Hi all,
Just a quick note that the Yahoo! SearchMonkey product — which allows
you to enhance search results at Yahoo! with data gleaned from
microformats — have a public suggestions board and are shortly going
to be using it to influence their next set of development priorities.
As such,
On 7 Nov 2006, at 17:03, Ciaran McNulty wrote:
that makes rel="vote-for" mean "This url is a vote for the
current page".
Correct. However, this isn't mentioned in the spec or anywhere
because it has an issue with authority.
I could say 'That page over there is a vote for me'. That isn't
a
On 11/1/06, Siegfried Gipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, at least i know many examples saying exactly that, but without using
rel="vote-for". There are many pages out there trying to make the visitors
vote for them.
rev="vote-for" means "The current page is a vote for this URL". By
definiti
Am Montag, 6. November 2006 22:41 schrieb Ben Ward:
> It's because the microformat does not define the meaning of
> '@rel=vote-for', it just defines the meaning of 'vote-for'. The rel
> (or rev) relationship comes direct from HTML. The pool of values for
> @rel and @rev are shared as they are clos
On 6 Nov 2006, at 21:25, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Indeed, this i do not understand.Why should a definition of
rel="vote-for"
have any negative effect (or any effect at all) on the definition of
rev="vote-for"? These are two different attributes.
It's because the microformat does not define the m
Am Montag, 6. November 2006 20:18 schrieb Ryan King:
> I think you missed how my two points interacted. It's not possible
> for us to define a semantic for rel="vote-for" which is different
> than semantic of rev="vote-for". Because of my point #1 above, this
> will only cause ambiguity. Due to po
On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 20:28 schrieb Ryan King:
1. The original spec of vote-links erroneously specified that the
vote-links link relationships should be on the @rel attribute.
There's content on the web (which will never go away) that u
Am Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 20:28 schrieb Ryan King:
> 1. The original spec of vote-links erroneously specified that the
> vote-links link relationships should be on the @rel attribute.
> There's content on the web (which will never go away) that uses this
> construct. So, using @rel='vote-for'
Am Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 19:23 schrieb David Osolkowski:
> > > What about ... ?
> >
> > I believe that means the page containing this link is voting for a
> > JavaScript function. Probably not what you want to communicate.
>
> Hmm, isn't that backwards? somevotingfunction() is a vote-for the
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
It's not about redefining the rel or rev attribute. It's about
redefining
the "vote-for" attribute value if used with the rel attibute.
We have some significant problems with using @rel=~'vote-for', which
IMO, keep us from ever using it:
On 11/1/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is already an established meaning for rev="vote-for", and the
reverse of that doesn't really communicate anything useful.
I don't know about that; I could certainly imagine, say, a proposal
asking people to vote by making blog posts and
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 17:16 schrieb David Osolkowski:
You can't use vote-for for this, because vote-for already has defined
semantics; it represents a vote that has been cast, not the
ability to
cast a vote. It's already possible to
Am Mittwoch, 1. November 2006 17:16 schrieb David Osolkowski:
> You can't use vote-for for this, because vote-for already has defined
> semantics; it represents a vote that has been cast, not the ability to
> cast a vote. It's already possible to use vote-for in both rel and
> rev; one indicates t
You can't use vote-for for this, because vote-for already has defined
semantics; it represents a vote that has been cast, not the ability to
cast a vote. It's already possible to use vote-for in both rel and
rev; one indicates that the current page is a vote for the link
destination, the other in
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 19:54 schrieb Scott Reynen:
> But that's just not what rel and rev mean. And this part isn't even
> a meaning we've defined here, so we couldn't change it if we wanted
>
> to. It's defined in the HTML spec:
> > The rel and rev attributes play complementary roles --
On Oct 31, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Using the same semantics for both is like saying a ballot and a
polling place are functionally the same thing. Sure, both are part
of voting, but that doesn't make them interchangeable.
Right. Therefore use rel and rev attribute respectively
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 19:13 schrieb Scott Reynen:
> 1) Page A is a vote for Page B, i.e. a ballot
> 2) Page A is a place where you can create a vote for Page B, i.e. a
> polling place
Right
>
> Using the same semantics for both is like saying a ballot and a
> polling place are functionally
On Oct 31, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
1. The link points to a resource which votes for THIS resource or
contains
some form or script or whatever to enable the user to vote for THIS
resource,
then the usage of the rev attribute is correct.
This is out of scope for vote-links.
I d
Am Montag, 30. Oktober 2006 22:33 schrieb Ryan King:
> > 1. The link points to a resource which votes for THIS resource or
> > contains
> > some form or script or whatever to enable the user to vote for THIS
> > resource,
> > then the usage of the rev attribute is correct.
>
> This is out of scope
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Limiting the vote-for relation to the rev attribute is not good.
There are two
different scenarios:
1. The link points to a resource which votes for THIS resource or
contains
some form or script or whatever to enable the user to vote for TH
Limiting the vote-for relation to the rev attribute is not good. There are two
different scenarios:
1. The link points to a resource which votes for THIS resource or contains
some form or script or whatever to enable the user to vote for THIS resource,
then the usage of the rev attribute is cor
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