On 21/8/08 18:41, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Smethurst wrote:
Hi Martin
On 14/8/08 15:48, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe von in dutch simply means of or from
Oh I
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 21/8/08 18:41, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Smethurst wrote:
Hi Martin
On 14/8/08 15:48, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe von in
2008/8/21 Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:1895/people/16
Michael actually means:
http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org:2840/
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Hi Martin
On 14/8/08 15:48, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Michael
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On listings pages and:
h1 class=vcard
a
Michael Smethurst wrote:
Hi Martin
On 14/8/08 15:48, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe von in dutch simply means of or from
Oh I quoted wrong there I meant to say van in Dutch simply means of
or
Hello Lisa
Lisa Goodlin wrote:
On 8/14/08 10:48 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe von in dutch simply means of or from, O as in
O'Donnell, in Irish means descendant of or grandson of (in
To add to the confusion I'll throw a few more data points in.
'Mc' prefixes are historically contractions of 'Mac', and names often
get the prefixes dropped.
I've seen the names McNulty, Nulty and MacNulty listed in surname lists:
a) Separately as you'd expect alphabetically
b) All together
On 13/8/08 10:50, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
3. Should I just collapse last_name_prefix and last_name into:
span class=family-namelast_name_prefix last_name/span
There doesn't seem to be a way of marking up last_name_prefix
:
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From: Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:54:36 +0100
To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names
On 13/8/08 10:50, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On listings pages and:
h1 class=vcard
a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name-prefixvan/span
span class=family-nameBeethoven/span
/a
/h1
On ludwig's page
It
To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names
On 13/8/08 10:50, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This gets a bit tricky cos some family name prefixes (Mc, Mac, Fitz, O')
stay attached
On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On listings pages and:
h1 class=vcard
a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name-prefixvan/span
span
But some detach:
Beethoven, Ludwig van
span class=fn n
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name
van
span class=sort-stringBeethoven/span
/span
/span
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On 14/8/08 13:36, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But some detach:
Beethoven, Ludwig van
span class=fn n
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name
van
span class=sort-stringBeethoven/span
/span
/span
But as I said earlier on listing pages it
But as I said earlier on listing pages it should be
Beethoven, Ludwig van
Not especially pretty, but:
span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span,
span class=fn n
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name
van
a href=#b class=hidden include/a
/span
/span
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Toby A
Hello Michael
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On listings pages and:
h1 class=vcard
a href=http://localhost:3005/people/16; class=n fn url
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span
On 14/8/08 15:23, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But as I said earlier on listing pages it should be
Beethoven, Ludwig van
Not especially pretty, but:
span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span,
span class=fn n
span class=given-nameLudwig/span
span class=family-name
Eeeuuurrgg!
Well, I did warn that it was not pretty. The sort of hCard that might
be found at goatse.cx perhaps.
Using my own suggested alternative to the include pattern, it would be:
span id=b class=sort-stringBeethoven/span,
span class=fn n
span
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Michael
Michael Smethurst wrote:
On 14/8/08 12:32, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/14, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
span class=family-name-prefixvan/span
...
I've asked around and the label
Hi MIchael,
Unfortunately the data I'm working with would have O'Connor as one
field and
the sort letter would be 0. So you'd appear on ../o I fear
But even if you were indexed as D and appeared under ../d you'd
appear
there as:
O'Donnell, Jim
That's fine - that's exactly how it
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Jim O'Donnell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's fine - that's exactly how it should be written. The surname is
written O'Donnell (not Donnell) but is indexed/sorted under D.
This means that the surname is properly supposed to be O'Donnell and
we should not care
/PersonNameReferenceExamplesKSAUAE_final_.pdf
http://ns.hr-xml.org/2_5/HR-XML-2_5/CPO/PersonName.html#_Toc127535930
Chuck Allen
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names]
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:14:45 +0100
From: Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 8/14/08 10:48 AM, Martin McEvoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*family-name-preposition* is probably more accurate to what you are
trying to describe von in dutch simply means of or from, O as in
O'Donnell, in Irish means descendant of or grandson of (in
Gaelic Ua), Mc and Mac are again
Hello!
I'm currently working with a database that has a table of composers. The
data's quite granular and gives:
- personal title (can be sir or just mr, ms, etc)
- first name
- middle_name_1
- middle_name_2
- middle_name_3
- last_name_prefix (von, de los, van der)
- last_name
So my questions
2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So my questions are:
1. can I just use span class=additional-namemiddle_name_1 middle_name_2
middle_name_3/span?
...
Or should I use:
span class=additional-namemiddle_name_1/span
span class=additional-namemiddle_name_2/span
span
On 13/8/08 10:50, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So my questions are:
1. can I just use span class=additional-namemiddle_name_1 middle_name_2
middle_name_3/span?
...
Or should I use:
span
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