Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread lists
Sun, 22 May 2016 19:21:13 +1000 > > Using XHTML 1.0 Strict wouldn't be a bad idea, since this is supported This is not so convincing proof, nor reasoning. Any document type is just as good as the other when the internals match the definition, as long as the type is

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 07:34:19PM +1000, bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2016 03:50:51 +0300 > li...@wrant.com wrote: > > > Interesting, the moment some other systems started swapping designs, > > the moment their public knew they've sold out and commercialised in. > > This is

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread Reinhold Straub
On 22.05.16 11:21, bytevolc...@safe-mail.net wrote: On Sun, 22 May 2016 09:32:47 +0200 Reinhold Straub wrote: It doesn't seem like this change offers any merit whatsoever. For narrow windows 'height="100%" width="100%"' scales the puffy image down. Scaling reduces the

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread bytevolcano
On Fri, 20 May 2016 03:50:51 +0300 li...@wrant.com wrote: > Interesting, the moment some other systems started swapping designs, > the moment their public knew they've sold out and commercialised in. This is a good point; I have certainly noticed this on a lot of other sites and projects. As

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread bytevolcano
On Sun, 22 May 2016 09:32:47 +0200 Reinhold Straub wrote: > On 21.05.16 01:12, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > I think the site is fine. Thanks for the table above. I agree > > there would be value in small tweaks to improve the view for narrow > > displays. > > Wouldn't it

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-22 Thread Reinhold Straub
On 21.05.16 01:12, Theo de Raadt wrote: I think the site is fine. Thanks for the table above. I agree there would be value in small tweaks to improve the view for narrow displays. Wouldn't it suffice to replace alt="[OpenBSD 5.9]"> with style="max-height:199;max-width:599" alt="[OpenBSD

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-21 Thread Craig Skinner
On 2016-05-20 Fri 17:12 PM |, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > This is a project that does rapid incremental changes. --

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-20 Thread Theo de Raadt
>existing site proposed new site >- - > window width wide narrow wide narrow > > firefoxgreat mediocre (2)mediocre (3) poor (3,4) > arora

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-20 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
I tried both the current site (http://www.openbsd.org) and the proposed new site (http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/openbsd/index.html) using a variety of OpenBSD 5.8-stable web browsers, displaying on a monitor with 96x97 pixels/inch. Sometimes one wants to have GUI web browsers share

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-20 Thread jungle Boogie
On 20 May 2016 at 07:00, Mike wrote: > On 5/19/2016 6:03 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: >>[snip] >> >> I find this page easier to read > > I'm having difficulty understanding the seemly wholesale rush toward > low-contrast and [sometimes] nearly-illegible [very light grey on white]

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-20 Thread Mike
On 5/19/2016 6:03 PM, jungle Boogie wrote: >[snip] > > I find this page easier to read I'm having difficulty understanding the seemly wholesale rush toward low-contrast and [sometimes] nearly-illegible [very light grey on white] text on "modern" web pages.

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-19 Thread lists
> > The idea is to replace index.html but for all other pages just ^^^ The technical term is ``deface'' and maybe this thread could be ignored. > > replace the stylesheets. In so far, I’ve included a few other > > pages, including plat.html, goals.html and alpha.html.

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-19 Thread jungle Boogie
On 17 May 2016 at 00:11, Joakim Frostegård wrote: > I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > > It’s available at http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/public_html/ >

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread arrowscript
>Is this thread to be taking serious? That's exactly my thought, Mihai. I think this thread fall under the "Poe's Law": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law >lists () wrant ! com wrote: >As most development is done on mobile phones these days This doesn't mean the only sane operating

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread lists
Wed, 18 May 2016 18:08:52 +0200 Joakim Frostegård > > Everybody, thanks for the constructive feedback. As for the snarky > neo-luddite remarks, they were entertaining too [...] > I changed the colors a bit. Now, the contrast between the links and the > background is a

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Mihai Popescu
Is this thread to be taking serious?

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Adam Wolk
On Wed, 18 May 2016 18:08:52 +0200 Joakim Frostegård wrote: > Everybody, thanks for the constructive feedback. As for the snarky > neo-luddite remarks, they were entertaining too ;-) No, I'm not a > product of new-age college professors wanting to demolish the >

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 06:08:52PM +0200, Joakim Frosteg??rd wrote: > > [...] > > @Gilles Chehade: > If you're not being sarcastic, I would be happy to contribute to that > project as well. > Didn't know I came off sarcastic naturally, achievement unlocked ! I wasn't sarcastic, nope ;-) --

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Pavan Maddamsetti
On May 18, 2016 1:49 PM, wrote: > > this is not a community for Iphone hipsters. > Stop trying to push your user centered design bullshit. Ouch. I wouldn't put it in those words, but you are sure to encounter resistance when "fixing" things that are not broken. Perhaps you

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread arrowscript
>I think it's more important to have good mobile support than perfect console browser support. I agree with Kamil, this is not a community for Iphone hipsters. Stop trying to push your user centered design bullshit. Also, no requests for outside servers should be done, and your template uses

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
On Wed, 18 May 2016, Joakim Frostegård wrote: > I think it's more important to have good mobile support than perfect > console browser support. Actually, bad mobile support is one of the > biggest problems with the current site. You have to cater to your audience...

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread Joakim Frostegård
Everybody, thanks for the constructive feedback. As for the snarky neo-luddite remarks, they were entertaining too ;-) No, I'm not a product of new-age college professors wanting to demolish the Colosseum., though HTML5 and mobile support is nice. When it comes to searching the archives, I did

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-18 Thread bytevolcano
I agree, we need buttons with rounded corners and ones that appear when you hover your mouse over them. Those hyperlinks in the current OpenBSD site are sharp and someone could poke their eyes out. On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:00:54 +0530 Jay Patel wrote: > I would like to see

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Jay Patel
I would like to see openbsd.org in http://openbsdfoundation.org/ this style On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Joakim Frostegård < joakim.frosteg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread lists
Tue, 17 May 2016 13:04:26 -0400 "Ted Unangst" > Joakim Frostegård wrote: > > The idea is to replace index.html but for all other pages just > > replace the stylesheets. In so far, I’ve included a few other > > pages, including plat.html, goals.html and alpha.html. > > > >

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Ted Unangst
Joakim Frostegård wrote: > The idea is to replace index.html but for all other pages just > replace the stylesheets. In so far, I’ve included a few other > pages, including plat.html, goals.html and alpha.html. > > I’ve tried to keep the page without bells and whistles, that is: > * Just static

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread lists
Tue, 17 May 2016 09:11:44 +0200 Joakim Frostegård > I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > It’s available at http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/public_html/ You did a wonderful

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread trondd
On Tue, May 17, 2016 3:11 am, Joakim FrostegÃ¥rd wrote: > Hi, > > Iâ**ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > > Iâ**ve tried to keep the page without bells and whistles, that is: > * Just static HTML and CSS > * No

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
It definitely looks better on my iPhone. Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Joakim Frostegård wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > > It’s

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread bytevolcano
The reason the OpenBSD site hasn't changed for years, aka. "aged", is because there is no need to change just for change's sake. A lot of problems in this world are caused by the young generation being taught to "ALWAYS IMPLEMENT CHANGE!" by new-agey college professors and teachers. In fact,

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread ludovic coues
2016-05-17 9:11 GMT+02:00 Joakim Frostegård : > Hi, > > I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > > It’s available at http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/public_html/ >

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 09:11:44AM +0200, Joakim Frosteg??rd wrote: > Hi, > > I???ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the > in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . > > It???s available at http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/public_html/ >

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Marko Cupać
On Tue, 17 May 2016 09:23:26 +0100 Fred wrote: > I do not see how this is improving the life of the developers who are > doing a fantastic job building a great operating system. What about improving the life of admins and users who are doing a fantastic job with help of a

Re: Suggestion: new webpage for openbsd.org

2016-05-17 Thread Fred
On 05/17/16 08:11, Joakim Frostegård wrote: Hi, I’ve made a responsive new webpage replacement for the in my opinion somewhat aged openbsd.org . It’s available at http://greatest-ape.github.io/openbsd-site/public_html/