Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Ersin Akinci
 But you wrote that you upgraded ports from release to current. Did you
 upgrade your system to current too?

 Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
 have couple of them in PKG_PATH.

Quoth section 15 of the FAQ: Do NOT check out a -current ports tree
and expect it to work on a -release or -stable system. This is one of
the most common errors and you will irritate people when you ask for
help about why nothing seems to work!

D'oh!  Sorry, I misread that originally, and I had thought that it was
saying that we shouldn't mix different branches of ports together, not
different branches of ports and the system.  Indeed, that exactly what
I've done.

My apologies, a classic RTFM.

-Ersin


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Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-10 Thread Leslie Jensen

Nick Holland skrev 2010-11-10 03:02:

On 11/09/10 13:02, Leslie Jensen wrote:



On 2010-11-09 18:00, Nick Holland wrote:

On 11/09/10 10:37, Leslie Jensen wrote:
...

Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64
installation CD.

...

Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp
http or done.

I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do
I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on
this machine in the future.


booting from the CD is handled by the system BIOS, OpenBSD doesn't need
to know how to access the CD to boot, as it isn't running at this point.
Installing from the CD requires that OpenBSD be able to access the disk.

It seems, for unknown reasons, there's something odd about your
computer, and OpenBSD is not recognizing the CDROM.

Install via network as you propose, then post the dmesg output,
hopefully we can figure out where your CDROM is hiding and why it won't
come out and play. As the CD and the disk system share the same
interface, I wonder if your disk is going to be recognized at this point.

Nick.



This is what I've done! Boot from USB stick with hard drive present,
both i386 and amd64.

Issued command dmesg; sysctl hw.sensors  dmesg_file_name.txt

I noticed that the dmesg info did not make it to the file so I also did

dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt

After that I booted FreeBSD and did

dmesg  dmesg_file_name.txt

The files are attached, if you need more info, let me know.

Thanks

/Leslie


Interesting.  No disks at all, hard or optical.

I think the clue might be here:
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82081HBM RAID rev 0x03: DMA, channel 
0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI
pciide0: using apic 2 int 19 (irq 10) for native-PCI interrupt

I'm wondering if this little bit might be the issue:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade48.html#ahci-raid

# ahci(4) no longer attaches to RAID-mode disks:
To avoid risk of corrupting metadata on certain Intel RAID
devices, ahci(4) no longer attaches to the PCI device IDs
used by these controllers when set to RAID mode. If your
SATA disk is attached to a ahci(4) contoller in RAID mode,
it will vanish as part of the upgrade and require resetting
the BIOS controller type to AHCI to get it back.

Does your BIOS, by any chance, have a RAID mode option?  Seems
kinda odd for a laptop, but I'm short of other ideas, and that
sure sounds like it fits.  This is new for 4.8, you might want
to try booting a 4.7 bsd.rd kernel and see if that sees your
disks.

Nick.


I have put a picture of the BIOS settings here:

http://www.eskk.nu/gallery/?album=/bios/picture=IMAG0115.jpgfullsize=0

Please advise me on what you think would be the best setting. Keeping in 
mind that I do not want to corrupt data on the hard drive.


Thanks

/Leslie



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread James Hartley
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Ersin Akinci ersin.aki...@gmail.comwrote:

 Do the packages in current
 normally find themselves in the next release?


Yes.



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Ersin Akinci ersin.aki...@gmail.com wrote:
 But you wrote that you upgraded ports from release to current. Did you
 upgrade your system to current too?

 Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
 have couple of them in PKG_PATH.

 Quoth section 15 of the FAQ: Do NOT check out a -current ports tree
 and expect it to work on a -release or -stable system. This is one of
 the most common errors and you will irritate people when you ask for
 help about why nothing seems to work!

 D'oh! B Sorry, I misread that originally, and I had thought that it was
 saying that we shouldn't mix different branches of ports together, not
 different branches of ports and the system. B Indeed, that exactly what
 I've done.

 My apologies, a classic RTFM.

You found that so no problem ;-) Now you can do rm -rf /usr/ports and
then unpack ports.tar.gz for 4.8 release again


 -Ersin


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Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-10 Thread Martin Toft
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 08:24:29AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 http://www.eskk.nu/gallery/?album=/bios/picture=IMAG0115.jpgfullsize=0

 Please advise me on what you think would be the best setting. Keeping in  
 mind that I do not want to corrupt data on the hard drive.

A year ago I used a Dell E6400 for work, and it seems like your E6500
has the same hard drive options. As far as I remember, I was able to
install OpenBSD 4.7 (-ish, a snapshot at the time) on its hard drive
when it was set to use AHCI. However, in AHCI-mode the cdrom drive
wasn't found. Changing from IRRT to AHCI and trying a install will
probably corrupt your data.

I gave up running OpenBSD on the laptop, as there was no X Video
Extension support for its NVIDIA graphics... Even a somewhat mighty Core
2 Duo isn't enough for software scaling.

Martin



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
 have couple of them in PKG_PATH.


 By which exact syntax?

It's written in FAQ and in man. Use colon ( : ) for separation of entries.



The Book of PF, second edition

2010-11-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
It seems that every three years or so, I get to spam this list about a
product I'm responsible for, and in fact I hope to make it into a
tradition.

With the syntax changes in 4.7, the book needed an overhaul.  The
result is here, finally, up to date as of 4.8.  I got my author's
copies yesterday, and my initial reactions can be found at

http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2010/11/book-of-pf-2nd-ed-its-here.html

If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post,
you can go directly to the source via at least two routes:  The
OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
(with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page
at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm

As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep
making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting.

All the best,
Peter

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Re: Re-KeyGen Virtual machine from template

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda acam...@verlet.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Keith ke...@scott-land.net wrote:
 I've managed to get OpenBSD working in a virtual machine and have created a
 template to use whenever I need a new OBSD virtual server but I was
 wondering what would need to be done to each machine to make it unique from
 the other machines also produced from the same template !

 Is there a way to re trigger the process that happens the first time a
 OpenBSD machine boots up where the three keys are generated ?

 Thanks
 Keith



 # rm /etc/ssh/ssh*key;
 # halt -p;

 Then make your system image... (the keys will be autogenerated the next time
 the images boot).

 Saludos.



these too:

/etc/isakmpd/private/local.key
/etc/isakmpd/local.pub
/etc/iked/private/local.key
/etc/iked/local.pub
/var/named/etc/rndc.key

and obviously edit the hostname in /etc/myname
and any ip address configuration etc.



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Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-09, Jeremy Chase jeremych...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a
 replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD.

A spare v20z probably costs less than that

 Or does the v20z accept a standard 1U power supply?

There's no such thing



Aggregate multiple xDSL connections

2010-11-10 Thread Cedric Brisseau
Hi all,

I've seen some conversations in the past regarding aggregation of
multiple xDSL connections to a main office in order to benefit from
much larger bandwidth at that office and to have some sort of fault
tolerance. I'm wondering how this could be achieved. To add
complexity, these xDSL connections have different speeds.

I'm thinking of trunking OpenVPN or PPP tun interfaces... but I doubt
that trunk can correctly cope with different interface speeds. And I
don't think that OpenVPN can use an L2 tunneling tun interface.
I've thought of gif+ipsec but trunk wants real Ethernet devices and I
don't know if gif (even as a member of a bridge) will do. Maybe with
some vether magic ?

An other solution might be to use multipath routing to the main
site... But since the links have different speeds... equal-cost
multipath routing won't do.

Finally, maybe using PF route-to ?

Anyway, if you have such stories or insights... I'll be glad to hear them.

Cheers,
cb



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-10 Thread Anders Trobäck
Den Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:21:56 +0100
skrev Martin Toft m...@martintoft.dk:

 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 08:24:29AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote:
  http://www.eskk.nu/gallery/?album=/bios/picture=IMAG0115.jpgfullsize=0
 
  Please advise me on what you think would be the best setting.
  Keeping in mind that I do not want to corrupt data on the hard
  drive.
 
 A year ago I used a Dell E6400 for work, and it seems like your E6500
 has the same hard drive options. As far as I remember, I was able to
 install OpenBSD 4.7 (-ish, a snapshot at the time) on its hard drive
 when it was set to use AHCI. However, in AHCI-mode the cdrom drive
 wasn't found. Changing from IRRT to AHCI and trying a install will
 probably corrupt your data.
 
 I gave up running OpenBSD on the laptop, as there was no X Video
 Extension support for its NVIDIA graphics... Even a somewhat mighty
 Core 2 Duo isn't enough for software scaling.
 
 Martin

I'm running 4.8 on a E6500 and my cd are working just fine but I'm
using the AHCI mode!

If you change i strongly recommends to backup all the data (but you can
skip the Win7 data, you shouldn't use that any way;-))!


Br/Anders



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Ersin Akinci
 You found that so no problem ;-) Now you can do rm -rf /usr/ports and
 then unpack ports.tar.gz for 4.8 release again

I just wish there was some way to get gnash 0.88 on stable...that was
really the only reason I tried to upgrade.  Do the packages in current
normally find themselves in the next release?  I noticed that Gnash
.83p4 is in 4.8 and was released to ports on June 25th, just a few
months before 4.8's release...so maybe we can get the YouTube-y
goodness of .88 in time for 4.9 =D??

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2010-11-10 Thread Tor Houghton
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I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
addresses to a table.

Kind regards,

Tor



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Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-10, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
 have couple of them in PKG_PATH.


 By which exact syntax?



pkg_add(1) gives you the syntax, personally I don't see much advantage
to listing more than one mirror there, if you use releases all mirrors
should have all the files anyway, if you use snapshots you increase
the chance of mismatching packages from several different builds.



Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables

2010-11-10 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 01:45:16PM +0100, Tor Houghton wrote:
 Hello,
 
 May I ask whether or not per user ownership (or permission to update) a
 table is/will be possible?
 
 I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
 addresses to a table.

Privilege separation.

 
 Kind regards,
 
 Tor



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
 Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
 have couple of them in PKG_PATH.


By which exact syntax?



Re: The Book of PF, second edition

2010-11-10 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net
wrote:

 If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post,
 you can go directly to the source via at least two routes:  The
 OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
 (with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page
 at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm

 As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep
 making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting.


Thanks for the book :-) It is really nice

I got it from the OpenBSD website a month back for the new admin
struggling with pf .

--Siju



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
THX to all for insight

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.orgwrote:

 On 2010-11-10, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
  Every time use mirrors for packages, it saves bandwidth and you can
  have couple of them in PKG_PATH.
 
 
  By which exact syntax?
 
 

 pkg_add(1) gives you the syntax, personally I don't see much advantage
 to listing more than one mirror there, if you use releases all mirrors
 should have all the files anyway, if you use snapshots you increase
 the chance of mismatching packages from several different builds.



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Stuart Henderson wrote:


On 2010-11-09, Jeremy Chase jeremych...@gmail.com wrote:

I've looked into v20z's, but was turned off by the cost of a
replacement power supply. A new one is roughly 200 USD.


A spare v20z probably costs less than that


refurbed v20z, US$120 shipped
complete server with 2GB memory and 73GB HD

damn, would make a great VoIP server.



Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
Here is my trusty E6500 that I have used for 2 years now.

OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Nov  6 16:13:55 CDT 2010
r...@e6500.peereboom.us:/usr/src/kernel/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3707031552 (3535MB)
avail mem = 3594448896 (3427MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf6540 (57 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A22 date 05/06/2010
bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude E6500
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET DMAR APIC ASF! MCFG TCPA SLIC SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S4) PCIE(S4) USB1(S0) USB2(S0) USB3(S0) USB4(S0) 
USB5(S0) USB6(S0) EHC2(S0) EHCI(S0) AZAL(S3) RP01(S4) RP02(S4) RP03(S4) 
RP04(S3) RP05(S3) RP06(S5) LID_(S3) PBTN(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz, 2793.46 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz, 2793.00 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG
cpu1: 6MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 2
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCIE)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 11 (RP01)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 12 (RP02)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 13 (RP03)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 14 (RP04)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP05)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 107 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model DELL MP49495 serial 42487 type LION oem 
Samsung SDI
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VID_
acpivideo1 at acpi0: VID_
acpivout0 at acpivideo1: CRT_
acpivout1 at acpivideo1: LCD_
acpivout2 at acpivideo1: DP__
acpivout3 at acpivideo1: DP2_
acpivout4 at acpivideo1: DVI_
acpivout5 at acpivideo1: DVI2
acpivideo2 at acpi0: VID2
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2793 MHz: speeds: 2801, 2800, 2134, 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH9 IGP M AMT rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 
(irq 10), address 00:21:70:c6:16:95
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 20 (irq 
3)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 
11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 
10)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 
10)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801I HD Audio rev 0x03: apic 2 int 
21 (irq 11)
azalia0: codecs: IDT 92HD71B7, Intel/0x2802, using IDT 92HD71B7
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 16 (irq 
0)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 11
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 17 (irq 
0)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 12
iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel WiFi Link 5300 rev 0x00: apic 2 int 17 
(irq 3), MIMO 3T3R, MoW, address 00:21:6a:1c:d4:de
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 18 (irq 
0)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 13
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 19 (irq 
0)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 14
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 20 (irq 
3)
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 
11)
uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 
10)
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 20 (irq 
3)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x93
pci5 at ppb4 bus 3
cbb0 at pci5 dev 1 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xba: apic 2 int 19 
(irq 10)
Ricoh 5C832 Firewire rev 0x04 at pci5 dev 1 

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert

I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
with running 64-bit O/S on the box.


g.day

diana



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Landry Breuil
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Diana Eichert deich...@wrench.com wrote:
 I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
 noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
 if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
 with running 64-bit O/S on the box.

I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts without issues.

Landry



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Diana Eichert

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Landry Breuil wrote:


I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts without issues.

Landry


thanks for the report

I'd forgotten these were basically Newisys systems.
We had several racks full of the Newisys Opteron
servers before they were offically released to the
public.  Used them for work related to Red Storm.

g.day



Re: (Perhaps?) dumb pf question relating to tables

2010-11-10 Thread Thomas Jeunet
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 13:45, Tor Houghton t...@bogus.net wrote:
 Hello,

 May I ask whether or not per user ownership (or permission to update) a
 table is/will be possible?

 I am pondering the best mechanism for a  non-root process to add/remove
 addresses to a table.

 Kind regards,

 Tor


You might be interested in having a look at authpf(8) eventually?



Re: Aggregate multiple xDSL connections

2010-11-10 Thread Jussi Peltola
I have heard of multilink PPPoE, which you'd probably have to tunnel in
a gre / gif tunnel if it's not a private adsl link, lowering the MTU
even further...

I've never tried it, it may not work at all, but it might be usable if
the dsl connection in question is not a very wide wan.



[SOLVED] Re: OpenBSD 4.8 freezes on certain activities

2010-11-10 Thread Michał Koc

Hi All,

migrating from re to em solved the network problem


best regards
m.k.

W dniu 2010-11-03 12:17, MichaE Koc pisze:

Hi All,

I've just upgraded two of my OpenBSD machines to 4.8:

hw.machine=i386
hw.model=Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 
686-class)

hw.product=DG31PR

and

hw.machine=i386
hw.model=Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
hw.product=D510MO

Dmesgs are below.

The problem is that they freeze every time I try to:
- rsync two local filesystems on different physical disks - high disk 
IO - about 30GB
- run nagios with about 900 probes - hight network IO and ndcpy like 
3000 in systat, lots of forks, load average raising to 5 and above


High disk IO freeze occurs about 30 seconds after rsync start and is 
permanent.
High network IO freeze occurs several minutes after nagios start and 
sometimes machines are responsive for limited time. Pkill nagios 
resolves the problem, machine becomes responsive.


In both cases machines behind nat still have internet connectivity.

Local services like ssh or console are unavailable.

Snapshot from 2010-11-02 22:51:00 does not resolve the issue.

The Atom machine freezes much faster than Core2Duo.

any help appreciated

best regards
M.K.



Core2Duo dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #359: Mon Aug 16 09:16:26 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 
686-class) 3.01 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1

real mem  = 3476889600 (3315MB)
avail mem = 3410038784 (3252MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/27/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 
0xe8170 (42 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version PRG3110H.86A.0047.2008.0227.1745 
date 02/27/2008

bios0: Intel Corporation DG31PR
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC HPET MCFG
acpi0: wakeup devices P0P1(S3) PS2K(S3) PS2M(S3) UAR1(S3) P0P2(S4) 
USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) EUSB(S3) MC97(S4) PEX0(S4) 
PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) SLPB(S4) PWRB(S3)

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 333MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 
686-class) 3 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1

ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3)
acpicpu0 at acpi0:, C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0:, C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb400!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 3000 MHz: speeds: 2997, 1998 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82G33 Host rev 0x10
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82G33 PCIE rev 0x10: apic 0 int 
16 (irq 11)

pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82G33 Video rev 0x10
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 0 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 16 (irq 11)

pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 17 (irq 10)

pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
re0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8168 rev 0x01: RTL8168 2 
(0x3800), apic 0 int 17 (irq 10), address 00:1c:c0:4f:f5:1c

rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 23 (irq 5)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 19 (irq 3)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 18 (irq 7)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 16 (irq 11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 0 
int 23 (irq 5)

usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
em0 at pci4 dev 5 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB) rev 0x01: 
apic 0 int 20 (irq 4), address 00:02:a5:4b:9e:36
em1 at pci4 dev 5 function 1 Intel PRO/1000MT (82546EB) rev 0x01: 
apic 0 int 21 (irq 11), address 00:02:a5:4b:9e:37
puc0 at pci4 dev 6 function 0 NetMos Nm9835 rev 

Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira
Great discussion...

I have two deal option:
A)
Sun V100 - USD$ 350,00

   - *Type* Sun UltraSPARC IIi 650.0 MHz
   - *Cache Per Processor* 512 KB
   - *Installed Size* 2.0 GB
   - *Hard Drive* 2.0 x 160.0 GB - Standard - EIDE - 7200.0 rpm

B)
Sun v20z - USD$ 260,00

Opteron 2x248
2Gb Ram
1x73Gb SCSI
2xGb-LAN



Thanks again, and sorry for my Sun's lag of knowledgement...

[]'s



On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Diana Eichert deich...@wrench.com wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, Landry Breuil wrote:

  I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts without issues.

 Landry


 thanks for the report

 I'd forgotten these were basically Newisys systems.
 We had several racks full of the Newisys Opteron
 servers before they were offically released to the
 public.  Used them for work related to Red Storm.

 g.day



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Joe McDonagh

On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote:

I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
with running 64-bit O/S on the box.


g.day

diana

I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx 
systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to i386.


--
Joe McDonagh
AIM: YoosingYoonickz
IRC: joe-mac on freenode
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Scott Stanley
Thank you all for humoring this caveman's ponderings.

I missed one glaring detail about the V20z; SCSI drives ($$).

I've got about 800GB of data to serve (very infrequent access; mostly
just to stream One Piece episodes to my TV on the weekends, so I
figured form factor could take priority over a system being tuned for
such a job).

still, your input has been very helpful, and I may consider one or two
of these for other uses (the noise is something I'm prepared to deal
with, but thanks for the advice Stuart).

-Scott

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Joe McDonagh
joseph.e.mcdon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote:

 I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
 noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
 if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
 with running 64-bit O/S on the box.


 g.day

 diana

 I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx
 systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to
i386.

 --
 Joe McDonagh
 AIM: YoosingYoonickz
 IRC: joe-mac on freenode
 When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.



urtwn works also on macppc

2010-11-10 Thread Tasmanian Devil
Hello, list!

After seeing this commit:

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/arch/sparc64/conf/GENERIC.diff?r1=1.258;r2=1.259

I tried the same on macppc -current, and it works just fine with my
Belkin Surf Micro WLAN USB-Adapter F7D1102de (sorry, site is in
German, couldn't find an English version):
http://www.belkin.com/de/support/product/?lid=depid=F7D1102de

Tas.


Index: GENERIC
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/macppc/conf/GENERIC,v
retrieving revision 1.201
diff -u -r1.201 GENERIC
--- GENERIC 5 Nov 2010 16:09:30 -   1.201
+++ GENERIC 10 Nov 2010 17:31:15 -
@@ -290,6 +290,7 @@
 uberry*at uhub?# Research In Motion Blackberry
 ugen*  at uhub?# USB Generic driver
 uath*  at uhub?# Atheros AR5005UG/AR5005UX
+urtwn* at uhub?# Realtek RTL8188CU/RTL8192CU
 ural*  at uhub?# Ralink RT2500USB
 rum*   at uhub?# Ralink RT2501USB/RT2601USB
 run*   at uhub?# Ralink RT2700U/RT2800U/RT3000U


$ usbdevs -vf /dev/usb0
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x),
NEC(0x1033), rev 1.00
 port 1 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, 802.11n WLAN
Adapter(0x1102), Realtek(0x050d), rev 2.00, iSerialNumber 00e04c01
 port 2 powered
 port 3 powered
 port 4 powered
 port 5 powered



OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.WIFI) #0: Wed Nov 10 17:52:04 CET 2010
r...@powerbook.local:/usr/src/sys/arch/macppc/compile/GENERIC.WIFI
real mem = 2147483648 (2048MB)
avail mem = 2079510528 (1983MB)
mainbus0 at root: model PowerBook5,6
cpu0 at mainbus0: 7447A (Revision 0x102): 1666 MHz: 512KB L2 cache
mem0 at mainbus0
spdmem0 at mem0: 1GB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5
spdmem1 at mem0: 1GB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5
memc0 at mainbus0: uni-n
hw-clock at memc0 not configured
kiic0 at memc0 offset 0xf8001000
iic0 at kiic0
adt0 at iic0 addr 0x2e: adt7467 rev 0x71
lmtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x49: ds1775
asms0 at iic0 addr 0x58: rev 1.34, version 0.1
iic1 at kiic0
lmu-controller at iic1 addr 0x42 not configured
mpcpcibr0 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0xff
pci0 at mpcpcibr0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth AGP rev 0x00
vgafb0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M10 rev 0x00, mmio
wsdisplay0 at vgafb0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation)
mpcpcibr1 at mainbus0 pci: uni-north, Revision 0x5
pci1 at mpcpcibr1 bus 0
pchb1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 Apple UniNorth PCI rev 0x00
bwi0 at pci1 dev 18 function 0 Broadcom BCM4306 rev 0x03: irq 52,
address 00:11:24:94:21:ad
cbb0 at pci1 dev 19 function 0 TI PCI1510 CardBus rev 0x00: irq 53
macobio0 at pci1 dev 23 function 0 Apple Intrepid rev 0x00
openpic0 at macobio0 offset 0x4: version 0x4614 little endian
macgpio0 at macobio0 offset 0x50
modem-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x1d not configured
modem-power at macgpio0 offset 0x1c not configured
accelerometer-1 at macgpio0 offset 0x13 not configured
accelerometer-2 at macgpio0 offset 0x14 not configured
headphone-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x1f not configured
amp-mute at macgpio0 offset 0x20 not configured
hw-reset at macgpio0 offset 0x25 not configured
linein-detect at macgpio0 offset 0xc not configured
headphone-detect at macgpio0 offset 0x17 not configured
cpu-vcore-select at macgpio0 offset 0x1b not configured
macgpio1 at macgpio0 offset 0x9 irq 47
pgs0 at macgpio0 offset 0x11: irq 55
gpio4 at macgpio0 offset 0x1e not configured
escc-legacy at macobio0 offset 0x12000 not configured
zsc0 at macobio0 offset 0x13000: irq 22,23
zstty0 at zsc0 channel 0
zstty1 at zsc0 channel 1
snapper0 at macobio0 offset 0x0: irq 30,1,2
timer at macobio0 offset 0x15000 not configured
adb0 at macobio0 offset 0x16000 irq 25: via-pmu, 0 targets
apm0 at adb0: battery flags 0x5, 100% charged
piic0 at adb0
iic2 at piic0
backlight at macobio0 offset 0xf300 not configured
kiic1 at macobio0 offset 0x18000
iic3 at kiic1
wdc0 at macobio0 offset 0x2 irq 24: DMA
atapiscsi0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, DVD-R UJ-845E, DMP2 ATAPI
5/cdrom removable
cd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings, DMA mode 2
audio0 at snapper0
ohci0 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 0,
version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci1 dev 26 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 29,
version 1.0, legacy support
ohci2 at pci1 dev 27 function 0 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0
ohci3 at pci1 dev 27 function 1 NEC USB rev 0x43: irq 63, version 1.0
ehci0 at pci1 dev 27 function 2 NEC USB rev 0x04: irq 63
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NEC EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 1 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0x20
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 Apple OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 

Re: machdep.allowaperture=1 radeon 128 vs nvidia

2010-11-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
For future reference, does anyone know if modern ati and intel gpus
perform just as XwellX fast at aperture=1?



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:45:15 -0500
Joe McDonagh joseph.e.mcdon...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote:
  I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
  noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
  if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
  with running 64-bit O/S on the box.
 
 
  g.day
 
  diana
 
 I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx 
 systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to i386.
 

It's a shame considering it's a more secure cpu stack, but that's
just life. Is there certain hardware that it works flawlessly and as
well as i386 on?



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:39:35 +0100
Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in 
  /etc/mk.conf.  

I found when using fetch_packages I had to use make install rather than
make package. Hardly a big deal, but is that expected?



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Joe McDonagh

On 11/10/2010 12:39 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:45:15 -0500
Joe McDonaghjoseph.e.mcdon...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote:
 

I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
with running 64-bit O/S on the box.


g.day

diana

   

I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx
systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to i386.

 

It's a shame considering it's a more secure cpu stack, but that's
just life. Is there certain hardware that it works flawlessly and as
well as i386 on?

   
No clue, however in talks with several developers I was told the hard 
locks I was experiencing aren't exactly 'rare', and have gotten worse 
over time.


--
Joe McDonagh
AIM: YoosingYoonickz
IRC: joe-mac on freenode
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.



SOLVED Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500

2010-11-10 Thread Leslie Jensen

On 2010-11-10 11:14, Anders Trobdck wrote:



I'm running 4.8 on a E6500 and my cd are working just fine but I'm
using the AHCI mode!


Br/Anders



Thank you all who replied, with you help I have managed to solve my 
problem. :-)


With a lot of fiddeling with Win7 after Goggle had found people with the 
same problem, I managed to get Win7 to start with bios set to AHCI.


OpenBSD 4.8 now finds all the drives and I'm happy :-)

Thanks :-)

/Leslie



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Henning Brauer
* Scott Stanley amorphous.yet@gmail.com [2010-11-09 16:58]:
 I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
 you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?

avoid at all cost

 Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
 server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
 Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
 not real world stuff).

the v20z is not really sun, that is newisys. might actually be usable.

all real sun amd64/i386 gear i had my hands on over the previous years
was horrible. and that is mostly due to the management processors
being so incredibly bad. and you can't even turn it off on at least
some systems.

-- 
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting



Re: The Book of PF, second edition

2010-11-10 Thread Denny White
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:49:02AM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen spoke thusly:
 It seems that every three years or so, I get to spam this list about a
 product I'm responsible for, and in fact I hope to make it into a
 tradition.
 
 With the syntax changes in 4.7, the book needed an overhaul.  The
 result is here, finally, up to date as of 4.8.  I got my author's
 copies yesterday, and my initial reactions can be found at
 
 http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2010/11/book-of-pf-2nd-ed-its-here.html
 
 If you don't care for my relatively non-tech ramblings in that post,
 you can go directly to the source via at least two routes:  The
 OpenBSD.org orders page at https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
 (with a CD set, it makes a nice bundle I'm told) or the book's page
 at the No Starch press site, http://http//nostarch.com/pf2.htm
 
 As always, thanks to Theo, Henning and other developers who keep
 making the task of writing about OpenBSD fun and interesting.
 
 All the best,
 Peter
 
 -- 
 Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
 http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
 Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
 delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
 

Already got the pdf. Waiting on the book now. As usual, great stuff.
Thanks for all the hard work.


-- 

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AES-NI and GCM performance

2010-11-10 Thread Doug Clements
I see a number of changes in the 4.8 changelog referencing additions
of AES-NI and AES-GCM. This PDF from Intel extolls the (rather
astounding) virtues for linux:

http://edc.intel.com/Link.aspx?id=3754

Has anyone published any performance numbers for this on OpenBSD
running on fancy new Intel processors? Google searches are coming up
with nothing.

There are a few obvious linux-specific enhancements there, but I'm
hoping the OpenBSD support comes close to the single-thread
performance. Line-rate GigE at 500 byte packets would be pretty
pleasing by itself.

--Doug



Re: ports not detecting packages in PKG_PATH

2010-11-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 05:42:24PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:39:35 +0100
 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Sorry, I should have specified that I have FETCH_PACKAGES=Yes in 
   /etc/mk.conf.  
 
 I found when using fetch_packages I had to use make install rather than
 make package. Hardly a big deal, but is that expected?
Yes



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Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-10 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Hello Ted,

thanks, first of all. Del key is now working marvellously :)
(btw, is this hack valid cross platform?)

Instead Home and End are still stuck... buy, maybe, this could be due to the
fact that where I'm experimenting is a laptop (dell latitude L400) and I'm
getting respectively Home with Fn+PgUp and End with Fn+PgDn.

I'm getting day by day more into ctrl-A/E hype :D
I'll try on a toshiba (with native Home and End keys) in a couple of days,
though.



On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's been a long period I'd been wishing to use Del, Home and End keys of
 my
  keyboard on CLI instad of crtl-D, ctrl-A, ctrl-E. I got this problem only
 in
  the shell, as in appz (like nano for instance) everything works
 correctly.

 man ksh.  /bind

 bind ^XF=end-of-line
 bind ^XH=beginning-of-line
 bind '^[[3'=prefix-2
 bind '^[[3~'=delete-char-forward



Re: Architeture Choose

2010-11-10 Thread Eric S Pulley
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 23:47 +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: 
 * Scott Stanley amorphous.yet@gmail.com [2010-11-09 16:58]:
  I've heard a lot of praise for Sparc gear on this thread. Do many of
  you have much experience with Sun's amd gear?
 
 avoid at all cost
 
  Anyway, I was considering buying a Sun Fire V20z (amd) as a home
  server, and would like to hear about any good or bad experiences with
  Sun+AMD (googling yields only media hype and performance reviews, but
  not real world stuff).
 
 the v20z is not really sun, that is newisys. might actually be usable.
 
 all real sun amd64/i386 gear i had my hands on over the previous years
 was horrible. and that is mostly due to the management processors
 being so incredibly bad. and you can't even turn it off on at least
 some systems.


Unfortunately on the latest batch I've worked with I have to concur. I
have about 150 SunFire X4400 and X2100 series system (they use Xenon not
AMD, at least on the 4400) and they just plan suck. Fan indicator/PS
failure lights on all the time and at least one memory problem on almost
every system. I've come to the conclusion that most of these problems
are with the embedded Linux service processor screwing up and reporting
an error that may or may no exist. On top of that, I had about 20 of
these service processors just flat out fail (entire logic board
replacement). Everything on these systems depend on the SP working even
the on off switch...  Oh and to save money or something the cd drive in
these things are attached to a USB bus and it doesn't appear to be
v2.0... slow as hell and the internal connector fails all the time.

They are also subcontracted out to some other manufacturer for Sun...
can't remember what one. Run far away from these systems.



Re: AES-NI and GCM performance

2010-11-10 Thread LeviaComm Networks

On 10-Nov-10 15:21, Doug Clements wrote:

I see a number of changes in the 4.8 changelog referencing additions
of AES-NI and AES-GCM. This PDF from Intel extolls the (rather
astounding) virtues for linux:

http://edc.intel.com/Link.aspx?id=3754

Has anyone published any performance numbers for this on OpenBSD
running on fancy new Intel processors? Google searches are coming up
with nothing.

There are a few obvious linux-specific enhancements there, but I'm
hoping the OpenBSD support comes close to the single-thread
performance. Line-rate GigE at 500 byte packets would be pretty
pleasing by itself.

--Doug



Performance figures are the most useless things around.  Every situation 
is different and thus performance can vary wildly.  For me, I can push 
almost a Gig, but that is with a high-end system with a tuned kernel, 
multiple Gig ports each with TCP offload engines as well as crypto 
accelerator cards.




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2010-11-10 Thread Pears gallery
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Re: Use of DEL, HOME, END keys on i386

2010-11-10 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks, first of all. Del key is now working marvellously :)
 (btw, is this hack valid cross platform?)

 Instead Home and End are still stuck... buy, maybe, this could be due to the
 fact that where I'm experimenting is a laptop (dell latitude L400) and I'm
 getting respectively Home with Fn+PgUp and End with Fn+PgDn.

Those happen to be the bindings that worked on my system.

The best way to fix your system is to bind to whatever keycodes the
buttons make.  This is probably accomplished by typing bind 'ctrl-V
home'=beginning-of-line.

ctrl-v escapes the next button you press.



Carrera y Cursos de Gastronomia Para Extranjeros

2010-11-10 Thread Escuela de Gastronomia Mariano Moreno
ESCUELA DE GASTRONOMIA DEL INSTITUTO SUPERIOR MARIANO MORENO

BUENOS AIRES, ARGENTINA

IMPORTANTE INFORMACION PARA ESTUDIANTES EXTRANJEROS


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Su Lugar espera...Congreso en Acapulco para Secretarias Ejecutivas y Asistentes, 19 y 20 de Noviembre 2010.

2010-11-10 Thread Katya Robles
Pms Capacitacisn Efectiva de Mixico .

Congreso Nacional ACA 2010 19-20 de Noviembre

Evolucisn Profesional para Secretarias Ejecutivas y Asistentes

Perfeccionamiento, Tecnologma y Desarrollo

Pms Capacitacisn Efectiva de Mixico . los invita a este espectacular
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