problem with dhcpd on a bridge ?
I have setup a bridge following the faq http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Bridge (no filtering) $ cat /etc/bridgename.bridge0 add sis0 add sis2 up $ cat /etc/hostname.sis0 192.168.x.x 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.255 description LAN $ cat /etc/hostname.sis2 up $ brconfig bridge0 bridge0: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp designated: id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 0 sis2 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 3 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 sis0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 1 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:21:70:d6:76:5a sis2 1 flags=0 00:23:32:d9:56:d8 sis0 1 flags=0 I start dhcpd with: # /usr/sbin/dhcpd sis0 ral0 if started with bridge0 and/or sis2, /var/log/daemon returns Dec 5 08:32:54 soekris4801 dhcpd[20667]: Can't listen on bridge0 - it has no IP address. Dec 5 08:33:41 soekris4801 dhcpd[6656]: Can't listen on sis2 - it has no IP address. And I believe it's not needed (one interface of the bridge equals all of them) Dhcpd is working on sis0 with another system but doesn't answer to the box on sis2. tcpdump can see arp and bootp request from the station but there is no response from dhcpd. Don't know why. Hints ? If I configure static IP configuration, network access is good. really seems limited to dhcpd. thanks a lot. Best regards, Julien dmesg (note: update to 4.6 planned) OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC) #0: Thu Apr 30 01:03:28 CEST 2009 r...@soekris4801.vpn.www:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by National Semi (Geode by NSC 586-class) 267 MHz cpu0: FPU,TSC,MSR,CX8,CMOV,MMX cpu0: TSC disabled real mem = 133787648 (127MB) avail mem = 120946688 (115MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 20/80/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf7840 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable. pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc8000/0x9000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Cyrix GXm PCI rev 0x00 sis0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83816A: irq 10, address 00:00:24:c3:58:cc nsphyter0 at sis0 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 sis1 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83816A: irq 10, address 00:00:24:c3:58:cd nsphyter1 at sis1 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 sis2 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83816A: irq 10, address 00:00:24:c3:58:ce nsphyter2 at sis2 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 ral0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:12:0e:61:7f:c0 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT5225 gscpcib0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 NS SC1100 ISA rev 0x00 gpio0 at gscpcib0: 64 pins NS SC1100 SMI rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 18 function 1 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 18 function 2 NS SCx200 IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to co mpatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD1600BEVE-00UYT0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 geodesc0 at pci0 dev 18 function 5 NS SC1100 X-Bus rev 0x00: iid 6 revision 3 wdstatus 0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 Compaq USB OpenHost rev 0x08: irq 5, version 1.0, legacy support isa0 at gscpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 nsclpcsio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: NSC PC87366 rev 9: GPIO VLM TMS gpio1 at nsclpcsio0: 29 pins gscsio0 at isa0 port 0x15c/2: SC1100 SIO rev 1: npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Compaq OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 biomask f3e5 netmask ffe5 ttymask softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
Re: problem with dhcpd on a bridge ?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 10:00:23AM +0100, jul wrote: I have setup a bridge following the faq http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Bridge (no filtering) $ cat /etc/bridgename.bridge0 add sis0 add sis2 up $ cat /etc/hostname.sis0 192.168.x.x 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.255 description LAN $ cat /etc/hostname.sis2 up $ brconfig bridge0 bridge0: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp designated: id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 0 sis2 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 3 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 sis0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 1 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:21:70:d6:76:5a sis2 1 flags=0 00:23:32:d9:56:d8 sis0 1 flags=0 I start dhcpd with: # /usr/sbin/dhcpd sis0 ral0 if started with bridge0 and/or sis2, /var/log/daemon returns Dec 5 08:32:54 soekris4801 dhcpd[20667]: Can't listen on bridge0 - it has no IP address. Dec 5 08:33:41 soekris4801 dhcpd[6656]: Can't listen on sis2 - it has no IP address. And I believe it's not needed (one interface of the bridge equals all of them) Dhcpd is working on sis0 with another system but doesn't answer to the box on sis2. tcpdump can see arp and bootp request from the station but there is no response from dhcpd. Don't know why. Hints ? If I configure static IP configuration, network access is good. really seems limited to dhcpd. thanks a lot. Best regards, Julien dmesg (note: update to 4.6 planned) Update to -current since this got fixed at h2k9 by Theo and myself. Bridge did a terrible job when forwarding traffic to other ports which resulted in most bpf listeners not seeing parts of the traffic. -- :wq Claudio
Re: setxkbmap break network
Update: So at least I'm able to display text with Czech characters written in UTF-8. Just start uxterm and in it : $ luit -encoding 'UTF-8' emacs index.html then you can see text in Czech without problems (vi,vim,gvim have problems). But until I can use cz keyboard it's half solution. 2009/12/4 Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda acam...@the00z.org: On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:41:12AM +0100, TomC!E! BodEC!r wrote: Hi all, someone have similar problem? When I try : $ sudo setxkbmap cz $ then my network connection stop responding and I must run : $ sudo sh /etc/netstart In Xorg.log there is same error as here https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21761 Before this error I can see line with : mtrr set failed: Invalid argument OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #325: Sat Nov 28 18:58:05 MST 2009 B B dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,C X16,xTPR real mem B = 3707650048 (3535MB) avail mem = 3608199168 (3441MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/17/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffa10, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf6510 (57 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A17 date 09/17/2009 bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E6400 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET DMAR APIC ASF! MCFG TCPA SLIC SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S4) PCIE(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S3) USB5(S3) USB6(S3) EHC2(S3) EHCI(S3) AZAL(S3) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) RP03(S4) RP04(S3) RP05(S3) RP06(S5) LID_(S3) PBTN(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,C X16,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIE) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 11 (RP01) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 12 (RP02) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 13 (RP03) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 107 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model DELL MP4948B serial 36706 type LION oem Samsung SDI acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpivideo0 at acpi0: VID_ acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT_ acpivout1 at acpivideo0: LCD_ acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DVI_ acpivout3 at acpivideo0: DVI2 acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DP__ acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DP2_ acpivideo1 at acpi0: VID_ acpivout6 at acpivideo1: CRT_ acpivout7 at acpivideo1: LCD_ acpivout8 at acpivideo1: DP__ acpivout9 at acpivideo1: DP2_ acpivout10 at acpivideo1: DVI_ acpivout11 at acpivideo1: DVI2 acpivideo2 at acpi0: VID2 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800! 0xcf800/0x800 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2394 MHz: speeds: 2401, 2400, 1600, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11) drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH9 IGP M AMT rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 10), address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 20 (irq 3) uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 10) ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 10) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801I HD Audio rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 11) azalia0: codecs: IDT 92HD71B7, Intel/0x2802, using IDT 92HD71B7 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 16 (irq 0) pci1 at ppb0 bus 11 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 17 (irq 0) pci2 at ppb1
mpi error on DELL1655MC and 4.5 -stable
Hello misc, I am getting this message mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 every 10 seconds on console and /var/log/messages. The system is DELL PowerEdge 1655MC with PERC4/mi LSI logic hardware raid controller, RAID1 (mirror) enabled, hard drives synced, OpenBSD 4.5 -stable as of December 3 2009. Dmesg at the bottom. I was searching the archives but found no solution. Here is the output of bioctl: r...@mail. ~ # bioctl mpi0 bioctl: BIOCVOL: Invalid argument r...@mail. ~ # bioctl /dev/mpi0 bioctl: Can't locate /dev/mpi0 device via /dev/bio What does this message mean and should I rely on this server? Thanks for the help, Ivo Dmesg: OpenBSD 4.5-stable (GENERIC.MP) #4: Thu Dec 3 20:09:48 EET 2009 r...@tftp.office...:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - S 1266MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.26 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 2146992128 (2047MB) avail mem = 2067759104 (1971MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/24/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfb040 (44 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Computer Corporation version A00 date 09/24/2002 bios0: Dell Computer Corporation PowerEdge 1655MC acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) PCI1(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 1 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 0 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - S 1266MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.26 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 16 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2 ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfec01000, version 11, 16 pins ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 3 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1000 0xcc000/0x4000 0xd/0x1800 0xd1800/0x1800 0xec000/0x4000! pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x06 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x06 pci1 at pchb1 bus 1 bge0 at pci1 dev 10 function 0 Broadcom BCM5703X rev 0x02, BCM5703 A2 (0x1002): apic 3 int 1 (irq 10), address 00:06:5b:ee:4a:47 bge1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 Broadcom BCM5703X rev 0x02, BCM5703 A2 (0x1002): apic 3 int 0 (irq 7), address 00:06:5b:ee:4a:48 mpi0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0x07: apic 3 int 3 (irq 14) scsibus0 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: DELL, VIRTUAL DISK, 1000 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 69878MB, 512 bytes/sec, 143110145 sec total mpi0: phys disk 1 Sync at 80MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 0 mpi0: phys disk 0 Sync at 80MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 0 DT 1 IU 0 vga1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks CSB5 rev 0x93: polling iic0 at piixpm0 admtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x18: adm1023 admtemp1 at iic0 addr 0x4c: adm1023 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB SDRAM registered ECC PC133CL2 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB SDRAM registered ECC PC133CL2 ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB rev 0x05: apic 2 int 11 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support pchb2 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 ServerWorks CSB5 LPC rev 0x00 usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 ServerWorks OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 mpi0: can't get RAID vol cfg page 0 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4661 (20091204) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
spamd greylisting and 2nd MX question
Hi, I am using the -M option of spamd and I am seeing a lot good servers being trapped because they tried the secondary MX first. What I am assuming is that they tried the primary MX, which created a greylist entry. But this entry expired, and after that, they tried to connect to the 2nd MX. If I increase the greyexp value of the -G option (which is the default of 4 hours), I suppose the greylist entryfor these servers will last longer. Is there a chance that by doing so I will see less traps for this reason? Thanks in advance. Regards, Jose
HP Mini Touchpad Broken in Recent Snapshots
With recent snapshots, the touchpad on my HP Mini netbook stopped working. Here is a dmesg for a few months back when the touchpad worked followed by one from the most recent snapshot: http://16systems.com/hp/hp-mini-110-1020NR.txt http://16systems.com/hp/hp_mini_broken_touchpad.txt
Re: spamd greylisting and 2nd MX question
I certainly do not see this behaviour. sounds to me very likely that your primary is not reachable for some reason and they are trying the secondary. 2009/12/5 inet_use...@samerica.com: Hi, I am using the -M option of spamd and I am seeing a lot good servers being trapped because they tried the secondary MX first. What I am assuming is that they tried the primary MX, which created a greylist entry. But this entry expired, and after that, they tried to connect to the 2nd MX. If I increase the greyexp value of the -G option (which is the default of 4 hours), I suppose the greylist entryfor these servers will last longer. Is there a chance that by doing so I will see less traps for this reason? Thanks in advance. Regards, Jose
Re: HP Mini Touchpad Broken in Recent Snapshots
With recent snapshots, the touchpad on my HP Mini netbook stopped working. Here is a dmesg for a few months back when the touchpad worked followed by one from the most recent snapshot: http://16systems.com/hp/hp-mini-110-1020NR.txt http://16systems.com/hp/hp_mini_broken_touchpad.txt However nothing changed in the PS/2 input devices code in between. Does this happen upon everyboot (i.e. 100% reproduceable)? Does this happen on cold boots? Miod
How to disable IPv6?
I have disabled IPv6 in the kernel (via top-level GENERIC) but I can't see what other places it needs to be disabled for other applications. Is it enabled per-application or is there some magic in a top-level Makefile somewhere? This IPv6 is like Whak-A-Mole. Or is it just so pervasive now that it cannot be disabled? I don't have a need to partake in the IPv6 research right now. For all you IPv6 cheerleaders, please just resist the temptation to cheer this time. I promise I'll re-enable the shit when my toaster does IPv6.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Saturday 05 December 2009 14:25:02 rhubbell wrote: I have disabled IPv6 in the kernel (via top-level GENERIC) but I can't see what other places it needs to be disabled for other applications. Is it enabled per-application or is there some magic in a top-level Makefile somewhere? This IPv6 is like Whak-A-Mole. Or is it just so pervasive now that it cannot be disabled? I don't have a need to partake in the IPv6 research right now. For all you IPv6 cheerleaders, please just resist the temptation to cheer this time. I promise I'll re-enable the shit when my toaster does IPv6. Future intelligent toast makers aside, why do you want to do this? You aren't going to save much memory unless you're running on some 486 based system, and you will have created a frankensystem, that is one which the OpenBSD community isn't going to be enthusiastic about helping you. You are free of course to make mods, but please understand that you are on your own for them. I suppose it could also be said that if you need help in turning ipv6 off, you shouldn't--learn first how things work before making such a modification. I don't think most of the people reading this are ipv6 fans, either. --STeve Andre'
Re: HP Mini Touchpad Broken in Recent Snapshots
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: With recent snapshots, the touchpad on my HP Mini netbook stopped working. Here is a dmesg for a few months back when the touchpad worked followed by one from the most recent snapshot: http://16systems.com/hp/hp-mini-110-1020NR.txt http://16systems.com/hp/hp_mini_broken_touchpad.txt However nothing changed in the PS/2 input devices code in between. Does this happen upon everyboot (i.e. 100% reproduceable)? Does this happen on cold boots? Miod Yes, it occurs each boot 100%. Cold boots too. I can plug a mouse in and that works fine, but the touchpad and touchpad buttons don't work. Maybe the hardware is broken. I'll try to dig up an old snapshot and reload it to see. Brad
building sbin/route on -current?
I updated my local source tree Tuesday. Rebuilding the kernel went fine, but building userland failed at sbin/route with the following messages: === sbin/route cc -02 -pipe -nostdinc -idirafter /usr/dest/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/route/route.c cc -02 -pipe -nostdinc -idirafter /usr/dest/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/route/show.c cc -static -o route route.o show.o route.o(.text+0x2a06): In function 'rdomain': : undefined reference to 'setrdomain' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/route (line 95 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk). *** Error 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin (line 48 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk). *** Error 1 Stop in /usr/src (line 48 of /usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk). *** Error 1 Stop in /usr/src (line 73 of Makefile). Guessing that my tree may not be pristine, I deleted /usr/src downloaded again via AnonCVS last night. Subsequent rebuilding of the kernel today went fine, but building userland failed again in sbin/route. I'm not seeing anything in Following -current, but is there something else that I am missing? Thanks.
Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:33:22 -0200 Rodrigo Amorim Bahiense wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 08:20:16AM +, Matthieu Herrb wrote: On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Peter Miller feu...@gmail.com wrote: I have 4.6 amd64 installed and can't get X to work at 1280x800. --snip-- Stay away from nVidia graphics cards, especially on laptops if you want to run an open source system on it. -- Matthieu Herrb Can you point some good manufacturers, please? Yes, I'd like to see some pointers also. I recall that there was discussion (might've been on linux kernel) a while ago about a partially-open video card. Why doesn't the community support that? I recall that price was a factor in lack of uptake. Seems to me that opensource is farsical if it runs on closesource hardware. So where's the opensource hardware? Seems like the new world order isn't going to allow that. The trend in hardware looks like a race to keep control. Seems like we are going to be paying for the hardware but not owning; instead leasing. Or am I behind the times and there's salvation from some beneficent hardware maker in Taiwan?
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:39:39 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: You are free of course to make mods, but please understand that you are on your own for them. I suppose it could also be said that if Ha, yeah, I feel so alone. you need help in turning ipv6 off, you shouldn't--learn first how So you don't know, but couldn't resist the reply (^:
Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: Yes, I'd like to see some pointers also. I recall that there was discussion (might've been on linux kernel) a while ago about a partially-open video card. Why doesn't the community support that? You mean http://www.opengraphics.org ? What makes you say that? How did *you* contribute? I recall that price was a factor in lack of uptake. Seems to me that opensource is farsical if it runs on closesource hardware. So where's the opensource hardware? Seems like the new world order isn't going to allow that. The trend in hardware looks like a race to keep control. Seems like we are going to be paying for the hardware but not owning; instead leasing. Or am I behind the times and there's salvation from some beneficent hardware maker in Taiwan? Making hardware is a lot more difficult than writing software. So it takes more resources and more skills. This is probably why there aren't so many of them. I'd recommend you read the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS -- Matthieu Herrb
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Saturday 05 December 2009 15:07:43 rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:39:39 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: You are free of course to make mods, but please understand that you are on your own for them. I suppose it could also be said that if Ha, yeah, I feel so alone. you need help in turning ipv6 off, you shouldn't--learn first how So you don't know, but couldn't resist the reply (^: To be honest, I have never tried. There was a time back in 1999 when made 'shrimp' kernels to save space by eliminating all the drivers I thought I didn't need. Things seemed to be going ok for several weeks with it, till I crashed the kernel somehow. I was very puzzled, but had the presence of mind to build a stock generic kernel and see if that worked, before talking about it on m...@. The generic kernel worked flawlessly, doing everything ok when the shrimp kernel worked. Oops. That taught me several things, being twiddling knobs (taking drivers from the kernel surely constitues that) blindly can lead to interesting consequences down the line, and that making the shrimp kernel was mostly a waste of time, except for the educational aspects of what not to do. --STeve Andre'
Re: HP Mini Touchpad Broken in Recent Snapshots
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: With recent snapshots, the touchpad on my HP Mini netbook stopped working. Here is a dmesg for a few months back when the touchpad worked followed by one from the most recent snapshot: http://16systems.com/hp/hp-mini-110-1020NR.txt http://16systems.com/hp/hp_mini_broken_touchpad.txt However nothing changed in the PS/2 input devices code in between. Does this happen upon everyboot (i.e. 100% reproduceable)? Does this happen on cold boots? Miod Yes, it occurs each boot 100%. Cold boots too. I can plug a mouse in and that works fine, but the touchpad and touchpad buttons don't work. Maybe the hardware is broken. I'll try to dig up an old snapshot and reload it to see. Brad Looks like my touchpad is broken. I loaded the same snapshot as the first dmesg and the touchpad still did not work. Oh well, I'll use a mouse. Brad
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:28:09 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: mostly a waste of time, except for the educational aspects of what not to do. Thanks for the nice story. I get a kick out of how far folks here go out of their way not to help people out. Instead offering up non-sequitars, etc. Come on admit it, you don't know how to disable IPv6. Why does everyone place so much trust in OpenBSD when the kernel seems to be a mystery to most here with constant warnings about not fiddling with it Curiouser and curiouser.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:44:42PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:28:09 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: mostly a waste of time, except for the educational aspects of what not to do. Thanks for the nice story. I get a kick out of how far folks here go out of their way not to help people out. Instead offering up non-sequitars, etc. Come on admit it, you don't know how to disable IPv6. Why does everyone place so much trust in OpenBSD when the kernel seems to be a mystery to most here with constant warnings about not fiddling with it At least some developers hang on misc@ and surely know how to disable ipv6. The question is: do they care?
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:44 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:28:09 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: mostly a waste of time, except for the educational aspects of what not to do. Thanks for the nice story. I get a kick out of how far folks here go out of their way not to help people out. Instead offering up non-sequitars, etc. You could also do more digging around yourself. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/conf/GENERIC?rev=1.150 Look for INET6.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: At least some developers hang on misc@ and surely know how to disable ipv6. The question is: do they care? In my experience, no.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 21:30 +0100, Matthieu Herrb wrote: Making hardware is a lot more difficult than writing software. So it takes more resources and more skills. Sorry Matthieu, but I have to say that this is utter bullshit, and I believe such underestimation is the underlying reason that many software suck. Read this for a summary of cognitive requirements of software design: http://argouml.tigris.org/docs/robbins_dissertation/diss2.html And yes, I did hardware design too. But no, I have no intension to compare hardware and software development like you did. I usually resist replying such threads and keep my silence, but your comment above begged for it.
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Re: [PATCH] Fix interrupt handling in ral(4) for RT2661 under load
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 08:31:07PM -0800, Roland Dreier wrote: The interrupt handling in ral(4) for RT2661 has a couple of problems, which causes the interface to get stuck under heavy load with OACTIVE set (the problems are likely especially severe on slow systems such as my 600MHz VIA system); bouncing the interface down and back up fixes things. As I describe below, I think I've been able to fix it, and I'd be happy to see the patch below reviewed and applied. I've seen other reports that look similar to the problems I was having; eg bug kernel/5958 starts out talking about RT2860 (which is completely different code) but some of the me too replies are for RT2561S, which I hope this patch fixes (I've cc'ed those reporters; test reports welcome!). I've not looked at the RT2860 code due to lack of hardware, but if someone wants to send me a PCI card I've found an unused RT 2561 and did some tests with it. The first problem is that multiple TX completions may happen before the interrupt handler gets to rt2661_tx_intr(). When this happens, the TX interrupt handler only completes one entry in the TX ring, which leads to the driver getting behind the hardware. To fix this, I extended the qid field in the TX descriptor to contain the index in the TX ring as well as the queue ID, and then when an interrupt is missed, free the earlier TX entries as well as the entry that the interrupt is for. (I did see this code trigger under load) This exposes the second problem: there is a race that is inherent in separating TX completion handling between TX DMA interrupts and TX interrupts -- the driver may handle all the TX DMAs that finished when it called rt2661_tx_dma_intr(), but by the time it gets to rt2661_tx_intr(), another TX may have completed and the driver may end up processing a TX completion for which it hasn't handled the TX DMA completion. This ends up leaking mbufs if a new send is enqueued before the TX DMA interrupt has a chance to catch up. (This happens in practice on my system as well) It is probably possible to fix this and keep the split DMA/TX handling, but that seems to require unneeded complexity. Instead, we can just ignore TX DMA interrupts and handle everything when the TX actually completes. This means we don't free the mbuf quite as soon, but since we can't reuse the slot in the TX ring anyway, I don't see this as a problem in practice. With this patch applied, the ral interface on my access point is able to continue operating under load that would cause the interface to get stuck with the stock driver fairly quickly. I don't see any difference between your patch and -current (but it does work, no issues) Mind sharing your hostname.ral0 and the tools you use to trigger this situation? I've tried hping, tcpbench, ping -f, rsync, etc to no avail. max ~8000 intr/s with hping 2.5MB/s with scp OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #0: Sat Dec 5 16:13:19 CET 2009 tobi...@neodym.tmux.org:/home/tobiasu/obsd/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 1.84 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 1610117120 (1535MB) avail mem = 1551433728 (1479MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 05/17/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfa390, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0100 (38 entries) bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F6 date 05/17/2005 bios0: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. GA-7S748 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (slowidle) apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xc784 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfc6f0/144 (7 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 6 9 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:02:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf600 0xd/0x8000! cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 746 PCI rev 0x10 sisagp0 at pchb0 agp0 at sisagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x400 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 86C202 VGA rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 vendor ATI, unknown product 0x9505 rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x25 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x00: 746: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PLEXTOR, CD-R PX-W1210A, 1.02 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST3250620A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238474MB, 488395055 sectors wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1:
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: Come on admit it, you don't know how to disable IPv6. Why does everyone place so much trust in OpenBSD when the kernel seems to be a mystery to most here with constant warnings about not fiddling with it At least some developers hang on misc@ and surely know how to disable ipv6. The question is: do they care? Other than adding rhubbell to the list of people who probably broke it themselves, not really.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
man ifconfig...is a quick and easy way to disable inet6 on any interface. Beyond that I'm thinking sysctl, did you peruse around before posting ? Johan Beisser wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:44 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:28:09 -0500 STeve Andre' wrote: mostly a waste of time, except for the educational aspects of what not to do. Thanks for the nice story. I get a kick out of how far folks here go out of their way not to help people out. Instead offering up non-sequitars, etc. You could also do more digging around yourself. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/conf/GENERIC?rev=1.150 Look for INET6. -- Allie
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Soner Tari so...@comixwall.org wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 21:30 +0100, Matthieu Herrb wrote: Making hardware is a lot more difficult than writing software. So it takes more resources and more skills. Sorry Matthieu, but I have to say that this is utter bullshit, and I believe such underestimation is the underlying reason that many software suck. I think the point is the tools to make software are more readily available than the tools to make hardware. Let's say so you want to make a graphics card. Let's also say that you're only interested in playing quake3. What does it take to party like 1999? About 150 MHz on a 180nm process. And what does it cost to fab some 180nm chips? More than I've ever spent on all the computers I've ever written software with.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:57:58 -0800 Johan Beisser wrote: You could also do more digging around yourself. I'd say that applies to you, not me. (^:
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:01:34 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: Other than adding rhubbell to the list of people who probably broke it themselves, not really. Nothing's broken here. Hope you didn't strain a muscle jumping to conclusions. (^: Well nothing other than the pervasiveness of IPv6 into every nook and cranny with no apparent way to shut it off by pulling one switch. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. Apparently there's unity with out the comm.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:52:35 +0200 Jussi Peltola wrote: ipv6. The question is: do they care? Not sure how care plays into this. A simple question that the folks here would rather not answer but instead would rather meander about.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: I have disabled IPv6 in the kernel (via top-level GENERIC) but I can't see what other places it needs to be disabled for other applications. Needs to be disabled ...to accomplish what goal? Saving of disk space? Elimination of code complexity? Ignoring of IPv6 packets that are received? Something else? Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, putting up -inet6 in your /etc/hostname.* files may be sufficient. Is it enabled per-application or is there some magic in a top-level Makefile somewhere? This IPv6 is like Whak-A-Mole. Or is it just so pervasive now that it cannot be disabled? I don't have a need to partake in the IPv6 research right now. Sounds like you would prefer if the presence of IPv6 wasn't making the code more complex. If so, the answer is no, it cannot be disabled in that way. Philip Guenther
Re: How to disable IPv6?
Feeding the troll, sorry. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: Not sure how care plays into this. A simple question that the folks here would rather not answer but instead would rather meander about. I gave you the file where GENERIC for all kernels is configured. If you bothered to look, you'd have seen and figured it out for yourself. You didn't bother. You want to be coddled and hand-fed answers, and that's fine if you don't mind sticking with what's supported. Otherwise, teach yourself.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:08:36 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: More than I've ever spent on all the computers I've ever written software with. How much would that be? Ballpark. Doesn't seem like it would be very much. Seems like you're just hand-waving without real numbers. Wikipedia has a money-raised thermometer on their site from time-to-time and they're raising millions.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:30:28 +0100 Matthieu Herrb wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: Yes, I'd like to see some pointers also. I recall that there was discussion (might've been on linux kernel) a while ago about a partially-open video card. Why doesn't the community support that? You mean http://www.opengraphics.org ? What makes you say that? How did *you* contribute? Why did I say that? Let's take a poll on this list of how many people are using one of those cards? Or any list, anywhere. I have not contributed to it in anyway. But why is that relevant? Can you explain? And how did you contribute? I recall that price was a factor in lack of uptake. Seems to me that opensource is farsical if it runs on closesource hardware. So where's the opensource hardware? Seems like the new world order isn't going to allow that. The trend in hardware looks like a race to keep control. Seems like we are going to be paying for the hardware but not owning; instead leasing. Or am I behind the times and there's salvation from some beneficent hardware maker in Taiwan? Making hardware is a lot more difficult than writing software. So it takes more resources and more skills. This is probably why there aren't so many of them. You're saying the barrier to entry is too high? I'm not expert but I don't believe that is why. There are other barriers. I'd recommend you read the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS I think I may have read that a while ago...I'll look.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
Not sure how care plays into this. A simple question that the folks here would rather not answer but instead would rather meander about. Well you're especially chipper, now instead of whining on mailing lists.. how about you try helping yourself? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=124414310527723w=2 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c#rev1.216 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ifconfigmanpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html Feeling better now? next time.. for a successful troll.. at least pretend to do some research. Here's a tissue, everybody gets one. -Bryan.
Re: building sbin/route on -current?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, James Hartley jjhart...@gmail.com wrote: I updated my local source tree Tuesday. Rebuilding the kernel went fine, but building userland failed at sbin/route with the following messages: === sbin/route cc -02 -pipe -nostdinc -idirafter /usr/dest/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/route/route.c ... Guessing that my tree may not be pristine, I deleted /usr/src downloaded again via AnonCVS last night. Subsequent rebuilding of the kernel today went fine, but building userland failed again in sbin/route. I'm not seeing anything in Following -current, but is there something else that I am missing? Whatever directions you've followed that suggest that you can compile a system without installing it are wrong, or at least insufficient. Philip Guenther
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
Come back and talk when you've bought one for yourself, and donated another to the project. KTHX HAND On 12/5/09, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:08:36 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: More than I've ever spent on all the computers I've ever written software with. How much would that be? Ballpark. Doesn't seem like it would be very much. Seems like you're just hand-waving without real numbers. Wikipedia has a money-raised thermometer on their site from time-to-time and they're raising millions. -- Sent from my mobile device http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: How to disable IPv6?
User: there's a knob I want to twiddle, but don't know how... Community: Don't User: but I wanna, I wanna. Developers: don't, really User: I know what I'm doing, so there Community: . User: why is everyone ignoring me? Where's the love? Everyone: it's hard to love the village idiot On 12/5/09, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:01:34 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: Other than adding rhubbell to the list of people who probably broke it themselves, not really. Nothing's broken here. Hope you didn't strain a muscle jumping to conclusions. (^: Well nothing other than the pervasiveness of IPv6 into every nook and cranny with no apparent way to shut it off by pulling one switch. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. Apparently there's unity with out the comm. -- Sent from my mobile device http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 02:43:32PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:01:34 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: Other than adding rhubbell to the list of people who probably broke it themselves, not really. Nothing's broken here. Hope you didn't strain a muscle jumping to conclusions. (^: Well nothing other than the pervasiveness of IPv6 into every nook and cranny with no apparent way to shut it off by pulling one switch. You are a sphincter of epic proportions. Le me turn on my care meter, oh look at that -10 on the 0 to 1 scale. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. Apparently there's unity with out the comm. No this community isn't about helping beggars and other dogshit. This community is about developing code that doesn't suck. Fuck off troll.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
blah blah blah go away troll On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 02:59:19PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:30:28 +0100 Matthieu Herrb wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: Yes, I'd like to see some pointers also. I recall that there was discussion (might've been on linux kernel) a while ago about a partially-open video card. Why doesn't the community support that? You mean http://www.opengraphics.org ? What makes you say that? How did *you* contribute? Why did I say that? Let's take a poll on this list of how many people are using one of those cards? Or any list, anywhere. I have not contributed to it in anyway. But why is that relevant? Can you explain? And how did you contribute? I recall that price was a factor in lack of uptake. Seems to me that opensource is farsical if it runs on closesource hardware. So where's the opensource hardware? Seems like the new world order isn't going to allow that. The trend in hardware looks like a race to keep control. Seems like we are going to be paying for the hardware but not owning; instead leasing. Or am I behind the times and there's salvation from some beneficent hardware maker in Taiwan? Making hardware is a lot more difficult than writing software. So it takes more resources and more skills. This is probably why there aren't so many of them. You're saying the barrier to entry is too high? I'm not expert but I don't believe that is why. There are other barriers. I'd recommend you read the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS I think I may have read that a while ago...I'll look.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:14:00 -0500 bofh wrote: Come back and talk when you've bought one for yourself, and donated another to the project. Gee, ok. What have you contributed to it? You don't want to converse. Fine by me.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:01:06 -0800 Johan Beisser wrote: Feeding the troll, sorry. Hi, fresh from high school? I gave you the file where GENERIC for all kernels is configured. Apparently you don't care enough to even read the thread. But it's ok, I don't care if you care or not. But thanks at least for trying to help.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:26:36 -0600 Marco Peereboom wrote: You are a sphincter of epic proportions. Sphincter's pretty important. So thanks! Le me turn on my care meter, oh look at that -10 on the 0 to 1 scale. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. Apparently there's unity with out the comm. No this community isn't about helping beggars and other dogshit. This community is about developing code that doesn't suck. Fuck off troll. Jeez, go get some fresh air or something. And please just ignore my posts if you care that much.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:10:27 -0800 Allie Daneman wrote: man ifconfig...is a quick and easy way to disable inet6 on any interface. Beyond that I'm thinking sysctl, did you peruse around before posting ? It's not that simple. Applications still try IPv6 even when it's disabled in the kernel and there's no vestige of it for ifconfig to even find. So the problem is that there are apps I need to rebuild but I presumed that there might be a simple way to disable from a top-level makefile or the like.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:14:00 -0500 bofh wrote: Come back and talk when you've bought one for yourself, and donated another to the project. Gee, ok. What have you contributed to it? You don't want to converse. Fine by me. You're a moron right? Since when I did I say I contributed to it? You're the one claiming it doesn't cost much. And yet, you didn't contribute. And you want to see it succeed. Seems that you like others to do the hard work, and you can just armchair quarterback right? -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v_g83VHK4
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:59:53 -0800 Philip Guenther wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: I have disabled IPv6 in the kernel (via top-level GENERIC) but I can't see what other places it needs to be disabled for other applications. Needs to be disabled ...to accomplish what goal? Saving of disk space? Elimination of code complexity? Ignoring of IPv6 packets that are received? Something else? I presumed that applications would be written so that if there's no support for a protocol family in the kernel that the app would be smart enough to avoid using that family. Doesn't seem unreasonable. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, putting up -inet6 in your /etc/hostname.* files may be sufficient. It seems that may help some but some apps are still not aware enough. Is it enabled per-application or is there some magic in a top-level Makefile somewhere? This IPv6 is like Whak-A-Mole. Or is it just so pervasive now that it cannot be disabled? I don't have a need to partake in the IPv6 research right now. Sounds like you would prefer if the presence of IPv6 wasn't making the code more complex. If so, the answer is no, it cannot be disabled in that way. Thanks for the assist. To me it's simply I don't need IPv6, I don't use IPv6. I don't want to see any errors from applications that want IPv6. Why isn't IPX in the kernel and everywhere else? Or AppleTalk or Yes I know IPv6 is the future. But I can wait. I've yet to see a good answer of why it's on by default in a lot of places. Is it to shake it out to find the issues? That's fine but to force it is not fine. It should be opt-in not opt-out just like most everything.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:08:30 -0500 Brynet wrote: Not sure how care plays into this. A simple question that the folks here would rather not answer but instead would rather meander about. Well you're especially chipper, now instead of whining on mailing lists.. how about you try helping yourself? A little sensitive? Whining? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=124414310527723w=2 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c#rev1.216 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ifconfigmanpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html The issue is that many apps aren't aware enough to notice that the kernel has no support for a protocol family and they continue to try to use it anyway. It would be nice if those things above took care of all that. Thanks for the links I had seen them. Feeling better now? next time.. for a successful troll.. at least pretend to do some research. Troll? That what you call someone that asks a question you can't answer? (^: Who's the whiner? But at least you care. Sniff, sniff. Here's a tissue, everybody gets one. And here I thought OpenBSDers were a hardy bunch, sure doesn't take much to get some of you into a tizzy. (^: Thanks for the tissue, I'll use it on my sphincter of epic proportions.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:10:19 -0500 bofh wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:14:00 -0500 bofh wrote: Come back and talk when you've bought one for yourself, and donated another to the project. Gee, ok. What have you contributed to it? You don't want to converse. Fine by me. You're a moron right? Since when I did I say I contributed to it? You're the one claiming it doesn't cost much. And yet, you didn't contribute. And you want to see it succeed. Seems that you like others to do the hard work, and you can just armchair quarterback right? The sensitive type, eh?
Re: HP Mini Touchpad Broken in Recent Snapshots
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: With recent snapshots, the touchpad on my HP Mini netbook stopped working. Here is a dmesg for a few months back when the touchpad worked followed by one from the most recent snapshot: http://16systems.com/hp/hp-mini-110-1020NR.txt http://16systems.com/hp/hp_mini_broken_touchpad.txt However nothing changed in the PS/2 input devices code in between. Does this happen upon everyboot (i.e. 100% reproduceable)? Does this happen on cold boots? Miod This turned-out to be a loose cable. Re-seating it fixed the problem. Thanks for the help. Brad
NAT rule change with 4.6 current PF
Has the NAT rule syntax changed in 4.6 current from 3-dec? - (GENERIC.MP) #340 I dont see any change in the webpages: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html A rule that worked in 4.6 release: nat pass on $ext_if proto tcp from 192.168.0.2 to any port 80 - $ext_if_IP now generates an error: pf.conf:247: syntax error I had a look at the pf documentation and it now mentions nat-to rather than nat but perhaps I am misreading. A pointer would be much appreciated. Quentin
Re: NAT rule change with 4.6 current PF
It changed awhile ago...check out the man page of pf.conf, there are a few examples. Quentin Merton wrote: Has the NAT rule syntax changed in 4.6 current from 3-dec? - (GENERIC.MP) #340 I dont see any change in the webpages: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html A rule that worked in 4.6 release: nat pass on $ext_if proto tcp from 192.168.0.2 to any port 80 - $ext_if_IP now generates an error: pf.conf:247: syntax error I had a look at the pf documentation and it now mentions nat-to rather than nat but perhaps I am misreading. A pointer would be much appreciated. Quentin -- Allie
Routing question with 2 external lines.
We have 2 internet lines with 2 different and equally unreliable Internet providers. We have 2 PF firewalls running 4.6 RELEASE arranged in a failover configuration using CARP/pfsync. Each firewall is therefore connected to each router and to our internal network as well as a crossover cable between them for the pfsync. I would like one of our internal servers to be reachable by certain remote people. Given the unreliability of each line I would like a remote person to be able to target the CARP address of either external connection and RDR traffic through to the internal server. Sounds simple and it half works. It only works for whichever line the firewall's default route is pointing towards. Traffic always returns along the default route even if it originates from down the other external line, even if I use reply-to and even if I keep-state and even if I set policy if-bound Is this by design? do I ask the conceptually impossible? it doesnt seem unreasonable - not everyone has high quality lines. I have the following: rdr pass on $ext_if1 proto tcp from $supplierIP to $CARP_ip_line1 port 443 - 10.0.0.50 port 443 rdr pass on $ext_if2 proto tcp from $supplierIP to $CARP_ip_line2 port 443 - 10.0.0.50 port 443 The problem is that replies only get back down the line that is set as default gateway. if the default gateway is down line 1 then an incoming packet coming down line 2 will sucessfully get in to the fw, pass the fw, go to the internal server, come back to the fw but then try to go out down line 1. I have tried separating the pass rule and adding a reply-to but that doesnt seem to work either: pass in on $ext_if1 reply-to ($ext_if1 $isp_gw_ip_1) proto tcp from $supplierIP to $CARP_ip_line1 port 443 keep state pass in on $ext_if2 reply-to ($ext_if2 $isp_gw_ip_2) proto tcp from $supplierIP to $CARP_ip_line2 port 443 keep state I still cant get traffic to return down the interface it arrived on unless its the same as the default route. I have to set a default route because I NAT for internal workstations doing general web browsing. Happy to send a dmesg is it would be useful. Many thanks, Alastair Johnson
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On 15:59, Sat 05 Dec 09, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:26:36 -0600 Marco Peereboom wrote: You are a sphincter of epic proportions. Sphincter's pretty important. So thanks! Le me turn on my care meter, oh look at that -10 on the 0 to 1 scale. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. Apparently there's unity with out the comm. No this community isn't about helping beggars and other dogshit. This community is about developing code that doesn't suck. Fuck off troll. Jeez, go get some fresh air or something. And please just ignore my posts if you care that much. And please stop posting till you get a fucking clue. -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?
Re: NAT rule change with 4.6 current PF
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 01:00:50 + Quentin Merton quentin.mer...@googlemail.com wrote: Has the NAT rule syntax changed in 4.6 current from 3-dec? - (GENERIC.MP) #340 I dont see any change in the webpages: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html A rule that worked in 4.6 release: nat pass on $ext_if proto tcp from 192.168.0.2 to any port 80 - $ext_if_IP now generates an error: pf.conf:247: syntax error I had a look at the pf documentation and it now mentions nat-to rather than nat but perhaps I am misreading. A pointer would be much appreciated. Quentin uhm, yeah, looong time ago: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html#20090901 for those using snapshots/-current that page is kind of mandatory if one doesn't follow the nice commit messages on source-chan...@. (or misc@ for that matter in this case.) - Robert
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 03:59:28PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: And please just ignore my posts if you care that much. finally you say something that I can relate to. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On 16:02, Sat 05 Dec 09, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:10:27 -0800 Allie Daneman wrote: man ifconfig...is a quick and easy way to disable inet6 on any interface. Beyond that I'm thinking sysctl, did you peruse around before posting ? It's not that simple. Applications still try IPv6 even when it's disabled in the kernel and there's no vestige of it for ifconfig to even find. So the problem is that there are apps I need to rebuild but I presumed that there might be a simple way to disable from a top-level makefile or the like. there are apps means you are not talking about your system. Did you even bother to look at a tcpdump when you are running on a kernel without ipv6 support? Is there any ipv6 traffic when running on a kernel without ipv6 ? You blame us for a lot of stuff while you did not do anything to show us where the problem is. Till you have more data, go read the manpages and find out yourself mkay? -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On 16:16, Sat 05 Dec 09, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:59:53 -0800 Philip Guenther wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: I have disabled IPv6 in the kernel (via top-level GENERIC) but I can't see what other places it needs to be disabled for other applications. Needs to be disabled ...to accomplish what goal? Saving of disk space? Elimination of code complexity? Ignoring of IPv6 packets that are received? Something else? I presumed that applications would be written so that if there's no support for a protocol family in the kernel that the app would be smart enough to avoid using that family. Doesn't seem unreasonable. give us some data. tcpdump will be ok. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, putting up -inet6 in your /etc/hostname.* files may be sufficient. It seems that may help some but some apps are still not aware enough. If your system does not support ipv6, there will be no outgoing/incoming ipv6 packets. Is it enabled per-application or is there some magic in a top-level Makefile somewhere? This IPv6 is like Whak-A-Mole. Or is it just so pervasive now that it cannot be disabled? I don't have a need to partake in the IPv6 research right now. Sounds like you would prefer if the presence of IPv6 wasn't making the code more complex. If so, the answer is no, it cannot be disabled in that way. Thanks for the assist. To me it's simply I don't need IPv6, I don't use IPv6. I don't want to see any errors from applications that want IPv6. Why isn't IPX in the kernel and everywhere else? Or AppleTalk or Yes I know IPv6 is the future. But I can wait. I've yet to see a good answer of why it's on by default in a lot of places. Is it to shake it out to find the issues? That's fine but to force it is not fine. It should be opt-in not opt-out just like most everything. You only have 1 year left according to most counters. -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?
Sun X4100 M2 with amd64.mp kernel reboot constantly
This is an old issue and not new, but I tried the latest snapshot in
case the situation have changed to no avail.
I git a little bit more details however after letting it reboot
constantly may be 40 times or so.
Then it jam and was able to get a screen shut of the remote console
before forcing it to reboot and here is what i got. Hopefully it will be
more useful and yes I can't do ps, or ddb as it is totally jam, or
simply reboot constantly, always at the same place.
See the console output, screen shut if you want to see it here and the
dmesg below as well from the amd64 single kernel bot as I can't get it
with the mp kernel.
I wish I could provide more, but I can't. No console, no ps, no ddb,
nothing is possible pass this point here. I only was able to get this
much twice be letting it reboot constantly for about 45 minutes before
it jam again at the same stage so that I can get a screen shut of it to
type it below.
The real screen shut is also available here
http://openbsdsupport.org/images/sun4100.png
if you want to see it, but that's the same as I type below as I copy it
from the screen shut I was able to capture in the process when it
actually didn't reboot constantly, but jam for good.
No issue with the i386 kernel, or the i386.mp, nor with the amd64, only
the amd64.mp kernel does this problem and is reproduceable at will.
Not sure what else I could provide to help isolate this, but if
anything, I would be more then happy to do so.
Best,
Daniel
==
Console output in free mode retype as seen on the console when crash and
frozen and need to be unfrozen by doing a hard reset.
..
Automatic boot in progress: starting file system checks.
/dev/rsd0a: file system is clean; not checking
kernel:uvm_f kernel: kernel: protection fault trap, code=0
Stopped at Xintr_legacy7+0x24d:iret
ddb{2} kernel: privileged instruction fault trap, code=0
Faulted in DDB; continuing...
===
dmesg
OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #6: Fri Dec 4 22:47:14 MST 2009
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 3756982272 (3582MB)
avail mem = 3650658304 (3481MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfbd50 (70 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0ABJX039 date 04/11/2007
bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire X4100 M2
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR SLIT OEMB HPET IPET SRAT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PS2K(S1) PS2M(S1) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) MAC_(S5)
P0P1(S4) P0P2(S4) P0P3(S4) P0P4(S4) P0P5(S4) IO4B(S4) BR5B(S4) BR5C(S4)
BR5D(S4) BR5E(S4) IOB2(S4) BR2B(S4) BR2C(S4) BR2D(S4) BR2E(S4) PWRB(S1)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.93 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 15 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 16 pa 0xfeafd000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 0, can't remap to apid 16
ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 17 pa 0xfeafc000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 1, can't remap to apid 17
ioapic3 at mainbus0: apid 14 pa 0xfeaff000, version 11, 24 pins
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 2500 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P4)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P5)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 128 (PCIB)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 133 (POGA)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 134 (POGB)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 131 (BR5D)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 132 (BR5E)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
ipmi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0: PowerNow! K8 2393 MHz: speeds: 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
NVIDIA nForce4 DDR rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 ISA rev 0xa3
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus rev 0xa2
iic0 at nviic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM registered cmd/addr parity,
data ECC PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x53: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM registered cmd/addr parity,
data ECC PC2-5300CL5
iic1 at nviic0
iic1: addr 0x18 00=01 01=01 02=00 03=00 words 00=0101 01=0101 02=
03= 04= 05= 06= 07=
iic1: addr 0x19 00=01 01=00 02=00 03=01 words 00=0101 01= 02=
03=0101 04= 05= 06= 07=
iic1: addr 0x1a 02=00 03=00 words 00= 01= 02= 03=
04= 05= 06= 07=
Re: How to disable IPv6?
Yeah you said that already. On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:17:28 -0600 Marco Peereboom wrote: fuck off troll On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:24:42PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:08:30 -0500 Brynet wrote: Not sure how care plays into this. A simple question that the folks here would rather not answer but instead would rather meander about. Well you're especially chipper, now instead of whining on mailing lists.. how about you try helping yourself? A little sensitive? Whining? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=124414310527723w=2 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.c#rev1.216 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ifconfigmanpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html The issue is that many apps aren't aware enough to notice that the kernel has no support for a protocol family and they continue to try to use it anyway. It would be nice if those things above took care of all that. Thanks for the links I had seen them. Feeling better now? next time.. for a successful troll.. at least pretend to do some research. Troll? That what you call someone that asks a question you can't answer? (^: Who's the whiner? But at least you care. Sniff, sniff. Here's a tissue, everybody gets one. And here I thought OpenBSDers were a hardy bunch, sure doesn't take much to get some of you into a tizzy. (^: Thanks for the tissue, I'll use it on my sphincter of epic proportions.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
Another sensitive type. Guess there are always a few on every list. On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:17:14 -0600 Marco Peereboom wrote: fuck off troll On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 04:26:49PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:10:19 -0500 bofh wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:14:00 -0500 bofh wrote: Come back and talk when you've bought one for yourself, and donated another to the project. Gee, ok. What have you contributed to it? You don't want to converse. Fine by me. You're a moron right? Since when I did I say I contributed to it? You're the one claiming it doesn't cost much. And yet, you didn't contribute. And you want to see it succeed. Seems that you like others to do the hard work, and you can just armchair quarterback right? The sensitive type, eh?
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 03:07:03 +0100 Michiel van Baak wrote: Did you even bother to look at a tcpdump when you are running on a kernel without ipv6 support? Is there any ipv6 traffic when running on a kernel without ipv6 ? Again re-read the thread if you need to. Can read the reply to P. Geunther You blame us for a lot of stuff while you did not do anything to show us where the problem is. Funny, no, not blaming anyone for anything. Never play blame game. What's the point? But go ahead if you want. The question seemed simple enough to me, if you can't give an answer, no problem.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:07:00 + Jacob Meuser wrote: finally you say something that I can relate to. But couldn't resist, eh? (^:
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
rhubbell wrote: Another sensitive type. Guess there are always a few on every list. As distinguished from insensitive twerps like yourself.
Re: [PATCH] Fix interrupt handling in ral(4) for RT2661 under load
Mind sharing your hostname.ral0 and the tools you use to trigger this situation? I've tried hping, tcpbench, ping -f, rsync, etc to no avail. max ~8000 intr/s with hping 2.5MB/s with scp hostname.ral0 is: inet 10.2.0.1 255.255.0.0 NONE \ mode 11g \ mediaopt hostap \ nwid \ wpa \ wpaprotos wpa2 \ wpapsk 0x \ wpaakms psk \ chan 1 inet6 alias 2001:470:8379:2::1 and this system is basically my home wireless AP -- so it's routing between wired ethernet hooked up to my cable modem and my laptops etc. I see the interface get stuck intermittently under pretty much any heavy traffic from my laptop -- rsync over ssh to a system on wired ethernet, uploading big files to the external internet, etc. I think maybe having a lot of small ack packets to send exposes the race the best, since typically I see the problem when I am sending a lot via TCP from the laptop through the slow AP. If you search the web for soekris and rt2661 then you can find several other people that seem to be hitting this bug from many months ago, which makes sense -- a geode is probably a slow enough CPU to make the races bigger. cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 1.84 GHz Your CPU may be too fast... my system has: cpu0: VIA Samuel 2 (CentaurHauls 686-class) 602 MHz If your system can service TX interrupts fast enough that there is never more than one packet being completed, the standard driver should work fine. - R.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
rhubbell the top posting troll wrote: Yeah you said that already. Marco Peereboom wrote: fuck off troll You have asked your questions, quite impolitely.. many have responded regardless of this. Marco has kindly given you some further direction, the 'off' in 'fuck off' would indicate that you should not be posting here any further. -Bryan.
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
rhubbell wrote: Another sensitive type. Guess there are always a few on every list. It has nothing to do with sensitivity, we just have an aversion toward idiots. -Bryan.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 07:55:11PM -0800, rhubbell wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 02:07:00 + Jacob Meuser wrote: finally you say something that I can relate to. But couldn't resist, eh? (^: no, it was a test to see if you could take your own advice. since you won't, I am now sure you're not worth paying attention to and are only here to be a prick. thanks for clarifying. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Re: building sbin/route on -current?
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM, James Hartley jjhart...@gmail.com wrote: I updated my local source tree Tuesday. Rebuilding the kernel went fine, but building userland failed at sbin/route with the following messages: === sbin/route cc -02 -pipe -nostdinc -idirafter /usr/dest/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/route/route.c ... Whatever directions you've followed that suggest that you can compile a system without installing it are wrong, or at least insufficient. Thanks, Philip for responding. I have followed the recipe given in Section 5.3.4 - 5.3.5 of the FAQ religiously for months without incident. As an additional data point, I installed the 4 December i386 snapshot followed by downloading /usr/src via AnonCVS today, successfully rebuilt the kernel userland. Although this may point out that the problem is solved, it still leaves the question of why building started failing Tuesday. Thanks again for responding.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
Which apps? I have secret for you ;-) Most of the apps from packages/ports is not from OpenBSD project, but from people/communities around the world. So please ask them what to do. In OpenBSD there are at least two ways how to disable IPv6 for whole system. And in case of problems with app there are two ways too. Ask author of app or send diff to misc@ with repair ;-) On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:24 AM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: The issue is that many apps aren't aware enough to notice that the kernel has no support for a protocol family and they continue to try to use it anyway. It would be nice if those things above took care of all that. Thanks for the links I had seen them.
Re: How to disable IPv6?
You are missing whole point of philosophy of OpenBSD. Snippet from one good book : The OpenBSD community generally expects users to be advanced computer users. They have written extensive documentation about OpenBSD, and expect people to be willing to read it. They're not interested in coddling new UNIX users and will say so if pressed. They don't object to new UNIX users using OpenBSD, but do object to people asking them for basic UNIX help just because they happen to be running OpenBSD. If you're a new UNIX user, they will not hold your hand. They will not develop features just to please users. OpenBSD exists to meet the needs of the developers, and while others are welcome to ride along the needs of the passengers do not steer the project. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:43 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:01:34 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: Other than adding rhubbell to the list of people who probably broke it themselves, not really. Nothing's broken here. Hope you didn't strain a muscle jumping to conclusions. (^: B Well nothing other than the pervasiveness of IPv6 into every nook and cranny with no apparent way to shut it off by pulling one switch. Also looking back I see the question was ignored before. I can figure it out with enough time. B But guess I thought there was a community here that would share the secret incantations. B Apparently there's unity with out the comm. -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Re: Open Source hardware (Re: can't get vesa @ 1280x800 or nv)
wow now I have point. You are like kid on sand. Look they have thermometer and you haven't :-P :-D You don't have even any respect for long time OpenBSD developers or users which know a LOT more then you. Just because you are unqualified user doesn't mean that you can shout around on everyone. And from your answers in this thread I can see that you haven't even small idea about how expensive is develop of new HW. You are like more and more newbies in Linux community. Give me everything now for free. I don't want to pay anything, you are all idiots without knowledge and if you don't want to give me something for free then I will shout on you a lot. Uh sorry. I know from professionals that I must be nice on people with similar problems because they need doctor. So please take my apology (:-D). On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:08:36 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: More than I've ever spent on all the computers I've ever written software with. How much would that be? Ballpark. Doesn't seem like it would be very much. Seems like you're just hand-waving without real numbers. Wikipedia has a money-raised thermometer on their site from time-to-time and they're raising millions. -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
