Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Martijn van Duren
Hi Patrick, On 05/25/13 02:39, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: Hi Richard Actually I am not looking for a Windows clone, just a software-correct GUI. I don't need much too. I need text input widgets and a way to display graphs. The graphs could be grammatically created images that are independent of

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Jan Stary
On May 24 18:48:05, spell_gooder_...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: While about 7 out of the 9 years with Linux have been good, the graphical experience on Linux has plummeted for me. I don't really want to send prospective customers to Linux any more. I am fearing that Windows may end up being

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread zz
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 06:48:05PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed with it. It had several menubuttons for application that were not yet installed. There is more than just Fluxbox out there. That's UNIX world, it is up to you and you have plenty of

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I am happy to see fellow-thinkers. GUIs are moving to a disaster. Windows 2000 was usable, heck even Windows 7, once its features are tuned, is a good and usable OS! But have you seen Windows 8? It is pure crap for desktop use. GNOME became a monstrum.. and Mac was nice... years ago. The

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Dmitrij Czarkoff
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Patrick Mc(avery spell_gooder_...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed with it. It had several menubuttons for application that were not yet installed. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Patrick Mc(avery

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Jan Thanks for mentioning this, if it ships with Open BSD then it's going to be correct. It might just be a matter of making it a bit pretty. On 13-05-25 03:56 AM, Jan Stary wrote: On May 24 18:48:05, spell_gooder_...@spellingbeewinnars.org wrote: While about 7 out of the 9 years with

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Ricardo I am curious which scientific instrumentation application that was? I have heard about the odd one that will run on Mac but it's an industry 99% dominated by Windoze. I tried GNUstep and wrote it off because it was so black it looked like crap. My approach has changed a lot since

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Bofh Thanks for bringing this up. I wrote off the idea of using a web based solution a long time ago. However things have changed a lot since then. I could deploy the application on a Raspberry PI or Olimex board and people could access it from Windows machines via their internal network.

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Martijn Thanks for bringing up an excellent point. I also need to figure out what widget toolkit to use. I have used WXPython, GTK with about 6 or 7 bindings, QT, TK and FLTK in the past. Many bindings are nightmares and some like QT are so huge that it's like assembling pre-fabricated

Route bad address

2013-05-25 Thread Cesar Calvo
Hi people. I have a linux server a try to migrate to openbsd 5.3/amd64. I am totatly new in this amazing OS. In linux I have: ifconfig net1 200.124.200.125/29 route add -net 190.64.x.x dev net1 route add gateway 190.64.x.x dev net1 All packets from net1 ip are delivery via 190.64.x.x gateway.

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi ag, Hello Nicolai, Hi zz, Hello Dmitrij I hope you don't mind, I thought I would create a combined answer in hopes of not upsetting people with too many of my posts. I very much appreciate all your responses. I don't mind extra work at all and I can try to customize things, my concern is

Route bad address

2013-05-25 Thread Cesar Calvo
Hi people. I have a linux server a try to migrate to openbsd 5.3/amd64. I am totatly new in this amazing OS. In linux I have: - ip addr 200.124.200.125/32 dev net1 - ip route add 190.64.x.x dev net1 - ip route add default via 190.64.x.x All packets from net1 ip are delivery via

Route Bad address or network unreacheable

2013-05-25 Thread Cesar Calvo
Hi people. I have a linux server a try to migrate to openbsd 5.3/amd64. I am totatly new in this amazing OS. In linux I have: - ip addr 200.124.200.125/32 dev net1 - ip route add 190.64.x.x dev net1 - ip route add default via 190.64.x.x All packets from net1 ip are delivery via

Re: Hyper-V drivers?

2013-05-25 Thread Carson Chittom
Guillaume Filion g...@logidac.com writes: I did some tests with OpenBSD 5.3 running as a Hyper-V 2012 virtual machine and the performance is disappointing (see http://guillaume.filion.org/blog/archives/2013/05/openbsd_networking_performance_hyperv_2012.php for data). At the risk of sounding

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: Hi Ricardo I am curious which scientific instrumentation application that was? I have heard about the odd one that will run on Mac but it's an industry 99% dominated by Windoze. it was simulation software for VHDL for implementation on VLSI or FPGAs, the

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:39:17PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: Hi Richard Actually I am not looking for a Windows clone, just a software-correct GUI. I don't need much too. I need text input widgets and a way to display graphs. The graphs could be grammatically created images that are

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:19:56AM +, z...@sdf.org wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 06:48:05PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed with it. It had several menubuttons for application that were not yet installed. There is more than just Fluxbox out

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Thomas Adam
On 25 May 2013 16:53, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:19:56AM +, z...@sdf.org wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 06:48:05PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed with it. It had several menubuttons for application that were

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 06:05:43PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: On 25 May 2013 16:53, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:19:56AM +, z...@sdf.org wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 06:48:05PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: I tried to load Fluxbox and was disappointed

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Thomas Adam
On 25 May 2013 18:29, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: There are transient windows annotations that fvwm completely disregards. Can you give me examples of applications which this is lacking in? I bet they behave fine in FVWM 2.6.5. The other thing it doesn't really support is multiple

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Jay Patel
Then you might also want to look into .. http://etoileos.com/etoile/

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread sven falempin
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:39 PM, bofh goodb...@gmail.com wrote: Have you considered HTML5 + CSS? Seriously. + canvas is awesome all we need is webkit (all the window system is just a dying breed) On Friday, May 24, 2013, ag@gmail wrote: Have you considered a thought that XFCE may be

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Marc I have looked at xforms, it is helpful to study to understand FLTK too. Thanks and Thanks to Jay for his post too On 13-05-25 11:51 AM, Marc Espie wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:39:17PM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote: Hi Richard Actually I am not looking for a Windows clone, just

Re: Seeking GUI refuge

2013-05-25 Thread Patrick Mc(avery
Hi Riccardo Your circuit analysis software certainly is scientific software. I should have been more specific. My field is analytical instrumentation software. Examples of instruments would be HPLC systems, Gas Chromatographs, spectrometers etc. I am still on Linux on my primary desktop. I