Re: NPTD multiple timezone on same server (fix)
Henning Brauer wrote: * Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-02 20:57]: How to: I wish to use the same server running ntpd from Henning as the server, but I haven't find a way to have two daemon running on different IP's that would be off by one hour each. So, is it possible first to do that? no. well, you might just run version hacked up to alwas add an hour after doing the gettimeofday(), but that is really hacky. I don't intend to add a knob for that, this is really Yet Another Cisco Fuckup. Thanks! I hacked it and my process is now called Cisco brain dead ntp engine Except that I did the changes in the server_dispatch instead. The gettimeofday() actually would also affect the local time of the server. This way I changed only the message send in reply to clients and only affect that. reply.rectime = d_to_lfp(3600 + rectime); reply.reftime = d_to_lfp(3600 + conf-status.reftime); reply.xmttime = d_to_lfp(3600 + gettime()); Not very elegant, but hey, that's for a brain dead Cisco VoIP phone! (: I think I might just add an entry in my dns like this edt-only-for-brain-dead-cisco-est-edt-timezone-like-ntp-client.presscom.net It's a dirty hack, but it will address the issue until Cisco fix it's shit I hope! If not, I will need to make it remove the correction automatically for EST/EDT switch then. Thanks for your time. Daniel
evolution on 3.7
This is what I did : Did a fresh install of openbsd 3.7, installed ports and then installed the msttcorefonts package. I then installed evolution from ports. I set up X using twm and tried running evolution. Again, evolution crashed on the second screen Evolution Setup Assistant/Receiving Email. When I clicked on the server type option, nothing was available other than None. When I tried clickiing it again, evolution crashed. I deleted all related directories/files related to evolution and logged out. As root, I then installed kde, logged in a regular user, started evolution and the same thing happened. I tried running evolution from konsole and the following is what appeared when evolution crashed. Any ideas/help? Thanks, Mike - Older configuration files detected, upgrading... -- Configuration files upgraded from version 1.0. evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error setting owner on component OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent -- CORBA error Waiting for component to die -- OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent (1) [1]+ Done/usr/local/bin/evolution
Re: trouble installing evolution-1.2
Hi, It's broken in 3.7-release and was broken in -current (I haven't tried -current for a month so it might be in better condition) See http://www.lectroid.net/ BTW, there are some evolution lib problems on 3.6-stable too. If you pkg_add it before gnome-desktop it works fine but after you pkg_add gnome-desktop it fails to find shared libs. Manually adding evolution libpath to shlib_dirs in rc.conf.local seems to fix it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael + Marilynn Endsley Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:22 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: trouble installing evolution-1.2 Hi all. I just installed 3.7 on this machine and all went well. I have been having trouble installing evolution either as package or port. The port wouldn't build and I have used pkg_add, pkg_delete, and then pkg_add again. The program starts, but on the second screen (Evolution Setup Assistant), the only button available to click is None. When I click on it to change to pop, the program crashes. I have evolution on another openbsd system (3.5) and it runs fine. btw- after doing a pkg_delete of evolution and the data-server, I do delete all the gconf/evolution/etc files/directories in my home directory. I have used 2 different sites (rt.fm and openbsd.org) to install from and I get the same problem. I have searched google, marc, monkeys, etc but no help :( I run evolution on my linux boxes, freebsd, and as stated my other openbsd systems with no problems at all so I am assuming it is something related to 3.7? What can I try next? Thanks.Mike ps- thanks to all you openbsd developers. I am enjoying 3.7! :)
Re: flashdist-20050601 for OpenBSD 3.7
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 23:55 -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote: Here is a new release that works on both OpenBSD 3.7 and OpenBSD-current as of June 1st (and should work on 3.6 with one or two minor adjustments of the packaging list) Your work is really appreciated. Thanks to OpenBSD and your script I'm putting together a series (twenty) of 4801 devices to be part of a wide VPN dislocated around a in a MAN, I'll put the result on a web pages if anyone is interested. Ciao -- Massimo.run();
Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?
Theo de Raadt wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:51:58 -0600: Fine, talk what you want about. But something you should think about is this: It is a good idea if OpenBSD developers read these mailing lists too, for ideas as to what to change or fix. But if the lists are just yammerings by idiots, do you think they will read it? Many OpenBSD developers in fact have unsubscribed from these lists because of the yammering idiots. Hey, I've posted a nice and friendly request to talk and got flamed by an official OBSD developer. So who is yammering? They attack me and I defend. So go ahead, talk about what you want to, set your own agenda for the lists, and drive the developers away. Which agenda? Miscellaneous discussion about OpenBSD? That's what I've wanted to do. But don't think about. This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. I will never buy any of your CDs again. I regret that I've financed with CDs a value of a nice holiday trip. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like.
Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?
I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. Bingo, you hit jackpot. The OpenBSD developers develop the OS for their needs, not everybody else's needs. On 6/3/05, Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:51:58 -0600: Fine, talk what you want about. But something you should think about is this: It is a good idea if OpenBSD developers read these mailing lists too, for ideas as to what to change or fix. But if the lists are just yammerings by idiots, do you think they will read it? Many OpenBSD developers in fact have unsubscribed from these lists because of the yammering idiots. Hey, I've posted a nice and friendly request to talk and got flamed by an official OBSD developer. So who is yammering? They attack me and I defend. So go ahead, talk about what you want to, set your own agenda for the lists, and drive the developers away. Which agenda? Miscellaneous discussion about OpenBSD? That's what I've wanted to do. But don't think about. This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. I will never buy any of your CDs again. I regret that I've financed with CDs a value of a nice holiday trip. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like.
Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson
Re: Sun ELC?
...on Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:15:51AM +0100, Peter Galbavy wrote: Gordon Grieder wrote: Before I start following sparc@ (if I go ahead with this): I recently inherited a Sun ELC. It's an ancient all-in-one thing that looks Now ? Might work as a non caching nameserver - memory is rather limited, while CPU is OK-ish. Up until three years ago or so, I was running a backup MX for about 50 customers on an 25MHz SS1+ (and one of them had roughly 6000 mail users), with postfix on OpenBSD. Probably wouldn't work with today's spam levels though, regardless of the software used. At the time, disk space (an external 4GB disk for the spool filled up in about a day when the largest customer was offline) was more of a problem than CPU power. Alex.
openbsd list fckery
Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: zope apache chroot
On 6/3/05, Alec Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: smith on 2005-06-02 18:20:07 -0700: Has any one configured Zope with Apache with chroot? I highly doubt that having Apache in a chroot or not will make a difference; generally Apache is used to proxy requests with mod_rewrite and mod_proxy. The Zope site (and the Plone site) have a several example configurations. thats exactly true. take the config samples from zope.org to have apache proxy and rewrite your urls. take your stock openbsd apache. it just works. --knitti
Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?
No, they hate it when you do things that are advised against and that tend to run into trouble and you expect them to bail you out when you don't even supply any hard information about the failures. I've been following this thread, actually a bit amazed at the reticence of the developers. About this ours, there is no ours (plural), there is just you. This thread has supplied one useful bit of knowledge. Anything dependent on 486-specific code is likely to be permanently broken. As the OS being only useable for things [the developers] think about, I had an easy time convincing my boss to buy the CDs, based solely on this list! There are a number of savvy competent people here, and there is a fair amount of heads-up about things that will matter, regardless of platform. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Markus Kolb Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:48 AM To: Theo de Raadt Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!? [snip] The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like.
Re: openbsd list fckery
Congrats to the most useless post on misc ever. On 6/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: howto clean disks ?
Diana Eichert wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Anthony Roberts wrote: The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the drive apart in a lab. Items required for sure fire disk cleaning methodology. qty. 1 hard drive to clean qty. 1 high velocity military rifle I usually use a .223 round, but other parts of the world may prefer .308(7.62x51) or 7.62x54. qty. what number of rounds you feel like of previously described firearm I just take an axe to the disk.
Re: openbsd list fckery
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 04:41:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, [snip vitriolic nonsense rant] You're an idiot. --- Lars Hansson
Security WebCams
I have an immediate need for detection of physical intrusion. I would like to have a webcam take and save pictures to disk when there is motion detected in the camera's field of view. Is this doable right now with OpenBSD? Thanks, Dave Feustel
Re: Sun Netra T1 105
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:04:38PM +0200, mdff wrote: [...] for dell i'd choose obsd as well... but not for sun. theres trusted solaris and very good sec-features starting from sol9. also, i figured out that machine specific tools from the solaris os are not even planned under obsd. Nonetheless, if I need to choose between trusting closed-source Solaris and the open OpenBSD for security, I tend to trust OpenBSD more. furthermore for security, i guess it's always good 2 have a mix of hardware and os's. In that sense it's even more interesting to run OpenBSD on Sparc, as OpenBSD/Sparc would be a less common combination than Solaris/Sparc... ;-) In addition, until the advent of Solaris 10 (which doesn't support older Sparc hardware anymore), Solaris was far too expensive for home users like myself - there was a so-called free (as in cost) licence, but that was only valid for a limited set of machines and - even worse - only for machines bought from Sun or a licenced dealer. None of my Suns falls under that category, hence, Solaris 9 is a no-no for me. With OpenBSD (or even Linux), at least I don't have to worry about all that licence nonsense. Cheerio, Thomas -- ** PLEASE: NO Cc's to me privately, I do read the list - thanks! ** - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.orgICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!
Re: Sun Netra T1 105
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:09:58AM -0500, Kevin wrote: [...] The Netra T1/105 (and the Telco-grade CP1500) are nice machines, [...] System stability is great, like the Sun hardware of old. Performance is what you'd expect from a 360Mhz or 440Mhz UltraSparc IIi, not stellar but more than sufficient for a small mail gateway or packet filter. [...] I'm curious: Given that the Netras use the same CPUs as the U5/U10, do you happen to have any idea how they compare? I've been using U5(first)/U10(now) as my home firewall/web and mail server, originally with a 360MHz CPU, later with a 333 (which has more cache than the 360) and now with a 400/440 - for what I'm using them for they seem to be very sufficient - if not over the top... :-} I'd expect the Netra T1/105 to perform similarly - or even better? Cheerio, Thomas -- ** PLEASE: NO Cc's to me privately, I do read the list - thanks! ** - Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.orgICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!
Re: Security WebCams
On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:19:12 -0500 Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an immediate need for detection of physical intrusion. I would like to have a webcam take and save pictures to disk when there is motion detected in the camera's field of view. Is this doable right now with OpenBSD? Thanks, Dave Feustel Hi Dave, There are several solution like using a netcam like axis ones with a perl script that grab shots to your disk . There is also veo products,especially the veo observer i used it a time coupled to good perl script that save pics to your disk. hope it helps , Johan
Re: openbsd list fckery
It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives. (I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:
Re: Apache chroot and webmail - what is it trying to use?
hosts and resolv.conf seemed to do the trick. Thanks much guys! Wijnand Wiersma wrote: Sometimes adding a etc/hosts file helps in the chroot. I hope this helps. Wijnand -- Matthew S Elmore dbTechnology Inc.Tuscaloosa, AL www.dbtech.net (205) 556-9020
Re: TV footage on Calgary news
On 5/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Someone who is local to the event want to rip it and throw it up on the internet for download? guess what? wonderful news!! http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20050603094002 -jf
Re: openbsd list fckery
Hello, Jesus Christ . do you someone know what's this guy means and why he wrote emails like this ??? Some sexual problems ? :o) Lubos [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a): Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: openbsd list fckery
http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html 72 CPL please good riddance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: openbsd list fckery
I got private mail too, but my reply bounced...the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account was disabled (...) I don't advocate for obsd. I just like the os, as it is stable and it does what it does. I don't like the 'obsd attitude' either, but I ignore it. Personally I feel that if you don't like peoples attitudes, it doesn't help to go the way you went on that list. I do like the installer though, I'm serious. Not for it's user friendliness, but because it works for me. I've seen better ones, I've seen worse. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just tip of the iceberg, starting with what users see first, is only reason i gave that measly example. openbsd is has so many problems that are unfixed because the advocates like yourself have such SHT attitudes and think you are so smart. it is what gives me the greatest joy when i root you fcks and rm your machines. such joy i cannot express. your MiTC bitsy site may enjoy my company someday soon. because, you know perfectly well the installer is shit you just choose to troll. want to debate the other more important sht wrong things about obsd? haha too bad i don't have any such interest. good day and bye. Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: openbsd list fckery
The installer is awesome, it fits right beside the base kernel on ONE 1.44 floppy (speaking for i386). I love it Dimitri Georganas wrote: I got private mail too, but my reply bounced...the [EMAIL PROTECTED] account was disabled (...) I don't advocate for obsd. I just like the os, as it is stable and it does what it does. I don't like the 'obsd attitude' either, but I ignore it. Personally I feel that if you don't like peoples attitudes, it doesn't help to go the way you went on that list. I do like the installer though, I'm serious. Not for it's user friendliness, but because it works for me. I've seen better ones, I've seen worse. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just tip of the iceberg, starting with what users see first, is only reason i gave that measly example. openbsd is has so many problems that are unfixed because the advocates like yourself have such SHT attitudes and think you are so smart. it is what gives me the greatest joy when i root you fcks and rm your machines. such joy i cannot express. your MiTC bitsy site may enjoy my company someday soon. because, you know perfectly well the installer is shit you just choose to troll. want to debate the other more important sht wrong things about obsd? haha too bad i don't have any such interest. good day and bye. Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de downtime
Hi crowd, openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de is going to have downtime due to maintenance work, beginning in a few minutes. Work should be finished in less than 2 hours. This affects also the various .de aliases the host is known under: anoncvs2.de.openbsd.org, cvsup2.de.openbsd.org, cvsync.de.openbsd.org, ftp3.de.openbsd.org, rsync.de.openbsd.org, www.de.openbsd.org Happy hacking, -- Alexander grunk von Gernler PGP key 0xEBC27515 http://www.de.openbsd.org -- Free, functional, secure
G3 iMac not seeing all of disk
Greetings misc@, I have run into a problem attempting to install OpenBSD 3.7 on a Rev. D (summer 2000, dark blue) iMac G3. I have a 30GB IDE drive installed in place of the factory 7GB. MacOS X sees the entire disk with no problems. However, OpenBSD cannot. It detects the size of the drive and I believe all it's specifications (correct # of cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) when it boots but the disklabel editor will not allow me to install any partitions past the 8GB barrier. Any idea on how I can utilize this whole disk? I would like to use the entire disk for OpenBSD. Regards, Matt -- Matthew S Elmore dbTechnology Inc.Tuscaloosa, AL www.dbtech.net (205) 556-9020
Re: openbsd list fckery
What really disturbs me, is that my doughtier reads this list (she is only 14). I would like to see more brain and less testosteron - on _each side_, of _any argument_! Really, would help! Ioan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars? WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in my inbox!? Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list? I mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP! What good was your idiot email? OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people. Look at the motherfucking installer for one tiny example. One keyfumble or one return too many and you are FUCKED, have to start over. Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES heard of go back? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go back and change that important N to a Y? You don't even have to keep state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change variables at each prompt. I could code something like that 20 years ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards? Social retardation? Horrid brain damage? Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit retarded way)? Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT. Your attitude will serve you well in hell! /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!) Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200 Markus Kolb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD installation. You say it like you expect anyone to care. The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility with ours. Ours? Who are these ours? The voices in your head? I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Obviously. Your OS is only useable for things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people doing stuff you don't like. This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english even if you're upset. --- Lars Hansson Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
Re: openbsd list fckery
About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7. I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then install when you make a mistake isn't that difficult. -- I think the installer should be the last thing to go user friendly. OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the installer, it means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD by just clicking Next, you would be in for a rough ride after.
Re: Problems on boot
Alex, I have a 586 with an old scuzz card with no boot roms and a couple of error-ful half-height drives. The thing sounds like a jet powered lawnmower when you turn it on. But it works. I simply leave the install floppy in the floppy drive, and when it gets to the boot prompt, I do a 'boot sd0a:bsd' and it boots. Prob solved. Now you might be able to turn your boot capability on in the bios or the scuzz bios. That is up to you to figure out. Have fun, Linc Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:19:14 +0300 From: Alex Stamatis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Problems on boot Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks all of you that replied to my message. I just saw the dmesg and you were right. It says that Host adapter Bios disabled. Using default scsi device parameters. So how do I get to enable the scsi adapters bios ? The adapter is AIC-7850 and the hdd is a seagate. Thanks again for the help ! Best Regards Alex Stamatis
Re: openbsd list fckery
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman: About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7. I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then install when you make a mistake isn't that difficult. -- I think the installer should be the last thing to go user friendly. OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the installer, it means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD by just clicking Next, you would be in for a rough ride after. actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing next. everything has most common reasonable defaults. so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does not help then perhaps should not use computers... cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
Re: openbsd list fckery
JR Dalrymple wrote: The installer is awesome, it fits right beside the base kernel on ONE 1.44 floppy (speaking for i386). Yes, really thin. I just like that un-bloated one, no extras, just rude basement. That is enough for setting up a raw machine. More tuning could be done in later time in my opinion. Regards, Thorsten
Re: 3.5 packages ?
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:21:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed... I'm curious as to why there are 3.5 packages and such on the site. I thought only 2 versions were kept up at a time. I'm not complaining, just confused and curious. http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html The current policy requires mirrors listed on this page to provide at least the last two releases in binary form (currently 3.6 and 3.7) for all architectures, as well as the OpenSSH/, OpenNTPD/, OpenBGPD/, patches/ and tools/ directories.
Re: 3.5 packages ?
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 01:21:29PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious as to why there are 3.5 packages and such on the site. I thought only 2 versions were kept up at a time. I'm not complaining, just confused and curious. ~Donald They're not kept up to date.
Re: openbsd list fckery
Will H. Backman wrote: About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7. I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then install when you make a mistake isn't that difficult. I think the installer should be the last thing to go user friendly. OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the installer, it means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD by just clicking Next, you would be in for a rough ride after. Uh, I do not think so. The OpenBSD-installer is as easy as some gui-stuff, maybe much easier. Now blinking Touch me-Buttons, just straight work. I have done my first installation just without any documentation, it worked, but do not ask how the layout was :) In my opinion not the user-friendly task is important, but the easy and fast setup-possibility. Sometimes I neeed just a raw installation with an anonymous ftp for backup up some machine in trouble or for fileserving some data for a temporary issue, for that cases I love OpenBSD (as for some other reasons). Regards, Thorsten
Re: openbsd list fckery
I think Freud would have something to say about the issues this fellow is having with his sex life . Dimitri Georganas wrote: It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives. (I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, snip a whole bunch of blankety blank blank
Re: flashdist-20050601 for OpenBSD 3.7
* 2005|06|03 08:13 Massimo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'll put the result on a web pages if anyone is interested. Yes please. TIA Nikolai -- Ich verwalte sie. Ich zdhle sie und zdhle sie wieder. Das ist nicht leicht. Aber ich bin ein ernsthafter Mann. \\ --- Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Der kleine Prinz
Re: openbsd list fckery
-Original Message- From: Michael Shalayeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:59 AM To: Will H. Backman Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: openbsd list fckery Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman: About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7. I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then install when you make a mistake isn't that difficult. -- I think the installer should be the last thing to go user friendly. OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the installer, it means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD by just clicking Next, you would be in for a rough ride after. actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing next. everything has most common reasonable defaults. so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does not help then perhaps should not use computers... I never said it was hard for me. I read the instructions. I also read the afterboot man page.
Re: openbsd list fckery
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman: -Original Message- From: Michael Shalayeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:59 AM To: Will H. Backman Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: openbsd list fckery Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman: About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7. I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then install when you make a mistake isn't that difficult. -- I think the installer should be the last thing to go user friendly. OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the installer, it means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD by just clicking Next, you would be in for a rough ride after. actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing next. everything has most common reasonable defaults. so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does not help then perhaps should not use computers... I never said it was hard for me. I read the instructions. I also read the afterboot man page. it is addressed to the list as well so that may not necessarily mean you in single but rather you in multitude of the list wankers (: but since you actually took it upon self it's good. maybe you do not need electricity treatment after all (: cu -- paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)
Doble mounted /var using mfs
Hi all, I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab. I did a usual install directly on CF (hence all partitions physically exist on CF) and wanted to mfs mount /var and /tmp based on existing partitions. If I do it from command line (boot single user or edit fstab not to mount /var) mfs /var is mounted only once. But if I enable it in fstab it always gets mounted twice. Check it out: (btw, there is no swap space the system has 64MB of ram so it should all fit in nicely) (and ignore the noatime stuff, currently I'm running the box with rw mouned /var directly from the CF, and it made no difference regarding the problem) Help please? disklabel wd0 # using MBR partition 3: type A6 off 63 (0x3f) size 1000881 (0xf45b1) # /dev/rwd0c: type: ESDI disk: ESDI/IDE disk label: Hitachi XX.V.3.4 flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 993 total sectors: 1000944 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:10275363 4.2BSD 2048 16384 102 # Cyl 0*- 101 c: 1000944 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 992 d: 20160122976 4.2BSD 2048 16384 20 # Cyl 122 - 141 e: 41328143136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 42 # Cyl 142 - 182 g:816480184464 4.2BSD 2048 16384 328 # Cyl 183 - 992 h: 20160102816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 20 # Cyl 102 - 121 cat /etc/fstab /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2 #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 mount /dev/wd0a on / type ffs (local, noatime, softdep) /dev/wd0h on /home type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, nosuid, softdep) /dev/wd0g on /usr type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, read-only, softdep) mfs:25832 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=41328 512-blocks) mfs:160 on /tmp type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=20160 512-blocks) mfs:31849 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=41328 512-blocks) df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 50526 31602 1639866%/ /dev/wd0h987030 9348 0%/home /dev/wd0g 40039827436210601872%/usr mfs:25832 20278 7298 1196838%/var mfs:160 9870 6 9372 0%/tmp mfs:31849 20278 7306 1196038%/var dmesg OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) (GenuineIntel 586-class) 75 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed real mem = 66691072 (65128K) avail mem = 53440512 (52188K) using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes (3356K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/20/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd770 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.1 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable. pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus WARNING: can't reserve area for BIOS PROM. bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VLSI 82C594 Wildcat rev 0x01 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VLSI 82C596/597 Wildcat ISA rev 0x01 de0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 DEC 21041 rev 0x21: irq 9 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 address 00:80:c8:47:5c:86 de1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 DEC 21041 rev 0x11: irq 9 de1: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 address 00:e0:29:04:73:c9 vga1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434-8 rev 0xfc wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) le1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD 79c970 PCnet-PCI rev 0x02: irq 9 le1: address 08:00:09:f8:7b:bf le1: 8 receive buffers, 2 transmit buffers pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 CMD Technology PCI0640 rev 0x02: no DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Hitachi XX.V.3.4.0.0 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 488MB, 1000944 sectors pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard,
Re: openbsd list fckery
I've only done a few installs, so I may be closer to the process than someone who has done it a hundred times... I had no real problem with it. Half the time people talking about user friendly really mean pretty and glossy which really is purely marketing. I've done a lot of Gentoo installs that were much harder than the obsd installer (when I finished obsd I said - damn, thats all?). Gentoo really does not have an installer - a boot disc and a lot of installation instructions. I made a few mistakes where going back may have helped, but I am not really sure it would have. Besides, making me start over kinda reinforced my learning so I did not do it again (bad dog, bad, whack with paper). I am sure someone will flame me for even commenting on that, then a gaggle of glommers-on on will flame me, then the people that want to be like them will flame me :) Otherwise, I thought it was simplicity itself. No problems at all, worked great. Installation instructions worked fine too. On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Sascha Ramin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think the installer is great, its so simple and straight forward, i could do it with my eyes closed. what do you want gentoo's ? or fedoras. this isn't linux, if you cant handle the installer, your going to have a hard time running the OS. also if you think your really smart by using lots of four letter words, you've got more problems then just your installer. also this isn't a tech support hotline, people are going to help you if they feel like it. sbr -- Bill Chmura Explosivo ITG w. http://www.explosivo.com
Crude ISP Failover script for SOHO use
I put together a very crude ISP failover script for a small office
running an OpenBSD firewall and 2 broadband Internet connections.
It's run every minute from root's crontab.
Comments welcome, keep in mind that I am not a programmer. And I know
the echo /dev/null lines are ugly, and I even know how to fix it, I
just didn't do it yet.
Enjoy!
-Jason
=
$ cat failover
#!/bin/sh
EMAIL=insert_your_INTERNAL_email_account_here
PRIMARY_IP=static_ip_of_primary_connection
PRIMARY_GW=ip_of_primary_gateway
BACKUP_IP=static_ip_of_backup_connection
BACKUP_GW=ip_of_backup_gateway
DEFAULT_GW=`cat /etc/mygate`
# echo Begin Default GW: $DEFAULT_GW
# test if primary is up
if { ping -c 5 -w 2 -I $PRIMARY_IP $PRIMARY_GW /dev/null; } then
# primary up, check default gateway
if [ $PRIMARY_GW == $DEFAULT_GW ]; then
# primary gateway equals default gateway: exit
# echo Primary up, no change
echo /dev/null
else
# set default gateway to primary
logger -s -t Failover Restoring PRIMARY connection.
echo -n $PRIMARY_GW /etc/mygate
route change default $PRIMARY_GW
fi
elif { ping -c 5 -w 2 -I $BACKUP_IP $BACKUP_GW /dev/null; } then
# primary down, backup up: test default gateway
if [ $BACKUP_GW == $DEFAULT_GW ]; then
# secondary is already default: exit
# echo Secondary up, no change
echo /dev/null
else
# switch default gateway to backup
logger -s -t Failover Switching to BACKUP
connection.
echo -n $BACKUP_GW /etc/mygate
route change default $BACKUP_GW
fi
else
# both are down
logger -s -t Failover Both Internet gateways are DOWN!
echo Both Internet gateways are DOWN! | mail -s Failover
warning! $EMAIL
fi
# echo End Default GW: $DEFAULT_GW
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Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Schvberle Daniel wrote: Hi all, I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab. ... Help please? /etc/rc mounts it too. Easiest fix is to add the 'noauto' option to fstab. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs
You need to edit /etc/rc and on about line 185 mount /var /dev/null 21 comment this out reboot and all should be ok Mike. On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, [iso-8859-1] Schvberle Daniel wrote: Hi all, I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab. I did a usual install directly on CF (hence all partitions physically exist on CF) and wanted to mfs mount /var and /tmp based on existing partitions. If I do it from command line (boot single user or edit fstab not to mount /var) mfs /var is mounted only once. But if I enable it in fstab it always gets mounted twice. Check it out: (btw, there is no swap space the system has 64MB of ram so it should all fit in nicely) (and ignore the noatime stuff, currently I'm running the box with rw mouned /var directly from the CF, and it made no difference regarding the problem) Help please? disklabel wd0 # using MBR partition 3: type A6 off 63 (0x3f) size 1000881 (0xf45b1) # /dev/rwd0c: type: ESDI disk: ESDI/IDE disk label: Hitachi XX.V.3.4 flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 993 total sectors: 1000944 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:10275363 4.2BSD 2048 16384 102 # Cyl 0*- 101 c: 1000944 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 992 d: 20160122976 4.2BSD 2048 16384 20 # Cyl 122 - 141 e: 41328143136 4.2BSD 2048 16384 42 # Cyl 142 - 182 g:816480184464 4.2BSD 2048 16384 328 # Cyl 183 - 992 h: 20160102816 4.2BSD 2048 16384 20 # Cyl 102 - 121 cat /etc/fstab /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2 #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 mount /dev/wd0a on / type ffs (local, noatime, softdep) /dev/wd0h on /home type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, nosuid, softdep) /dev/wd0g on /usr type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, read-only, softdep) mfs:25832 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=41328 512-blocks) mfs:160 on /tmp type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=20160 512-blocks) mfs:31849 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid, size=41328 512-blocks) df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 50526 31602 1639866%/ /dev/wd0h987030 9348 0%/home /dev/wd0g 40039827436210601872%/usr mfs:25832 20278 7298 1196838%/var mfs:160 9870 6 9372 0%/tmp mfs:31849 20278 7306 1196038%/var dmesg OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) (GenuineIntel 586-class) 75 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed real mem = 66691072 (65128K) avail mem = 53440512 (52188K) using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes (3356K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/20/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd770 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.1 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable. pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus WARNING: can't reserve area for BIOS PROM. bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VLSI 82C594 Wildcat rev 0x01 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VLSI 82C596/597 Wildcat ISA rev 0x01 de0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 DEC 21041 rev 0x21: irq 9 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 address 00:80:c8:47:5c:86 de1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 DEC 21041 rev 0x11: irq 9 de1: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 address 00:e0:29:04:73:c9 vga1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434-8 rev 0xfc wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) le1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD 79c970 PCnet-PCI rev 0x02: irq 9 le1: address 08:00:09:f8:7b:bf le1: 8 receive buffers, 2 transmit buffers pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 CMD Technology PCI0640 rev 0x02: no DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0:
Re: Just let it die (openbsd list fckery)
On June 3, 2005 10:45 am, Paul Greene wrote: I think Freud would have something to say about the issues this fellow is having with his sex life . How about letting this drop. I'm sure the troll has had is fill. Dimitri Georganas wrote: It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives. (I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lars, snip a whole bunch of blankety blank blank
Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs
I tried with 'swap' and it was the same. Besides, it only directs mfs to set the 'partition' parameters based on /dev/wd0e. Already got the right answer but thanks for writing. --- From: Andy Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Sch?berle D?niel wrote: Hi all, I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab. [snip] cat /etc/fstab /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2 #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 . /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 . /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 I would suspect the /dev/wd0e line in your fstab is the culprit; all of the mfs examples I have seen in /etc/fstab look like: swap /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 as in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=111205241028217w=2
Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Andy Jack wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Sch?berle D?niel wrote: Hi all, I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab. [snip] cat /etc/fstab /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2 #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2 /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 I would suspect the /dev/wd0e line in your fstab is the culprit; all of the mfs examples I have seen in /etc/fstab look like: swap /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 as in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=111205241028217w=2 It's a perfectly legal fstab line, as is made clear in the man page (second paragraph). The primary swap device is mosty often used here, but it is not wrong to use another device, as only the disklabel parameters are read from the device specified. BTW, I prefer the 'noauto' solution to the OP problem. -Otto
Re: G3 iMac not seeing all of disk
Otto, Thanks for help friend. Of course, when I went back to look, that command seemed to appear in extra large bold type. ;) Many thanks! Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Matthew S Elmore wrote: Greetings misc@, I have run into a problem attempting to install OpenBSD 3.7 on a Rev. D (summer 2000, dark blue) iMac G3. I have a 30GB IDE drive installed in place of the factory 7GB. MacOS X sees the entire disk with no problems. However, OpenBSD cannot. It detects the size of the drive and I believe all it's specifications (correct # of cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) when it boots but the disklabel editor will not allow me to install any partitions past the 8GB barrier. Any idea on how I can utilize this whole disk? I would like to use the entire disk for OpenBSD. The b command in disklabel interactive editor is your friend, -Otto
Re: Summer of Code ?
I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects anymore... -Bob * Dunceor . [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-02 23:45]: I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD directly, without caring about the google contest. I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours on it. But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money, but for the fun. I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it. // Dunceor On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote: Ed White wrote: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html Where is OpenBSD ? why is your email two days late? Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards. I saw that and missed OpenBSD also. They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually. it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd either. hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money. -- all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for -- Bob Beck Computing and Network Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.
Re: Summer of Code ?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your email, but I'll bite. I'm a CS student (nearly graduated) with a job, family, and programming projects on the side, but one of my dreams would be to be able to, say, write drivers (provided hardware manufacturers ever release docs...) and I'd love to learn how. My first goal, though, would have to be getting more proficient in C and making sure I can use it effectivley on OpenBSD. So as I said, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where do I start? What resources are there? I love the man pages, but so far as I've seen anyway, there's not a place where I can begin to say Here's step 1 of 1549 in writing a driver. Nor is there a place I've seen that says, This needs to be written, wouldn't take tons of experience, but takes time no one has wanted to spend on it -- go to. Can you offer suggestions? I appreciate any help you can give, even if it's just RTFM. Thanks. -Josh Tolley On 6/3/05, Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects anymore... -Bob * Dunceor . [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-02 23:45]: I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD directly, without caring about the google contest. I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours on it. But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money, but for the fun. I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it. // Dunceor On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote: Ed White wrote: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html Where is OpenBSD ? why is your email two days late? Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards. I saw that and missed OpenBSD also. They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually. it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd either. hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money. -- all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for -- Bob Beck Computing and Network Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Alberta True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.
Re: Summer of Code ?
2005/6/3, Bob Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For example, let's say you have a particular ethernet card, for which there is support in say, linux, or netbsd, but not in OpenBSD. Find a card for which there is support in both. Now read the source code for both device drivers, and compare how both OS's do things slightly differently. Now use the device driver code from the other OS, and start bringing it over into OpenBSD. Well, don't use the Linux code, it contains a virus called GPL. But reading and comparing is good. Wijnand
Re: Gigabit Firewall NIC Interrupt Performance Problem
Bill Marquette wrote: On 6/2/05, Sean Knox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Bill- Is IRQ sharing done in BIOS? I'm using 2 onboard em(4) NICs and a dual port em(4) on a Supermicro 6023P-8: This was all done in BIOS on HP DL380's. The Supermicro BIOS (forgot the brand offhand) doesn't allow for setting IRQs manually, but one of the 133mhz slots shares an IRQ with the onboard NICs. em0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB) rev 0x03: irq 12, address: 00:04:23:a7:b4:4c em1 at pci3 dev 1 function 1 Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB) rev 0x03: irq 12, address: 00:04:23:a7:b4:4d em2 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB) rev 0x01: irq 12, address: 00:30:48:2c:95:e8 em3 at pci3 dev 2 function 1 Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB) rev 0x01: irq 12, address: 00:30:48:2c:95:e9 That should help a good deal. * ensure PCI card is in 133mhz slot (pretty sure it is) This never hurts :) ...but what does it hurt is installing the NIC in a 66mhz slot. Ouch. I'll have to wait until next week to try this fix in the primary firewall; I'll report back to the group when that's done. Thanks again. cheers, sk
Re: Maximum MAXDSIZ
On Sat, 28 May 2005, Fernando Braga wrote: Looking vmparam.h, I see maximum data size for a process is limited to 1GB. As these servers came with 4GB RAM (and I really need this memory), I'd like to know if it is possible to raise this limit. this is like asking what happens when you eat the magic mushroom. maybe you'll like it, maybe you won't, but it's probably going to be weird. -- we used to hate people now we just make fun of them it's more effective that way
