Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread David Schulz
Jeez i cant believe all this goes on on misc@ , truth be told the best would have been to setup a 2nd trustworthy distributor in Europe, and silently move over the European Order Sites control to the new Guy. Then, or at the same time, convince Wim in private to make a small announcement that he wo

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-30 Thread David Schulz
For me, i cant even estimate the time and effort that goes into all the related work and issues for OpenBSD, and thus am more than thankful. OpenBSD sits in every important Corner for two Businesses i am involved in, I could not live without it. I purchase each CD that comes out, have all the Poste

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-30 Thread Henning Brauer
* Michael Grigoni [2009-03-31 04:38]: > A modular approach to an O/S would be welcome; say a major version every five > years, with an a la carte menu of features, which are subject to versioning > and upgrade over that period, and maintenance of a stable set of APIs, ABIs > and configuration file

smtpd authentication?

2009-03-30 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Does the recently linked in smtpd support things like certificate based authentication for relay? I am wondering if I can test it with one of my mail servers, but that server requires authenticating who can send mail from it, where the current authentication mechanism is tls certificates. --

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Andres Genovez
2009/3/27 Christiano Farina Haesbaert > 2009/3/27 Theo de Raadt > > > ... > > > > ... and how well does that work. A request for money to buy 3 new > > infrastructure machines gathered more donation money in 1 week > > ... than all the other donations for the previous 6 months. I often > > won

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I also add my thanks to the discussion. I do have a fundamental question > to pose however. It seems that opensource culture for large projects > is driven by featurism and the need to make massive changes incorporated > into frequent releases. > I come from a background of very long-term > sta

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-30 Thread Michael Grigoni
William Chivers wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you Theo and your team of developers for OpenBSD. > > Some people responding to the "European Orders" thread seem to have lost > sight of what OpenBSD is and who develops it. I am a bit of a newbie here > (although I have been using computers in my career

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > If you want to speculate do it privately. I know at least Wim is > > > willing to answer questions. A public mailinglist is the last place > > > you should be speculating about serious acusations of this magnitude. > > > > > > Please stop

Re: European orders - Thank you Theo and your team, some of us appreciate you!

2009-03-30 Thread William Chivers
Hello, Thank you Theo and your team of developers for OpenBSD. Some people responding to the "European Orders" thread seem to have lost sight of what OpenBSD is and who develops it. I am a bit of a newbie here (although I have been using computers in my career since 1972), but it seems to me th

Re: Interactions between PF and enc0

2009-03-30 Thread David Gwynne
if you're using ipsec for tunnel mode vpns i would strongly recommend you build the tunnels using gif(4) and then protecting them with ipsec in transport mode. having the traffic move via the gif tunnel allows more natural filtering with pf and easier to understand interactions with the r

Re: Interactions between PF and enc0

2009-03-30 Thread Juan Miscaro
2008/10/31 Felipe Alfaro Solana : > Hi misc, > > I'm experiencing interaction problems between PF and the enc0 > interface. I've been reading several OpenBSD manual pages about how > IPSec traffic filtering is supposed to work, but so far I'm unable to > get IPSec filtering working for me. > > I ha

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Diana Eichert
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Richard Ben Aleya wrote: SNIP We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who does not respect European citizens. Now we know the man you are. SNIP Richard Wow, that is insulting, calling Theo an "American guy". Just for that I'm going to blame al

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Gordon Grieder
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 01:37:29AM +0200, Richard Ben Aleya wrote: > Theo, [snip] > In this affair *until you do not accept to give us detailed account > reports*, you are in fraud and you are the potential stoler. > And about this suspect company "The Computer Shop of Calgary Ltd.", > your statu

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Richard Ben Aleya wrote: > We do not want to purchase CDs to pay the salary of an American guy who Bitch, please. Now I'm insulted. You think Theo's an American? Fuck you.

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Richard Ben Aleya
Theo, As I requested, you just have to publish all the annual account reports and everything will become clear, still, I do not understand where is the problem with that. This is not difficult, if you don't do it, more and more people will think YOU ARE THE FRAUDER and you will loose in credibili

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > If you want to speculate do it privately. I know at least Wim is > > willing to answer questions. A public mailinglist is the last place > > you should be speculating about serious acusations of this magnitude. > > > > Please stop > > > > Floor > > > > I second this . . . while I love a good

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2009/3/30, Daniel Seuffert : > > Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man > > having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out and having supported the > > project in Europe like nobody else probably? > > If they are as intelligent as I guess, they will not communicate on >

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Floor Terra wrote: > Sorry, this was meant for misc@ > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Floor Terra > Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:01 AM > Subject: Re: European orders > To: SW > > > Probably because a flamewar only makes things worse. Nobody

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Henry Sieff
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dag Richards wrote: > As a rule I generally don't post in response to community discussions as I > am essentially nobody here. This time however I just have to ask > > ...Theo? > > Why on Earth do you keep doing this? > How the hell do you put up with all of this

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/3/30, Daniel Seuffert : > Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man > having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out and having supported the > project in Europe like nobody else probably? If they are as intelligent as I guess, they will not communicate on this list. Mak

European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Floor Terra
Sorry, this was meant for misc@ -- Forwarded message -- From: Floor Terra Date: Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:01 AM Subject: Re: European orders To: SW Probably because a flamewar only makes things worse. Nobody except Theo and Wim can fix this. If you want to speculate do it priva

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man > having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out He's now put forward a document saying that he promoted OpenBSD using project money. That was never authorized. He says he has it in giant piles of T-shirt stock (yet OpenBSD gets abs

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Dag Richards
As a rule I generally don't post in response to community discussions as I am essentially nobody here. This time however I just have to ask ...Theo? Why on Earth do you keep doing this? How the hell do you put up with all of this ... crap? I am sure there are still companies that would pay y

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Daniel Seuffert
Isn't there any OpenBSD guy defending Mr. Wim Vandeputte, a man having promoted OpenBSD year in and year out and having supported the project in Europe like nobody else probably? What a shame. I know Wim personally for many years, I have seen some of his work and I have the deepest respect for h

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> "full value", owed for CD Sales , transfers of undisclosed amounts - > some clear facts would be nice, this sounds like waffle. Watch your words. What you say may have minor effects on whether I keep making release CDs or anything in the future. I don't like your tone, whoever you are, so show

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:25:42PM +0200, Sebastian Rother wrote: > So did you had time to patch the OpenSSL bugs yet? I didn't knew if you really wants an answer to this, but yes, we is currently test an update to 0.9.8k by djm@ if that's what you mean. Stay tuned. Stefan

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread openbsd misc
Damn, this is degenerating into mud slinging bollocks, what with "full value", owed for CD Sales , transfers of undisclosed amounts - some clear facts would be nice, this sounds like waffle. 1. There appear to be no contracts, so Theo and Wim or the bodies they represent or act for, have no writ

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Sebastian Rother
>> The other side seems to have said far more than Theo in far more detail >> >> http://accounting.kd85.com/ > >First I've heard of it! A lack of communication UNBELIEFABLE! And I thought just NetBSD acts like that... How's about the CVS account he claims you deleted... Theo? I am sure you w

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Jean-François SIMON
Hi, First of all I would prefer to awayke disks weekly instead of daily for just the df purpose. I would try to do this, your advises are also welcome if any. Secondly this is because of two principle : 1) it disturbs one who is not away enough not to ear the noise of starting disks 2) they keep s

Re: Tape drive not detected on LSI 20320

2009-03-30 Thread (private) HKS
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, (private) HKS wrote: > OpenBSD 4.4 on a Dell Poweredge 2950. SCSI card is an LSI 20320, tape > drive is Dell Powervault 124T (aka IBM Ultrium-TD3). > > The tape drive shows up in the card's BIOS, but dmesg sees it as a > SCSI device with no drivers: > > # dme

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2009/3/30 Richard Ben Aleya > > Also, could you make a publically available account report which show > of how you manage the money you get from the donations of past years > (various expenses, hardware, events, money used to pay developers, > money used to pay YOURSELF, ...) ? > So basic

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> The other side seems to have said far more than Theo in far more detail > > http://accounting.kd85.com/ First I've heard of it! Network Timeout The server at accounting.kd85.com is taking too long to respond. The requested site did not respond to a connection request and

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> As I made donations (by giving money, by purchasing CDs, t-shirts, ...) > to the OpenBSD project like most of the OpenBSD users, and since I > always recommends to my customers to make donations to the OpenBSD > project instead of just make use of OpenBSD freely. You keep mixing up sales and do

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Theo de Raadt
> There in Europe, there are a lot of OpenBSD users who don't like the > way you handle this conflict. so what are the users going to do? complain at me, so that I stop working on openbsd? is that going to help? Richard, as a user, do you really not know your place? > We don't like how you can

Re: can't boot -current i386

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Nauwelaerts
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:24:00 +0200 Nick Nauwelaerts wrote: > I'm trying to get -current snapshot working on my laptop but thus far > I've had no luck. Whenever I try to boot bsd.rd my system hangs while > still loading the kernel. This hang seems to happen after it loads > pciide but before any w

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Jon Tibble
Artur Grabowski wrote: Richard Ben Aleya writes: Theo, There in Europe, there are a lot of OpenBSD users who don't like the way you handle this conflict. We don't like how you can instantly punish Wim *a honest guy who made a lot of work, efforts and spent a lot of time for the OpenBSD proje

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Richard Ben Aleya
Artur, First, I ask the questions to Theo not to you, only him is able to answer, but as you requested more informations. > Who are you and why do you claim to have insight into this issue? > > If you do have knowledge, why don't you disclose that instead of > making random emotional rants. My

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Rene Maroufi
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 05:10:23PM +0200, Artur Grabowski wrote: > the old distributor proved to fall behind on payments, the other side > hasn't said anything. Please, enlighten us about further details since The other side has said something here: http://accounting.kd85.com/ Cheers Reni -- Ren

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Matthew Weigel
Artur Grabowski wrote: At this moment we know that one side of the conflict said that future European orders will be done through a different distributor because the old distributor proved to fall behind on payments, the other side hasn't said anything. Please, enlighten us about further details

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Artur Grabowski
Richard Ben Aleya writes: > Theo, > > There in Europe, there are a lot of OpenBSD users who don't like the > way you handle this conflict. > > We don't like how you can instantly punish Wim *a honest guy who made > a lot of work, efforts and spent a lot of time for the OpenBSD project* > without

Re: European orders

2009-03-30 Thread Richard Ben Aleya
Theo, There in Europe, there are a lot of OpenBSD users who don't like the way you handle this conflict. We don't like how you can instantly punish Wim *a honest guy who made a lot of work, efforts and spent a lot of time for the OpenBSD project* without asking third party persons to inquiry befo

Re: Installation problems on AMD64

2009-03-30 Thread Josh Grosse
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:06:59 +0200, Tony Berth wrote > Just a quick (non really relevant) question. What is the best tool > to check the integrity of SATA HDs? To check if they have bad > sectors or other problems? I like the smartmontools package, which communicates with SMART electronics on t

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Jan Stary
On Mar 30 13:28:39, Robert wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:12:56 +0200 > Jean-Francois wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Sure it comes from the df made daily. > > > > Please helkp me to change the time of the daily actions, I could not > > find it with man pages of cron, crontab, etc ... > > > > Thanks

can't boot -current i386

2009-03-30 Thread Nick Nauwelaerts
Hello, I'm trying to get -current snapshot working on my laptop but thus far I've had no luck. Whenever I try to boot bsd.rd my system hangs while still loading the kernel. This hang seems to happen after it loads pciide but before any wd drives are detected. I've tried disabling the following in v

Re: Installation problems on AMD64

2009-03-30 Thread Tony Berth
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Thomas Pfaff wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:13:30 +0100 > Tony Berth wrote: > > Dear Group, > > > > when trying to install the current 4.4 from th iso image in a AMD64 > > machine I get following error: > > > > panic: pci_make_tag: bad request > > > > is that du

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-30 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:32:41 +0100 "Chris Harries" wrote: > Thank you for your time. > > This I did find weird, wondering why on this guide, it is setting B > to RAID and not swap...on boot it does say it cannot find swap but > this guide did come recommended... > > It says > > A: 144522 4.2BS

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-30 Thread Michal
Something else that is trouberling me also, other then the face its wd2b and wd1b. When I do raidctl -s raid0 it says Raid0 Components: Component0: failed /dev/wd1b: optimal No spares ... This doesn't seam right to me and bearing in mind, the command I am having trouble with is r

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Harries
Thank you for your time. This I did find weird, wondering why on this guide, it is setting B to RAID and not swap...on boot it does say it cannot find swap but this guide did come recommended... It says A: 144522 4.2BSD (this is the 64MB drive to boot off B: 1953375480 RAID (this is the RAID dat

Re: raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-30 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:43:31 +0100 "Chris Harries" wrote: > START disks > /dev/wd2b # the fake device > /dev/wd1b > The above looks weird. The 'b' partition is typically swap. What do the following commands tell you? $ sudo disklabel -n wd1 $ sudo disklabel -n wd2 -- J.C.

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Robert
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:12:56 +0200 Jean-Francois wrote: > Hi, > > Sure it comes from the df made daily. > > Please helkp me to change the time of the daily actions, I could not > find it with man pages of cron, crontab, etc ... > > Thanks for help. from daily(8): The scripts are all run as

Panic whilst configuring carp/pf

2009-03-30 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, I have been trying a carp setup today and I am consistently getting the following panic: Stopped at Xrecurse_legacy5+0x30: pushl $0 ddb> trace Xrecurse_legacy5() at Xrecurse_legacy5+0x30 --- interrupt --- 0: It doesn't seem to happen at any noticeable (or that I have noticed) key

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Jean-Francois
Hi, Sure it comes from the df made daily. Please helkp me to change the time of the daily actions, I could not find it with man pages of cron, crontab, etc ... Thanks for help. Le lundi 30 mars 2009 C 11:24 +0200, Jean-Francois a C)crit : > Thanks for advise, i'll have a look. > > It happens

Re: shrot abreviation of network in bgpd filter as in pf filter.

2009-03-30 Thread Henning Brauer
* Daniel Ouellet [2009-03-30 05:39]: > Long version > deny from any prefix 10.0.0.0/8 prefixlen >= 8 > Short version > deny from any prefix 10/8 prefixlen >= 8 > Not a huge deal obviously, just wanted to confirmed it or not as being > supported going forward. intended that way and stays. I us

Re: slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Jean-Francois
Thanks for advise, i'll have a look. It happens during night i did'nt notice the exact time. Regards, JF Le lundi 30 mars 2009 C 21:22 +1300, Richard Toohey a C)crit : > On 30/03/2009, at 9:10 PM, Jean-FranC'ois SIMON wrote: > > > Hi All, > > For my actual server, there is a primary SSD drive

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-30 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, Well, I use an ATI card, so it is for the archive ... may be it is of any help for the nvidia users?! 1) See my xorg.conf below, the only line I had to change here to use dual head resolution, is in the screen section, I added: "Virtual 3840 1200" 2) I added this line in my .xinitrc: xran

raidctl -vF component0 raid0

2009-03-30 Thread Chris Harries
List, I am having problems building my 2 x 1 TB mirror RAID in openBSD. When I run this command "raidctl -vF component0 raid0" on the screen it says "quiescence reached" and the system hangs. I can type commands but they do nothing, type top and enter and it just sits there, press ctrl C an

slave data HDD drives waking up without access

2009-03-30 Thread Jean-François SIMON
Hi All, For my actual server, there is a primary SSD drive and secondary standard rotating hard drives. The secondary HDD have enter into sleep of about 1 hour. At times Both secondary HDD wake up for no special reaso. Those drives are both : - mounted to a point - shared by NFS Since I am sure

Re: HP Proliant DL385 slower than CentOS for some web connections (over VPN)

2009-03-30 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello Kamil, On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Kamil Monticolo wrote: > you can bump sysctl recv/sendspace for TCP/IP up to 65535 > what throughtput do you have? > paste output of vmstat here please vmstat -w 1 procsmemory pagediskstraps cpu r b w

Re: Dual-head OpenBSD 4.5 and NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT

2009-03-30 Thread Tobias Sarnowski
Hi Kamil, maybe I missed the point but the option "DualHead" works fine if using the "nv" driver. If I remember correctly it is necessary to have the same resolution on both monitors when working with DualHead. 42 Section "Monitor" 43 #DisplaySize 380 300 # mm 44