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Re: nfe0 problem (obsd 4.1)
On 6/24/07, Vijay Sankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 24 June 2007 13:50, patrick keshishian wrote: Hi, I've been noticing some strange problems with the built-in nfe0 interface on my desktop. Actually I've seen it on two such computers, but the description below is for my current desktop PC. The PC is running `cvs up -dP -rOPENBSD_4_1' built. I'm including netstat, ifconfig output[1] and dmesg below[2]. I've noticed that once in a while the nfe0 interface will stop sending and receiving data. At this point I can not make it work again. The only solution I have is to reboot the box. I have installed a dc0 card in the box since. The problem seemed intermittent and not reliably reproducible. But I think I found a way to reproduce this problem on demand (at least for the time being). I have an ssh session to another box, on which I run '/usr/bin/nm somelib.so'. After a page or two of output the terminal hangs. At this point nfe0 becomes unresponsive. I switch to the dc0 interface and the terminal finishes the output. Running the nm command while using the dc0 interface doesn't cause any problems. I experienced similar problems last year and can empathize. The following items improved my situation somewhat: 1) BIOS upgrade 2) Removing dual boot (I had both OpenBSD and Windows 2003 on one machine. There were more errors if I did not power off after shutting down Windows 2003 and just did a restart from within Windows. If I did not unplug the machine after shutting down Windows, most of the time I saw watchdog timeouts but if I powered off the host, and then powered it back on, there were fewer errors) Both boxes I have run solely OpenBSD. One thing that I did notice was that after switching to the dc0 interface for a short while (5 min or so?), I could switch back to the nfe0 and it would start responding again. Basically: # /sbin/ifconfig dc0 delete # /sbin/route delete default # /sbin/ifconfig nfe0 inet IP netmask netmask up # /sbin/route add default gateway Therefore, a reboot isn't the only way to fix the problem (reset the interface) as I had previously thought. I am not sure exactly what causes the interface to reset: idle time, no carrier, or something completely random? Either way, thanks for all the replies! I experimented with different combinations and different switches (10/100/1000, 10/100, and 10-Base-T). When all the hosts connected to a 10/100 switch were running at 100 MB/s then changing nfe0 from autoselect to full-duplex using ifconfig nfe0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex seemed to eliminate nfe0 hangs as well as timeouts completely. I am not sure whether this has any rational basis or is specific to some weird situation in my network, but that has been my experience. Vijay Interestingly enough, if I redirect the output of nm to a file and subsequently cat the file the nfe0 interface doesn't seem to exhibit the same problem. I am not sure how to diagnose this problem further. I've enabled debug on the nfe0 interface (/sbin/ifconfig nfe0 debug), but don't see any output. Any and all suggestions are welcome. --patrick
Re: troubles with pkg_add -u
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:36:24AM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote: Since the Hackathon every time I update to the latest snapshots and run a pkg_add -iuv I get fatal errors with random package updates. I usually have to remove by hand (pkg_delete fails) and reinstall the given package. The errors I get are along the lines of: qt3-mt-3.7p5 (deleting): complete Undefined subroutine OpenBSD::PackingElement::FileBase::rename_file_to_temp calledRead [...] /usr/sbin/pkg_add: Deinstallation of qt3-mt-3.7p5 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5.1 And you haven't tried updating pkg_add itself since then ?
troubles with pkg_add -u
Since the Hackathon every time I update to the latest snapshots and run a pkg_add -iuv I get fatal errors with random package updates. I usually have to remove by hand (pkg_delete fails) and reinstall the given package. The errors I get are along the lines of: qt3-mt-3.7p5 (deleting): complete Undefined subroutine OpenBSD::PackingElement::FileBase::rename_file_to_temp calledRead [...] /usr/sbin/pkg_add: Deinstallation of qt3-mt-3.7p5 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5.1 And then I get two partial pkgs in /var/db/pkg: $ cat /var/db/pkg/partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5 partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5.1/ partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5/ When I try to remove those I get: $ sudo pkg_delete /var/db/pkg/partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5* partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5.1: complete Warning: couldn't read packing-list from installed package partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5 File /var/db/pkg/partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5/+CONTENTS does not exist /usr/sbin/pkg_delete: Bad package And I'm left with: /var/db/pkg/partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5/+DESC Which I usually have to rm by hand. Also I have the original qt package still in the list which can't be upgraded and, if attempted, sends me back to step 1. This is not package specific. It happened with different packages before I decided to write about it here.
Re: problems with kthread
syl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if I'm at the right place to ask this question, but I
might aswell try; I'm writing you this mail because there is one thing
I can't understand in the openbsd kthread.
Actually, it is those two functions from the kthread's man :
kthread_create and kthread_create_deferred.. from man 9
kthread_create creates a kernel thread and kthread_create_deferred
adds a pointer to a function in a queue that will be then went through
and each of it's elements will be launched in a seperate kthread.
I wrote a simple syscall using the lkm and kthread_create;
Here is the syscall :
#include sys/param.h
#include sys/kthread.h
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/malloc.h
#define NB_THREAD 1
voidtheHook(void *data)
{
uprintf(Goodbye threaded world\n);
kthread_exit(0);
}
int mycall(struct proc *p, void *uap, int retval[])
{
int error;
struct proc *mypr;
uprintf( I create a new thread for fun :)\n );
kthread_create(theHook, NULL, mypr, bite!);
return (0);
}
But it would not work : The thread was not launched.
Erm. How do you know it didn't work?
You're definitely using uprintf incorrectly since the kthread will not
have any tty, therefore it won't know where to print stuff. So if you're
depending on uprintf to know what happened, it won't do what you think
it will.
uprintf should be used very carefully.
I therefor replaced kthread_create by kthread_create_deferred and it
looked like this :
kthread_create_deferred is not for you.
//art
Re: LC_COLLATE and PostgreSQL
Hi Ben, than You for answer. My PostgreSQL instance works fine. The problem is in OpenBSD unfortunately. PostgreSQL uses COLLATION support served by operating system and default BSD has C and POSSIX COLLATION. I am looking for solution for this problem. I need native support for polish language with specific string sorts. Regards, Artur On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:47:29 -0700, Ben Calvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2007, at 1:41 PM, bsd_news wrote: Hi I like OpenBSD very much but: I have not proper sorts in my PostgreSQL 8.1 database on my OpenBSD 4.0 server. I had set in /etc/profile the LC_COLLATE to pl_PL.ISO8859-2. The PostgreSQL cluster was created by command: initdb --locale=pl_PL.ISO8859-2 -E LATIN2 --lc-messages=C --lc- monetary=C --lc-numeric=C --lc-time=C -D /var/postgresql/data. I do not know is there possibility to fix this problem - maybe OpenBSD now support only C and POSIX collation ? If i understand you correctly, you're having trouble with how Postgresql colates, not OpenBSD. you should consult the Postgresql docs, starting with http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/charset.html#AEN22133 Thanks for every help, best regards, Artur ps. sorry for my poor English Ben
Re: troubles with pkg_add -u
Forgot to mention that this repros on two i386 machines and an amd64.
howto set nfsbootdevname for nfsroot?
Hi list, I have successfully set up a client for diskless(8) booting. However, this works only when booting from the first (onboard) nic. When i use another nic, the kernel still tries to do revarp from the first nic, which fails. sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c offers a possibility to override the default search: /* * Find a network interface. */ if (nfsbootdevname) ifp = ifunit(nfsbootdevname); else search loop ... but where/how can i set nfsbootdevname? The boot.conf(8) manpage talks about passing options to the kernel via set howto. Could i use that? -- Heinrich Rebehn University of Bremen Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering - Department of Telecommunications - Phone : +49/421/218-4664 Fax :-3341
Re: troubles with pkg_add -u
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:08:48AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:36:24AM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote: Since the Hackathon every time I update to the latest snapshots and run a pkg_add -iuv I get fatal errors with random package updates. I usually have to remove by hand (pkg_delete fails) and reinstall the given package. The errors I get are along the lines of: qt3-mt-3.7p5 (deleting): complete Undefined subroutine OpenBSD::PackingElement::FileBase::rename_file_to_temp calledRead [...] /usr/sbin/pkg_add: Deinstallation of qt3-mt-3.7p5 failed, partial installation recorded as partial-qt3-mt-3.7p5.1 And you haven't tried updating pkg_add itself since then ? Well (as I said above) getting the latest snapshot before running pkg_add implies ``updating'' it. Right?
Re: howto set nfsbootdevname for nfsroot?
hi!
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:50:03AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
I have successfully set up a client for diskless(8) booting.
However, this works only when booting from the first (onboard) nic.
When i use another nic, the kernel still tries to do revarp from the
first nic, which fails.
sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c offers a possibility to override the default search:
/*
* Find a network interface.
*/
if (nfsbootdevname)
ifp = ifunit(nfsbootdevname);
else search loop
...
but where/how can i set nfsbootdevname?
The boot.conf(8) manpage talks about passing options to the kernel via
set howto. Could i use that?
you cannot set the nfsbootdevname as a kernel option. it is filled in
by autoconf. for example, pxeboot passes the mac address of its boot
interface and autoconf looks up the matching network interface in
sys/arch/i386/i386/autoconf.c
---snip---
#if defined(NFSCLIENT)
if (bios_bootmac) {
extern char *nfsbootdevname;
struct ifnet *ifp;
mountroot = nfs_mountroot;
printf(PXE boot MAC address %s, ,
ether_sprintf(bios_bootmac-mac));
for (ifp = TAILQ_FIRST(ifnet); ifp != NULL;
ifp = TAILQ_NEXT(ifp, if_list)) {
if ((ifp-if_type == IFT_ETHER ||
ifp-if_type == IFT_FDDI)
bcmp(bios_bootmac-mac,
((struct arpcom *)ifp)-ac_enaddr,
ETHER_ADDR_LEN) == 0)
break;
}
if (ifp) {
nfsbootdevname = ifp-if_xname;
printf(interface %s\n, nfsbootdevname);
} else
printf(no interface selected\n);
return;
}
#endif
---snap---
reyk
Re: LC_COLLATE and PostgreSQL
Hi Philip,
thank You match for answer and nice words :).
I am starting be concern for my problem but my love for OpenBSD is
stronger then sort problems (data on my web are sorted not correctly) and I
do not want to change system on may server.
Maybe in the nearest feature OpenBSD Developers change the COLLATION
support or someone know solution for this problem.
Best regards,
Artur
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:07:56 -0600, Philip Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 6/24/07, bsd_news [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I have not proper sorts in my PostgreSQL 8.1 database on my OpenBSD 4.0
server.
I had set in /etc/profile the LC_COLLATE to pl_PL.ISO8859-2.
...
I do not know is there possibility to fix this problem - maybe OpenBSD
now
support only C and POSIX collation ?
Your guess is correct: OpenBSD only supports the default locale, C.
To quote the source for the strcoll() function:
int
strcoll(const char *s1, const char *s2)
{
/* LC_COLLATE is unimplemented, hence always C */
return (strcmp(s1, s2));
}
ps. sorry for my poor English
Seemed fine to me: I had no problem understanding what you were doing
and what wasn't working as you expected. Indeed, you provided better
information than some native speakers posting queries here.
Philip Guenther
Re: howto set nfsbootdevname for nfsroot?
Reyk Floeter wrote:
hi!
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:50:03AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
I have successfully set up a client for diskless(8) booting.
However, this works only when booting from the first (onboard) nic.
When i use another nic, the kernel still tries to do revarp from the
first nic, which fails.
sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c offers a possibility to override the default search:
/*
* Find a network interface.
*/
if (nfsbootdevname)
ifp = ifunit(nfsbootdevname);
else search loop
...
but where/how can i set nfsbootdevname?
The boot.conf(8) manpage talks about passing options to the kernel via
set howto. Could i use that?
you cannot set the nfsbootdevname as a kernel option. it is filled in
by autoconf. for example, pxeboot passes the mac address of its boot
interface and autoconf looks up the matching network interface in
sys/arch/i386/i386/autoconf.c
---snip---
#if defined(NFSCLIENT)
if (bios_bootmac) {
extern char *nfsbootdevname;
struct ifnet *ifp;
mountroot = nfs_mountroot;
printf(PXE boot MAC address %s, ,
ether_sprintf(bios_bootmac-mac));
for (ifp = TAILQ_FIRST(ifnet); ifp != NULL;
ifp = TAILQ_NEXT(ifp, if_list)) {
if ((ifp-if_type == IFT_ETHER ||
ifp-if_type == IFT_FDDI)
bcmp(bios_bootmac-mac,
((struct arpcom *)ifp)-ac_enaddr,
ETHER_ADDR_LEN) == 0)
break;
}
if (ifp) {
nfsbootdevname = ifp-if_xname;
printf(interface %s\n, nfsbootdevname);
} else
printf(no interface selected\n);
return;
}
#endif
---snap---
reyk
Hmm, at least in my case this does not seem to work.
I have not much C experience, but should nfsbootdevname not be declared
extern in sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c as well?
--Heinrich
Re: howto set nfsbootdevname for nfsroot?
Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
Reyk Floeter wrote:
hi!
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:50:03AM +0200, Heinrich Rebehn wrote:
I have successfully set up a client for diskless(8) booting.
However, this works only when booting from the first (onboard) nic.
When i use another nic, the kernel still tries to do revarp from the
first nic, which fails.
sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c offers a possibility to override the default search:
/*
* Find a network interface.
*/
if (nfsbootdevname)
ifp = ifunit(nfsbootdevname);
else search loop
...
but where/how can i set nfsbootdevname?
The boot.conf(8) manpage talks about passing options to the kernel
via set howto. Could i use that?
you cannot set the nfsbootdevname as a kernel option. it is filled in
by autoconf. for example, pxeboot passes the mac address of its boot
interface and autoconf looks up the matching network interface in
sys/arch/i386/i386/autoconf.c
---snip---
#if defined(NFSCLIENT)
if (bios_bootmac) {
extern char *nfsbootdevname;
struct ifnet *ifp;
mountroot = nfs_mountroot;
printf(PXE boot MAC address %s, ,
ether_sprintf(bios_bootmac-mac));
for (ifp = TAILQ_FIRST(ifnet); ifp != NULL;
ifp = TAILQ_NEXT(ifp, if_list)) {
if ((ifp-if_type == IFT_ETHER ||
ifp-if_type == IFT_FDDI)
bcmp(bios_bootmac-mac,
((struct arpcom *)ifp)-ac_enaddr,
ETHER_ADDR_LEN) == 0)
break;
}
if (ifp) {
nfsbootdevname = ifp-if_xname;
printf(interface %s\n, nfsbootdevname);
} else
printf(no interface selected\n);
return;
}
#endif
---snap---
reyk
Hmm, at least in my case this does not seem to work.
I have not much C experience, but should nfsbootdevname not be declared
extern in sys/nfs/nfs_boot.c as well?
I also do not see any output from the printf's above. Maybe
bios_bootmac is not true? NFSCLIENT *is* defined. Config is GENERIC with
root on nfs swap on nfs.
I am attaching a dmesg from a successfull boot from the onboard nic.
--Heinrich
OpenBSD 4.1-stable (DISKLESS) #0: Fri Jun 22 10:41:43 CEST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/DISKLESS
cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2
cache) 1.81 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3
cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
real mem = 536113152 (523548K)
avail mem = 481468416 (470184K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26931200 bytes (26300K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 11/03/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS
rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0530 (67 entries)
bios0: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A8V
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf5980/192 (10 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000 0xcb000/0x800 0xcb800/0x800 0xcc000/0x1000
acpi at mainbus0 not configured
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 VIA K8HTB Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA K8HTB AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Rage 128 Pro TF rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
skc0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 rev 0x13,
Yukon Lite (0x9): irq 10
sk0 at skc0 port A, address 00:13:d4:de:cf:88
eephy0 at sk0 phy 0: Marvell 88E1011 Gigabit PHY, rev. 5
xl0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 10,
address 00:0a:5e:61:7a:2d
exphy0 at xl0 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface
xl1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 3Com 3c905C 100Base-TX rev 0x78: irq 3, address
00:0a:5e:61:7a:04
exphy1 at xl1 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT6420 SATA rev 0x80: DMA
pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: Maxtor 6V080E0
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133,
Re: troubles with pkg_add -u
And here are the dmesgs before and after the latest snapshot update. OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #1122: Wed Jun 20 22:10:55 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1073016832 (1023MB) avail mem = 1030762496 (983MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0730 (59 entries) bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5VDC-MX acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz, 2793.47 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG cpu0: 1MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 VIA PT890 Host rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 rev 0xa1 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT8251 SATA rev 0x00: DMA pciide0: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD800JD-00LSA0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x07: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TOSHIBA, CD/DVDW SDR5472D, TU00 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide1: channel 1 disabled (no drives) uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 5 uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 10 uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 3 ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x90: irq 5 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8251 ISA rev 0x00 iic0 at viapm0 pchb6 at pci0 dev 17 function 7 VIA VT8251 VLINK rev 0x00 vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 VIA RhineII-2 rev 0x7c: irq 11, address 00:e0:12:34:56:78 rlphy0 at vr0 phy 1: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 VIA VT8251 PCIE rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8251 PCIE rev 0x00 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 VIA VT8251 PCIE rev 0x00 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 ppb4 at pci0 dev 19 function 1 VIA VT8251 PCI rev 0x00 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 cmpci0 at pci5 dev 9 function 0 C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX Audio rev 0x10: irq 5 audio0 at cmpci0 opl at cmpci0 not configured mpu at cmpci0 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it2 at isa0 port 0xd00/8: IT87 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b /dev/wd0k: file system not clean; please fsck(8) OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #1122: Wed Jun 20 22:10:55 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1073016832 (1023MB) avail mem = 1030762496 (983MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0730 (59 entries) bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5VDC-MX acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz, 2793.47 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG cpu0: 1MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA CN700 Host rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0
Re: cannot enable executable stack...
I have successfully ported the relevant material from the NetBSD patches
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/compat/linux/common/linux_misc.c.diff?r1=1.140r2=1.141
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/compat/linux/common/linux_mmap.h.diff?r1=1.16r2=1.17
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/compat/linux/arch/i386/syscalls.master.diff?r1=1.61r2=1.62
to OpenBSD. The OpenBSD patch is given at the end of this message. Be
There have been requests that I resubmit the patch as a unified
diff, rather than a context diff. The patch is given below. Remember to
run the make file at /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/ after applying the patch.
--- /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_misc.c.orig Wed Feb 14 18:07:51 2007
+++ /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_misc.c Mon Jun 25 00:13:42 2007
@@ -718,6 +718,70 @@
}
+int
+linux_sys_mprotect(p, v, retval)
+ struct proc *p;
+ void *v;
+ register_t *retval;
+{
+ struct linux_sys_mprotect_args /* {
+ syscallarg(const void *) start;
+ syscallarg(unsigned long) len;
+ syscallarg(int) prot;
+ } */ *uap = v;
+ struct vm_map_entry *entry;
+ struct vm_map *map;
+ vaddr_t end, start, len, stacklim;
+ int prot, grows;
+
+ start = (vaddr_t)SCARG(uap, start);
+ len = round_page(SCARG(uap, len));
+ prot = SCARG(uap, prot);
+ grows = prot (LINUX_PROT_GROWSDOWN | LINUX_PROT_GROWSUP);
+ prot = ~grows;
+ end = start + len;
+
+ if (start PAGE_MASK)
+ return EINVAL;
+ if (end start)
+ return EINVAL;
+ if (end == start)
+ return 0;
+
+ if (prot ~(PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_EXEC))
+ return EINVAL;
+ if (grows == (LINUX_PROT_GROWSDOWN | LINUX_PROT_GROWSUP))
+ return EINVAL;
+
+ map = p-p_vmspace-vm_map;
+ vm_map_lock(map);
+ if (!uvm_map_lookup_entry(map, start, entry) || entry-start start) {
+ vm_map_unlock(map);
+ return ENOMEM;
+ }
+
+ /*
+* Approximate the behaviour of PROT_GROWS{DOWN,UP}.
+*/
+
+ stacklim = (vaddr_t)p-p_limit-pl_rlimit[RLIMIT_STACK].rlim_cur;
+ if (grows LINUX_PROT_GROWSDOWN) {
+ if (USRSTACK - stacklim = start start USRSTACK) {
+ start = USRSTACK - stacklim;
+ } else {
+ start = entry-start;
+ }
+ } else if (grows LINUX_PROT_GROWSUP) {
+ if (USRSTACK = end end USRSTACK + stacklim) {
+ end = USRSTACK + stacklim;
+ } else {
+ end = entry-end;
+ }
+ }
+ vm_map_unlock(map);
+ return uvm_map_protect(map, start, end, prot, FALSE);
+}
+
/*
* This code is partly stolen from src/lib/libc/gen/times.c
* XXX - CLK_TCK isn't declared in /sys, just in time.h, done here
--- /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_mmap.h.orig Wed Apr 17 05:23:56 1996
+++ /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_mmap.h Mon Jun 25 00:13:42 2007
@@ -38,6 +38,8 @@
#define LINUX_PROT_READ0x01
#define LINUX_PROT_WRITE 0x02
#define LINUX_PROT_EXEC0x04
+#define LINUX_PROT_GROWSDOWN 0x0100
+#define LINUX_PROT_GROWSUP 0x0200
#define LINUX_MAP_SHARED 0x0001
#define LINUX_MAP_PRIVATE 0x0002
--- /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/syscalls.master.orig Wed Oct 27 13:23:38 2004
+++ /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/syscalls.master Mon Jun 25 00:13:42 2007
@@ -223,7 +223,8 @@
123STD { int linux_sys_modify_ldt(void); }
#endif
124STD { int linux_sys_adjtimex(void); }
-125NOARGS { int sys_mprotect(caddr_t addr, int len, int prot); }
+125STD { int linux_sys_mprotect(const void *start, \
+ unsigned long len, int prot); }
126STD { int linux_sys_sigprocmask(int how, \
linux_old_sigset_t *set, linux_old_sigset_t *oset);
}
127STD { int linux_sys_create_module(void); }
Re: ping: sendto: No route to host
OK... I know I did not give enough information to allow people help. So here are some more. The firewall works fine running routed most of the time. It is running 4.1-STABLE (below is a dmesg). I see a lot of interrupts on both internal and external interfaces sk0 and sk1. Something like 3600. This a bit odd (in my opinion) since I have another firewall running 3.7 and routed in which the total amount of interrupts is never above 500 (in the same place). Now, this period of instability (in which not even ping works) happens only once or twice a day. It lasts not longer than 10 minutes, and then everything start working again. The other day, I noticed that the routed daemon was not running although the RIP socket was still bound. I have a process that periodically makes sure that the main processes are still operational. I received this message: ps: kvm_getproc2: Cannot allocate memory routed: bind(rip_sock): Address already in use; giving up from the cron daemon. I need some ideas to help me to isolate the problem. Thanks in advance. Regards, Jeff. --- OpenBSD 4.1-stable (GENERIC) #1: Sat May 12 10:14:17 BRT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.80 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,CNXT-ID,xTPR real mem = 501772288 (490012K) avail mem = 450052096 (439504K) using 4278 buffers containing 25210880 bytes (24620K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/17/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf9ed0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf (42 entries) bios0: PCCHIPS P25G apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xce54 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfcdb0/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xe600 acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x0296 rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x1296 rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x2296 rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x3296 rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x4296 rev 0x00 pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x7296 rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8378 VGA rev 0x01: aperture at 0xf400, size 0x1000 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) skc0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 D-Link Systems DGE-530T A1 rev 0x11, Yukon (0x1): irq 10 sk0 at skc0 port A, address 00:13:46:71:f7:c7 eephy0 at sk0 phy 0: Marvell 88E1011 Gigabit PHY, rev. 3 skc1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 D-Link Systems DGE-530T A1 rev 0x11, Yukon (0x1): irq 5 sk1 at skc1 port A, address 00:13:46:71:f3:4a eephy1 at sk1 phy 0: Marvell 88E1011 Gigabit PHY, rev. 3 pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT6420 SATA rev 0x80: DMA pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: SAMSUNG SP0842N wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TSSTcorp, CDW/DVD SH-M522C, TS05 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 cd0(pciide1:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide1: channel 1 disabled (no drives) uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 10 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 10 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11 usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x86: irq 5 usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub4 at usb4 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports
RTHREADS and librthread
I hope there are people using/testing/developing rthreads out there who can explain to me why syscall getthrid fails with SIGSYS on my system, 4.1-release. 1. I have RTHREADS defined in my kernel. I have checked that the rthread code is included at compile time, and I also tried this: $ grep getthrid /bsd Binary file /bsd matches 2. The code I'm trying to run: http://www.nabble.com/file/p11287569/rthread.tar rthread.tar It may be extremely stupid, but it compiles... 3. I compiled and installed librthread, and copied librthread.so.1.0 in place of libpthread.so.7.0 My program is linked against libpthread: $ ldd rthtest rthtest: StartEnd Type Open Ref GrpRef Name exe 10 0 rthtest 0bd7c000 2bd85000 rlib 01 0 /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 0cde 2ce14000 rlib 01 0 /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 00466000 00466000 rtld 01 0 /usr/libexec/ld.so 4. Output and info: $ ./rthtest Bad system call (core dumped) $ gdb ./rthtest rthtest.core GNU gdb 6.3 [...GPL...] Core was generated by `rthtest'. Program terminated with signal 12, Bad system call. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 Symbols already loaded for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3...done.Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/libexec/ld.so #0 0x02a846a1 in getthrid () from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 (gdb) bt #0 0x02a846a1 in getthrid () from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 #1 0x1c0006bb in funkythread (data=0x3c11) at rthreadtest.c:11 #2 0x0df40fcb in _thread_start () at /usr/src/lib/libpthread/uthread/uthread_create.c:244 #3 0x001f in ?? () #4 0x in ?? () Did I do something extremely wrong when I tried to switch to rthreads? Do I need to recompile lots of things? Don't point me to using the regular libpthread, I have good reason to try rthreads. Alsodon't use this post to start a troll-inducing thread about performance, scalability and/or personal opinions about threads and their usage. Reply with useful information or shut up. // Vortechz -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RTHREADS-and-librthread-tf3976489.html#a11287569 Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Recommendations for zone management (web)tool for Bind?
Hello, Although aware of the general aversion against web gui's on this list (which I understand) I still would like to be able to allow people to manage their own zonefile. Allowing so from within a webpage seems the most logical step for me. Looking at the many webbased clients outthere I am wondering if anybody here has succesfully and more importantly safely deployed something on OpenBSD? I know PowerDNS / PowerAdmin is a widely used combo on many machines but I prefer to stick with OpenBSD's version of Bind and the chrooted httpd. I fully understand the implications of writing to file or database through php/perl/cgi etc. but am I right in understanding that by manipulating ones own zonefile one can only break that particular zone and never the DNS operations on a box? Any recommendations / alternative suggestions are very welcome. Thanks Matt
Re: Recommendations for zone management (web)tool for Bind?
At 05:31 PM 6/25/2007 +0200, you wrote: Hello, Although aware of the general aversion against web gui's on this list (which I understand) I still would like to be able to allow people to manage their own zonefile. Webmin will do what you wish, .. but it might take some scripting to manage permissions so the user will only see THEIR zone file. Lee
xfce windows manager
Hello, I wanted to use xfce for my systems' windows manager, which packages are must required? (I have install the X base). thanks! Alex
isakmpd on OpenBSD 3.7 and OpenBSD 4.0
Hello, I see that OpenBSD 3.7 isakmpd and OpenBSD 4.0 isakmpd do not establish security associations. I get an INVALID-PAYLOAD-TYPE message. isakmpd 3.7 does not seem to understand payload RESERVED. Is there a way I can run isakmpd 4.0 downgraded or any other way to get the two of them to work together? Thank you, ./catalin - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
Re: xfce windows manager
x11/xfce4 On 6/25/07, Alex Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I wanted to use xfce for my systems' windows manager, which packages are must required? (I have install the X base). thanks! Alex -- almir
Re: Strange crashes started this morning
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:27:11PM -0400, Alex Feldman wrote: Hi Andrew You crash dump doesn't show that it crashed on san driver. I'm saying that this is not the problem with san driver but it doesn't show any driver related function in crash trace. I do not see that either. However, I am not familier with the internals of the OpenBSD kernel. Theo is, and he seems to think it is a san issue. At this point I trust his judgment above yours. My suggestion would be to provide the documentation that the OpenBSD team is looking for so that they can prove one way or another where the problems are and improve the code for everyone. For both Andrew and Richard: 1. If you can send me the crash trace that includes san driver function that will be helpful. I expect that it would, unfortunatly, I cannot reproduce this problem on command. It only happened the one day so far and I have no idea what caused it. How about, while waiting for more information on this problem, you see if you can do anything about a problem I can repeat. It causes me no end of trouble because it makes both routers DDB any time I soft boot them. That means I can't upgrade the version of OpenBSD on them remotely. This I attribute to the san stuff because it doesn't happen in any of the other machines I am running OpenBSD on. You may notice that the trace for this one also doesn't reference any san driver calls. You can see it in bug number 5404: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=5404 In bug 4484, someone else seems to have had similar issues: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=4484 Who knows, getting the OpenBSD developers the documentation they need so they can fix that issue will coincidently fix the one I am complaining about now. 2. Can you send me the configuration for ppp/Wanpipe and details instruction how to get this crash; I'll try to resolve this issue. Here is the configuration on the interfaces that seemed to cause the issue this last time. They are they only lines I have that are PROTO=ppp, the rest are HDLC (PROTO=cisco). $ sudo sanconfig san2 ALEX2 Hardware configuration for san2: AFT-A102 : SLOT=8 : BUS=0 : IRQ=10 : CPU=A : PORT=PRI Interface configuration for san2: MEDIA=T1 LCODE=B8ZS FRAME=ESF TECLOCK=Normal LBO=0db ACTIVE_CH=all PROTO=ppp $ sudo sanconfig san3 ALEX2 Hardware configuration for san3: AFT-A102 : SLOT=8 : BUS=0 : IRQ=10 : CPU=B : PORT=PRI Interface configuration for san3: MEDIA=T1 LCODE=B8ZS FRAME=ESF TECLOCK=Normal LBO=0db ACTIVE_CH=all PROTO=ppp For the other, I will just quote what I wrote before. From: andrew fresh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two resons I believe it is the Sangoma driver causing the problem. The first is the message from Theo that you can read in the archives here: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118246162917905w=2 where he said I suggest you call [Sangoma]. The second being the logs. They are in the messages linked above, but just before the router locked up there were san messages in /var/log/messages and on the console there is san2: LCP keepalive timeout. And this: I am not sure what triggers this problem and it has not happened again since the times mentioned in that email so it is fairly difficult to debug. l8rZ, -- andrew - ICQ# 253198 - Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BOFH excuse of the day: Pentium FDIV bug
Re: xfce windows manager
Here are the packages (and their dependencies) that I install to get a nice Xfce desktop: xfce-utils xfce4-session xfce4-taskbar xfdesktop xfwm4 Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Alex Kwan Sent: Mon 6/25/2007 11:26 AM To: OpenBSD general usage list Subject: xfce windows manager Hello, I wanted to use xfce for my systems' windows manager, which packages are must required? (I have install the X base). thanks! Alex
Re: 4.1 upgrade problem
For the archives: After a lot of head scratching, I discovered that symlinking /var/www to somewhere else using an absolute path causes problems such as what I was seeing during install. It is normal since the root location changes. Use relative symlinks.
Re: difficulties mounting DVDs I burn with growisofs
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:48:14AM -0500, Craig Brozefsky wrote: I recently burned two DVDs with my new DVD burner and I am unable to mount them on my OpenBSD box using the same burner, tho my Linux laptop mounts them. I am running OpenBSD 4.1 amd64. Pleae let me know if there is any other information that would help, or things I could try to get more debugging info to developers. Here is the drive id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo atactl cd0 identify Model: TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182D, Rev: SB01, Serial #: Device type: ATAPI, fixed Cylinders: 0, heads: 0, sec/track: 0, total sectors: 0 Device capabilities: IORDY operation IORDY disabling Device has enabled the following command sets/features: I burned them with growisofs. One had -dvd-compat turned on, and the other did not. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount -t udf /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom mount_udf: mount: Invalid argument [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0c on /mnt/cdrom: Invalid argument Here is what shows up in dmesg: Jun 25 01:21:07 piracy /bsd: cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x28 Jun 25 01:21:07 piracy /bsd: SENSE KEY: Illegal Request Jun 25 01:21:07 piracy /bsd: ASC/ASCQ: Logical Block Address Out of Range You are mounting the wrong device; try /dev/cd0a. Joachim -- TFMotD: atalk (4) - AppleTalk Protocol Family
telnetd ?
Yes, I know it's a bad idea, but for reasons beyond my control, I need to provide a telnet service on an OpeBSD 4.0 machine. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a telnetd built by default. How can I get this daemon built? -- I'm sorry, no one here has any intentions of helping you with anything. I am the manager of all of Customer Service.
Re: carp + mysql replication: failover
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: have two machines that are carped and have mysql databases on them. one machine is the mysql master and the other a slave that replicates the master. this keeps things ready for what i've just experienced: mysql master machine goes down. now that a master failure has occurred, i am not certain of the best path for bringing the master back online so that it's synced with the slave. to bring the master back online correctly i see the following as an obvious, but laborious, path: (1) restart master and increase advskew on the carp interface so the slave stays MASTER (2) edit config files and restart mysql on both machines so that the slave is now the master and vice versa for the original master (3) initiate slave replication onto the original master (4 - optional) decrease advskew on the original master machine so that it takes over (5 - optional) restart mysql on both machines, swapping the master and slave configs. the optional steps are only if restoring the original master as master is desired. if there is another way to do what i've described above that doesn't involve downtime for mysql or is more easily automated, please advise. in case anybody else encounters a similar situation, a friendly bird whistled in my ear: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2006/04/20/advanced-mysql-replication.html cheers, jake
port knocking?
Hi Misc@, I was wondering what the general census on port knocking in the OpenBSD community is. I like the idea of hiding services but I don't like the idea of relying on a piece of code that's not part of the OpenBSD core. I know when it comes down to it, it's only hiding ports and not actually securing anything. I am assuming that it's not practiced in the OpenBSD world because there are no port knocking ports. Anyone not agree with that summation? Thanks, John :: John Brahy :: CTO/CIO :: ad2, Inc. :: http://www.ad2.com http://www.ad2.com/ :: :: 1990 E Grand Avenue :: Suite 200 :: El Segundo CA 90245 :: :: t: 310-356-7500 main line :: f: 310-356-7520
Re: telnetd ?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, stan wrote: Yes, I know it's a bad idea, but for reasons beyond my control, I need to provide a telnet service on an OpeBSD 4.0 machine. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a telnetd built by default. Yes it was removed and you could've searched the archives: http://openbsd.org/mail.html How can I get this daemon built? Get it from CVS and compile? -- Antti Harri
Re: telnetd ?
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 02:59:58PM -0400, stan wrote:
Yes, I know it's a bad idea, but for reasons beyond my control, I
need to provide a telnet service on an OpeBSD 4.0 machine.
Unfortunately there does not seem to be a telnetd built by
default.
How can I get this daemon built?
Search the archives...
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=telnetdq=b?
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Re: port knocking?
2007/6/25, John N. Brahy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was wondering what the general census on port knocking in the OpenBSD community is. I like the idea of hiding services but I don't List archives exist. Best Martin
Re: port knocking?
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 10:48 -0700, John N. Brahy wrote: Hi Misc@, I was wondering what the general census on port knocking in the OpenBSD community is. I like the idea of hiding services but I don't like the idea of relying on a piece of code that's not part of the OpenBSD core. I know when it comes down to it, it's only hiding ports and not actually securing anything. I am assuming that it's not practiced in the OpenBSD world because there are no port knocking ports. Anyone not agree with that summation? I can't speak for others, but I don't practice it because there are better (and developer-supported) ways to keep people out. If you're paranoid about hiding services, authpf is, in my opinion, superior to any other solution that I've seen.
Re: difficulties mounting DVDs I burn with growisofs
Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are mounting the wrong device; try /dev/cd0a. Ah, I tried that earlier, this is what I get.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0a on /mnt/cdrom: Device not configured [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ sudo mount -t udf /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom mount_udf: open: Device not configured [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ Disklabel shows only one big partition: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo disklabel cd0 # /dev/rcd0c: type: ATAPI disk: ATAPI CD-ROM label: fictitious flags: bytes/sector: 2048 sectors/track: 100 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 100 cylinders: 4001 total sectors: 40 rpm: 300 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c:40 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 3999 On a whim, I put in a totally blank disc, and disklabel gave the same output. So it would appear that the problem is that the hardware and/or driver are not able to recognize the disk? What can I do to help debug this? -- Sincerely, Craig Brozefsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] what a klon - neko http://www.red-bean.com/~craig Less matter, more form! - Bruno Schulz ignazz, I am truly korrupted by yore sinful tzourceware. -jb
Re: difficulties mounting DVDs I burn with growisofs
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 02:31:49PM -0500, Craig Brozefsky wrote: Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are mounting the wrong device; try /dev/cd0a. Ah, I tried that earlier, this is what I get.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ sudo mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0a on /mnt/cdrom: Device not configured [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ sudo mount -t udf /dev/cd0a /mnt/cdrom mount_udf: open: Device not configured [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/bbb$ Disklabel shows only one big partition: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo disklabel cd0 # /dev/rcd0c: type: ATAPI disk: ATAPI CD-ROM label: fictitious flags: bytes/sector: 2048 sectors/track: 100 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 100 cylinders: 4001 total sectors: 40 rpm: 300 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c:40 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 3999 It should be like this # disklabel cd0 # /dev/rcd0c: type: ATAPI disk: MY_DISC label: flags: bytes/sector: 2048 sectors/track: 100 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 100 cylinders: 2551 total sectors: 255030 rpm: 300 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:255030 0 ISO9660 # Cyl 0 - 2550* c:255030 0 ISO9660 # Cyl 0 - 2550* # mount /dev/cd0a /mnt/cd/ On a whim, I put in a totally blank disc, and disklabel gave the same output. So it would appear that the problem is that the hardware and/or driver are not able to recognize the disk? What can I do to help debug this? Start by putting in a disk that really should work - any factory-pressed disk. If OpenBSD understands this, it means that the disk drive is not completely unsupported or something stupid like that. I presume you've already tried reading your disks on another machine. The next step would be to read the disks on this same machine using another OS. Or waiting for someone with more cd9660 smarts than me to tell you why this doesn't work - I seem to recall some recent work on supporting multisession CDs, so the cd9660 might not be as complete as we'd like. Joachim
Re: LC_COLLATE and PostgreSQL
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:50:10AM +0200, Artur Litwinowicz wrote: Hi Philip, thank You match for answer and nice words :). I am starting be concern for my problem but my love for OpenBSD is stronger then sort problems (data on my web are sorted not correctly) and I do not want to change system on may server. Maybe in the nearest feature OpenBSD Developers change the COLLATION support or someone know solution for this problem. Well, if you like to code, you might be able to port strcoll() and the like from another BSD - like FreeBSD. Joachim -- PotD: x11/bbkeys - X keygrabber for blackbox
Re: difficulties mounting DVDs I burn with growisofs
Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Start by putting in a disk that really should work - any factory-pressed disk. If OpenBSD understands this, it means that the disk drive is not completely unsupported or something stupid like that. Ok, I have read discs with this, tho it took a few tries to recognize my 4.1 install discs. Those were striaght up CDs. I'll try a unch of other DVD data disks I got. I presume you've already tried reading your disks on another machine. The next step would be to read the disks on this same machine using another OS. Yah, so for the purpose of backing up crap to DVD, I'm set. Or waiting for someone with more cd9660 smarts than me to tell you why this doesn't work - I seem to recall some recent work on supporting multisession CDs, so the cd9660 might not be as complete as we'd like. Linux recognized it as iso9660, and I'm not too clear on what the relationship of UDF and cd9660 is. Anyways, now that I had a reality check and I'm not doing something totally luserly, I'll do some reading and hopefully coding to fix it. Thanx for the reality check. -- Sincerely, Craig Brozefsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] what a klon - neko http://www.red-bean.com/~craig Less matter, more form! - Bruno Schulz ignazz, I am truly korrupted by yore sinful tzourceware. -jb
authpf allows only one user from the same source ip; kicks off previous user
When multiple users with the same source IP want access through the firewall authpf grants access to the newly authenticating user and kicks off the previous user. Is there a way to turn off this behaviour so both users maintain authpf tables? Works: 1a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - maintains logon 1b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - logs on Doesn't Work: 2a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - gets kicked off 2b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - logs on Real-life example: Step #1 xuser authenticates from IP_1; xuser has access to firewall firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v authpf authpf/bfisher(25933) authpf/xuser(1308) authpf/rarthur(15647) authpf/schatterjee(31961) Step #2 cyoub authenticates from IP_2; both xuser and cyoub have access to firewall firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v authpf authpf/bfisher(25933) authpf/cyoub(2104) authpf/xuser(1308) authpf/rarthur(15647) authpf/schatterjee(31961) Step #3 cyoub authenticates from IP_1; ONLY cyoub has access to firewall as he was the last to login. xuser is kicked off??? firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v authpf authpf/bfisher(25933) authpf/cyoub(27921) authpf/rarthur(15647) authpf/schatterjee(31961) firewall# pfctl -a authpf/cyoub(27921) -s rules pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.0.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.4.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.8.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.12.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.20.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.20.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.80.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.48.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.4.0/22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.28.0/22 flags S/SA keep state -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/authpf-allows-only-one-user-from-the-same-source-ip--kicks-off-previous-user-tf3978999.html#a11295667 Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: authpf allows only one user from the same source ip; kicks off previous user
Nope. That's how it is supposed to work.
The point of authpf is for the user to say this IP
is me - if that IP could perhaps not be him, well, this
is not an application for authpf. I.E. if your users
are coming in from a NAT, you should rethink what you
are doing.
-Bob
* Chris Youb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-25 15:15]:
When multiple users with the same source IP want access through the firewall
authpf grants access to the newly authenticating user and kicks off the
previous user. Is there a way to turn off this behaviour so both users
maintain authpf tables?
Works:
1a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - maintains logon
1b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - logs on
Doesn't Work:
2a. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - gets kicked off
2b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - authpf - logs on
Real-life example:
Step #1 xuser authenticates from IP_1; xuser has access to firewall
firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v
authpf
authpf/bfisher(25933)
authpf/xuser(1308)
authpf/rarthur(15647)
authpf/schatterjee(31961)
Step #2 cyoub authenticates from IP_2; both xuser and cyoub have access to
firewall
firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v
authpf
authpf/bfisher(25933)
authpf/cyoub(2104)
authpf/xuser(1308)
authpf/rarthur(15647)
authpf/schatterjee(31961)
Step #3 cyoub authenticates from IP_1; ONLY cyoub has access to firewall as
he was the last to login. xuser is kicked off???
firewall# pfctl -s Anchors -v
authpf
authpf/bfisher(25933)
authpf/cyoub(27921)
authpf/rarthur(15647)
authpf/schatterjee(31961)
firewall# pfctl -a authpf/cyoub(27921) -s rules
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.0.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.4.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.8.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.12.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.20.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.20.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.80.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.48.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.4.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
pass in quick on bge0 inet from 10.0.1.47 to 172.16.28.0/22 flags S/SA keep
state
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Re: RTHREADS and librthread
On 6/25/07, Vortechz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are people using/testing/developing rthreads out there who can explain to me why syscall getthrid fails with SIGSYS on my system, 4.1-release. it looks like you've done everything right. SIGSYS means the kernel doesn't support the syscall, so you should double check that.
Re: cannot enable executable stack...
On 6/25/07, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have successfully ported the relevant material from the NetBSD patches thanks, good work.
Re: authpf allows only one user from the same source ip; kicks off previous user
Bob Beck-2 wrote: The point of authpf is for the user to say this IP is me - if that IP could perhaps not be him, well, this is not an application for authpf. I.E. if your users are coming in from a NAT, you should rethink what you are doing. -Bob I fully understand your reasoning. Under normal circumstances users authenticate from their desktop machines (which is a unique IP) and therefore not a problem. However, sometimes they are VNC'd into servers (more CPU power) and want to access resources behind the internal 'firewall'. This was fine until we came across multiple VNC sessions on the same server. I realize there would be a tiny loop-hole in that user A would be able to access user B's authenticated resources and vice-versa but that was a reasonable risk (these are all internal users). The only other option for users sharing resources on a single server was to give each VNC session a unique IP. And the only way I know how to do that is via virtualization. If there was one VNC session per user domain this wouldn't be a problem. However, that is bit of work. In short, I know the consequences of authenticating multiple users from the same IP... is there an easy way to turn off this authpf feature? ;) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/authpf-allows-only-one-user-from-the-same-source-ip--kicks-off-previous-user-tf3978999.html#a11297071 Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: authpf allows only one user from the same source ip; kicks off previous user
In short, I know the consequences of authenticating multiple users from the same IP... is there an easy way to turn off this authpf feature? ;) You still don't understand. It's not a feature. It is a requirement. If you don't like it, then you can't provide any of the functional parts that authpf provides. It's a requirement for rule addition and rule deletion to KNOW where a session is from. Otherwise, you might as well just use pf itself, without any logging in, because your authpf logins really mean nothing.
Re: Boot by USB thumb for installation
This is related and may be of interest to some ppl. I have posted some modifications to the excellent LiveCD instructions by Andreas Bihlmaier to create a Live USB (if you have a USB key thingie and you want to save space) http://openbsd-wiki.org/index.php?title=LiveUSB G On 6/24/07, Alex Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Because the laptop doesn't have a CD-ROM. can the OpenBSD boot by the USB thumb for installation? (the BIOS supported boot by USB hard disk). thanks!
Re: authpf allows only one user from the same source ip; kicks off previous user
I fully understand your reasoning. Under normal circumstances users authenticate from their desktop machines (which is a unique IP) and therefore not a problem. However, sometimes they are VNC'd into servers (more CPU power) and want to access resources behind the internal 'firewall'. This was fine until we came across multiple VNC sessions on the same server. I realize there would be a tiny loop-hole in that user A would be able to access user B's authenticated resources and vice-versa but that was a reasonable risk (these are all internal users). The only other option for users sharing resources on a single server was to give each VNC session a unique IP. And the only way I know how to do that is via virtualization. If there was one VNC session per user domain this wouldn't be a problem. However, that is bit of work. Stop talking about VNC and talk about unix shell accounts and I've been exactly where you are - 15 years ago :) it's the same damn thing. I don't use authpf from shell hosts, or reccomend it's use from them either. In short, I know the consequences of authenticating multiple users from the same IP... is there an easy way to turn off this authpf feature? ;) Nope. and there won't be. it's important. You should just allow your VNC'ed host through the firewall and trust that it has adequate logging and security to deal with user separation.. Can't do that.. hmm.. then authpf is doing *nothing* for you. -Bob
Re: port knocking?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:48:20 -0700, John N. Brahy wrote: I was wondering what the general census on port knocking in the OpenBSD community is. I like the idea of hiding services but I don't like the idea of relying on a piece of code that's not part of the OpenBSD core. I know when it comes down to it, it's only hiding ports and not actually securing anything. I am assuming that it's not practiced in the OpenBSD world because there are no port knocking ports. Anyone not agree with that summation? Me. I'd guess that a better line would be that the reason there are no port knocking ports is because OpenBSD developers think that port knocking is a giant wank. But that's just my guess and, if they do, I'd heartily agree. Rod/ Me...a skeptic? I trust you have proof.
C++ Book
Good Day, My apologies if this question has been asked a million times before. I want to know if there is a good book out there to learn C++ on UNIX/Linux. I have browsed Amazon but almost all the books available there are either Windows based or they have very bad reviews. I have been doing LAN web applications with PHP/Javascript/MySQL/Perl for some time now, but now I need to get C++ under my belt for a particular client. The reason I post here on misc@openbsd.org is because you guys normally give a clear and objective view. (And because you guys are more intelligent :) ). Thank You Danny
nat trouble accessing web
Im having some trouble accessing certain sites from my laptop going
through a obsd router doing nat
I have 2 tested configurations
Laptop---Cisco1721[doing nat]---internet msn.com
and
Laptop---Cisco1721--(gre0)Openbsd[doing nat]---internet msn.com
in the first setup, i have a local network behind a cisco1721, the
cisco does nat, and all works well
in the second setup, i have an internal network that spans via gre
from the cisco to an Openbsd router in colo which does the nat, this
is not working for me at all, when i try to go to msn.com, my browser
just sits there, i have tried this from 1 other computer as well
OpenBSD 4.0 GENERIC.MP#936 i386
# cat /etc/pf.conf.test
# Macros
# Tables
# Options
# Traffic Normalization(scrub)
# Queueing
# Translation(nat-binat-rdr)
# Packet Filtering
ext_if=tl0
tun_if=gre0
int_ip={ 10/8 192.168/16 }
natpool_ip=208.179.68.11
local_ip={ 10/8 192.168/16 208.179.68.8/29 208.179.25/24 }
set optimization high-latency
no nat on $ext_if from $local_ip to $local_ip
nat on $ext_if from $int_ip to any - $natpool_ip
pass in all
pass out all
im using ospfd to route over the gre
with either situation, i can get good name resolution, and i can
telnet to the msn server on 0 and issue a get request successfully i
can get to almost any other website in either config, google, yahoo,
etc, there are only a few i cant get to
if there is any other info requested, im happy to provide
thank you
lawrence
Re: RTHREADS and librthread
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Vortechz wrote: I hope there are people using/testing/developing rthreads out there who can explain to me why syscall getthrid fails with SIGSYS on my system, 4.1-release. 1. I have RTHREADS defined in my kernel. I have checked that the rthread code is included at compile time, and I also tried this: $ grep getthrid /bsd Binary file /bsd matches 2. The code I'm trying to run: http://www.nabble.com/file/p11287569/rthread.tar rthread.tar It may be extremely stupid, but it compiles... 3. I compiled and installed librthread, and copied librthread.so.1.0 in place of libpthread.so.7.0 My program is linked against libpthread: $ ldd rthtest rthtest: StartEnd Type Open Ref GrpRef Name exe 10 0 rthtest 0bd7c000 2bd85000 rlib 01 0 /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 0cde 2ce14000 rlib 01 0 /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 00466000 00466000 rtld 01 0 /usr/libexec/ld.so 4. Output and info: $ ./rthtest Bad system call (core dumped) $ gdb ./rthtest rthtest.core GNU gdb 6.3 [...GPL...] Core was generated by `rthtest'. Program terminated with signal 12, Bad system call. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 Symbols already loaded for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.7.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3...done.Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/libexec/ld.so #0 0x02a846a1 in getthrid () from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 (gdb) bt #0 0x02a846a1 in getthrid () from /usr/lib/libc.so.40.3 #1 0x1c0006bb in funkythread (data=0x3c11) at rthreadtest.c:11 #2 0x0df40fcb in _thread_start () at /usr/src/lib/libpthread/uthread/uthread_create.c:244 #3 0x001f in ?? () #4 0x in ?? () Did I do something extremely wrong when I tried to switch to rthreads? Do I need to recompile lots of things? No, you do not need to recompile lots of things (no userland changes are needed). I suspect you did not run make clean or something like that before builing bsd. After ading option RTHREADS, you should run config, and then make clean, make depend and make in the kernel's compile dir. -Otto Don't point me to using the regular libpthread, I have good reason to try rthreads. Alsodon't use this post to start a troll-inducing thread about performance, scalability and/or personal opinions about threads and their usage. Reply with useful information or shut up. // Vortechz -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RTHREADS-and-librthread-tf3976489.html#a11287569 Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
