On 21/05/2008, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you tried something like this:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-05-15T19:30:00+01:00
span title=Seven Thirty19:30/span
/abbr
Hi Martin,
It's not so much about what to try as the BBC using the hCalendar on
a new, very large site
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 10:26 +0100, Frances Berriman wrote:
On 21/05/2008, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you tried something like this:
abbr class=dtstart title=2008-05-15T19:30:00+01:00
span title=Seven Thirty19:30/span
/abbr
Hi Martin,
It's not so much about
On [May 22], at [ May 22] 7:46 , Martin McEvoy wrote:
Hmm It seems to me that the microformats community seems to find it
difficult to resolve the abbr design issue[1], its been over a year
now?
This is difficult to solve because we lack the resources to do testing
with screen reader
On 22/05/2008, Alasdair King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There has been some testing, that will hopefully be published soon,
but it's not definitive (since there's not much data on how most SR
users have their setups). That's all :)
Sorry, I meant of course I infer that they've tested the
On 22 May 2008, at 17:06, Alasdair King wrote:
From the BBC page linked:
We've looked at quite a few screen readers out of the box and by
default they don't expand abbreviation elements so the user still
hears 19:30 not 2008-05-15T19:30:00+01:00.
I infer that they've tested the screenreaders,
Michael Smethurst wrote:
Of 4 users 2 had abbreviation expansion turned on.
Ah, but what was your sample group? Were they, by any chance,
highly-able professionals, probably with a business interest in web
design and accessibility? Or were they little old ladies using Thunder
or NVDA because
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Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:58:43 +0800
From: Zhang Zhen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] One more shot at accessible hCalendar
To: Microformats Discuss microformats-discuss@microformats.org
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Charles Belov wrote:
span class=humandtstartMay 12, 2008, 5:30pmabbr class=dtstart
title=2008-05-12T17:30:00-0700 style=display:none/abbr/span
Similar to my current compromise:
span class=dtstart
May 12, 2008, 5:30pm
abbr class=value title=2008-05-12T17:30:00-0700
Ben Ward wrote:
I don't think the ‘what's the default‘ argument is an absolute decider
either way with this.
Indeed. Even if no screen readers even *offered* the option of
reading the title attribute of abbreviations, the abbr design pattern
would still be a bad idea. Or rather,having it
I would hate to inflict an ISO date on my sighted readers either.
actually I don't mind sometimes showing people -mm-dd.
The general public does need a bit of education about writing dates clearly!
At least they can't be confused with some other date!
... but on many pages out in the big
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