On 1/9/08, NetOne - Doichin Dokov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bacula (www.bacula.org) is your friend.
yes, bacula is great. I just discovered, that it is in ports (even as
package available), so I have to use it on OpenBSD yet, but it
can't be harder to set up than on other platforms.
I prefer it
On Jan 7, 2008 7:22 AM, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/4/08, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you verify the whole disk is readable? And if it's all
readable, how do you ensure the data is still the same pattern you put
on before?
the posting von hannah shows what to
On 8 Jan 2008, at 08:08, Nick Guenther wrote:
On Jan 7, 2008 7:22 AM, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/4/08, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you verify the whole disk is readable? And if it's all
readable, how do you ensure the data is still the same pattern
you put
on
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:48:03AM +, Khalid Schofield wrote:
On 8 Jan 2008, at 08:08, Nick Guenther wrote:
On Jan 7, 2008 7:22 AM, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the posting von hannah shows what to do. Ths big picture is this:
Backup (and/or archiving) is not fire-and-forget. You have
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-08 15:33]:
I'm seriously looking into getting a tape drive but, of course, I can't
afford a new one. I'll see what I can get on the commercial-used market
(not eBay) with a bit of a waranty (beyond DOA). Right now, it would be
connected to my
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 03:37:36PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
I know that the FAQ says to just use dump to make backups but what if
you want a tape of a specific group of files for archiving? When last
did the dump format change? Since it reads the filesystem directly, I'd
assume
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I know that the FAQ says to just use dump to make backups but what if
you want a tape of a specific group of files for archiving? When last
did the dump format change? Since it reads the filesystem directly,
I'd
assume that its
On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
However, if you have one directory you wish to put on tape, e.g. as an
archive of old OS .iso's (in case the origionals get scratched), as
far
as I know, you can't use dump (which is only for entire filesystems).
Or, is there any reason
On 2008/01/08 10:29, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
However, if you have one directory you wish to put on tape, e.g. as an
archive of old OS .iso's (in case the origionals get scratched), as far
as I know, you can't use dump (which is only for entire filesystems).
dump(8) manual says:
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-08 17:31]:
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 03:37:36PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
I know that the FAQ says to just use dump to make backups but what if
you want a tape of a specific group of files for archiving? When last
did the dump format
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 04:42:59PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
On 2008/01/08 10:29, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
However, if you have one directory you wish to put on tape, e.g. as an
archive of old OS .iso's (in case the origionals get scratched), as far
as I know, you can't use dump (which
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I know that the FAQ says to just use dump to make backups but what if
you want a tape of a specific group of files for archiving? When last
did the dump format change? Since it reads the filesystem directly,
I'd
assume that its
Douglas A. Tutty ??:
On Jan 8, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I know that the FAQ says to just use dump to make backups but what if
you want a tape of a specific group of files for archiving? When last
did the dump format change? Since it reads the filesystem directly,
On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Well, right now, I just do full backups. Incrementals get rather
tedius. Especially since they find new files but they don't notice a
file that has been deleted. So I don't need a list of what files
are in
which tarball but rather just
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 06:25:44PM -0800, johan beisser wrote:
For a little while, I've had a project on my plate to create a simple
backup system that'd use rsync to mirror the directory for easy
access, and then have versions going back X-months that can be
archived to tape, etc,
On 1/4/08, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/3/08, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is becoming OT, but I can't recommend storing HDDs as real
backup solution either. HDDs _do_ have bitrot, and one should at least,
say, once a year, verify that the *whole* disk is readable,
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 01:22:53PM +0100, knitti wrote:
Backup (and/or archiving) is not fire-and-forget. You have to know how
long you want to store this data to choose the right technology and
media. And you have to have a process to verify that your data is good
after this time. If you want
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:29:38AM +0100, Erik Wikstr??m wrote:
file-server which will contain stuff with some emotional value, data- loss.
Houses burn.
Dump/tar scp/ftp offsite to your box or web space.
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-04 03:55]:
I thought that there was a trend in the industry away from tapes toward
hard-drive-based systems, e.g. virtual tape libraries that are basically
large file servers with far more capacity than throughput.
yes, because decision makers tend
Hi!
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:47:11AM -0500, Nick Guenther wrote:
On 1/3/08, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/3/08, Marius Hooge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally don't recommend backups to CD/DVD.
They degenerate rather quickly depending on their quality and
the storage
On 1/3/08 11:35 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:10:59PM +0100, knitti wrote:
..
this is becoming OT, but I can't recommend storing HDDs as real
backup solution either. HDDs _do_ have bitrot, and one should at least,
say, once a year, verify that the *whole* disk is
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:40:44PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote:
On 1/3/08, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought that there was a trend in the industry away from tapes toward
hard-drive-based systems, e.g. virtual tape libraries that are basically
large file servers with far more
On 1/4/08 6:22 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
How well do tapes written with one drive read on another?
Good, provide you use serious designed tape drives.
Presuably, drives don't last for 30 years.
..
How robust are the drives? How well do they age?
It's difficult to speak for other
On Thu, January 3, 2008 07:58, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
... snip
With any kind of reasonable Internet access, rsync to another machine
is extremely easy to set up and maintain, and once the initial
duplication of all data is done the periodic (say once or twice a day)
transfer is almost not
Doug wrote:
2. I don't know the size of the disk to know the size of the backup
media required. However, CD/DVD burners are less than the cost
of a hard drive and the media is relatively cheap.
I personally don't recommend backups to CD/DVD.
They degenerate rather
On 1/3/08, Marius Hooge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug wrote:
2. I don't know the size of the disk to know the size of the backup
media required. However, CD/DVD burners are less than the cost
of a hard drive and the media is relatively cheap.
I personally don't recommend
Stuart Henderson wrote:
It wouldn't be more likely that the disk _crashes_ by doing this,
and it may give _some_ protection against _some_ failure modes.
It also gives new and exciting ones to take their place.
Actually, since you'd be mirroring to two different portions of the
same disk
On 2008/01/03 16:59, Tobias Weingartner wrote:
Stuart Henderson wrote:
It wouldn't be more likely that the disk _crashes_ by doing this,
and it may give _some_ protection against _some_ failure modes.
It also gives new and exciting ones to take their place.
Actually, since you'd be
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-03 23:34]:
If neither hard drives nor CD/DVDs are a good backup soluton, and
networking the backup to another computer's hard drive (which then
presumably also has the bitrot problem) isn't an option, and a DLT or
whatever tape drive is too
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:36:31PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-03 23:34]:
If neither hard drives nor CD/DVDs are a good backup soluton, and
networking the backup to another computer's hard drive (which then
presumably also has the bitrot
On Jan 3, 2008 8:47 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:36:31PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-03 23:34]:
If neither hard drives nor CD/DVDs are a good backup soluton, and
networking the backup to another
On 1/3/08, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought that there was a trend in the industry away from tapes toward
hard-drive-based systems, e.g. virtual tape libraries that are basically
large file servers with far more capacity than throughput. If bitrot is
a serious concern,
On 1/3/08, knitti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/3/08, Marius Hooge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally don't recommend backups to CD/DVD.
They degenerate rather quickly depending on their quality and
the storage humidity.
Unlike a USB/Firewire harddisk inside your fire-, water-,
Hi
I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my
parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any
extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a
file-server which will contain stuff with some emotional value, data- loss.
The
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Erik Wikstrvm wrote:
The preferable way to solve this would probably be to use two disks
but
that is not an option for me. So I was wondering if it is possible to
instead split the disk in two parts, the first is used to install
OpenBSD on, and the rest is split in
Erik WikstrC6m wrote:
Hi
I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my
parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any
extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a
file-server which will contain stuff with some emotional
Erik Wikstrvm wrote:
Hi
I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my
parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any
extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a
file-server which will contain stuff with some
On 2008/01/03 01:29, Erik Wikstrvm wrote:
The preferable way to solve this would probably be to use two disks but
that is not an option for me. So I was wondering if it is possible to
instead split the disk in two parts, the first is used to install
OpenBSD on, and the rest is split in two and
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Hi
I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my
parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any
extra money
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:29:38AM +0100, Erik Wikstr??m wrote:
I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my
parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any
extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a
file-server which
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