Re: Dennis Ritchie

2011-10-15 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
== ORIGINAL MESSAGE == To: austin-grou...@opengroup.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:36:26 +0200 Dennis Ritchie, one of the two fathers of UNIX, and the father of C, has passed away today. via Rob Pike - 8:02 PM - Public I just heard that, after a long illness, Dennis

Sorry for that noise

2011-10-17 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Anonymous Remailer (austria) mixmas...@remailer.privacy.at Scheint mir diese armselige Fritz WChler KrC6te zu sein. Schade, das sein Account **nicht** im September expired ist ... (The Fritz WChler account actually expired in september. It really had to create a new one!) Hast es immer noch

share/man/man4/em.4

2011-10-19 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Ciao, i've found a mismatch in between 49.html and the mentioned man(1) (82583V). 'Coming from nowhere, should be verified by someone who knows. --steffen diff --git a/share/man/man4/em.4 b/share/man/man4/em.4 index 2b0fa5c..8d4aac6 100644 --- a/share/man/man4/em.4 +++ b/share/man/man4/em.4 @@

Commit log messages

2011-10-19 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hello, thanks go indeed to you. And i'm a bit ashamed right now. That Daode has been given to me somewhen, it belongs to my philosophy, but there is *really* no need at all to include it somewhere for *you*. It's also (useless) typing like crazy. So, please, shall i ever be able to provide

Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-22 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Ciao, 49.html states: dhclient(8) now accepts 'egress' as an interface name, meaning whichever interface is marked as being in the 'egress' group. but the manual page doesn't mention it. Also it seems to me that dhclient.c:get_ifname() uses an error() call with a %m format without any

Re: Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-22 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hello again, ok and while i did the patches i'm replying to, i did't understand: the code seems to be a real nifty automatic deduction of configuration data which is made available somewhere else (ifconfig(8)). It may be stupid, useless etc. The appended diff implements a '=GROUPNAME' command

Re: Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-23 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Jason McIntyre j...@cava.myzen.co.uk wrote [2011-10-22 16:24+0200]: i will look at it. but i'm pretty sure we won;t want that. jmc Thanks for looking at *that* anyway! It was the wrong source diff from somewhere in between. I can't comment on 'egress' otherwise. ifconfig.8 talks about

Re: Patch for dhclient.8 and dhclient.c

2011-10-23 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Argh! - besides everything what jmc@ said, it should have been the following diff *for sure*: diff --git a/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 b/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 index 9d77c7e..b6094c1 100644 --- a/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 +++ b/sbin/dhclient/dhclient.8 @@ -57,6 +57,16 @@ The name of the network

Re: Updating plus.html

2011-11-02 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
I would say, you follow the github.com/openbsd repo, and do a git log. Just a question: i'm personally tracking git://anoncvs.estpak.ee/openbsd-{src,xenocara}, a link which was introduced by Stuart Henderson in a message some months ago. Is that github.com repo (beside the fact that it also

Re: Updating plus.html

2011-11-02 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Ciao, Ingo Schwarze wrote [2011-11-02 15:58+0100]: When Nicolas did it and i saw what he said regarding mandoc(1), i sometimes went Huh? Which change is that referring to? or a few times even What? I never did that... - even though Nicolas certainly used care and spent considerable effort,

Re: Updating plus.html

2011-11-04 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi all, i still have some doubts about that github thing. Or, to be more exactly, i just don't know. But it turns out that the two repos only have three heads in common: BOOTBLOCKS, BRIAN and graichen (from the 19-hundreds). On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Brett brett.ma...@gmx.com wrote:

cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)

2011-11-07 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Stuart Henderson wrote [2011-11-07 9:47:53+0100]: the three public cvs-git imports of OpenBSD are separate efforts I desperately searched for some OpenBSD git(1) repository and couldn't find one, but remembered one post of yours and so i ended up at anoncvs.estpak.ee, having no problem ever

Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)

2011-11-07 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Philip Guenther wrote [2011-11-07 19:03+0100]: On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso sdao...@googlemail.com wrote: ... That is to say, to end this lengthy thing, i would have appreciated it if i would have found some URL to a trusted git clone on the official OpenBSD

Re: cvs is the project's VCS (Was: Re: Updating plus.html)

2011-11-07 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
I have a mail of someone who is actively fought by the henchmen of No. 43! Theo de Raadt wrote [2011-11-07 18:52+0100]: Even if there would have been a note that the project itself has chosen to use cvs(1) and that git clones are unofficial. wow, that's backwards. History is very

Re: Where to buy Lemote FuLoong MIPS boxes?

2011-12-16 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, welly, well! I dunno, but maybe Fritz simply misunderstood A Clockwork Orange - completely, that is? The same actor also played in Caligula. That one is much much better for your handwork, Fritz! And couldn't some cute Austrian restart selling OpenBSD in

Re: Where to buy Lemote FuLoong MIPS boxes?

2011-12-20 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Gregory Edigarov wrote [2011-12-19 11:30+0100]: Taiga and Niva is two different models, just for the record... You cannot hide Austria only because the boys (B;BurschenB+) are not qualified for Ukraine/Poland 2012! What if England had not been able to qualify? Would you pretend not to know ---

Re: Longsoon/Godson MIPS boxes, where to buy?

2011-12-30 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Richard Thornton wrote [2011-12-30 14:25+0100]: what's your damage? The damage of Fritz WChler is that he doesn't read books. I'm currently reading Richtisch beese MC$uler (Hessische Satiren) Reallybad Jaws (Satires from Hesse) a retrospective of humour from my little homeland

Re: Static or dynamic code analysis software

2012-01-16 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Chris Smith wrote [2012-01-16 13:21+0100]: Are there any dynamic or static C code analysis tools available for OpenBSD? [swoosh] You may try llvm from packages, it aims to have a good analyzer. lint(1) is in base. I'd still like to be able to check that I've not made any hideous cock-ups in

Re: Keyboard mapping

2012-01-23 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi, Simon Perreault wrote [2012-01-23 21:44+0100]: /etc/kbdtype contains cf. I tried playing with kbd and wsconsctl. I'm not an expert, but i'll append something for you to play with even more. Maybe it'll help you. Otherwise wait for the answer of someone who actually is an expert.

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-01-28 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hey, Dave Anderson wrote [2012-01-28 15:13+0100]: [.] I haven't yet had a chance to look into how cvs works beyond reading the man page, faq, etc. Also true for me. I've run into this problem perhaps a dozen times over the past several months [.] I've noted a lot of upload network

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi Amit, Amit Kulkarni wrote [2012-02-01 00:57+0100]: this motivated me to use cvsync from anoncvs and use a CVSROOT=/home/amit/MYLOCALREPO to update from cvs. Much much faster and while initial checkout from cvsync takes 5-10 hrs Yes, that's a real pity. I think it would be great if tarballs

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-02 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Henning Brauer wrote: there aren't all that many repositories the size of ours out there. That's true. But no Henning, i don't believe it's that; you know, it's just that i don't have anything to say, because i have no knowledge about the internals of cvs(1). I always thought of this as some

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-03 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Otto Moerbeek wrote [2012-02-03 12:47+0100]: I like to say that long delays I have seen when using cvs had to do with multiple different values of CVS/Root files in my local tree. Those different entries can be created when doing a cvs up -d that creates a new dir. If a cvs -d option is used

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-09 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
1. On the long run cvs(1) will die, and be replaced by Schily SCCS (oh god, why does v6 not have any branch name info, too??), which will rule the world. Without having the need to use GNU autoconf at all, so that software will compile with make(1) not gmake(1). Make bootstrapping easy. Freedom!

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-09 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
there aren't all that many repositories the size of ours out there. My upload-traffic problem never occurred with binutils, which is also an *incredible* large repository, especially if you up -d. 10% there and my monthly traffic would exhaust, and no begging would help. I have no idea, I

Re: Long delay updating xenocara source tree?

2012-02-10 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Stuart Henderson wrote [2012-02-10 01:01+0100]: On 2012-02-09, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso sdao...@googlemail.com wrote: On the long run cvs(1) will die, and be replaced by Schily SCCS oh please don't, even as a joke. It's not that bad! It's from 1972, and only good things can come from 1972

Re: Unbound in base

2012-02-14 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Henning Brauer wrote [2012-02-14 13:52+0100]: anything depending on PYTHON MY WOMAN! (gimme a break) Aeh. Man. will never make it into base anyway. If it were true! --steffen

Re: Trusting the Installation

2012-03-05 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Rudolf Leitgeb wrote [2012-03-05 13:51+0100]: Look where almost all desktop and laptop CPUs come from. And where these devices plus their peripherals are made. Oh yes! You really just can't trust America. Really. --steffen

Re: My OpenBSD 5.0 installation experience (long rant)

2012-03-09 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Henning Brauer wrote [2012-03-09 20:51+0100]: i hope obama never tries to scroll up. that red shiny button... Sorry, but that knocked me out. Good night. --steffen

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
@ Corey clinge...@gmail.com wrote (2011-06-01 04:39+0200): I mean, come on -- storing data in unused bits in a pointer? Even I know that's a bad idea. But really, there are user-space memory pools which align on 8 or 16 byte boundaries, so here you have at least three perfectly fine bits.

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
@ Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote (2011-06-01 14:12+0200): Storing tag bits in the lower bits of a pointer can be ok indeed if you know things about alignment restrictions. Of course it all stands and falls with the quality of the memory allocator! If that sucks your canary's chirp beeps

Re: vmmap: bad software everywhere

2011-06-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
@ Alexey Suslikov alexey.susli...@gmail.com wrote (2011-06-01 21:04+0200): Why do they need such a trick instead of simply storing tags in a associative array, where key is a pointer and value is a set of tags (or any other arbitrary data)? Lookup against properly aligned array is relatively

Re: OT: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.

2011-06-08 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
This really has nothing to do on this list, but here I go... @ Ariane van der Steldt ari...@stack.nl wrote (2011-06-08 14:00+0200): I did say that. I said code proof (assisted or manual) is a lot of work. Yes, we should start over. If we start over we can make it so much better! We can do

Re: My thoughts on OpenBSD - is advocacy working ?

2011-09-01 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
@ Daniel Villarreal yclwebmas...@gmail.com wrote (2011-09-01 17:21+0200): Seeing and hearing that Lamborghini was a pleasant surprise. Lambo is Audi now. I.e. Volkswagen - one generation. OK, two. I'd also be interested in checking out one of the Tesla motor cars. And Tesla is actually a

Re: Wildest Africa Tour

2011-04-09 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 12:14:43PM +0200, Tobias Ulmer wrote: Lions are useless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBpu4DAvwI8 The Gods Must Be Grazy.

Re: Choosing a window manager...

2011-05-02 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:50:50 +0100, marc li...@drwx.org wrote: Hi all, Subject: Choosing a window manager... All of you - you are completely misguided. The redmoondian horror misled you to use crude stuff. (Hey, if you're american: crude is *not* a noun here!!!) 'Cause there is one, and only

Re: ksh's HISTFILE

2012-03-14 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi, Claus Assmann wrote [2012-03-14 03:05+0100]: Maybe try something like this? HISTFILE=${HOME%/}/.ksh_hist.$$ for what's it worth, i do use the following in my multi-shell (ksh(1), bash(1), FreeBSD sh(1)) .shrc: export TTY=$(/usr/bin/tty | /usr/bin/sed -e 's/.\{1,\}\/\(.\{1,\}\)$/\1/')

Re: Is nginx to complement or replace apache?

2012-03-29 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Theo de Raadt wrote [2012-03-28 22:44+0200]: If software cannot cope intelligently with soft resource limits, then such software is probably broken. Otherwise, let's just remove the entire resource limit subsystem, ok? I found out that i miss some kind of physical keyword. The impossibility

Re: Shuttle XS35 v2 - One key going loco

2012-03-30 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Opera wrote [2012-03-30 12:58+0200]: Using the same keyboard where I first saw the bug but connected to a plain old PC. I use hexdump like this: # hexdump -C tap the problem key, then hit return and then Cntrol-D With numlock off I see: ^[[3~ 1b 5b 33 7e 0a 0005 With

Re: undeadly

2012-04-25 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi all you messy-int-typedef-mix rejectors, Jeremy O'Brien wrote [2012-04-25 13:56+0200]: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 01:21:06PM +0200, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 07:10:32AM -0400, Jeremy O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:04:27PM +0200, mxb wrote: On 04/25/2012

Re: undeadly (window managers)

2012-04-29 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Marc wrote: the reason why i like it is precisely because it's simple and doesn't come with tons of features that change all of the time, it's the same look feel on all systems I use, and has been like that for years. That is true for me, too. I don't use any pointing devices for normal

Re: File descriptor - name?

2012-05-05 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Alan Corey ab...@devio.us wrote: | Is there a way to get the name of a file that's open when all you've | got is a file descriptor? | | I'm working on porting something, that I didn't write. with directories | full of source. I'm seeing a problem with an ioctl being the wrong type,

Re: systat total freeze

2012-05-06 Thread Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
Hi, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: | hi there, [.] | could the reason be, that after the update both | libkvm.so.13.0 and libkvm.so.13.1 were still under /usr/lib? The dynamic linker will use the first library it encounters to resolve the symbols (which can be used for nice