Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

On 5/3/06 1:19 PM, "Thibaud Elzière" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > The url scheme for localized page seems to be : title-language were > language is the 2 characters language code. Correct. > It is used for the Spanish > translation however "-sp" is used whereas "-es" would have been

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

On 5/3/06 12:19 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 3, 2006, at 1:43 PM, brush wrote: > >> one thought about "role": is it appropriate to re-engineer the >> category >> from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static >> feature (ie. "sales engineer" for a per

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

On 5/3/06 11:43 AM, "brush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks, tantek and others. i will go ahead and start the wiki process > with some of the research i've done already, and will invite you to join > me! > > one thought about "role": is it appropriate to re-engineer the category > from what

Re: localizing dates (was Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML])

On 5/2/06 1:18 AM, "Kevin Marks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One minor thought before we go - I can envisage a javascript that used > the abbr date-pattern to replace dates with user-local ones in the > content, while retaining the machine-friendly ones in the abbr. Localizing dates is a differe

Re: Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML]

On 5/2/06 12:33 AM, "Joe Andrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The idea of mapping between languages however is not as crazy or hard as > some of you think. Joe, that may be, but figuring out and documenting mappings between natural languages is a linguistics research topic far outside the focus

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki

On 5/3/06 4:37 AM, "Rémi Prévost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thibaud Elzière wrote: >> Hello Everybody, >> >> I am new to the list and very interesting in eveything concerning >> micro-format. I would like to translate some missing parts of the wiki >> in french but I am unable to create a new

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

On 5/3/06 5:29 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 3, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Edward Summers wrote: > >> On May 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, brush wrote: >>> *new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class="role") >>> -- could be useful in many other circumstances >> >> If a

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

Welcome "brush"! As someone who has typed up (and published) *numerous) meeting minutes himself, I certainly recognize that this could be a useful microformat. Regarding creating a new microformat, please read the following pages thoroughly: http://microformats.org/wiki/process http://microfor

Re: [uf-discuss] Extracting N from hCard (was: Citation Straw Proposal II)

On 5/1/06 5:49 PM, "Karl Dubost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 06-05-02 à 08:50, Tantek Çelik a écrit : >> >> The Book of Ryan >> >> Ryan Cannon >> >> > > Is there a reason for not using the > - cit

Re: Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML]

On 5/1/06 3:27 PM, "Karl Dubost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 06-05-02 à 03:24, Ryan King a écrit : >> Internationalization in protocols and formats is a big problem. >> Much bigger than microformats. Maybe we'll be able to advance >> things in microformats, even if only a little. >> I'm cur

Re: [uf-discuss] Extracting N from hCard (was: Citation Straw Proposal II)

Brian is correct. In addition, semantically the "author" isn't just a *name*, the author is a *person*, and the microformat for a person is hCard. That's why we are using hCard there. If however, you wanted to reuse "fn" for the name of the work being cited, I could see a case being made for ex

Re: Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML]

Ryan, This is an excellent description of the larger problem (that goes far beyond, and is perhaps independent of microformats). I'd say this is worthy of an FAQ entry, as I can see this question being raised again (I believe Karl himself raised it some time ago before). Thanks, Tantek On 5/1

Re: Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML]

Steven, Interesting document, but it appears to only address languages in *content*, rather than in the markup itself. Though the document refers to "Language Tags", AFAIK, those are tags in the content (similar to rel-tag perhaps), rather than angle-bracketed tags. If I have misread the documen

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML

On 4/30/06 6:20 PM, "Karl Dubost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 06-04-30 à 07:36, Benjamin Carlyle a écrit : >> The short answer of when to use microformats is as follows: >> You are writing some html that contains some useful human-readable >> information. You say to yourself: I would like t

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML, redundancy

that the problem is not "just" an XML problem, however XML/RDF versions of vCard have the exact same problem. in fully spelled-out hCard: Tantek Çelik Note that the *data* is there only once, and also matches typical publishing behavior (rarely (if ever) do people state things

Re: [uf-discuss] admin question

Welcome Nic! First take a look at the FAQ: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq then, if you're still having problems, follow-up here and indicate what specific username you are trying to create. Thanks, Tantek On 4/27/06 3:52 AM, "Nic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to create a new ac

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/26/06 9:27 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 26, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> Ross, if the problem you're trying to solve doesn't involve common >> real >> world publishing cases on the *Web*, then yes, i

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 8:04 PM, "Edward Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 25, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >> FWIW, I like Xiaoming's suggestion. > > I'm glad Xiaoming expressed the case for URI so well. Me too. > I just added it > to the uid-brainstorming [1] page. I have to admit

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 10:13 PM, "Joe Andrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. I'm new to microformats and a bit confused on how one > disambiguates microformat names. It seems to be somewhat related to the > UID/URI issue. Welcome Joe! > I'm not sure I understand all of the subtleties between the

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar - every week event

On 4/26/06 8:07 AM, "Danilo Laurindo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, thanks Tantek. > I didn't know about the rrule very well. > > I believe an event can be starting at one day (dtstart) and not finish > ever... that's my case. So we tell people and machines it happens weekly, > from that da

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 8:02 PM, "Ross Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/25/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yes, we get things done because we dismiss the 20% in favor of getting the >> 80% working well. >> > > Except, in this cas

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar - every week event

On 4/25/06 4:33 AM, "Danilo Laurindo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure! Here it is... > http://www.dgabcsolutions.com.br/preview/camarascs/cm_home.asp > > I'm still formatting most things, so don't worry about the css yet. :) > > On the left side you have the nav bar, that I will implement xoxo

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 4:47 PM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, I like Xiaoming's suggestion. > Cool. Please add that comment (with your name/WikiAlias) to Xiaoming's proposal on the uid-brainstorming page. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-di

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 4:00 PM, "Xiaoming Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> >>> With URI you got all these things free, and you don't have to argue about >>> persistentence or uniqueness (which are hollo

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 3:25 PM, "Xiaoming Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> >> ISO8601 is fairly well accepted. The battle is over. So we pick the >> current winner and go with it. >> >> Whereas, as you

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 1:35 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 25, 2006, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> We *want* >> resources that can be identified by network location and thus a >> system that >> shows a bias *for* that is a *good* thing. &g

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 3:04 PM, "Ross Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek, > > Your responses and your reply about 'letting the market decide' what gets to > survive on the web makes me think that your attitude about microformats is: > > "Microformats are for commercial-purposes first and foremost.

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 1:39 PM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/25/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 4/25/06 12:01 PM, "Xiaoming Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> First hopefully we all agree on the

Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up

On 4/25/06 2:38 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> I'm very concerned that that may be an abuse of "abbr"; and wonder how >>> it will so

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 2:41 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> I think the case for ISBN is no big difference from telephone number or >>> zip code, etc. >> &g

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 8:45 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> The closest thing to UIDs that current publishers of hCards are >> publishing >> are their unique URLs within their sites (e.g. Upcom

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/25/06 12:01 PM, "Xiaoming Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> >> Please list the specific problems you've found with UID or URL, so we can >> make sure they are documented and properly explored/resolv

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

First of all, Welcome Xiaoming Liu! On 4/25/06 8:19 AM, "Xiaoming Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Ryan King wrote: > >> >> URLs, if used propertly can be sufficient for "globalby unique >> identifier[s]." Sure, you can mess things up by using a non-routeable address >> or

Re: [uf-discuss] "uid" microformats?

On 4/24/06 7:50 PM, "Etan Wexler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek Çelik wrote to the Microformats Discuss mailing list on > 2006-04-19 in a message with a title like ³[uf-discuss] UID, URL, live > microformats (was: Microformat auto-discovery WAS: Plazes &

Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up

On 4/24/06 8:09 PM, "Benjamin Carlyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 23:39 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alf Eaton >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes How would you see that sitting inside HTML mark-up? >>> 0 9507881-2-0 >> I'm very concerned tha

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/24/06 7:56 PM, "Etan Wexler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Third, I actually see disadvantages in using URIs as a basic unit rather >> than URLs. > > All URLs are URIs. What have I missed? The opposite. The fact that not all URIs are URLs. That's the point. You can infer things about a U

Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up

On 4/24/06 3:39 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alf Eaton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> How would you see that sitting inside HTML mark-up? >> >> 0 9507881-2-0 > > Thank you. > > I'm very concerned that that may be an abuse of "abbr"; and wonde

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar - every week event

Welcome Danilo! Could you provide a URL to the page you are rebuilding or to your rebuild in progress so we could take a look at how you're publishing the information now? Thanks, Tantek On 4/24/06 1:23 PM, "Danilo Laurindo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys, I'm a bit of a starter in mic

Re: "uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/24/06 7:42 AM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/21/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just as we extracted "geo" and "adr" from hCard to address the use cases >> brought up the Geo community

Re: validating microformats (was Re: [uf-discuss] Google Gdata new syndication protocol!)

On 4/21/06 7:18 PM, "Luke Arno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark P. is on the right track here as usual, I think. Yes. > What has been glossed over in this convo is that > underlying the discomfort that has been expressed > on the validation front here is this: > > Sure you can validate a micr

Re: [uf-discuss] Plazes, Part 2

On 4/21/06 11:28 AM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Chris Messina wrote: > >> Two quick things... shouldn't this discussion move to microformats- >> dev? >> >> Second, we did come up with a recommendation for handling IM nicks: >> >> http://microformats.or

"uid" microformats? (was Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up)

On 4/21/06 10:08 AM, "Edward Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Perhaps not a microformat, in the sense used here, but I feel that >> there >> should be some way (or is there already?) for marking up an ISBN >> number, >> so that it is recogni

validating microformats (was Re: [uf-discuss] Google Gdata new syndication protocol!)

Redirecting to microformats-dev... On 4/20/06 12:25 PM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Call me sceptical. Dedicated XML formats (like Atom) that can be > validated with standard XML tools Bruce, you're absolutely right about the value of validation. Definitely an area where we hav

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats for Mobile

Sam, in short yes. XHTML Basic supports the class attribute: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic/#s1.3.1 "The div and span elements and the class attribute are supported..." Thanks, Tantek On 4/20/06 5:05 AM, "Sam Sethi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Will Microformats work on a Mobile platfor

Re: [uf-discuss] Chris Messina's hcard

On 4/20/06 9:06 AM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alright, I've added 'n' next to 'fn' since I broke up my name. Whether > it's really necessarily (and useful) or just something that the > previous spec called for is still up for interpretation... Perhaps I should add this to the F

genealogy (was Re: life, death and address books (was Re: [uf-discuss] hCard and Life Dates?))

On 4/19/06 2:29 PM, "Atamido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that I'm proposing that hCard be used for genealogy, but if a > genealogy format were made it would likely pull all relevant classes > from hCard. In fact, it would probably just be an hCard with a few > missing/additional classes. A

collapsing root class names with property names (was Re: [uf-discuss] Plazes & Microformats)

On 4/19/06 1:57 PM, "David Janes -- BlogMatrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan King wrote: > >>> This is great place to continue this debate. The issue (as I >>> understand it) is that this optimization doesn't allow nested vcards: >>> >>> [SPAM-DATA] >> >> This would still be a problem if i

Re: [uf-discuss] Plazes & Microformats

David, it appears you may have missed my email from this morning: "[uf-discuss] UID, URL, live microformats (was: Microformat auto-discovery WAS: Plazes & Microformats)" In short, we don't want a vocabulary explo

Re: [uf-discuss] MicroID anyone?

On 4/19/06 10:59 AM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 18, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Sam Sethi wrote: > >> Thanks Eran. Also lots of back reading to do ;-) But one more quick >> question do you have a pointer to the topic on why hcard's are >> class=vcard >> and not class=hcard? In fact w

RSS DoS problem (was Re: [uf-discuss] UID, URL, live microformats (was: Microformat auto-discovery WAS: Plazes & Microformats))

On 4/19/06 10:21 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 19, 2006, at 11:39 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> 2. Live Microformats. This is the *really* interesting bit IMHO. >> As the >> Atom folks have explicitly designed with rel="self

[uf-discuss] UID, URL, live microformats (was: Microformat auto-discovery WAS: Plazes & Microformats)

First of all, welcome Pieter! I've been a fan of Plazes for quite some time, had a great time chatting with Stefan and Felix at ETech, and I'm very happy to see you here! Regarding auto-discovery, I just had a very good in person discussion with the Live Clipboard folks (especially with Matt Augu

life, death and address books (was Re: [uf-discuss] hCard and Life Dates?)

I find myself very much agreeing with Chris's sentiments, in particular: On 4/19/06 7:36 AM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/19/06, Ryan Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Besides, doesn't dtstart and dtend seem a little, well, cold? > > And 'dday' isn't? ;) 'dday' struc

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard validation

On 4/18/06 12:36 AM, "Aaron R. Fulkerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should my a href classes be prefixed with an 'url '? Only if the href URL represents *you*. I.e.: > > http://ninje.com/images/e/ea/AaronFulkerson.png"; alt="photo" > class="photo" style="float:left; margin:5px; margin-bott

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard validation

Welcome Aaron! On 4/18/06 12:23 AM, "Aaron R. Fulkerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I¹ve searched about and have been unable to find a). a validator There is no general/complete hCard validator yet, though Brian Suda's excellent X2V processor does provide warnings and errors for "common" mista

Re: [uf-discuss] What does "draft" mean? (was: Citation IRC Meet-up Time)

On 4/10/06 11:37 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When someone looks at the hcard pages and sees no > collection of real-world publishing of contact data nor discussion of > the properties implied by such examples, I think it's far too easy to > infer that microformats come from oth

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation IRC Meet-up Time

On 4/10/06 8:13 AM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10 Apr 2006, at 11:09, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> On 4/10/06 7:13 AM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10 Apr 2006, at 03:40, Tantek

Re: [uf-discuss] What does "draft" mean? (was: Citation IRC Meet-up Time)

On 4/10/06 9:01 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> Alf, it is premature to be making "recommendations" when the >> necessary steps >> in the process have not yet been completed.

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation IRC Meet-up Time

On 4/10/06 7:13 AM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10 Apr 2006, at 03:40, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> On 4/9/06 3:53 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> At the end of the meeting I agreed to make a new wiki

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation IRC Meet-up Time

On 4/9/06 3:53 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the end of the meeting I agreed to make a new wiki page that > summarised the previous discussion and had some examples that could > be a basis for further progress. Here's the page - feel free to edit, > particular with extending the

Re: [uf-discuss] Perfect app to convert to support microformats

Great find Chris! This would be a perfect request for the LazyWeb section of /wiki/to-do Thanks, Tantek On 4/8/06 7:58 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uses your Apple Address Book and turns it into the source of data for > a web server... > > http://www.turingart.com/abForWe

Re: [uf-discuss] Updating the blog "People" page

On 4/8/06 7:32 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems the People page is out of date... > > http://microformats.org/about/people/ > > Should that be updated? Good question. The right thing to do might be to simply capture the fact that it represented the state of that informati

Re: [uf-discuss] multiple tel and adr types

On 4/7/06 7:24 PM, "Tantek Çelik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/7/06 3:11 PM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> While writing test cases for the TEL property of hCard, I realized >> that we could have two different co

Re: [uf-discuss] multiple tel and adr types

On 4/7/06 3:11 PM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While writing test cases for the TEL property of hCard, I realized > that we could have two different constructions of the type sub- > property. Examples: > > > >home >msg > > +1411234 > > > >home >msg >

Re: [uf-discuss] Need for an MF styleguide

On 4/5/06 6:23 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Saw a discussion about XHTML styleguides... > > I think we need something equally digestible for publishers... that > makes it super super simple to "get and apply" microformats... Tara > and I discussed this as a "Dummy's Guide" but

Re: [uf-discuss] very simple microformat for URIs

On 4/5/06 3:03 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 05 Apr 2006, at 17:44, brian suda wrote: > >> In hCard you can >> do either of the following to represent a URL >> >> http://example.org"; class="url">My homepage >> or >> http://example.org > > Could you also do > http://example.or

Re: [uf-discuss] very simple microformat for URIs

On 4/5/06 2:31 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 05 Apr 2006, at 17:24, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> On 4/5/06 2:19 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On 05 Apr 2006, at 17:14, David Janes -- Bl

Re: [uf-discuss] very simple microformat for URIs

On 4/5/06 2:19 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 05 Apr 2006, at 17:14, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: > >> Alf Eaton wrote: >>> At the moment, microformatted URIs are generally marked up in the >>> href attribute of an tag with a class of 'url' (hreview, >>> hcard) or 'email' (h

[uf-discuss] microformats podcasts index now on wiki

Greetings, Since there have been several recent podcasts where microformats have been discussed, I've created a page on the wiki to keep track of them (similar to the presentations page) http://microformats.org/wiki/podcasts Please check it out, have a listen to the listed podcasts. The page o

Re: [uf-discuss] Format-of-Formats?

Chris, The perceived value that you see is exactly why this whole topic is such a massive trap. It is very seductive (especially to programmers) to think that you can define a format for formats (a meta-format shall we say), *once*, then implement *only that*, then have every specific format mag

Re: [uf-discuss] Describing software

On 3/29/06 7:13 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:52 AM, Drew McLellan wrote: > >> Is there anything that would help me describe software? > > That sounds like a more specific form of the (stalled?) listing > microformat: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/list

Re: [uf-discuss] Simplifying hierarchy in hCard

On 3/29/06 3:14 AM, "David Janes -- BlogMatrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the hatom-issues [1] discussion, Tantek writes: > > | You can actually simplify that (one fewer span) with: > | My Name > > Why shouldn't hCard support My > Name? I.e. do we gain anything by that extra layer of hie

Re: [uf-discuss] Dreamweaver implementation

Hi Drew! On 3/18/06 3:39 AM, "Drew McLellan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone seen any third-party microformat support for Dreamweaver? > I've done a bit of searching and can't find any reference to actual > implementations. I don't know of any either. > If there's nothing out there I'll

Re: [uf-discuss] adr in hCalendar

Both of these are good examples. The ideal is perhaps embedding a complete hCard as the location, since hCard provides more semantic/structured information than just an "adr". E.g. in typical examples, there is an actual named venue for an event. SxSW Austin, TX Conference center room 18 For

Re: [uf-discuss] Biography microformat?

Welcome Breton! On 3/13/06 5:21 AM, "Breton Blake Slivka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be clear at the start, this message is not a proposal for a new > format. (Well not yet anyway) > > I am gearing up to do the redesign for an art gallery's website. I am > considering making heavy use of mi

[uf-discuss] Microformats Implementations details/taxonomy for hCalendar (to start with)

In an attempt to make it easier for folks to find particular types of implementations for each microformat, I have organized the "Implementations" section of the hCalendar specification into what feels like a decent best first guess at categories of implementations that people may be interested in

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformat Question

On 3/8/06 7:42 AM, "Paul Kinlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I have created an account and I will wait to see what happens from there. Welcome Paul! > David/Scott, I think your right, I should research it a bit more to a) see > if it has been done before and b) how other people do it and

Re: [uf-discuss] Call for microformats folks attending/demoing at ETech and SXSW!

On 3/6/06 9:23 AM, "Joe Gregorio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/27/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So if you are attending, and have an innovative/break-through microformats >> implementation that you would like to demonstrate, add yourse

Re: [uf-discuss] Call for microformats folks attending/demoing at ETechand SXSW!

On 2/27/06 7:41 PM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 27, 2006, at 6:12 PM, Paul Bryson wrote: >> I enjoyed the section about microformats at last year's SXSW, and >> was really >> looking forward to this year. Thanks for the kind words Paul! >> Unfortunately I will have to go to a

Re: [uf-discuss] Product Data Microformat

On 3/5/06 6:08 PM, "David Beach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think XML could be sufficient. But if it is, then why hasn't any of > this been done? Indeed, it's been tried, but more with idealistic formats that attempt to capture all information about something, rather than empirically based 80

Re: [uf-discuss] item in hReviews

On 3/4/06 5:57 PM, "Alf Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 04 Mar 2006, at 13:50, Ryan King wrote: > >> On Mar 4, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Alf Eaton wrote: >> >>> At postgenomic.com (an aggregator/analysis engine for life science >>> weblogs), an attempt to get people to add markup to their post

Re: [uf-discuss] proposed geo syntax addition (affects hCard) Re: [microformats-discuss] adr and geo microformats finally written up

Hi Brian, On 3/4/06 8:02 AM, "Brian Suda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just had two immediate thoughts, none of whick really effect this > idea, i just wanted to get them out there documented. > > 1) The current GEO property has to have sub-properties of > class="latitude" and class="logitude"

[uf-discuss] proposed geo syntax addition (affects hCard) Re: [microformats-discuss] adr and geo microformats finally written up

On 9/23/05 10:00 AM, "Tantek Çelik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/23/05 2:01 AM, "Kevin Marks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On Sep 22, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: >> >>> In the "I should have writ

[uf-discuss] [uf-announce] Microformats voted best session at W3C Technical Plenary Day!

The W3C held their annual Technical Plenary Day meeting today in Mandelieu, France. Tantek Çelik (Technorati) and Dan Connolly (W3C) moderated a session on Microformats with fellow presenters Ian Hickson, Håkon Wium Lie and Rohit Khare. Event details and links to presentations can be found here

[uf-discuss] hAtom - ready for 0.1?

I've been watching eagerly as hAtom has been refined quite nicely by everyone's excellent discussions and Ryan King's and David Janes' hard work in updating the wiki accordingly. I think it is looking quite good. http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom I haven't yet completed adding it to my blog ye

Re: [uf-discuss] Product Data Microformat

Hi Chris, On 2/27/06 1:59 AM, "Chris Roos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Beach wrote: >> I'm David Beach. I work for Yahoo! in Yahoo! Shopping. I'm interested in >> creating a microformat for product information. It's possible that this >> could be very useful for merchants, manufacturers, a

Re: [uf-discuss] Call for microformats folks attending/demoing at ETech and SXSW!

On 2/27/06 1:56 AM, "Factory Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah yeah, totally down for a mF Mashpit @ either Etech or SXSW. I'm busyish > this week, but if folks are interested, ping me and let me know and we'll > get something going. > > I've created two pages to get these kicked off. pw to

[uf-discuss] Call for microformats folks attending/demoing at ETech and SXSW!

Greetings, There are several microformats related sessions at upcoming conferences documented here: http://microformats.org/wiki/events In particular I want to call your attention to ETech and SXSW sessions on microformats: http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2006-03-07-etech-microformats h

Re: Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Product Data Microformat

On 2/26/06 9:24 PM, "David Beach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Mike. > > Sounds great. Let's see who else might be interested in contributing.  > > Everyone... what is the process for beginning to create a microformat? Does > that happen in the wiki? > > I'll dig around, but if anyone as an

[uf-discuss] Re: Question on intent for hcard/hcal

Hi Paresh, Nice to meet you. On 2/26/06 10:14 AM, "Paresh Suthar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Tantek - I have emailed this question to the micro-formats list and have > not seen it actually show up in the archive list, The list only accepts messages from precisely the address you used t

Re: [uf-discuss] REMINDER: hCalendar IRC meetup tomorrow/today

by Serginandr, was not undone unfortunately, and thus part of "Note 2" was hidden (it was a markup example). I'll go fix it. > But you'll find more info in the notes and the IRC > discussion. Thanks, Tantek > On 2/25/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [uf-discuss] REMINDER: hCalendar IRC meetup tomorrow/today

Hi Mark, Please make sure that any hCalendar issues that you know of are documented on the hcalendar-issues page sufficiently in advance so that folks have some time to read them and consider them, and so that we keep a history of the issues somewhere easier to follow than email. http://microfor

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview 0.3 drafted

On 2/23/06 9:40 AM, "John Panzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I've taken the changes proposed and accepted for hReview 0.3 from the >> review-brainstorming page and incorporated them into h

Re: [uf-discuss] hlisting discussion Wednesday night

nd Oodle for hosting an excellent multi-hour discussion session on hListing. We have folks from Oodle, Edgeio, Technorati, CommerceNet, and independent developer Assaf Arkin all participated in a heated but productive discussion. Here are some collaboratively taken (props to SubethaEdit) rough

[uf-discuss] hReview 0.3 drafted

Greetings, I've taken the changes proposed and accepted for hReview 0.3 from the review-brainstorming page and incorporated them into hReview: http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview Please take a look and review (so to speak). Follow-up to the list with any errors / omissions / feedback / sugges

[uf-discuss] object include pattern documented

During yesterday's f2f at mashupcamp meeting where we discussed the finalization/resolution of outstanding issues for hAtom, hResume, hReview 0.3, it became apparent that the "include" technique we came up with for hResume had utility in at least hReview and hAtom as well, and possibly other microf

[uf-discuss] implied "nickname" optimization proposal accepted and added to hCard

The implied "nickname" optimization proposal as documented on hcard-brainstorming, and +1'd by various folks with no objections, has been accepted and added to hCard. http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard In short, you can now markup even smaller hCards like: tantekc as you might see for the "aut

Re: [uf-discuss] spec interpretation question with hCalendar attr element example

On 2/20/06 2:10 AM, "Mark Mansour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi again, Hi Mark! > Although there is a hCalendar meetup on Friday/Saturday on IRC (plug, > plug - see a recent post) I had a general question to ask here first > that can be highlighted with a specific example.. > > My general q

Re: [uf-discuss] one citation microformat use case

Welcome Michael! On 2/10/06 7:25 PM, "Michael McCracken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, I just found the recent conversations about a citation microformat, and > saw that the discussion slowed down around the same time someone asked about > what problem we're solving. The conversation is stil

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: one citation microformat use case (Michael McCracken)

In short, most of these questions/suppositions are answered/discussed the following wiki pages. http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats http://microformats.org/wiki/distributed-conversation http://microformats.org/wiki/citation On 2/14/06 6:43 AM, "David Osolkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [uf-discuss] hresume draft

On 2/13/06 7:59 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> Again, because he is no longer has that title and org (i.e. >> "former"), I >> don't think it is appropriate to mark it up

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