On 07/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FYI, masquerading is a LINUX shit but openbsd rules with its PF power.
FYI, "masquerading" is a generic term and a synonym for NATing, and
not an invitation to diss Linux.
At 09:33 AM 2/8/2008 -0500, Jim Razmus wrote:
* L. V. Lammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080207 13:30]:
> At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science
>> and in fact, it is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps:
>>
* Lori Barfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080207 12:41]:
> consumer IP space is really a problem for outgoing mail.
> at the very least, all the majors will add spam points to
> your messages and so your mail is a lot more likely to
> be bulked. even resold IP space at large colos is treated
> that way
* L. V. Lammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080207 13:30]:
> At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science
>> and in fact, it
>> is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps:
>>
>> 1. Get a domain name and look for regist
On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:38 AM, L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote:
I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at
the moment. I
am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-
On Thursday 07 February 2008 18:39:18 L. V. Lammert wrote:
> At 04:54 PM 2/7/2008 -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> >On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:06:08PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > > > Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails
It's email. I am not sending a rocket to the moon. Like I said you
either care or you don't. For me it is perfectly acceptable that
someone won't get my email. This has nothing to do with the quality of
my code. This also has no bearing whatsoever on the project. I fail to
see why that needs
At 04:54 PM 2/7/2008 -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:06:08PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
>
> > Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it
> > didn't.
> >
> > What you forget here is that "most" don't
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:06:08PM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
>
> > Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it
> > didn't.
> >
> > What you forget here is that "most" don't adhere to standards.
> >
> Didn't say it wouldn't wo
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:49:58PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Spreading misinformation? Look, I subscribe to an ISP with ADSL that provided
> me with
> public dynamic IP address. I register it to a registrar that offers dynamic
> hosting
> courtesy of www.no-ip.com and I am sending this em
L. V. Lammert wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it
didn't.
What you forget here is that "most" don't adhere to standards.
Didn't say it wouldn't work, .. but I, for one, don't want to have to call
someone to m
On 2008/02/07 16:06, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> If you want to hack a setup together [lacking one
> of the DNS requirements like reverse lookup], it's important to know that
> your email *MIGHT* not get through, and there's nothing you can do about
> it.
Same applies *with* al
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it
> didn't.
>
> What you forget here is that "most" don't adhere to standards.
>
Didn't say it wouldn't work, .. but I, for one, don't want to have to call
someone to make sure they get
Lori Barfield wrote:
consumer IP space is really a problem for outgoing mail.
at the very least, all the majors will add spam points to
your messages and so your mail is a lot more likely to
be bulked. even resold IP space at large colos is treated
that way by default, and it causes heartburn fo
On Thursday 07 February 2008, Lori Barfield wrote:
> just having reverse DNS isn't good enough, either, because
> if it has a name that "looks" like dynamic IP space, that
> can also get your mail treated with prejudice.
Yes, I've seen that in practice as well.
--
Chris
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Well, as always, it depends. What do _you_ mean by a mail server? Do
you mean that you want people to mail you directly and your mail to go
out to the internet directly and bypass your ISP? If so, you'll need a
fixed IP and help from you ISP since they normall block t
Lori Barfield wrote:
consumer IP space is really a problem for outgoing mail.
at the very least, all the majors will add spam points to
your messages and so your mail is a lot more likely to
be bulked. even resold IP space at large colos is treated
that way by default, and it causes heartburn fo
On Feb 7, 2008 2:51 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the moment.
> I
> am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-assassin
> on this box along with web, ssh and samba.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any e
On Thursday 07 February 2008, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> What you forget here is that "most" don't adhere to standards.
I'm not sure it's a standard, but for many it (matching the servers helo
name with the PTR record) is standard practice. Some then continue with
a forward lookup and expect the A
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reliably? I been running it for 3 years already without single incident that
those damn
e-mails I'd sent reached their destinations at all.
Indeed it comes down to this for the OP... do you want to listen to one
person telling you (very incorrectly) that it can't b
Works for me and has for years. You would not see these emails if it
didn't.
What you forget here is that "most" don't adhere to standards.
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 11:26:17AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You can absolutely run a mail serve
Reliably? I been running it for 3 years already without single incident that
those damn
e-mails I'd sent reached their destinations at all.
> At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science
>>and in fact, it
>>is dumb
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Cc: OpenBSD Misc
Subject: Re: running mail server at home
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:38:30 -0600 (CST)
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote:
> > I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD tha
L. V. Lammert wrote:
Please stop spreading misinformation. Unless you have reverse DNS
setup, ANY email server that adhering to standards should (and
probably will) block your incoming email.
It's also rather incorrect to simply state, "You _must_ have reverse DNS
to run a mail server at
Spreading misinformation? Look, I subscribe to an ISP with ADSL that provided
me with
public dynamic IP address. I register it to a registrar that offers dynamic
hosting
courtesy of www.no-ip.com and I am sending this email to you because of it. And
you tell
me that I am preaching something not
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 05:45:44PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If your ISP is blocking port 25, port 110, and port 143 both ways maybe it is
> high-time
> you consider changing internet service provider. There is no point paying
> them good
> money when what they are doing is basically bloc
Shane Harbour wrote:
I beg to differ. It really depends on your ISP and how far you really
want to go. I've run everything (DNS, mail, etc) out of my basement for
3 years now.
Ditto.
I've been running my own OBSD web/mail server in an old 1U SuperMicro
server up my attic for about two year
If your ISP is blocking port 25, port 110, and port 143 both ways maybe it is
high-time
you consider changing internet service provider. There is no point paying them
good
money when what they are doing is basically blocking ports here and there.
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:38:30AM -0600, L. V.
At 04:43 PM 2/7/2008 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science
and in fact, it
is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps:
1. Get a domain name and look for registrars that can host it for you. For
example,
check this kind of s
L. V. Lammert wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> In reality, you cannot run your own mail server at home. This would
> require:
>
> 1) DNS resolution for your domain name
> 2) Appropriate MX records
> 3) Valid REVERSE DNS for your IP
>
> #3 is usually the big factor for most I
Lee's point about getting reverse DNS is not to be missed. It's
important and possible. You'll just have to fight your way past first
level tech support. It took me some work to get it myself, but in the
end I got it.
I ended up telling the first level guy that I _was_ running Windows,
OpenBSD
Absolutely, there is nothing hard about it and in fact it is very stupidly
simple.
Preaching about reverse lookups for these purposes is a sort of masochistic
ignorance.
> I don't do reverse dns and most people get my email just fine. If you
> don't I probably don't care enough to hear about it
Either you want to send or receive mail from anyone and from anywhere in
cyberspace,
that is irrefutably possible. Like I said, consider this site:
www.no-ip.com
I am not working for them but I had used their affordable services and it works
well.
One thing, if your ADSL router at home has eith
consumer IP space is really a problem for outgoing mail.
at the very least, all the majors will add spam points to
your messages and so your mail is a lot more likely to
be bulked. even resold IP space at large colos is treated
that way by default, and it causes heartburn for businesses.
just havi
I beg to differ. It really depends on your ISP and how far you really
want to go. I've run everything (DNS, mail, etc) out of my basement for
3 years now. Granted I had to switch ISPs in order to do so and upgrade
to a "server class" DSL line. They even delegated control of my reverse
DNS to me
I don't do reverse dns and most people get my email just fine. If you
don't I probably don't care enough to hear about it.
I have 5 static IPs at home that resolve. Nothing hard about it; I just
refuse to pay $5/month for reverse lookups.
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:38:30AM -0600, L. V. Lammert
You can absolutely run a mail server at home. This is not rocket science and in
fact, it
is dumb easy to do. Try to follow these steps:
1. Get a domain name and look for registrars that can host it for you. For
example,
check this kind of services at www.no-ip.com.
2. Configure your ADSL router
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:38:30AM -0600, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> In reality, you cannot run your own mail server at home. This would
> require:
>
> 1) DNS resolution for your domain name
> 2) Appropriate MX records
> 3) Valid REVERSE DNS for your IP
>
> #3 is usually the big factor for most ISPS,
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote:
> > I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the
> > moment. I
> > am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-assassin
> > on this box along with web, s
I run all my stuff at home and even do virtual hosting for web and mail
for one of my wife's websites. I have a separate box for mail running
postfix, dovecot, postgresql, clamd, and spamd. It's not a beefy box
but still works well. Haven't really seen my electrical bill go up. I
did have to g
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote:
> I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the moment.
> I
> am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-assassin
> on this box along with web, ssh and samba.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any ex
I run all my stuff at home. My old firewall (just replace it) was a
pentium pro 200 with 128MB; my mailserver is a PIII 800 and runs www,
postfix, dovecot, mysql and some other junk. Works just fine.
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:51:31AM -0800, Chris wrote:
> I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's d
I stumbled today upon this while following a different article, maybe it is
helpful to you
http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/mail/
> I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the moment.
> I
> am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-as
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was wondering if anyone has any experience with running a mail server at
> home.
It is doable with OpenBSD on the sort of box you describe. For small
scale operations, it is possible to fit all those things on a single
machine, if you like.
For any usefu
Hi,
Chris schrieb:
> And also if is there anything else I would need to know.
For it to work properly at home you would, first, need a fixed IP
address. Second, you can get problems because a lot of spam filters are
blocking dynamic IP ranges or even IP ranges that look dynamic because
of its PTR
I have a P3 box with 120GB HDD that's doing web, ssh and samba at the moment. I
am planning setup sendmail, spamd, mimedefang, clamd and spam-assassin
on this box along with web, ssh and samba.
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with running a mail server at home.
I want to know if I sho
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