On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
[bsd vs. GPL]
Sorry for 'stealing' this thread but I'm not sure if I should make a new
thread for this.
I'm wondering what OpenBSD people think about BSD (-like) licenses
versus public domain.
What does the ISC license actually
It's related to timeout options.
man pf.conf(5), Options sections, timeouts.
By default, pf offers to you a three 'lists' of timeouts values:
Conservative, Normal and Aggressive.
If you want to drop completely the connections states early, you can use
Aggressive staff. But PF is extremely
Hi
I'm trying to get the screen resolution to working in X. I always got
1024x768 but I want 1280x800
Worth to mention is that I'm running OpenBSD as a guest with Virtualbox 1.6
on a Vista 32-bit host.
As screen device am I using * Generic VESA compatible and in Subsection
Display for each
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
1. BSD license is completely free. No one needs to give back changes
forcibly(the GPL way), hence this is completely free.
If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which
take BSD code (network stack i hear)
Am 03.05.2008 um 19:56 schrieb Jordi Espasa Clofent:
Yes, I know, it's completely a dumb question; but I'm curious about
it.
I'm just learning C applied in networking area and I wonder what
editor is preferred by OpenBSD developers.
I am using two editors on a regular base: vi that is
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:14:06AM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
[bsd vs. GPL]
Sorry for 'stealing' this thread but I'm not sure if I should make a new
thread for this.
I'm wondering what OpenBSD people think about BSD
Hello,
Did anyone actually installed and tried to use mplayer on a snapshot install?
I've installed OpenBSD 4.3 from snapshots and then mplayer package (of
course, from snapshot pacakges.)
When I run mplayer, i get this - mplayer: can't load library 'libjack.so.0.0'
Already searched the web,
Finally I found the project's webpage. The release package is jack-
not libjack-. In the snapshots packages one can find jack- and install
fine.
Then mplayer is running fine. Note that jack- package is not listed in
Application Packages link on the openbsd.org.
Shouldn't mplayer package install
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:44:07AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:14:06AM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
I'm wondering what OpenBSD people think about BSD (-like) licenses
versus public domain.
Pulic domain also says do with it whatever you like. I really don't
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
stuff... is ATi really the way to go, if you just want a straight
forward desktop? Have ATi (or anyone) really got their docs going
without NDA, and are there actually exists drivers for them in the
latest release of OpenBSD.
Isn't /tmp mounted with option nodev, by chance?
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Pieter Verberne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhm, dunno what IIRC is.. But wouldn't it be just great to put anything
like this in a file's header? :
# This file is in public domain
or even better:
# public domain
So IIRC requires the full license? That's a
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:46:49PM +0200, Almir Karic wrote:
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Pieter Verberne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uhm, dunno what IIRC is.. But wouldn't it be just great to put anything
like this in a file's header? :
# This file is in public domain
or even
On 2008-05-04, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did anyone actually installed and tried to use mplayer on a snapshot install?
I've installed OpenBSD 4.3 from snapshots
Then you haven't installed OpenBSD 4.3, but a -current snapshot.
When I run mplayer, i get this - mplayer: can't
2008/5/4 Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[vim] alters files in unexpected ways, which I consider a
major sin.
I didn't know that, and cursory googling didn't turn up anything
enlightening. Could you elaborate?
Thanks and regards,
--ropers
Hi
I have a problem to start jackd to use my audiophile 2496 card.
$ jackd -d sun
jackd 0.109.10
[copyright information]
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
Enhanced3DNow! detected
SSE2 detected
sun_driver: setting capture parameters failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cannot
It is in this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:59:14AM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it.
if you could
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:12:37PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
But in general, we choose to remain known as author.
That is our privilege for the files we created or modified
extensively. Whatever you choose to do with things you publish is your
decision.
Uhm.. to remain known as
He is eluding to things like smart tabs and auto indent. Those are
disabled by default on vim and when programming they are both a curse and
a gift from the gods. I'll admit to having spend more than a few
minutes fine tuning that.
I am an old vi rat that finally caved to vim for several
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:12:37PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
If you put anything in public domain, you'll give up your copyright. So
the next person te distribute your software is allowed to remove your
name from the credits list. I can imagine this sounds like a problem for
some
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Nick Holland wrote:
but I WOULD tell any new user: learn the
base system tools first.
More to the point, have a working knowledge of ed. Had a royal PITA the
other day when I misspelled softdep in the /usr line in fstab, and
didn't know how to use ed.
Most modern OSs (with the exception
Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am an old vi rat that finally caved to vim for several reasons.
[...]
* tab complete commands and filenames in command mode
FWIW, nvi supports file name completion on the colon command line,
you just have to enable it with the filec variable.
On 14:39:14 May 04, Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
Hi
I have a problem to start jackd to use my audiophile 2496 card.
$ jackd -d sun
jackd 0.109.10
[copyright information]
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
Enhanced3DNow! detected
SSE2 detected
sun_driver:
Isn't /tmp mounted with option nodev, by chance?
Would not explain it failing in /dev
but a good thought.
uhmm on this computer, /tmp is on the root partition, did not make a
separate mount in fstab for it, ... yes,
probably should have made a /tmp partition so as to be able to add
options
Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
$ jackd -d sun
This could be a permissions issue. Does Jack initialize correctly if
you run it as root?
Tom
2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It is in this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2
Thanks for the link, so nv itself is developed by nVidia themselves
and is written to be obscure too... that's another reason for me to
chuck away my nVidia card!!
2008/5/4
On May 4, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Pieter Verberne wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote:
[bsd vs. GPL]
Sorry for 'stealing' this thread but I'm not sure if I should make
a new
thread for this.
I'm wondering what OpenBSD people think about BSD (-like) licenses
Steve Shockley schrieb:
Had a royal PITA the other day when I misspelled softdep in the
/usr line in fstab, and didn't know how to use ed.
No prob w/o ed :) You can just cat /etc/fstab | grep -v usr
/etc/fstab.new followed by echo 'whatever' /etc/fstab.new and then
mv everything to
My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau
is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made
me realize how much better the driver is.
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:42:44AM +1000, Sunnz wrote:
2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It is in
ropers wrote:
2008/5/4 Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[vim] alters files in unexpected ways, which I consider a
major sin.
I didn't know that, and cursory googling didn't turn up anything
enlightening. Could you elaborate?
Thanks and regards,
--ropers
It might have been better if I
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:09:41AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
The only section of copyright that isn't surrendered by the ISC license
(also often mistakenly called the BSD) is authorship.
Right.
As an example, I like to give away my code for people to study and play
with. The only thing I
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau
is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made
me realize how much better the driver is.
Almost the same, except that my old laptop
2008/5/5 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau
is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made
me realize how much better the driver is.
I see... I take it that you are running -current? Looking at
On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:27:39 +0530
Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What makes you imagine that jack is necessary to play music?
Because the driver envy only work natively on jack today
(http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120791661009255w=2).
It juste make noise in other software
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:29:01PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 12:12:37PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
But in general, we choose to remain known as author.
That is our privilege for the files we created or modified
extensively. Whatever you choose to do with
uhm what else is there besides -current?
;-)
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:04:49AM +1000, Sunnz wrote:
2008/5/5 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau
is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:55:16PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:09:41AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
The only section of copyright that isn't surrendered by the ISC license
(also often mistakenly called the BSD) is authorship.
Right.
As an example, I like to
On 2008-05-04, Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True, but is the name of the license, or the name + URL enough?
Anyone can then change the contents of the URL later on. For example:
domain expires, evil scammers grab it and publish a new license at the
same URL requiring payment for
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:31:11PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008-05-04, Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True, but is the name of the license, or the name + URL enough?
Anyone can then change the contents of the URL later on. For example:
domain expires, evil scammers grab
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 11:12:04AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
public domain is not properly defined in the framework of the law.
True (in the Nederlands), I recently wrote a letter to the Ministry
of Justice about dutch copyright law wich does not give an author
the possibility to put a work
rancor wrote:
Try changing the refreshing rates to something higher.
as in
Section Monitor
#DisplaySize 320 240 # mm
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName DEL
ModelNameDELL E773c
### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
NVIDIA when doing open source.
I'm going to express a very small and highly qualified exception to this
comment...
I have found
Marco Peereboom wrote:
public domain is not properly defined in the framework of the law.
http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/public_domain/
Public domain is very clearly defined by law: it is the absence of
copyright. If it's public domain, then you and everyone else can do
*anything* to it or
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
Hi
I have a problem to start jackd to use my audiophile 2496 card.
$ jackd -d sun
jackd 0.109.10
[copyright information]
JACK compiled with System V SHM support.
loading driver ..
Enhanced3DNow! detected
SSE2
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:10:04AM -0600, Tom Rosso wrote:
Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
$ jackd -d sun
This could be a permissions issue.
huh? only if he doesn't have permissions on /dev/audio, and in that case,
would have seen a different message.
something's not working? try running
Jacob Meuser wrote:
you DON'T want to run jackd as root. anything connecting to jackd will
have to run as root. and no, it does not improve performance.
I've experienced permissions-related problems with Jack before, and
meant this as a troubleshooting step. Obviously you don't want to
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 07:03:09PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
(but going by your name you are just being dutch!).
I don't understand.. Yes I'm dutch, is this a joke/saying?
Yes and no :-)
The dutch are notoriously known to argue for arguments sake. That is
what I was getting at.
Beware
On 5/4/08, Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keeping authorship for a resume sounds like a somewhat good reason
to me. I think you could also use public domain code for a resume,
but that may have it's downsides. My question is something like: is
keeping copyright worth putting the
It works with the version in ports and the -i 0 option, not -i 12 .
Thx for your help .
--
Jean-michel Bessot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/4/08, Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pulic domain also says do with it whatever you like. I really don't
know about the importance of the disclaimer. Maybe it depends on
the country you live in. I'm a minimalist is some respects, and I think
you should not put anything in a
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:32:43PM +0300, Lars Nood??n wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
public domain is not properly defined in the framework of the law.
http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/public_domain/
Public domain is very clearly defined by law: it is the absence of
copyright. If
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:27:39PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
On 14:39:14 May 04, Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
Hi
I have a problem to start jackd to use my audiophile 2496 card.
$ jackd -d sun
jackd 0.109.10
[copyright information]
JACK compiled with System V SHM
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 11:53:04AM -0600, Tom Rosso wrote:
Jacob Meuser wrote:
you DON'T want to run jackd as root. anything connecting to jackd will
have to run as root. and no, it does not improve performance.
I've experienced permissions-related problems with Jack before, and
meant
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:09:17PM +0200, Jean-michel Bessot wrote:
It works with the version in ports and the -i 0 option, not -i 12 .
ah, I forgot about audio(4) buffers being limited to 65536 bytes.
12 channels * 4 bytes per sample = 48 bytes per frame. jackd uses
2 buffers of 1024 frames
The dutch are notoriously known to argue for arguments sake. That is
what I was getting at.
Come on. Only those of french descent do.
Hi. Thanks for your reply
I'm running OpenBSD 4.3 in a virtual environment using Virtualbox 1.6 and
they don't have any grapics adapter specified. They just say: Use VESA
generic adapter and that's what I'm doing.
Maybe it's Virtualbox that is the problem and not OpenBSD.
Regards rancor
On
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:24:20PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
NVIDIA when doing open source.
I'm going to express a very
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:55:16PM +0200, Pieter Verberne wrote:
| As an example, I like to give away my code for people to study and play
| with. The only thing I demand is credit for that piece of code. The
| reason I do not abandon that right is because at some point in my life I
| might
Trying to install 4.3 from scratch onto the machine I use as my home
file server, coming against a problem. The previous configuration was
4x160g as a RAID-5 for OS/support/whatever, and 4x300g drives RAID-5 for
samba. I've changed the config so that it's now 2x160 as RAID-1, and
6x300 as
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from
NVIDIA when doing open source.
I'm going to express a very small and highly qualified exception to this
comment...
I concur: clearly things are
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:19:24AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
He is eluding to things like smart tabs and auto indent. Those are
disabled by default on vim and when programming they are both a curse and
a gift from the gods. I'll admit to having spend more than a few
minutes fine tuning
Nick if you looked at the code of that driver you would not have written
this blurb.
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:24:20PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely
functional and it generally sucks really really
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is in this thread:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2
thanks for the link :)
well, the chat on the thread just fires bombs on nVidia, what is not new.
apart from some info from you about radeonhd, no
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 02:03:49PM -0400, Chris Zakelj wrote:
Trying to install 4.3 from scratch onto the machine I use as my home file
server, coming against a problem. The previous configuration was 4x160g as
a RAID-5 for OS/support/whatever, and 4x300g drives RAID-5 for samba. I've
I'm building my first 4.3 system, and one of the ports needs xlib.h. What
install tarball is this in?
--
One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking
zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C
programs.
Pieter == Pieter Verberne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pieter I'm wondering what OpenBSD people think about BSD (-like) licenses
Pieter versus public domain.
public domain is not a legal license in some countries. In other
words, you can't totally give away all your rights. So, an explicit
Alexander Hall wrote:
Owain Ainsworth wrote:
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:54:05AM +0200, Alexander Hall wrote:
Hi!
What is the status of acpidock(4)? From source-changes@ etc I cannot
tell if it's considered usable or highly experimental.
Still the latter, unfortunately.
...
[ For the
Should be xbase
-0-
On 04/05/2008, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm building my first 4.3 system, and one of the ports needs xlib.h. What
install tarball is this in?
--
One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking
zero, they had no way to indicate successful
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An FFS can only be as large as 1TB. You cannot change an FFS into an
FFS2 fileystem and you cannot use FFS2 for any filesystems used by the
installer. Just create the large filesystem after installation. But
check the
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:17:58PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
radeonhd has any 3D ?
3D acceleration is not currently supported on OpenBSD, but work is being
done to ensure that it will be supported in the future. A recent
progress report, together with a description of the status of NVIDIA,
rancor wrote:
Ah, it helped a little bit to change the refreshing rates to higher
values. I got 1280x1024 now but I can't get wide screens resolutions.
I installed 815resolution and made it run as it was recommended in
rc.securelevel.
I did add 1280x800 in xorg.conf but I can't see it in
Which Video-Card?
I have a Intel 82855GM and in my Xorg.conf are:
Driver intel
It works good
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 11:41:01AM +0200, rancor wrote:
Hi
I'm trying to get the screen resolution to working in X. I always got
1024x768 but I want 1280x800
Worth to mention is that I'm
On 5/4/08 12:15 PM, Pieter Verberne wrote:
But wouldn't it be just great to put anything
like this in a file's header? :
# This file is in public domain
or even better:
# public domain
When there is no name there is nobody who can testify it is in the
public domain.
Don't forget: Basically
2008/5/4 debian developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Let me make a few things clear. I am a newbie. I'm not a troll but a
seriously curious guy wanting to know.
Which is why you stay anonym and don't follow the discussion. Looks
like trolling to me.
OTOH a non-troll would have the knowledge of
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Quoted from Girish Venkatachalam on Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:18:10AM +0530,:
On 13:51:58 May 03, Robert C Wittig wrote:
vi/vim.
I use it for most of my editing tasks, not just writing C code.
I use vim since it enhances my coding speed in
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:32:28PM +0200, Dorian B|ttner wrote:
Steve Shockley schrieb:
Had a royal PITA the other day when I misspelled softdep in the
/usr line in fstab, and didn't know how to use ed.
No prob w/o ed :) You can just cat /etc/fstab | grep -v usr
/etc/fstab.new
On 5/4/08 8:37 PM, Lars NoodC)n wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
public domain is not properly defined in the framework of the law.
http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/public_domain/
Public domain is very clearly defined by law: it is the absence of
copyright. If it's public domain, then you and
I dont know if it is the place to ask it, but that window manager uses? And
why?
Regards
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Stephan Andre' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, teco.
Or, SOS
--STeve Andre' (ducks)
AMIS, in fuldamental mode. At least one old hand
will recall times when v7 wasn't much more than
rumours in our part of the world, and the creatures
of rms still were mostly
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:29:42PM -0300, Gonzalo Lionel Rodriguez wrote:
I dont know if it is the place to ask it, but that window manager uses? And
why?
I don't understand the question. Are you asking what window manager I
use? icewm: small, easy to configure, has a taskbar for frequently
Denis Doroshenko wrote:
...
the faq continuously repeats root partition where (i believe) root
filesystem is actually meant. it is confusing, as a partition may
be primary or secondary, then OpenBSD supports only primary
partitions and only one per drive (unless something changed since)
and
I've been having trouble building releases for 4.3. It fails on
checkflist, apparently it doesn't expect to see /etc/firmware/ral-rt2860.
Output is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/distrib/sets# sh checkflist
115a116
./etc/firmware/ral-rt2860
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/distrib/sets# echo $?
1
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