Re: obsd 3.4 port of mysql may have error9 issue again...

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +, Paul Pruett wrote: just a heads up, for mysql on new openbsd 3.4 just did the make build for src with OPENBSD_3_4 Tag and mysql port from anoncvs today because I was starting to see the infamous errorcode 9 with the beta port of mysql ??? OpenBSD

Re: Problems building bison on OpenBSD 4.3

2008-03-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:51:27PM -0600, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: On 3/25/08, Matthias Kilian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:28:07PM -0600, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: I'm running OpenBSD 4.3-stable on i386. Ports are 4.3-stable too. How?

Re: GTK2 - what's wrong?

2008-04-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:54:16AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: Trying to compile a simple example taken from: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk-tutorial/stable/c39.html#SEC-HELLOWORLD ...code below... #v+ #include gtk/gtk.h int main( int argc,

Re: suggested change to fgetln manpage example code

2008-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 05:49:09AM +0200, Tobias Ulmer wrote: Costs 250$/EUR or something last time i've checked. The electronic version should be available for *ways* cheaper, like $18 or so. There's also a paper book by Wiley Sons, with the rationale and standard, costing ~50 EUR. ISBN 0

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:38AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now comes fully optimized out of the box. Yes, I did notice the age, but that was about all that Google had for me.

Re: Chatting with developers? Is it soo 1996?

2008-04-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:12:08AM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: I found an old email on the mailing lists, dating back to 1996, when Theo announced users could connect and chat with the developers on their ICB server. I'm wondering, when did it go private? Why can't users join and chat.. or

Re: poll(2) vs kqueue(2) performance

2008-04-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:43:20AM +0200, Jonathan Schleifer wrote: Edwin Eyan Moragas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the question is, which one is more useful when writing new servers? kqueue or poll? poll is more portable, while kqueue should be more performant (at least, that's why it was

Re: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status....during linking...

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 03:04:23PM -0700, vatocleti wrote: vatocleti wrote: Hey all, I installed 'gmake' to build a Linux based Makefile that uses 'gcc' and when I issue 'gmake' I get the following error: /usr/bin/ld: my_app.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making

Re: E17

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:22:51PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Where can i find the E17 port maintainer? This info doesn't seem to be in mine, perhaps my tree is borked? make show=MAINTAINER gives you The OpenBSD ports mailing-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] so there you have it.

Re: Rolling release?

2008-04-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 03:04:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 08:48:47PM -0400, Jason Beaudoin wrote: the devs have been hard at work for many years, and I'd be willing to bet that they like the system they've come up with. If they didn't, they'd change it.

Re: Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M

2008-04-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 01:13:40PM +1000, mufurcz wrote: Hi, We've got a few Lenovo T61 with Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M video cards. As far as I know, these cards are based on the GeForce 8400M G or GS chip set (not an expert), and provides some entry level 3D performance, more than enough to

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:56:19AM -0300, Vinicius Vianna wrote: Maybe the best languages for start web development would be PHP and Perl, i don't know about ruby since i've never used it, but a lot of people talks nicely about it ;) The current situation sucks a bit. You've got a choice of

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
I am currently running a web site which says http://joomla.* Strangely enough, it's a drupal site, with no joomla at all. (after spending a week of hair pulling trying to coerce joomla to do whatever I wanted, as the `best-of-breed' solution of choice to brain-dead newbies, I settled on a

Re: web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 01:42:05AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: AFAIK Amazon.com is primarily developed using Mason, an excellent Perl-based web site development and delivery engine - I highly recommend it: http://www.masonhq.com/ Yeah, historically, that's been the case. I have absolutely no

Re: : web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:10:41PM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 05:15:43PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: I am currently running a web site which says http://joomla.* Strangely enough, it's a drupal site, with no joomla at all. (after spending a week of hair pulling

Re: : : web development on OpenBSD

2008-04-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 09:36:59AM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: From which release is Drupal in ports? I can not find it in OpenBSD 4.1. I know it is time to upgrade but my installation runs sooo nicely now. 4.3, excellent time to update.

Re: : : web development on OpenBSD (Drupal)

2008-05-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 07:46:06PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote: On 30/04/2008, at 7:36 PM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: Oops my bad english. I thought drupal was a for me unknown common english word, not a CMS name. It was which CMS system you had chosen I was curious to know... Which brings us

Re: make fails on @pkgpath net/libnet

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:48:44AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Novice Alert! I keep hitting this error output when trying pkg_add or use ports method to install nmap The instant cases were pkg_add nmap-3.95p0-no_x11.tgz Error is: Unknown element: @pkgpath net/libdnet,no_python

Re: xchm port

2006-02-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 10:26:02PM -0300, Joco Salvatti wrote: I have installed xchm from a non-offical OpenBSD port. The installation process ran fine, however the program is not running completely fine. When I try to open a .chm document it doesn't open. In the status bar the message

Re: OBSD 3.8: bash, libiconv, libintl in rc.securelevel

2006-03-07 Thread Marc Espie
Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: While poking around, I see that there is a package for a static version of bash: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org//pub/OpenBSD/3.8/packages/i386/bash-3.0.16p1-static.tgz 2. For an automated installer, how would the installer know where to get the proper package? The URL

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 ports quality?

2006-03-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 12:10:53AM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Why do you insult to the GNU people? aren't you using their compiler?. I do not understand why you say such things. Peace, please. *I* can insult the GNU people. I've spent enough time working around their over-engineered code

Re: old libs removal

2006-04-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 09:51:57AM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: If you do this - any apps which are linked against the older versions will likely stop working. the reason upgrade leaves them lying around is so that your applications which were built using an older version of the

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 10:05:28PM -0700, paul dansing wrote: Is there some reason this issue is being ignored? What, you people need to see an exploit before you will even LOOK at it and answer whether it is vuln? I'm not the maintainer of php itself, but still I have an opinion. I don't

Re: exploit for openbsd 3.9 php 4.4.1p0/5.0.5p0

2006-05-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:08:50AM -0700, paul dansing wrote: also, i wish openbsd would release updated packages instead of just the patches. i would do it myself but who would trust a binary some random guy posts? openbsd maintainers have to step up and do this. why aren't you guys

Re: Mic recording

2006-05-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 12:40:30AM +0200, Rico wrote: Hi Anyone who can recommend a good and easy to use tool for recording audio (mic) from the packages? It doesn't need to have any gui but build in compression like MP3 is preferable. I know there are a couple of different tools but

Re: Qt Error compiling

2006-05-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:06:35PM -0500, uv negativa wrote: Hi i compile # env MOC=moc3 env UIC=uic1 ./configure [...] checking for uic... not found configure: WARNING: No Qt ui compiler (uic) found! any ideas obvious typo on your part !

Re: PHP vs Mason vs Ruby vs JSP/Tomcat

2006-05-26 Thread Marc Espie
To refocus the current discussion somewhat, I'm going with HTML::Mason myself, for various reasons. The first one is that I trust the perl people to do something sensible. They've got a lot of advanced frameworks that do work, and they understand something about security. The downside is the

Re: package dependencies

2006-06-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 10:47:40PM +0100, poncenby wrote: p.s. this question comes from the need to know the exact packages to download and burn to CD in order to get a reasonably usable desktop system running gnome, when said system has no connection to the interweb Just use pkg_add !

Re: package dependencies

2006-06-17 Thread Marc Espie
was responding to. Marc Espie said that I could use pkg_add -n ... (-n = Do not install) to fetch a package together with it's dependencies, but that doesn't work because pkg_add does checks ... Just tell it to install stuff elsewhere instead, or tell it to use -r anyways. It will still work. Why

Re: pkg_add -u not working

2006-06-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 12:03:34AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my oppinion the tool does NOT WORK like descriped... Why? If you update from 3.8 to 3.9 it MAY work. But if a depency was updated or so it totaly fails... godfather $ sudo pkg_add -ui Looking for updates: complete Are

Re: Dynamically Increase IPC on OpenBSD ?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 09:43:59AM +0200, Vincent Blondel wrote: Hello all, I would like to increase some IPC values on my OpenBSD 3.9 box. These parameters need to be changed for Squid. When I look at the current values I receive next result [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/etc/squid] # ipcs -Q

Re: pkg_add -ui - Using Ports except or real Packages?

2006-06-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:10:21PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, the other solution, would be enable pkg_add -ui (maybe with another argument to use Ports) using the Port-system to update. The interface will use PKG_PATH. After all, using ports is just another kind of url, similar to

Re: Recompiling Perl 5.8.6

2006-07-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:42:25PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Is it OK to download perl 5.8.6 (the same that is in OpenBSD 3.9) then compile it using supplied hints/openbsd.sh and install over the existing perl? I want GDBM_File and GDBM_File is in perl 5.8.6. No, you don't know that it is

Re: Recompiling Perl 5.8.6

2006-07-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:40:10AM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: Anyways, I can build a GDBM port, it's no hardship, and probably trivial to do... Committed. Quite simple, seems to work. Much better than recompiling the whole of perl.

Re: pkg_add

2006-07-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 10:58:15AM +0300, Claudiu Pruna wrote: Hi there, Can anybody enlighten me, why in OpenBSD 3.9/i386 with GENERIC #617, happens the followings: ftp get bash-3.1.1p0.tgz |pkg_add -v - local: |pkg_add -v - remote: bash-3.1.1p0.tgz 227 Entering Passive

Re: stopping robots

2006-07-31 Thread Marc Espie
I've got a robots.txt, and a script that loops to infinity. Actually, it's a useful page on the server, there's a list that can be ordered two ways, and switching from one to the other increments a parameter at the end of the invocation. A robot has no business reading that specific page in the

Re: infinite tree in qt libraries

2006-08-09 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 11:01:40AM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Is this infinite directory tree intentional? Yes. It's a symlink, so tools don't see it. You have to explicitly walk it down yourself. It's needed to simplify some builds which expect the whole of qt to live in a single directory.

Re: mirroring packages without much bandwidth overhead

2006-08-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:40:18AM -0400, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: On 8/14/06, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006/08/14 17:59, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: In which case, the patchlevel needs to be bumped (eg. foo-1.0.tgz - foo-1.0p0.tgz). No boom here, unless the maintaner was

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 01:15:09PM -0700, Jon R H wrote: There is no way anybody can win from any of this! That's the worst part of it all! all BSD's will are suffering! Nope. I don't see OpenBSD suffering from this, not for real. The BSDs have always been about the code, not the

Re: OT: Amarok Sound Device

2006-09-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 12:57:52AM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: Hiya, I decided to bite the bullet and test a 4.0 snapshot. Seems great so far. Seems the guys over at amarok have replaced gstreamer with xine to decode compressed formats. In the old gstreamer config section you could specify a

Re: figures with magicpoint

2006-09-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:18:31PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: What do I use? I need a spartan simple tool like magicpoint itself. Is xfig the right choice? What about inkscape? I am somewhat excited with SVG. Are ther other image manipulation tools out there? I guess gimp would

Re: Low priority or real coders

2006-09-16 Thread Marc Espie
What do I care about the size of vim ? My development box has got 1G of real memory, and vim is the most single important tool on that box ! All I care about is that it starts up fast enough, and it does what I need it to do (visual highlights with v, and multiple windows). Heck, it's pretty

Re: qt 3.3 or later

2006-09-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:36:14PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Hello I am trying to compile qcad 2.x from sources which says Qt 3.3 or later - which packages should I install? Just qt4-4.1.0p0.tgz? Or some more? qt3-mt-3.5p4.tgz That's the one, this is qt 3.3.5, in fact. qt 4

Re: glib2 fails to build on ppc-current: pthreads issue?

2006-09-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:15:49AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Douglas F. Calvert wrote: checking for pthread_create/pthread_join... no checking for pthread_create/pthread_join in -lpthread... no checking for pthread_create/pthread_join in -lpthread32... no checking

Re: 24kHz plays slower on 3.9

2006-10-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:29:37AM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: 48kHz, 44.1kHz and 8kHz sampling rate wavs play the right speed on my system. 24kHz play annoyingly slower. I took a 44.1kHz song, resampled to 24kHz using sox rate -ql and checked with audacity, if the sox resampling is not wrong.

Re: update automaticly

2006-10-19 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 09:28:23PM +0700, sonjaya wrote: i have script for update automaticly here: # cat /root/update_part1.sh #!/bin/csh cd /usr/src setenv CVS_CLIENT_PORT -1 setenv CVSROOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs cvs -d $CVSROOT -q up -rOPENBSD_3_9 -Pd date

Re: Package update candidates

2006-10-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 02:18:09PM +0400, Bruno Carnazzi wrote: Hi misc, When upgrading some packages with 'pkg_add -u', I sometimes see : No need to update uptodate_package and Candidates for updating package - the_same_package_the_same_version What's the difference ? Please notice

Re: OpenBSD AJAX

2006-10-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:55:09AM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: Just a Quick Question, I have been searching for a direct answer to: is it possible to have a AJAX enabled Website hosted on OpenBSD? Yes. I have one. the reason why I am asking is because Apache is version 1.3.x (due to

Re: your mail

2006-10-31 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 01:19:09PM -0500, John Kintzele wrote: Hello, OpenBSD 4.0 installed from official CD (i386). No problems. In trying to install various Gnome apps (e.g., gedit), I'm running into a missing lib problem, and while I've people who've had the same problem on Google, I

Re: i18n/l10n

2006-11-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:56:29PM -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote: Looked in the FAQ and don't find any path to start understanding internationalization and localization in OpenBSD ... if there is such a path? Nope, there isn't. For one good reason: it's still work in progress. The integration of

Re: layout of filesystems on OpenBSD

2006-11-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 07:32:38PM +0100, Robert Urban wrote: For example, how could /usr/X11R6 possibly represent a threat to eat all the space is /usr? X11R6 content is static. (yes, I know, software packages put stuff there, but for the purposes of this discussion it's static). Actually,

Re: How to force reinstall package

2006-11-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 04:44:25PM +0100, Piotr Jedryczek wrote: On 11/11/06, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pkg_add -F installed /usr/ports/packages/amd64/all/libiconv-1.9.2p3.tgz doesn't work? No. But can I remove entry in /var/db/pkg, remove files from package manually and

Re: Perl distribution incomplete in 4.0?

2006-11-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:42:02PM -0700, Kevin Konowalec wrote: So does the default perl distribution in 4.0 have problems with dynamic linking of modules? Should I rebuild perl? Try to statically load the module? No, it has no problems with dynamic linking of modules. It must be

Re: Perl distribution incomplete in 4.0?

2006-11-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 05:32:14PM -0700, Kevin Konowalec wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Kevin Konowalec wrote: Well all I've done so far was: - install OS - install packages. which step was wrong? As you wrote in your earlier message, someone told you you need the X11

some more ports hackathon thanks

2006-12-02 Thread Marc Espie
I can't stress enough the importance of the ports hackathon. The current ports infrastructure changes come directly from some discussions we had during that week. The idea of streamlining MULTI_PACKAGES was completely non existent before Budapest. Maybe I would have thought about it at some

Re: Links sources and GPL

2006-12-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 04:56:46PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: From this I have a feeling that the Links distribution of OpenBSD doesn't accord to the terms of GPL. Do you have an argument to convince me that I am wrong? ftp ftp.openbsd.org cd pub/OpenBSD/distfiles ls links* you can't have

Re: Compiling netpbm

2006-12-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 11:50:48AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Hello I want to use xpm2ppm, but it doesn't work because it says [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xpmtoppm vnc/img_0.xpm xpmtoppm: Input file has line that is too long (longer than 2048 bytes). Obviously, someone programmed with

Re: Doubt about license

2008-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:38:13AM +0530, debian developer wrote: 1. BSD license is completely free. No one needs to give back changes forcibly(the GPL way), hence this is completely free. If what i hear is correct, there are companies(Microsoft) which take BSD code (network stack i hear)

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made me realize how much better the driver is. Almost the same, except that my old laptop

Re: Apache suexec problem

2008-05-05 Thread Marc Espie
I've looked a bit at suexec, trying to make it go saner. I still cringe. The model is intrinsically broken, for a lot of reasons. I don't think it's feasible to fix suexec for real. You've got to realize that suexec basically *elevates* a process to root, making its decision on its name and

Re: Screen,colorls,xterms issue. 4.2

2008-05-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 07:45:06AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Girish Venkatachalam escribis: On 22:20:18 May 10, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenBSD 4.2, a clean install. I have experienced some problems using screen and X with colorsls. The issue is that when I launch 'screen'

Re: Debian libssl security (OpenSSH safe?)

2008-05-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:14:59AM -0500, Sean Malloy wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:37:38AM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: I guess everyone by now has heard about the very serious libssl vulnerability on Debian/Ubuntu? Just making sure that the source is safe, thanks. /juan Here

Re: Debian libssl security (OpenSSH safe?)

2008-05-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 09:41:00PM +0400, B A wrote: Can't find relation between bug in openssl deb package and valgring. There is no such info in the original link as I see (DSA-1571-1). Cold you be more specific and informative? Thank you.

Re: updating ports after OS update

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:19:12AM +0200, Robert Urban wrote: # pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends What do I need to do about the numerous ports I built and installed? Do they need to be updated manually? The packages you built manually, assuming you used a virgin ports tree, are

Re: SRC in PKG_PATH ( was Re: updating ports after OS update )

2008-05-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:47:09AM -0700, Ben Calvert wrote: On May 16, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Marc Espie wrote: Or even add a SRC: element to your PKG_PATH as a fallback. Marc - where is this documented? i can't find it in pkg_add, package, or friends. It was finished fairly recently

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 03:23:17PM +, hyjial wrote: Hi list ! Reading through OpenBSD's codebase, I have noticed that the code living under src/usr.sbin/pkg_add is written in Perl. Perl is distributed under the Artistic license, though. The latter is not as permissive as the BSD license

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:42:05PM +0200, Almir Karic wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as perl goes, it's about the only language that fit the bill. The older pkg_* were totally impossible to maintain and extend, and I needed a sensible

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:16:03AM -0600, Diana Eichert wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008, Marc Balmer wrote: or maybe I should write my next radio clock driver in forth, I heard it is fast and small, so I am sure it is the right tool for drivers...) YES! Marc if you put forth in base and

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:20:50PM -0400, Hugo Villeneuve wrote: perl offers faster software development. perl is not fast. Just saying. Althought, I think that's what you meant too. # sysctl hw.model hw.physmem hw.model=SUNW,SPARCclassic, TMS390S10 @ 50 MHz, on-chip FPU

Re: [OT] Python License [WAS: Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?]

2008-05-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 06:23:23PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: Hello, How about the python license? Not that I'm really capable of rewriting and/or patching the pkg_* tools but from a license point of view I think that the license under which python is distributed is quite similiar to a

Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?

2008-05-24 Thread Marc Espie
A final word. For all you backseat drivers: this is OpenBSD. Those who do the work get to call the shots. I did get permission from my fellow developers to switch our pkg_* to perl once I made a strong enough argument. A huge part of the argument was the actual code. I did write tools that

Re: small, random essay on performance tuning, was: remove....

2008-06-07 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 07:59:31PM -0700, Peter Hessler wrote: Removing device drivers may speed the boot process on your system, but can complicate recovery should you have a hardware problem, and is very often done wrong. Removing device drivers iwill not/i make your system run faster by

Re: pkg_add errors

2008-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:22:17AM -0500, c l wrote: Anyone else get this message when doing pkg_add's from ftp sites? 421 There are too many connections from your internet address I get this on all my openbsd boxes, 4.3 and -current from June 10, 2008. All of them are behind either a

Re: pkg_add errors

2008-06-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 03:23:29AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-06-11, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:22:17AM -0500, c l wrote: Anyone else get this message when doing pkg_add's from ftp sites? 421 There are too many connections from your

Re: Typo in pkg_delete output message?

2008-06-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 08:09:56AM -0500, Aaron Poffenberger wrote: I tried to delete a partial package by typing `pkg_delete partial-xulrunner-1.8.1.13`. Apparently it wasn't fully installed and I received the following output message: /bin/sh: xulrunner: not foundading plist I'm guessing

Re: Get rid of windows limit in 'window'?

2008-06-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 06:18:31PM -0700, F. Caulier wrote: I just discovered 'window' in base, a very usefull tool! I was used to install 'screen' to get a terminal multiplexer but as I found 'window' which gives me multiplexing without 'screen's' bloat and restrictive license. I still

Re: OT: Dissertation ideas for my degree

2008-06-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:48:08PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: Lars NoodC)n wrote: Edd Barrett wrote: I would love a decent network filesystem, but its probably too much work for an undergrad project. Its more like a PHD. What's missing from OpenAFS? Or do you mean hammering out lumps in NFS

Re: Failing to install packages with $PKG_PATH

2008-06-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 10:34:33PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 06:56:00PM -0300, Daniel B. wrote: Hi, I've updated to the today -current and I can't install packages as I usually do. # export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386

Re: getpwnam_r() missing on OpenBSD 4.3

2008-06-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:23:54PM -0400, (private) HKS wrote: Not sure if this is the right list for this question, so let me know if it needs to go somewhere else. My OpenBSD box is missing the getpwnam_r() function described in the getpwent(3) man page. At least, it's described at this

Re: getpwnam_r() missing on OpenBSD 4.3

2008-07-02 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:04:21AM -0400, (private) HKS wrote: Let's hear it for my attention to detail. Does anybody happen to have a creative workaround for threaded applications requesting this call? I'm experimenting with changing the call to getpwnam(), but that's out of morbid

Re: getpwnam_r() missing on OpenBSD 4.3

2008-07-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:42:35PM -0400, (private) HKS wrote: Backporting this is beyond my meager C abilities (and time to learn, at the moment). Considering where the getpwnam_r comes from, backporting it would be more or less equivalent to running -current anyways, since getpwnam_r comes as

Re: pkg_add not terminating

2008-07-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 07:32:07PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote: On 12/07/2008, at 12:31 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Ivo van der Sangen wrote: When trying to install texlive_texmf-minimal-2007p2.tgz I run into problems. The pkg_add script does not terminate. The progress bar stops at 100% and

Re: scripting port install driving me mad

2008-07-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:11:18PM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: Hi, I have a script that I use to automate server installations. Every time I come to the point of installing a port with a certain flavor: postfix with sasl2/mysql I can never get it to work. I thought I had it working

Re: scripting port install driving me mad

2008-07-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 08:38:18PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:11:18PM -0400, Juan Miscaro wrote: Hi, I have a script that I use to automate server installations. Every time I come to the point of installing a port with a certain flavor: postfix with

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 04:52:16PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Will Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:30:36PM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: Depends on tcl-8.4.7p6, .. maybe, .. but what does X have to do with git??

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

2008-07-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:30:02AM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote: If a command line tool like git has a 'GUI Helper', then that package is broken (which, I believe, is the case in this situation). You don't get it, so I'll explain it. There are a lot of packages in OpenBSD. We can spend time

Re: This is what Linus Torvalds calls openBSD crowd

2008-07-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:47:54PM +0100, Nuno Magalhces wrote: Eheh he's right :-) If you guys get your heads out of your asses and actually read his words with the use of some common sense you might get what he means. It's a balanced opinion. It's a totally misinformed opinion. Quoting In

Re: Trying to compile cwm on Linux

2008-07-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:01:50PM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: +#define strlcpy(dst, src, size) (strncpy((dst), (src), (size) - 1)) +#define strlcat(dst, src, size) (strncat((dst), (src), (size) - 1)) To be a bit more specific than Theo, don't believe idiots like Ulrich Drepper. There's a

Re: make ls not show dot-files as root

2008-07-29 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33:54AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Hi, using 4.2. Just for curiosity... Can I make ls to NOT show the hidden files (.xinitrc , .vimrc, etc) when using as Root?? Thanks 4 all. Why is this a problem ? When you're root, you really want to see all the files. If

Re: Not updating .libs1-gettext-0.16.1, remember to clean it

2008-08-15 Thread Marc Espie
You know, if you go on like that, you're going to end up in my killfile, and a lot of other people as well.

Re: Is there a non-X11 version of Prolog available?

2008-08-30 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 03:48:54PM +0100, Simon Connah wrote: I've just been trying to install the SWI-Prolog port and it seems like it needs X11 installed to run. Is there a command line version of Prolog floating around at all? Or do I need to compile and install my own copy?

Re: Stop in line 73 of Makefile

2008-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 08:52:54PM -0700, Doug Milam wrote: Thanks; I had never set or changed any flags until a few days ago, in trying to 'fix' this issue. Perhaps someone compromised the system via FTP (ftpd was running only anonymously), or via HTTP. * * Sorry to be harsh, but it's

Re: Stop in line 73 of Makefile

2008-09-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 07:58:54AM -0700, Doug Milam wrote: Anything I can do short of re-installing from a CD? I was able to rebuild the kernel successfully... Make sure you strip any special parameter from each directory and file you have... Depending how much work you did, it may be

Re: autoconf error message suggestion

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Espie
Okay, guys, kill it. The main issue I have with Karel is that he lacks basic tact. But saying metaauto lacks some documentation is not necessarily wrong. However, since he's already written opensource software, maybe he could contribute ? I wouldn't object to a set of manpages for metaauto. I

Re: OT: TinyMCE security and track records

2006-12-21 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 03:02:11PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Sorry for this off topic question, but I get more and more requests to have WYSIWYG editing on web management servers. I have been resisting this for many years so far as I hate this, but look likes more and more demands may

Re: dylan language

2006-12-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 11:42:44AM -0800, Joe wrote: Is this for real? I figured if anyone could shed some light on this, an OpenBSD developer might be able to comment on this dylan language. I'm not looking to learn dylan, but am just wondering if this is legit. I wouldn't mind running

Re: Spamassassin segfaults

2006-12-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 11:30:27AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: When I clear the stale lock and re-run it, then it segfaults again. Are you familiar with this problem? I will try yet erasing the .spamassassin directory (no idea how to erase the db without corrupting the contents of

Re: OT Was: Wanted: OpenBSD Systems Administrator

2007-01-03 Thread Marc Espie
For once, I'm going to say this from my position as an OpenBSD developer who has sunk countless hours into writing code for this OS. It's obvious a lot of wankers around here have nothing better to do than start threads based on that job offer. I am perfectly happy with someone posting a job

Re: Is Theo still hiking ????

2007-01-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:17:14PM +, Jeroen Massar wrote: Also note that FT serves the whole country of France, you might not like them, but they also have a right to use the Internet ;) Most ISP's get only a /32 and there are millions of those. Getting a /19 is really something that only

Re: perl webapp and threads

2007-02-11 Thread Marc Espie
Basically, you're out of luck for now. Tough problem.

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