress in his recovery.
I'm happy to read that Rebekah is now out of harms way, that's very good
news and let just hope that Walter will recover from all this very very
soon.
Gaetan Cormier
Member of the Impact Field Studies Group
Hello,
Please remove my name from this list.. informative but too many emails...
thank you
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I have a very nice fresh complete Allende for sale on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=013sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=230086867654rd=1rd=1
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Hello all,
If everything goes has plan, this summer I should be around in the Northern
Plains, more precisely around Northern Kansas, Nebraska and South Dakota.
I'm planning to bring my metal detector along so I was wondering if theres
any strewnfields in those states that are worth
I am so sorry to hear about Walter. I will keep him, your daughter, and you in
my prayers. Walter was a wonderful informative friend when I began my hobby of
meteorites years ago and helped to steer me clear of a couple of unsavory
dealers. I am truly saddened to hear of the accident.
I agree with Michael Blood's position that the public posting of final auction
prices is a bad idea. Auction prices are NOT an indication of true market
values, either high or low.
Jim
Michael Farmer Wrote:
This is simple auction procedure. I will post my list
Hello list,
I have been really busy taking pictures and adding them to my website. I
have added many photos and descriptions of meteorwrongs, my meteorite
collection, possible new finds, a meteorite photo gallery, many photos from the
Field museum meteorite collection, a meteorite forum with
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_9.html
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:22:51 -0500, you wrote:
Wow!
How accurate this news can be? Is The Hindu newspaper a serious paper or
something like The Inquierer?
Whenever a science-related article is googled up from an Indian newspaper, I get
the feeling that all of their newspapers are like The
Hello ???,
You can remove yourself by clicking on the link below each e-mail, including
this one, if desired. You might however just change the mailing option to a
once a day e-mail.
Clear Skies,
Mark
Hello,
Please remove my name from this list.. informative but too many
emails...
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:37:41 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:22:51 -0500,
you wrote:
Wow!
How accurate this news can be? Is The Hindu newspaper a serious paper or
something like The Inquierer?
Whenever a science-related article is googled
on 2/8/07 6:45 PM, doctor death at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A few years ago I suggested to Michael Blood that a collector/dealer buying
a piece for resell may not want his buy price to become public knowledge.
And that some people come to auctions just to watch prices. He liked my
reasoning
Hello Everyone,
I hope that last round of e-mails has not turned anyone off from attending
Tucson or the like. It is the greatest assembly of meteorite collectors and
dealers and should not be missed if possible. My report on the show will be
coming soon. I hope that other attendees take the
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