boot install cd on pentium mmx
Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
as you said, it's an old machine. possibly the bios doesn't like the boot cd format (non-emulation). luckily, there are these wonderful floppy images you can use. your cd burning program should allow you to build a bootable cd in El Torito, or floppy emulation format - you might have better luck with that. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
Chris Kuethe wrote: as you said, it's an old machine. possibly the bios doesn't like the boot cd format (non-emulation). luckily, there are these wonderful floppy images you can use. your cd burning program should allow you to build a bootable cd in El Torito, or floppy emulation format - you might have better luck with that. On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] I recommend that you use the smart boot manager. You boot from the floppy, then choose the cd. I used to install on a mmx machine too, but the bios wouldn't boot a cd. So i used it. Get it on: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/download.html My regards, -- Giancarlo Razzolini http://lock.razzolini.adm.br Linux User 172199 Red Hat Certified Engineer no:804006389722501 Verify:https://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/current/ Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002 OpenBSD Stable Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Herom 4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842 6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85
Re: broken dependencies ?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:35:32AM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote: Hello all, Back in time I switched from -release to -current The date of the snapshot is 19-June And here is the surprise: a lot of unexpected errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't resolve lib Of course ekiga is highly dependent of gnome stuff, so you get a lot of install. First errors are encountered on cairo and pongo stuff, related to gnome. I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am I doing something wrong ? install the X sets. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
4.3 transfered to new disk: floating point exceptions
Hi all, I am running 4.3 on an ALIX board, with filesystems laid out as Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 120M 49.1M 64.5M43%/ /dev/sd0a 3.9G3.1G623M84%/usr /dev/sd0d 1005M 28.0K955M 0%/tmp /dev/sd0e 126M 81.6M 37.8M68%/var /dev/sd0f 126M 14.1M105M12%/var/log /dev/sd0g 251M5.5M233M 2%/var/mail /dev/sd0h 251M119M119M50%/var/mysql /dev/sd0i 9.8G4.3G5.1G46%/var/www /dev/sd0j 19.7G 16.5G2.2G88%/home /dev/sd0k 37.9G 21.1G 14.9G59%/backup The wd0 is a CF card, holding the root filesystem. The sd0 is a USB disk, holding everything else. Now I got me a bigger disk, and I want to transfer everything that sd0 holds to this new disk, leaving wd0 as the root. (The reason I don't simply transfer only /home to the new disk is that the disk is powered via USB, and having two such disks in this ALIX board requires external power, which I want to avoid. One disk is fine.) What I did is reboot into single with the both disks plugged in, the new one recognized as sd1; fdisk and disklabel on sd1, replicating what sd0 has, except for bigger /home; then dump all filesystems into /backup as -rw--- 1 root wheel 17684930560 Jun 21 23:19 dump.home -rw--- 1 root wheel 52029440 Jun 21 21:11 dump.root -rw--- 1 root wheel 91412480 Jun 21 21:12 dump.var -rw--- 1 root wheel 14581760 Jun 21 21:12 dump.var.log -rw--- 1 root wheel 5806080 Jun 21 21:12 dump.var.mail -rw--- 1 root wheel124487680 Jun 21 21:13 dump.var.mysql -rw--- 1 root wheel 4570511360 Jun 21 21:38 dump.var.www and then the obligatory newfs on /dev/sd1X, cd into it, and restore. Everything went fine. Then I rebooted with only the new disk plugged in, which gets recognized fine as sd0 (now), the system boots ok, and I get log in. BUT every command now gives floating point exception (core dumped) Any ideas? Is there something else I need to do? Please note that the system does not boot from the new disk. Thanks Jan
Re: broken dependencies ?
Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote: Hello all, Back in time I switched from -release to -current, but I'm installing from snapshots. I saw the announce about uvideo stuff and I am very interested about this that's why I installed the most recent snapshot for testing. The date of the snapshot is 19-June, I also proceeded to install some packages to test the video camera. One package people speak about is ekiga. And here is the surprise: a lot of unexpected errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't resolve lib Of course ekiga is highly dependent of gnome stuff, so you get a lot of install. First errors are encountered on cairo and pongo stuff, related to gnome. I tried to install gnome-session all together, but the errors are present. Snapshots of packages in my understanding are provided for convenience and are not well synchronized. If you are using a snapshot I would stick with ports. There is no guaranties that even than everything will work perfect but it might like in my case:-) I would not expect at this point for Ekiga to recognize that you have a USB camera even if your camera is supported by uvideo driver. I tried to test 2 very cheap USB cameras that I have. They are according to some documents are UVC devices which is the only type of USB cameras that OpenBSD is supporting. They were not recognized by kernel but I was not to optimistic anyway. Unless you camera is listed http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ I would not expect too much. You can also look for Windows Vista complaint cameras because it looks like those are UVC complaint. To be honest with you I didn't particularly like the tone of your message and I am not even developer. If you are testing something be patient and be ready for failures. If you just want things to work stick with 4.3 release which is well tested. If you need VoIP with video your best bet is Linux. As far as I know Ekiga with video can work on FreeBSD if you have Philips chip-set camera. Even then you need to make some custom patches. I personally tested Ekiga and Skype (which is not a SIP phone) with video on Ubuntu, CentOS, and OpenSUSE and things were working as expected. Kind Regards, Predrag Don't bother to tell about relation from kernel and glibc , I waited for the packages to be close to the kernel compilation date. IT should work. I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work. I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am I doing something wrong ? The other way will be to use anonymous cvs and compile everything from scratch, but I'm not sure about this. Is the snapshot a reliable stuff or not ? Thanks
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
On Sunday 22 June 2008 02:39:02 Gabri Mate wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] I believe there was a known problem with the stock 4.3 CD and really old machines, and I think it got fixed, which of course doesn't help you. I'd create a boot floppy, and do an FTP install. --STeve Andre'
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
On 22/06/2008, at 6:51 PM, STeve Andre' wrote: On Sunday 22 June 2008 02:39:02 Gabri Mate wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp- signature] I believe there was a known problem with the stock 4.3 CD and really old machines, and I think it got fixed, which of course doesn't help you. I'd create a boot floppy, and do an FTP install. --STeve Andre' Wasn't that 4.2? From http://www.openbsd.org/errata42.html 003: CD BOOT FAILURE ON OLDER COMPUTERS : October 30, 2007 i386 only Some older BIOSes are unable to boot CD1 (ie. the commercial release sold by the project, not the CD images available on the net). A workaround using CD2 (amd64 architecture) is as follows. (An amd64 machine is NOT required for this to work.) [etc.] (This does not help the OP, either ...)
Re: simple PF question
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: ... Hm. Might actually be a good idea to expose learners to tcpdump a tad earlier. I used PF on OpenBSD for a small polytechnic course with the help of Peter's book. For most it was a first introduction to any of these tools or supporting tools or hands-on computing. As much as possible, I encouraged people to get comfortable looking for man pages, howtos, web forums and mailing list archives. Below is the base checklist for laboratory exercises from the 7-week course. It's so short because, among other things, there was no access to the laboratory outside of class hours. :( I placed tcpdump near the end, because familiarity with PF needs to be established first. But it not at the very end in order to still have time for repetition. Nearly everyone got that far, a few got to the queues and one got to the round-robin. There were supplemental exercises to keep those with experience learning while others were working on the main exercises. Regards, -Lars [note, 1b/s is not possible, turns out that 6kb/s is the slowest] Install OpenBSD 4.2 b!. Install pftop b! and nmap b! . Use of editor b!, pfctl b! and working from copy of /etc/pf.conf b! (not /etc/pf.conf itself) Create a host-based packet filter. Allow incoming SSH b! , HTTP b! and HTTPS b! and some ICMP (0,3,4,8,11,30) b! See pp 7 - 16, and p 29 Allow incoming SSH, HTTP and HTTPS and some ICMP (0,3,4,8,11,30) Use a table b! and state-tracking options to limit or block b! hosts that try to connect to frequently or too many times concurrently to SSH. See pp 67 - 71 (excluding 'expiretable') Use pftop b! to track connections to your machine. Currently you have HTTP and SSH available. Show me one SSH b! connection and one HTTP or HTTPS b! connection. See pp 115 - 116 and the manpage printed last week. Use pflog b! and tcpdump b! to track some connections to your machine. Show me one SSH b! connection and one HTTP or HTTPS b! connection. See pp 107 - 115 Use the overload tables from the second host-based exercise, and class-based queuing (cbq) b!. Rather than blocking overloads, send them to a 1 b/s queue. b! See pp 87 b 97 Arrange that one interface on a multi-homed machine connects to the Internet and distributes b! incoming connections to a 'pool' of web services, using rdr. Choose either 'round-robin' or 'random' assignment. See pp 50 - 52 === supplemental activities If and only if you have already finished your first packet filter, then try turning on HTTPS b! You will need to create a self-signed (aka root) certificate for the web server as well as create one virtual host. If and only if you have already finished HTTPS, then you may try installing and using Xfce b! Install pfstat b! and create a graph b! based on traffic to or from your machine. (pp 115-118) Show that you have lab notes b!
Re: 4.3 transfered to new disk: floating point exceptions
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:57:00AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: ...and then the obligatory newfs on /dev/sd1X, cd into it, and restore. Everything went fine. Then I rebooted with only the new disk plugged in, which gets recognized fine as sd0 (now), the system boots ok, and I get log in. BUT every command now gives floating point exception (core dumped) Any ideas? Is there something else I need to do? Please note that the system does not boot from the new disk. Perhaps you neglected to write MBR bootcode? (fdisk -u) Your description does not say you installed the 1st stage bootloader. This is a *required* step. See installboot(8).
Re: broken dependencies ?
2008/6/22 Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To be honest with you I didn't particularly like the tone of your message and I am not even developer. Let's see... I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work. I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am I doing something wrong ? What tone are you talking about? /juan
Re: broken dependencies ?
On 2008-06-22, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in time I switched from -release to -current, but I'm installing from snapshots. I saw the announce about uvideo stuff and I am very interested about this that's why I installed the most recent snapshot for testing. The date of the snapshot is 19-June, I also proceeded to install some packages to test the video camera. One package people speak about is ekiga. And here is the surprise: a lot of unexpected errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't resolve lib Don't bother to tell about relation from kernel and glibc , I waited for the packages to be close to the kernel compilation date. IT should work. I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work. You're new to -current, then... If you can't deal with this yourself in some way or other, you need to wait for new snapshot packages to be built. Packages don't appear instantly, there is always a time after any library bump in base or X where the snapshot packages need an older libSomething.so file. If you aren't tracking -current frequently enough to have the old file in the correct arch on some system or other, you get to either build from ports, or wait for new snaps. I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn about redirection in the shell...
Re: broken dependencies ?
Hi! On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:08:39PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-06-22, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn about redirection in the shell... Redirection is cool. E.g. make build 21 | tee make.out (if you want to watch it live too, however you can do that too by tail -f on the output file). or make build make.out 21 Assuming a bourne shell (or ksh or bash, i.e. anything of the bourne-like family). In the csh family tree that'd be make build | tee make.out or make build make.out Kind regards, Hannah.
Re: broken dependencies ?
Hi! On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:08:39PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: [...] If you're using any unix-like system, you should definitely learn about redirection in the shell... In my last post, I got so distracted about redirection, but another point: script(1) can also be useful more often than not. Kind regards, Hannah.
Re: 4.3 transfered to new disk: floating point exceptions
On 2008-06-22, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you neglected to write MBR bootcode? (fdisk -u) this isn't needed here... On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:57:00AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: Please note that the system does not boot from the new disk. compare files on the two USB disks and check they copied correctly. if they were mangled, you can fix system files by untarring from fresh sets, but you also need to look at /home etc and check your own files are ok.
Re: 4.3 transfered to new disk: floating point exceptions
Hm ... compare files on the two USB disks and check they copied correctly. if they were mangled, you can fix system files by untarring from fresh sets, but you also need to look at /home etc and check your own files are ok. I did the same thing again, exactly. Really. Now everything works. As usually on obsd. So I am left with the question what went wrong the first time ... jan
Re: 4.3 transfered to new disk: floating point exceptions
On Jun 22 06:22:35, Josh Grosse wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:57:00AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: ...and then the obligatory newfs on /dev/sd1X, cd into it, and restore. Everything went fine. Then I rebooted with only the new disk plugged in, which gets recognized fine as sd0 (now), the system boots ok, and I get log in. BUT every command now gives floating point exception (core dumped) Any ideas? Is there something else I need to do? Please note that the system does not boot from ^^ the new disk. Perhaps you neglected to write MBR bootcode? (fdisk -u) So I shouldn't need to do this, right?
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
Gabri Mate [Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 08:39:02AM +0200]: i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. I've had the same problems on my old Pentium machine. Did you try cdemu43.iso? It's what works for me. Regards, Dominik -- Dominik Meister My public GnuPG key is available at http://www.meisternet.ch/gpg.txt [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
Booting problem, trace and ps output included this time
Ok, I had windows installed then I installed openbsd, leaving the windows partition active.B I used bootpart to add openbsd to boot.ini in windows.B I had never booted into openbsd until after using bootpart, but when I did it messes up I guess.B Alright so its running and all the hardware stuff is going across the screen with a blue background.B Then it says: RUN AT LEAST trace AND ps AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!B DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING WITHOUT INCLUDING THIS! so I run trace, then ps.B Sorry I don't have actually images of the output, but I tried writing it down and taking pictures as suggested.B Here are the outputs. Debugger( ) at Debugger+0x5 panic( ) at panic+0x12a _ _assert( ) at _ _assert+0x21 ahci_port_intr( ) at ahci_port_intr+0x218 ahci_poll( ) at ahci_poll+0x4d ahci_ata_cmd( ) at ahci_ata_cmd+0x9f ata_exec( ) at ata_exec+0x19 scsi_execute_xs( ) at scsi_execute_xs+0x6d scsi_scsi_cmd( ) at scsi_scsi_cmd+0xcb scsi_test_unit_ready( ) at scsi_test_unit_ready+0x4d scsi _probedev( ) at scsi_probedev+0x28a scsi_probe_target( ) at scsi_probe_target+0x26 scsi_probe_bus( ) at scsi_probe_bus+0x38 config_attach( ) at config_attach+011b atascsi_attach( ) at atascsi_attach+0xf8 ahci_pci_attach( ) at ahci_pci_attach+0x178 config_attach( ) at config_attach+0x11b pci_probe_device( ) at pci_probe_device+0x20e pci_enumerate_bus( ) at pci_enumerate_bus+0x104 config_attach( ) at config_attach+0x11b mainbus_attach( ) at mainbus_attach+0x14b config_attach( ) at config_at config_attach+0x11b cpu_configure( ) at cpu_configure+0x1c main( ) at main+0x3b2 end trace frame: 0x0, count: -24 ddb debugger( ) at Debugger+0x5 end trace frame: 0x80c18860, count: 0 ddb ps B B B B B PIDB B B B B B PPIDB B B B B PGRPB B B B B B B UIDB B B SB B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B FLAGSB B WAITB B B B B B B B B B B B B COMMAND *B B B B B B B 0B B B B B B B B B B -1B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 0B B B B B B B B B B 0B B B 7B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 0X80200B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B swapper That's it.B It would be an incredible pain to provide you with a dmesg (did I word that right?) without using a serial console.B Also, if I knew how to use a serial console, I wouldn't know how to edit the correct files from my position.B It will just sit there waiting for me to type commands at ddb So what's wrong and what am I sitting at?B __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
Gabri Mate wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] In addition to the other suggestions (which are correct other than the known problem one..that WAS 4.2, not 4.3, and installing a third party boot manager is not ever my recommendation), it is VERY likely that any machine that old has a bad CDROM or a buggy BIOS. If the machine has been running much of the time since it was made, the CDROM has filtered a lot of dust, and the CD Booting of those days was very commonly buggy or limited Either use cdemu43.iso (which sometimes shows OTHER bugs in BIOSs, because it emulates a 2.88M floppy, which some BIOSs don't work, though I've never seen a machine which could boot from CD but couldn't boot from one of the two CDROM images OpenBSD provided...and yes, I tested a LOT of machines when we changed the CDROM boot loader) or a boot floppy, as dirty floppy drives are usually easier/more successfully cleaned. Nick.
Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if it was released as public domain?
Install Business Intelligence software like Pentaho
Hi, All Does anybody have already installed Business Intelligence software like Pentaho on OpenBSD ? Do you have good experiences with other software for reporting, analyzing ... (on OBSD) ? Thanks. Xavier
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
IANAL... On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:43:09AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: | Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... | | If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause | license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if | it was released as public domain? Well .. as the author of a work, you are the copyright holder to it. If you then release it under some permissive license, you basically give up some of the rights that copyright gives you, granting others a license to copy, modify and/or redistribute etc. Using ISC or BSD-like licenses, you indicate that you want to keep some (very basic) but give up most rights. So you want the world to know that *you* want to retain some rights but not who you are ? That does not compute. Who wants to retain those rights exactly ? Seems to me like a legal can of worms you do not want to open. In answer to your question, my guess would be no. I would guess that effectively you've given up no rights whatsoever and that the license is void if it lists an alias or 'anonymous' as the creator of the work. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the copyright holder. Comrade RIngo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL... On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:43:09AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: | Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... | | If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause | license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if | it was released as public domain? Well .. as the author of a work, you are the copyright holder to it. If you then release it under some permissive license, you basically give up some of the rights that copyright gives you, granting others a license to copy, modify and/or redistribute etc. Using ISC or BSD-like licenses, you indicate that you want to keep some (very basic) but give up most rights. So you want the world to know that *you* want to retain some rights but not who you are ? That does not compute. Who wants to retain those rights exactly ? Seems to me like a legal can of worms you do not want to open. In answer to your question, my guess would be no. I would guess that effectively you've given up no rights whatsoever and that the license is void if it lists an alias or 'anonymous' as the creator of the work. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:18:33PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | That wouldn't work because the original author would be able to prove | he was the owner of the copyright. And that isn't possible in the hypothetical situation posted by the OP ? Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain | since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the | copyright holder. | Comrade RIngo Kamens Let me just steal some code somewhere, relicense it and release it as 'anonymous'. *poof* .. it's public domain because you can't sue ? That's a bit too easy... Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
That wouldn't work because the original author would be able to prove he was the owner of the copyright. Comrade RIngo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain | since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the | copyright holder. | Comrade RIngo Kamens Let me just steal some code somewhere, relicense it and release it as 'anonymous'. *poof* .. it's public domain because you can't sue ? That's a bit too easy... Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
On 6/22/08, Ringo Kamens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the copyright holder. He absolutely can sue. He says I don't know who this anonymous person is, but they copied my code. And now the people using that code are screwed.
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
Sorry, I should have been more clear in my statement. What I was saying is that if the original author of the work published it anonymously, he would not be able to sue because he would not be able to prove he was the original author and copyright holder of the work. Comrade Ringo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/22/08, Ringo Kamens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the copyright holder. He absolutely can sue. He says I don't know who this anonymous person is, but they copied my code. And now the people using that code are screwed.
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:18:51PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | Sorry, I should have been more clear in my statement. What I was | saying is that if the original author of the work published it | anonymously, he would not be able to sue because he would not be able | to prove he was the original author and copyright holder of the work. Well .. why not ? He can later say : I was this anonymous guy, here is $PROOF, you are in violation of my license, now pay me $$$. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?
Said individual would have to be able to prove he originally made the content available. I guess this could theoretically be possible ie if server logs verify it or something along those lines. Things to consider: 1. If said individual posted code anonymously, wouldn't that indicate they would like to remain anonymous? I think the court would also question why he posted the code anonymously and his proof would certainly come under some scrutiny. Comrade Ringo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:18:51PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | Sorry, I should have been more clear in my statement. What I was | saying is that if the original author of the work published it | anonymously, he would not be able to sue because he would not be able | to prove he was the original author and copyright holder of the work. Well .. why not ? He can later say : I was this anonymous guy, here is $PROOF, you are in violation of my license, now pay me $$$. Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: boot install cd on pentium mmx
Thanks for all your help! I've tried to make an el torito cd, tried the cdemu image, without luck. Finally i've found a floppy disk ( and old motherboard's driver disk ), so i could make a bootable floppy and installed OBSD from an ftp. I'm writing these lines behind my OBSD gateway. I really like this OS, its amazing. Too bad that my boss prefers Linux over BSD. -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 08:39 Sun 22 Jun , Gabri Mate wrote: Dear List, i would like to install OpenBSD 4.3 on an old Pentium MMX machine. The BIOS can boot off from a cd, but it simply refuses to boot the OBSD installation media. It checks the cd, waits a few seconds, then just goes on. Any suggestions? -- Gabri Mate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
How do I setup OpenBSD to login automatically and lauch minicom?
Hello I am trying to figure out how to modify the boot process to automatically spawn a minicom session. (I know I have many other options for what I am trying to do, but I thaught this would be a good way to learn someghing about OpenBSD.) Basically, I have an old laptop, and (partially as a way to learn something about OpenBSD) I want to set it up as a serial console to use with other systems. Thus, I am not at all concerned about the security of the login process (this laptop, once configured) will not connect to a network, and will have (pretty much) all services disabled. I was also going to convert the filesystems to read-only, so, a hard shutdown won't disrupt the filesystems. In any case, here is my question(s). I have been reading the man pages, and (in summary) I see that that boot loads the kernel (bsd), pass control to init which parses through rc, and then spawns the process getty (as defined by ttys). This results in the login prompt, which, when a username is entered, calls login which authenticates (using login_passwd), and then sets several enviormental variables, before spawning a shell. I think this is right? So, I think the place for me to modify this process is by changing the variable to execute getty in /etc/ttys to instead launch minicom? I tried this, but (i guess, obviously) it did not work. I assume that I have to set enviormental variables before minicom is started? Do I need getty and login to spawn a shell before starting minicom? If I need to go through getty and login, is there a way to automatically login without password (or any other authentication)? Would a simple script that sets the enviornemt variables and runs minicom work? I noticed a statement in one of the entries on this mailing list that indicated there was a way to do something like this (login automatically / start a program automatically on login), and that this information was in the FAQ's, however, I can't seem to find it. Any help would be really appreciated. thanks
