Re: tmpfs

Sun, 31 Jul 2016 20:44:05 +0200 mxb [...] > I asked. > So this one you can send to /dev/null. Привет mxb, Говорит /dev/ноль, один раз только, послушайте осторожно, пожалуйста. The fact you're being answered to, is out of politeness. Because you talk in public, and

Re: tmpfs

ng great job. > > > > > Original message From: Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> Date: 8/2/16 21:13 (GMT+01:00) To: Sonic <sonicsm...@gmail.com> Cc: bytevolc...@safe-mail.net, Marc Espie <es...@nerim.net>, misc <misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: tmpfs >> On Tue, A

Re: tmpfs

t>, misc <misc@openbsd.org> Subject: Re: tmpfs > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@openbsd.org> wrote: > > Whoa.  You haven't read the first paragraph of current.html, let me > > include it here: > > > >     Active OpenBSD deve

Re: tmpfs

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > I see you have selected only the parts of my reply which suit you. > > The rest of my reply clearly stated we don't have people to do the > work you want. > >> I doubt I'm the only non-developer who counts on that file to

Re: tmpfs

> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Whoa. You haven't read the first paragraph of current.html, let me > > include it here: > > > > Active OpenBSD development is known as the -current branch. These > > sources are frequently compiled into

Re: tmpfs

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Whoa. You haven't read the first paragraph of current.html, let me > include it here: > > Active OpenBSD development is known as the -current branch. These > sources are frequently compiled into releases known as

Re: tmpfs

> I'm one of the guys who would very much like working tmpfs. Actually, it > has worked "good enough for me", but there are a few issues at work. > > - I lack the time needed to fully dive into the kernel part. > - naddy did say multiple times it doesn't go all that fast compared to ffs > with

Re: tmpfs

>I don't know why this thread got out of hand. But, as the OP I really >had just two points. One was that, like myself, there may have been >many others using tmpfs (due to the upbeat announcement of its >inclusion). This is OpenBSD. Things change. > And that two, there was no indication of its

Re: tmpfs

I don't know why this thread got out of hand. But, as the OP I really had just two points. One was that, like myself, there may have been many others using tmpfs (due to the upbeat announcement of its inclusion). And that two, there was no indication of its removal in the "following -current" faq,

Re: tmpfs

Marc Espie wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 02:53:43AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: ... Nope, I'm rather sure Theo doesn't care one way or the other. I'm one of the guys who would very much like working tmpfs. Actually, it has worked "good enough for me", but there are a few issues at work. - I

Re: tmpfs

On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 02:53:43AM -0400, Eric Furman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 06:41 AM, Marko Cupa?? wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:48:46 +0300 > > Consus wrote: > > > > > Come on, both you and Theo are such drama queens. Shut up already. > > > > This. But I'd say

Re: tmpfs

That is why I wanted that the openbsd related USENET groups do not be deleted. In USENET there is more tolerance toward "stupid" questions, toward more off-topic. USENET is there just for dialog, not for archiving important postings. But no one was interested here on the groups. Rodrigo. On

Re: tmpfs

On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 02:53:43 -0400 Eric Furman wrote: > The guy was just being a troll and Theo saw right through him. > At the risk of sounding like a troll myself since I don't know the > whole story behind tmpfs, I am going to guess that the tmpfs fiasco > was not one

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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, at 06:41 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:48:46 +0300 > Consus wrote: > > > Come on, both you and Theo are such drama queens. Shut up already. > > This. But I'd say there's more to it. The guy was just being a troll and Theo saw right through

Re: tmpfs

On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:48:46 +0300 Consus wrote: > Come on, both you and Theo are such drama queens. Shut up already. This. But I'd say there's more to it. I don't know how things were back when OpenBSD has just been forked, but I imagine it was something like a wave. Maybe

Re: tmpfs

mxb wrote: ... For someone who "doesn't use tmpfs" or "doesn't care that much" about it, you sure are making a racket on this thread.

Re: tmpfs

On 23:02 Sun 31 Jul, mxb wrote: > Mine is sane. No, it's not. Your email contains valid UTF-8 symbols but mime states that it is in us-ascii: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Really, just shut up and fix it. It's that simple :)

Re: tmpfs

Baikal too! > On 31 juli 2016, at 22:13, ʞiᴌᴌʍᴀᴎ ḂØԲH wrote: > > Alpine is great! > > _ > U N I X L e g i o n . c o m > hacking the world > Network operations center > +593 995 956811 | +593 7 2952-763 > > """This email and any files transmitted with it

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Mine is sane. Yours just couple of thousands years after. Fix yours. > On 31 juli 2016, at 21:46, Consus wrote: > > On 20:53 Sun 31 Jul, mxb wrote: >> ?? ?? ?? ??, ?? . >> ?? ?? ??

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Alpine is great! _ U N I X L e g i o n . c o m hacking the world Network operations center +593 995 956811 | +593 7 2952-763 """This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are

Re: tmpfs

For Trumps sake Kids, put some gloves on and do it like proper coders or grab a drink together and talk it out… Hugs, Steve > On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:54, mxb wrote: > > Who gives a sh*t?! > Ppl supporting OpenBSD community what matters - with userbase without users is >

Re: tmpfs

On 20:53 Sun 31 Jul, mxb wrote: > ?? ?? ?? ??, ?? . > ?? ?? ?? ??. Also fix your goddamn mail client. Your encoding is shit.

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Else it is just a discussion. > On 31 juli 2016, at 20:48, Consus wrote: > > drama

Re: tmpfs

Good one. But private messages are not appreciated So misc is in loop. Sorry to pollute your private space. > On 31 juli 2016, at 20:38, Karel Gardas wrote: > > Could you be so kind and move this conversation out of misc@ > > Thanks! Karel > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:54 PM,

Re: tmpfs

Как у нас говорят, за базар надо отвечать. В Швеции ему это предоставится. > On 31 juli 2016, at 20:47, mxb wrote: > > Я Русский, и что с этого? > >> On 31 juli 2016, at 20:37, Aioi Yuuko

Re: tmpfs

On 19:54 Sun 31 Jul, mxb wrote: > Who gives a sh*t?! > Ppl supporting OpenBSD community what matters - with userbase without users is > like masturbating. > > Ppl like me test public diffs on live equipment, donate money and buy CDs so > Theo can continue to milk this project > so he can bike in

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Я Русский, и что с этого? > On 31 juli 2016, at 20:37, Aioi Yuuko wrote: > > Stop making Russians look bad. Some of us like OpenBSD

Re: tmpfs

He didn’t answered about mirrors. I asked. So this one you can send to /dev/null. > On 31 juli 2016, at 20:37, Aioi Yuuko wrote: > > See your previous message re: mirrors.

Re: tmpfs

Could you be so kind and move this conversation out of misc@ Thanks! Karel On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:54 PM, mxb wrote: > Who gives a sh*t?! > Ppl supporting OpenBSD community what matters - with userbase without users is > like masturbating. > > Ppl like me test public

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> Who gives a sh*t?! This project, as it happens. > Ppl supporting OpenBSD community what matters - with userbase without users > is > like masturbating. What is this obsession with masturbating? Linus has it too. At least you get credit for not mentioning monkeys. > Ppl like me test public

Re: tmpfs

Who gives a sh*t?! Ppl supporting OpenBSD community what matters - with userbase without users is like masturbating. Ppl like me test public diffs on live equipment, donate money and buy CDs so Theo can continue to milk this project so he can bike in Canadian woods. As we speak it in Russia:

Re: tmpfs

Guess which one of you and theo have it's name all over the CVS tree ? 2016-07-31 16:37 GMT+02:00 mxb : > While looking at the mirror, read your last email once again. > > >> On 30 juli 2016, at 19:58, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> >> Yeah, you sure are

Re: tmpfs

While looking at the mirror, read your last email once again. > On 30 juli 2016, at 19:58, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Yeah, you sure are the cool dude. > > Despite the existance of people like you, OpenBSD has been > progressing as working code for 20 years. > > > And

Re: tmpfs

Yeah, you sure are the cool dude. Despite the existance of people like you, OpenBSD has been progressing as working code for 20 years. And what have you added. Just words. Mean ones about things you later say you don't are about. Just layers of spite from you when it is pointed out your

Re: tmpfs

I don't appreciate the private reply. Adding misc back in. > On 30 juli 2016, at 16:29, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Just shut up.

Re: tmpfs

Missed "CC all" last time. You or any other actually answered my questions. Your “jumps” are as usual. I understand that best way to defend is to actually attack. This kind of answer I received is expected. I could add more to this mail, but I’d rather not. > On 29 juli 2016, at 23:04, Theo de

Re: tmpfs

I don't appreciate the private reply. Adding misc back in. > 1. I don't use tmpfs. So for me - I don' care that much. If you don't care, then don't talk about it. In particular, don't send a message which criticizes the approaches we take to make OpenBSD more robust. Don't act butt-hurt in

Re: tmpfs

> Are there any "gatekeepers" around the code? What is a gatekeeper? Is it a maintainer? If you want this code, step up. > I thought "tech" was the best place to release > questionable code? What kind of release are you talking about? We are closer to using "cvs rm" as a release mechanism.

Re: tmpfs

Are there any “gatekeepers” around the code? I thought “tech” was the best place to release questionable code? //mxb > On 29 juli 2016, at 18:14, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Because the code quality is crap.

Re: tmpfs

> I remember a bit of fanfare when tmpfs was enabled in OpenBSD - > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article=20131217081921 and at the > time switched from using mfs to tmpfs. At the time it appeared that > tmpfs solved some mfs issues. It seems we've come full circle and > noticed during a perusal

Re: tmpfs weirdness

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 05:11:35PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Also, it should be noted tmpfs allocates the entire amount of memory available by default. Nope. Your wording is incorrect. mfs *reserves* memory. tmpfs doesn't. If you want to put limits on it, you can use parameters to mount to

Re: tmpfs weirdness

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: there are some interesting patches in bitrig that you could try to apply in the openbsd tree, recompile your kernel and see if any of them help. https://github.com/bitrig/bitrig/commit/c2ce175 Fix integer overflows handling objects

Re: tmpfs weirdness

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 05:11:35PM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: Also, it should be noted tmpfs allocates the entire amount of memory available by default. Nope. Your wording is incorrect. mfs *reserves* memory. tmpfs

Re: tmpfs weirdness

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 03:30:51AM -0500, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Chris Cappuccio wrote: there are some interesting patches in bitrig that you could try to apply in the openbsd tree, recompile your kernel and see if any of them help.

Re: tmpfs weirdness

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: With a tmpfs mounted on /tmp: $ cd /tmp $ dd if=/dev/zero of=0 bs=1M ; sync ; sleep 5 ; rm 0 results in dmesg getting spammed with: uao_flush: strange, got an out of range flush (fixed) Forgot to mention, this is on amd64 with a