Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Tony Abernethy wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: anip If a command line tool like git has a 'GUI Helper', then that package is broken (which, I believe, is the case in this situation). The parallel argument is that if any GUI tool has a command line helper function, then that

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:54 PM 7/16/2008 +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:08 PM, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't fix the main problem, however, .. a version control package should NOT be in packages as an X flavor. It was mentioned earlier that there is a non-X version

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:54 PM 7/16/2008 +0200, Landry Breuil wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:08 PM, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't fix the main problem, however, .. a version control package should NOT be in packages as an X flavor. It was mentioned earlier that there is a non-X version

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:23 PM 7/16/2008 -0400, William Boshuck wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:42:15PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: I always do my homework, Is the following mindless word-drool about 'put startx into rc' an example of how you do your homework? Yep, .. though I relied on another post instead

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Marc Espie wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:30:02AM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: If a command line tool like git has a 'GUI Helper', then that package is broken (which, I believe, is the case in this situation). You don't get it, so I'll explain it. Yes, I DO get

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 10:52 AM 7/17/2008 +1000, Damien Miller wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, L. V. Lammert wrote: You know, if you spent 1/10th of the effort that you have wasted ranting on learning the ports system then you could have modified the port to place the X11-requiring bits in a subpackage already

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:03 PM 7/16/2008 -0400, bofh wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:41 PM, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flavors is what enables the no_x11 option. What do you not understand about packages? If CVS requires X, then it requires X. You need to understand OpenBSD's philosophy. Why

'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-15 Thread L. V. Lammert
Depends on tcl-8.4.7p6, .. maybe, .. but what does X have to do with git?? Can't install tk-8.4.7p1: lib not found X11.11.1 Is this a broken dependency or . . . ? Seems like git installed cleanly on 4.2. Lee

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-15 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Will Maier wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:30:36PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: Depends on tcl-8.4.7p6, .. maybe, .. but what does X have to do with git?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tk_%28framework%29 Can't install tk-8.4.7p1: lib not found X11.11.1

Re: Cronolog Apache?

2008-07-11 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:19 PM 7/3/2008 -0400, Olivier Cherrier wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 01:54:45PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like Cronolog would be a good solution for rotating Apache logs when running Chroot'd, as it eliminates the need for stopping/restarting Apache. Can't seem to find any

Broken Webalizer for 4.3?

2008-07-08 Thread L. V. Lammert
OpenBSD Zeus.omnitec.net 4.3 GENERIC#698 i38 Looks like a problem with webalizer: # pkg_add webalizer-2.01.10p5 Can't install gd-2.0.35: lib not found fontconfig.5.1 Dependencies for gd-2.0.35 resolve to: libiconv-1.9.2p5, jpeg-6bp3, png-1.2.22 Full dependency tree is

Re: Broken Webalizer for 4.3?

2008-07-08 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 01:34 PM 7/8/2008 -0500, you wrote: # pkg_add webalizer-2.01.10p5 Can't install gd-2.0.35: lib not found fontconfig.5.1 Looks like fontconfig might have been moved to xbase? WHY?? What's the reason to install X on a production server just to get some bogus libraries for web work? Sounds

Cronolog Apache?

2008-07-03 Thread L. V. Lammert
Seems like Cronolog would be a good solution for rotating Apache logs when running Chroot'd, as it eliminates the need for stopping/restarting Apache. Can't seem to find any info on configuring, .. is anyone using it? Or, is there a better way to rotate logs without stopping Apache?

php curl https?

2008-06-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
There don't seem to be any package dependencies, .. however on a 4.2 machine I can't seem to get php5-curl-5.2.3p0.tgz to connect with an https session. Is there an issue, or have I missed something? Don't see anything in the archives. TIA, Lee

Re: Decipering Understanding IP addressing

2008-05-21 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:36 PM 5/21/2008 -0700, Kendall Shaw wrote: For example, on page 3: IPv4 defines a 32-bit address which means that there are only 232 (4,294,967,296) IPv4 addresses available. 232 what? It should read: 2^32(to the 32rd power) Could be an issue with special characters in

Re: n2k8 network hackathon

2008-05-09 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Jim Razmus wrote: * Gaby vanhegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080508 22:07]: On 8 May 2008, at 20:24, Theo de Raadt wrote: Perhaps some who watch the commit logs have already figured out that most of the network developers are currently involved in a week-long network

Re: How do I set up personal web sites for users?

2008-05-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I have a few questions about how to set up users on my OBSD 4.3 box. I've created a user (Stephanie) on the box, and I've added her to the /etc/ftpchroot file so she can upload stuff to her directory; now I just want her to be able to reach

Re: Use of 'Puffy' Logo *and* weatherproof stickers?

2008-05-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 07:36 PM 5/6/2008 -0400, you wrote: On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project. Sale of those items does not even cover the cost that Austin and I paid our artist to draw the pictures for those items. Just keep that in mind

Re: Problems with 4.1 PHP5 modules

2008-05-02 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 02:42 PM 4/25/2008 -0500, Mark Rolen wrote: L. V. Lammert wrote: PHP is working [cli or web], .. problem is none of the modules are. Both mysql mcrypt, for example, are enabled in php.ini, but neither shows in phpinfo. Have you verified that the *.so files php is looking

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 01:07 PM 4/29/2008 +0200, you wrote: PHP is complete crap and a disaster as a programming language. Java is way too cumbersome. For this kind of use-case, I would definitely use python and twisted+nevow+axiom. Coincidentally, the latest Zend newsletter just showed up - turns out they have

Problems with 4.1 PHP5 modules

2008-04-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
One of my development machine has been upgraded many times over the years, of couse, .. now trying to setup a php test site for a new project (have not had php installed before). For some reason I cannot get any of the PHP *modules* to initialize (they install, but will not appear in phpinfo).

Re: Problems with 4.1 PHP5 modules

2008-04-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 11:28 AM 4/25/2008 -0700, Daniel Anderson wrote: Stupid question here, did you uncomment them in php.ini? Not really a stupid question, but I did - both manually with phpxs. Actually had an error when I enabled curl (it showed as duplicated), so I know php5 is reading the ini file.

Re: Problems with 4.1 PHP5 modules

2008-04-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 11:53 AM 4/25/2008 -0700, Daniel Anderson wrote: Have you tried invoking php from cli and see if you get anything there, guess you'd have to specify your ini file from www/conf manually. I had bad luck with the php5 package on 3.9/amd64 so I just built my own and it worked without an issue.

phpxs apache root?

2008-04-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
Should there not be an option to specify apache root directory for phpxs, or did I miss it? Looked at the code, but it's not clear where phpxs is getting the directory from. Lee

Re: openbsd hosting services

2008-03-17 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 03:14 PM 3/17/2008 -0300, John Nietzsche wrote: Hello, i am in need to host my web application on third party web hosting services, but i have had no luck searching one. My trivial need is common: php, MySQL, web server, ASP with support to MySQL. Why would you be asking a BSD list for

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:09 PM 3/17/2008 -0400, bofh wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Marcus Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... Did you not remind them

Re: running mail server at home

2008-02-08 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:33 AM 2/8/2008 -0500, Jim Razmus wrote: * L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080207 13:30]: At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science and in fact, it is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps: 1. Get

Re: running mail server at home

2008-02-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science and in fact, it is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps: 1. Get a domain name and look for registrars that can host it for you. For example, check this kind of

Re: running mail server at home

2008-02-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote: I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the moment. I am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-assassin on this box along with web, ssh and

Re: running mail server at home

2008-02-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote: Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it didn't. What you forget here is that most don't adhere to standards. Didn't say it wouldn't work, .. but I, for one, don't want to have to call someone to make sure they get my

Re: running mail server at home

2008-02-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 04:54 PM 2/7/2008 -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:06:08PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote: Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it didn't. What you forget here is that most don't adhere

Re: slow network

2008-02-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, [UTF-8] GC!bri MC!tC) wrote: Hey there! I've installed OpenBSD 4.2 on a Compaq DL580 machine and i dunno why but the initial phase of the network connections are really slow. The machine is behing a linksys router with fix ip address, resolv.conf set up correclty. It has

Re: OT: Can an SSH alternative to WebDav be use on OpenBSD

2008-01-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Frank Bax wrote: Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello Daniel, I believe it should be possible to set up samba-over-ssh. I mean samba listening localhost only on the server andputty (www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) with port

Re: Reversing audio channels

2008-01-20 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Antti Harri wrote: Hi, how can I reverse the audio output, left-right and right-left channel? It would help with the placement of my PC's speakers. -- Antti Harri Ahh, .. swap the speakers or wires?? Lee

Re: most secure graphical browser

2008-01-19 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Jona Joachim wrote: On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:47:56 +1300, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: Talking about brainfucked bank sites... My bank checks for the browser's user-agent: Firefox on win32 an Linux passes, Firefox on *BSD is denied access, unless you change the user-agent

Re: How to find all package files

2008-01-07 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 03:33 PM 1/7/2008 +, Russell Gadd wrote: I am new to OpenBSD and I am not sure what is the correct way to find packages. For example I have tried to install the xfce window manager, and at first I looked at the list of files in the packages list and there were a lot of files with xfce

Re: Ethernet jumbo frames?

2007-12-30 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, mufurcz wrote: johan beisser wrote: Fewer frames get corrupted, means less processing overhead per frame. Not true at all - if only the payload is changed. Outside of that, the remaining advantage is fewer frames going over the line. But the same amount of data(!)

Re: Embedding OpenBSD

2007-12-28 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Marco Peereboom wrote: What in the world??? Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected embedded device. Need more examples? Indeed! How many Soekris routers are there in 'production', operating with a config just as suggested? Lee

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

2007-12-27 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, Sajith wrote: Hi its Sajith Is it possible for Merging 2 ADSL lines Regards Sajith It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Lee

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

2007-12-27 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 07:09 PM 12/27/2007 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:13:11AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote: It is possible to share ADSL lines for oubound traffic, .. but no provider I have seen will allow bonding for incoming traffic (e.g. a mail server). Isn't that easily solved with DNS round

Re: Merging 2 ADSL lines

2007-12-27 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:50 AM 12/27/2007 -0800, you wrote: The issue would be reverse DNS - no way I know of to provide RDNS for the same hostname on two different IPs (IF you could get the provide to do RDNS at all!). It would be required for a mail server; it would also farkle a web server for any s/w

Re: 3ware Escalade 7210 (3w7210) supported in OpenBSD?

2007-12-26 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Matthias Tarasiewicz wrote: i have to replace a 3ware 6500 ata-pci card and since i could get a 3ware Escalade 7210 quite cheap i was wondering, if that card is compatible with openbsd? - the hardware compatibility site for openbsd says 3W-7x00 - anyone has the 7210

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007, Jon Radel wrote: Rico Secada wrote: Again lets ask Boing. I'm fully aware that spelling flames are terribly tasteless, but the image of planes loaded with Ada code going boing, boing, boing down the runway just won't leave my mind. It's Boeing. Ada was just coming

Re: RS-232 serial PCMCIA cards and/or USB 2.0 serial adapaters

2007-12-08 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: I simply bought a USB serial adaptor. The cheapest that Bamboo Charlie had in stock. It just worked. It was so low priced that if it didn't I'd have just tossed it in the spare parts box and bought another. AFAIK most of them work. There are

Re: how best to handle DNS on firewalled home network?

2007-11-15 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Daniel Melameth wrote: On 11/15/07, Jonathan Thornburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (a) When the firewall boots, after the outside network is configured (via /etc/rc running dhclient) a shell/grep/perl script on the firewall copies the DNS server addresses from

Re: Need help with wordpress install.

2007-11-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, James wrote: On 11/4/07, nuffnough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/11/2007, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just thought of something else, too. are you using an install of apache from ports, or the default version in OpenBSD? Because the default version is

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: You apparently missed my post. Allow me to re-summarize the situation. No, I didn't. There is *nothing* in any virtualization software that makes having it *more secure* than not having it at all. Is that direct enough for you? No, because it's

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:56 PM 10/24/2007 -0700, you wrote: L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: security issues and protections do not add up like numbers. Sure they do. If I'm running Windoze as a guest OS, there are hundreds or thousands of possible vulnerabilities. If I'm runng OBSD as a guest OS, guess

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:46 PM 10/24/2007 -0400, you wrote: On 10/24/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, it's YOU that missed the point! I never said or made any comparison to physical machines - the entirety of that I said is: Running services/application domains in VMs increases security. As I

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:53 PM 10/24/2007 -0400, you wrote: L. V. Lammert wrote: The more discrete the security model (i.e. File/Print users are not valid on the httpd server) the better. There's something I think you don't see here. Let's assume, for a moment, that you have a VM host running two guests, one

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:15 PM 10/24/2007 -0700, you wrote: On 10/24/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no clue what you're trying to say??? The original comment was the the number of vulnerabilities is a inverse measure of the security risk associated with a given OS. Please stop feeding

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:57 PM 10/24/2007 -0400, you wrote: You apparently missed my post. Allow me to re-summarize the situation. There is *nothing* in any virtualization software that makes having it *more secure* than not having it at all. Is that direct enough for you? Perfectly clear, and I agree

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 08:06 PM 10/24/2007 -0400, Brian wrote: Hi! I think you are missing the point about x86 hardware being a mess. No, I'm not. The discussion has nothing to do with hardware, but thanks for the info. Lee

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:01 PM 10/25/2007 +1000, Damien Miller wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, L. V. Lammert wrote: I still stand by my original statement. Running application 'domains' in VMs instead of on a single server increases security. It no worse security-wise to run applications on VMs rather than

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:23 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, you wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 10:06 AM, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: There is *nothing* in any virtualization software that makes having it *more secure* than not having it at all. Is that direct enough

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:08 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, Stuart VanZee wrote: The reason that people are going to #2 is that, if you are concerned about security, that is the optimal way of setting things up. One box, one task. That is true separation. In this light, the question of if #3 is more secure than #1 is

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:23 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: On Oct 25, 2007, at 10:06 AM, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: There is *nothing* in any virtualization software that makes having it *more secure* than not having it at all. Is that direct

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 02:28 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, Jason Dixon wrote: Sure you do. You claim that the following statement is wrong, but you don't offer any explanation. That's crap. There is *nothing* in any virtualization software that makes having it *more secure* than not having it at all. Quit dodging

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 03:09 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, Stuart VanZee wrote: Quite frankly, I tire of your dumb-ass attitude. This was VERY ON TOPIC. Indeed it is! I also tire of the dumb replies that don't have any relationship to the original subject. Security for the applecation domain is a function of the

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 01:58 PM 10/25/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Certainly! That is not the point, however. The point is that users of OTHER 'application domains' have better security with a VM (or one of the other approaches discussed) because THEIR environment has no ability to interact

Re: FW: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:08 PM 10/25/2007 -0400, Stuart VanZee wrote: I finally get it... LEE! YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIUS! Beautiful! [Taking Bow]

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Henning Brauer wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-24 03:03]: Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits seems? to whom? Virtualization provides near absolute security - DOM0 is not visible to the user at all, only passing network traffic

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Paul de Weerd wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:31:26AM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: | On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Henning Brauer wrote: | | * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-24 03:03]: | Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits | | seems

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:12 PM 10/24/2007 +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-24 16:46]: Virtualization provides near absolute security - DOM0 is not visible to the user at all, only passing network traffic and handling kernel calls. The security comes about in that each DOMU

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:03 PM 10/24/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Anything we can do to increase security, *including* setting up VMs (of any flavor) is an improvement [that also increased hardware utilization]. This last sentence is such a lie. That depends on your viewpoint. There certainly may be

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: The security benefits are at the application level, *NOT* at the OS level. What hogwash. The security benefits are at the ability to buy a steak for dinner level. Nah, I like steak, I hate enterprise computing. You've already made the decision

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Theo de Raadt wrote: At 12:03 PM 10/24/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Anything we can do to increase security, *including* setting up VMs (of any flavor) is an improvement [that also increased hardware utilization]. This last sentence is such a lie.

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 03:31 PM 10/24/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Certainly there is a small, compount risk increase due to multiple OS images involved, but the OS images must be analyzed independently FIRST, and THOSE risks addressed. Certainly you pulled that assesment out of your ass. I thought it was

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 11:26 PM 10/24/2007 +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-24 23:22]: Running different application domains on separate VMs provides isolation BETWEEN those application domains. no, it does not. Is that your ostrich response? Lee

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:27 PM 10/24/2007 -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: L. V. Lammert wrote: gibberish Wow, such intelligence Now we get crap instead of ostrich logic. Sheesh. Lee

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Brian wrote: Hi! I think you are missing the point about x86 hardware being a mess. Theo made an excellent point about the architecture itself having so many filthy quirks. If a VM is compromised through any means, that attacker can now leverage the dirty architecture

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 05:44:37PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: At 05:27 PM 10/24/2007 -0500, Tony Abernethy wrote: L. V. Lammert wrote: gibberish Wow, such intelligence Now we get crap instead of ostrich logic. Sheesh. Actually

Re: About Xen: maybe a reiterative question but ..

2007-10-24 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Jeremy Huiskamp wrote: On 24-Oct-07, at 5:59 PM, L. V. Lammert wrote: At 03:31 PM 10/24/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: You must be more qualified with regards to the actual code than I am because I flat out don't believe this at all. Believe what? OBSD is secure

Re: How do I configure sendmail?

2007-10-16 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:21:36PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: On 10/16/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/10/16, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have read the man pages of afterboot, sendmail, and also looked at

Re: OpenBSD is loosing cd and tshirt sales

2007-10-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Marcos Laufer wrote: The OpenBSD project is loosing sales. I am trying to buy some tshirts and the 4.2 prerelease but nobody answers my emails at the Calgary shop. If you had placed an order instead of complaining about it, you would have your gear already, like the rest

Re: Thank you developers... 4.2 arrived in the mail today

2007-10-09 Thread L. V. Lammert
Check this out - go the shipping notice **AND** the package today! Just in time to update a new server before going online. Lee Leland V. Lammert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation Network/Internet

Re: ms exchange replacement

2007-10-03 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, mcb, inc. wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, bofh wrote: Is there even anything that's a full sexchange replacement? Postpath did a reverse engineering job on exchange and has what is reputed to be a full replacement. Effort must have left quite a few engineers with brain

Re: ms exchange replacement

2007-10-03 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 10:59 PM 10/2/2007 +0200, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:06:00AM -0700, Lord Sporkton wrote: i am looking into an exchange replacement, im looking to have use of calender appointments, tasks and mail all through a central server, also i have multiple windows based

Re: msdos partitions, made by Windows

2007-10-03 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 02:40 PM 10/3/2007 -0500, Robert C Wittig wrote: On a machine that dual-boots both Windows 2000 and OpenBSD 4.0, I have a second data hard drive (wd1) with two primary partitions, FAT32L, which were created by Windows 2000. Mount fails because they do not have OBSD disklabels... Device not

Re: RAID1 powerloss - can parity rewrite be safely backgrounded?

2007-09-28 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Matt wrote: Brian A. Seklecki schreef: As for the suggestion of hardware raid - unfortunately this is a live server. If I migrate it to another machine I will definitely try hardware raid I know it is a lot faster but would that solve the parity problem on boot

Re: OBSD's perspective on SELinux

2007-09-22 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Hello all, I'm running OBSD on my older boxes but still Debian on my big box (not ready yet). Linux has SELinux in its 2.6 kernel and debian has gone ahead and compiled SELinux into the libraries, although the SELinux policies aren't ready on

Re: serial port usage

2007-09-14 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 12:00 PM 9/14/2007 -0400, Trash Compactor wrote: Alternatively, you can put puc(4) cards into an OpenBSD box or hook up a tangle of ucom(4) adapters to a tree of powered USB hubs There are several multi-port USB-serial adapters available. You can get bus-powered ones up to around 8 DB9

mc-4.6.1p1 is broken (4.1)

2007-09-14 Thread L. V. Lammert
Posted to ports-bugs, .. but nobody caught it. Has anyone else noticed the p1 package is broken [Warning: Cannot change to directory - known bug]? Is there a simple way to revert to p0 (which does work)? Lee

Re: mc-4.6.1p1 is broken (4.1)

2007-09-14 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/09/14 16:49, L. V. Lammert wrote: Posted to ports-bugs, .. but nobody caught it. TBH, I never noticed that list before. Most ports discussion is on ports@ (cc'd and reply-to set) or with the relevant maintainer (see the output from

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-11 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 08:52 AM 9/11/2007 -0600, Mark Zimmerman wrote: Here's a link to the removal page from U3: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ ah, thanks for the link. Is it possible to remove it with fdisk/disklabel/newfs_msdos, or is it more insidious than that? -- Mark Last time I tried to

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 10:33 PM 9/10/2007 +0200, Andrea Ferraresi wrote: I think that the best choice is FAT32 it will works out-of-the-box on all systems a usb stick isn't a device that must have some performance IMHO Watch out for USB sticks!! Many now are coming with 'U3' - a piece of crap piece of s/w that

Re: filesystems?

2007-09-10 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/09/10 23:54, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: oh, so that's what happened when I put my new 4GB USB stick into a Windows machine. On OpenBSD, it just mounted like regular (but looking at messages right now it actually shows up as an emulated

Re: ifconfig problem - Botched upgrade?

2007-08-06 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:19 AM 8/6/2007 -0700, Greg Thomas wrote: The reason for this is a different one. Interface routes are all added to the routing table. The /32 route for the alias is necessary because the real network is already in the table. Additionally it helps choosing the main interface address for

apachectl configtest rc.conf?

2007-08-05 Thread L. V. Lammert
Is there a reason $RCFLAGS is omitted from configtest in apachectl? Currently: configtest) if $HTTPD -t; then : else ERROR=8 fi ;; Should be: ?? configtest) if $HTTPD $RCFLAGS -t; then : else

Re: Seeking info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD

2007-08-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Joel Knight wrote: --- Quoting HDC on 2007/08/02 at 20:26 -0300: Read this... http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/http://www.packetmischief .ca/openbsd/ I used to use raidframe and followed the procedures in that doc for doing so, but now there's no

ifconfig problem - Botched upgrade?

2007-08-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
In the process of upgrading a test machine from 3.9 - 4.0 - 4.1, something seems have to gotten farkled with ifconfig and/or network config. Can't find any clues in the upgrade docs. Is there something funky with 4.0 - 4.1? Could file permissions have gotten off-track somewhere? Symptoms;

Re: ifconfig problem - Botched upgrade?

2007-08-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 04:11 PM 8/4/2007 -0500, you wrote: In the process of upgrading a test machine from 3.9 - 4.0 - 4.1, something seems have to gotten farkled with ifconfig and/or network config. Can't find any clues in the upgrade docs. Is there something funky with 4.0 - 4.1? Could file permissions have

Re: ifconfig problem - Botched upgrade?

2007-08-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 10:40 PM 8/4/2007 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: # ifconfig add -A to show all aliases. Bingo - I must have missed that somehow!! Thanks!! Lee

Re: 3ware 9650SE support

2007-07-27 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there plans to support 3ware's 9650SE SATA RAID controller? If so, will it be far off? Thanks in advance Check the archives. There was early work done with 3ware hardware many years ago, and many current controllers WILL work with twe driver.

Re: Recommendations for zone management (web)tool for Bind?

2007-06-25 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:31 PM 6/25/2007 +0200, you wrote: Hello, Although aware of the general aversion against web gui's on this list (which I understand) I still would like to be able to allow people to manage their own zonefile. Webmin will do what you wish, .. but it might take some scripting to manage

Re: Quad ethernet card

2007-06-05 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Robert Franklin wrote: Why not a qfe card from Sun? I've used a quad port Sun PCI card for at least a few years in both me Sun AXI servers, and currently I have one installed in a dell 1550 that works just fine. You can find the Sun quad cards for really cheap off of ebay.

Re: Instant Messenger client

2007-05-30 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Diana Eichert wrote: If you're running a recent post 4.1 install there is also net/pidgin, a port for it was added to the tree on May 28th. diana FYI, I was just looking for GAIM on another machine and it seems to have been *replaced* by Pidgin. Lee

Re: https file transfer

2007-05-18 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 03:31 PM 5/18/2007 -0400, stuart van Zee wrote: I have just been handed a new project and would like to know if anyone has any software suggestions that would fit the requirements or at least a point in the right direction. We need to have an https server running that users can upload

Re: login and password

2007-05-04 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 09:49 AM 5/4/2007 -0700, bubka20 wrote: I received the congratulations message that openbsd was installed. Upon rebooting I see openbsd/i386 (puffy) (tty0) and I am prompted for login: and password: How do I find out my login and password? ... thanks What root password did you enter

Re: NFS mount by non-root

2007-04-26 Thread L. V. Lammert
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Tor Houghton wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:33:47AM +, Douglas Maus wrote: Is it possible for users (non-root) to mount NFS exports? I seem to be able to mount_nfs using sudo, but not as a regular user. I actually want to allow regular users to mount the NFS

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