OpenOSPFd and multipath routing questions...

2005-11-29 Thread David Ulevitch
Misc, I'd like to hear how people are using OpenOSPFd and how it's working out. Are people using it in any sort of a local-cluster load balancing method? For example: rtr1 servers area 1 and has three NTP servers attached all announcing the same /32 over OSPF with some logic on the

Re: pfsync/carp via 2 ISP's

2005-11-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 08:47:04AM -0800, edgar mortiz wrote: hey guys is there anyone here ever tried to put up a openbsd fail-over fw using 2 obsd boxes connected to 2 different ISP's ? something like: ISP1 (66.77.204.10) ISP2 (207.110.9.10) | fxp0

Re: pfsync/carp via 2 ISP's

2005-11-29 Thread David Coppa
On 11/29/05, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just put a switch in front of the two firewalls, and then do CARP (for firewall failover) plus some smart routing tricks (for ISP failover - search the archives, I forgot the proper keywords)? pf route-to? Regards -David

Re: I have $300

2005-11-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Bob Ababurko wrote: ... I wanted a system that did not have moving parts. This was to hopefully extend the life of the machine and increase uptime by eliminating the hard drives and power supplies with moving parts. I am not paying for power so I

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Dennis Davis
From: Qv6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:35:24 -0600 ... Intersting news. I once worked for a major Telecom firm that used a commercial implementation of ssh. I was curious and I asked one of the other techies

Re: pfsync/carp via 2 ISP's

2005-11-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:31:03AM +0100, David Coppa wrote: On 11/29/05, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just put a switch in front of the two firewalls, and then do CARP (for firewall failover) plus some smart routing tricks (for ISP failover - search the

ISAKMPD problem 3.7 -- 3.8

2005-11-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello! I have a problem with ISAKMPD on a new machine running 3.8-RELEASE. The machines on the other sides of the tunnels are running 3.6-RELEASE and 3.7-RELEASE; they talk to each other just fine. But the machine with 3.8 cannot talk to any of the other two boxes. Reading in the

Re: vpn between OpenBSD and Linux/Openswan with x509 certs

2005-11-29 Thread tomk
Maybe I still need something like this in isakmpd.conf: # Certificates stored in PEM format [X509-certificates] CA-directory=/etc/isakmpd/ca/ Cert-directory=/etc/isakmpd/certs/ Private-key=/etc/isakmpd/private/openbsd1.as10.net.priv Am I on the right track? I

Re: pfsync/carp via 2 ISP's

2005-11-29 Thread Stoyan Genov
Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:31:03AM +0100, David Coppa wrote: On 11/29/05, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you just put a switch in front of the two firewalls, and then do CARP (for firewall failover) plus some smart routing tricks (for ISP

Re: ISAKMPD problem 3.7 -- 3.8

2005-11-29 Thread Hans-Joerg Hoexer
make sure to apply all patches for 3.7, see errata37.html. I've added fix a few days ago. Moreover, I need the full out put of -DA=80 to see what's actually going on. HJ. On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 01:20:25PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I have a problem with ISAKMPD on a new

Re: ISAKMPD problem 3.7 -- 3.8

2005-11-29 Thread HÃ¥kan Olsson
On 29 nov 2005, at 13.20, robdenz@@libero..it wrote: I keep getting messages such as Default pf_key_v2_get_spi: GETSPI: Operation not supported Default initiator_send_HASH_SA_NONCE: doi-get_spi failed Make sure you did not accidentally disable ESP (and AH) in /etc/ sysctl.conf. /H

how to send a wlan-card into standby? (just not so send _anything_) - questions to ifconfig down

2005-11-29 Thread Vincent Immler
Hi folks, I just bought a mini-pci-wlan-card with antennas and now want to use it with my soekris net4801. I have two requirements now: a) that card should not be available 24/7 due to wardrivers etc (- ifconfig interface down) b) but I also want this card _completely_ not sending any

Re: I have $300

2005-11-29 Thread Bob Beck
Actually, when I am in a position to use carp and pfsync I often do not bother with embedded, unless I have power concerns. If you want embedded buy the comell box suggested earlier, but if you really have no budget, dont bother with raid or other such nonsense. go find two cheap

ISAKMPD problem 3.7 -- 3.8 SOLVED

2005-11-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello! Yes, it works. I had accidentally disabled ESP and AH protocols in /etc/sysctl.conf (thinking I had *enabled* them by un-remarking them, instead). NEVER configure a machine when it's too late at night. Should have known better. BTW, Hans-Joerg, the 3.8 machine is tunneling OK

fastjar not available anymore?

2005-11-29 Thread Julesg
I went to /usr/ports and did make install clean and am stuck because sourceforge won't accept FTP requests to get fastjar-v93. Help. Where might I find this file. I did a google search and don't see any comments re licensing restrictions, but it seems that none of the usual [suspect] places

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Bob Beck
* Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-28 15:38]: This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor. Other people do it for us ;) http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/ Heck, I wanna meet the person who wrote that. It's brilliant spin. It's just deliciously

Re: I have $300

2005-11-29 Thread Marco Peereboom
I have an anecdote when it comes to disk in a firewall. My good old trusty sparc64 firewall's disk had died. At first I didn't notice it because the packets kept flowing but after a while I noticed some strange behavior so I decided to login to it and see what was wrong. Hmmm no login,

Re: OpenOSPFd and multipath routing questions...

2005-11-29 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:46:56PM -0800, David Ulevitch wrote: Misc, I'd like to hear how people are using OpenOSPFd and how it's working out. It works for most setups. It is not optimal for big ABRs. Are people using it in any sort of a local-cluster load balancing method? For

Re: fastjar not available anymore?

2005-11-29 Thread Josh Grosse
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 07:23:18AM -0600, Julesg wrote: I went to /usr/ports and did make install clean and am stuck because sourceforge won't accept FTP requests to get fastjar-v93. Help. Where might I find this file. I did a google search and don't see any comments re licensing

Re: bge0 Broadcom BCM5751 fails

2005-11-29 Thread Ray Kohler
Chuck McCollum wrote: I don't know if this is an issue or not, but the latest 3.8-current doesn't let my bge0 card perform properly. (Yes, I know it's broadcom...) I'm not complaining, nor am I requesting anything; I just thought that I'd let somebody know. Same results here, with same

Re: bge0 Broadcom BCM5751 fails

2005-11-29 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:16:10AM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote: Chuck McCollum wrote: I don't know if this is an issue or not, but the latest 3.8-current doesn't let my bge0 card perform properly. (Yes, I know it's broadcom...) I'm not complaining, nor am I requesting anything; I just

Re: umass trouble with USB flash drive

2005-11-29 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 11/29/05, Matt Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently installed OpenBSD 3.8 from the official CDs. The Flash drive that worked perfectly in OpenBSD 3.6 and OpenBSD 3.7 now misbehaves. Hi, Zvezdan... not to be pedantic, but have you confirmed the flash drive working on another

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-29 Thread Robbert Haarman
Greg, Again, you raise some interesting issues. I wonder how likely the catastrophic failures you describe are, versus how likely it is that things fail in a way where ccd actually helps you. I was hoping someone else would comment on that, but that doesn't seem to have happened so far. So

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-29 Thread Greg Oster
Robbert Haarman writes: Greg, Again, you raise some interesting issues. I wonder how likely the catastrophic failures you describe are, versus how likely it is that things fail in a way where ccd actually helps you. I was hoping someone else would comment on that, but that doesn't seem

Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-29 Thread Will H. Backman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Oster Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:26 PM To: Robbert Haarman Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO Robbert Haarman writes: Greg, Again, you raise some

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Han Boetes
The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think in terms of gaining money and loosing money. Open Source Software is a concept they will not understand easily since they don't have a concept of interacting with people without a gain or loss perspective. It is very important that

Ethernet Trunking

2005-11-29 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi all, I'm looking at the link aggregation feature (man trunk(4)) of OpenBSD 3.8. In my case, I'd like to use it on Ethernet interfaces : should the switch be configured in a special way or is it level-2 transparent ? I mostly use Cisco 2950 switches... What are the differences between

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Han Boetes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think in terms of gaining money and loosing money. Open Source Software is a concept they will not understand easily since they don't have a concept of interacting with people without a

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread tony sarendal
It is very important that we educate people about what the choice of open source software means. From a business perspective I don't see this being very important =) If the competition is willing to give me an edge on them, be my guests. /Tony

Re: OpenOSPFd and multipath routing questions...

2005-11-29 Thread tony sarendal
On 29/11/05, Claudio Jeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:46:56PM -0800, David Ulevitch wrote: Misc, I'd like to hear how people are using OpenOSPFd and how it's working out. It works for most setups. It is not optimal for big ABRs. Are people using it in any

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread pete wright
On 11/28/05, Qv6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 28 November 2005 04:04 pm, Theo de Raadt wrote: This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor. Other people do it for us ;) http://www.ssh.com/company/newsroom/article/684/ And... thanks to those of you who

OpenBSD 3.8+Mysql 5.0.16

2005-11-29 Thread Monah Baki
Hi all, I'm installing mysql from source. I know this is an error that has been posted several times: # /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -V /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql: can't load library '../libmysql/.libs/libmysqlclient.so.15.0' # cd /usr/local/mysql/bin # ./mysql -V # ./mysql Ver 14.12 Distrib

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: pete wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not that I don't think openssh is superior for the fact that it *is* open software, I bet that the company in question needs software support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and costs the company N dollar's it is easier to get

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Will H. Backman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spruell, Darren-Perot Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:57 PM To: 'misc@openbsd.org' Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity From: pete wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not that I don't think

Frequency of 3.8 Malloc Options Check

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Feustel
I now have 3.8 installed. Very Nice, especially Firefox. CDROM Artwork is also nicely done. My question is re Malloc. When and how often does malloc check the flags in MALLOC_OPTIONS. Once at system init, on every malloc call, or other? Can I set the options, run a program, and see if the new

Re: Frequency of 3.8 Malloc Options Check

2005-11-29 Thread Ted Unangst
On 11/29/05, Dave Feustel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I now have 3.8 installed. Very Nice, especially Firefox. CDROM Artwork is also nicely done. My question is re Malloc. When and how often does malloc check the flags in MALLOC_OPTIONS. Once at system init, on every malloc call, or other? Can I

RE: Re: Updated CCD Mirroring HOWTO

2005-11-29 Thread tony
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robbert Haarman writes: Greg, Again, you raise some interesting issues. I wonder how likely the catastrophic failures you describe are, versus how likely it is that things fail in a way where ccd actually helps you. I was hoping someone else would comment on

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Qv6
On Monday 28 November 2005 08:10 pm, pete wright wrote: On 11/28/05, Qv6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 28 November 2005 04:04 pm, Theo de Raadt wrote: This is why OpenBSD/OpenSSH does not need to hire a spin doctor. Other people do it for us ;)

Re: Frequency of 3.8 Malloc Options Check

2005-11-29 Thread Todd C. Miller
Note that you can also set the malloc options from within a program you are developing. I've found this to be quite useful for adding a belt and suspenders mode during developement (the use after free checks in particular). - todd

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Gustavo Rios
I dont think a separated business growing around that would be a good ideia? I don't really think so. I am not saying this happened to other projects like FreeBSD, but i switched from FreeBSD to OpenBSD exactly because much of what i saw the first time i started with FreeBSD i could not see since

Re: Frequency of 3.8 Malloc Options Check

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 19:19, Todd C. Miller wrote: Note that you can also set the malloc options from within a program you are developing. I've found this to be quite useful for adding a belt and suspenders mode during developement (the use after free checks in particular). - todd

Re: OpenBSD 3.8+Mysql 5.0.16

2005-11-29 Thread Joe Barnett
Monah Baki wrote: Hi all, I'm installing mysql from source. I know this is an error that has been posted several times: # /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -V /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql: can't load library '../libmysql/.libs/libmysqlclient.so.15.0' # cd /usr/local/mysql/bin # ./mysql -V # ./mysql

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread dick
Original message Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:56:33 +0100 From: Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #define failure opportunity To: misc@openbsd.org The people who they are addressing are bussiness, and they think in terms of gaining money and loosing money. Open Source Software

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Sean Comeau
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 06:10:17PM -0800, pete wright wrote: support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and costs the company N dollar's it is easier to get that money from a commercial entity whom you have a contract with (or more likely get money via a insurance broker of

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread bofh
On 11/28/05, Paul Pruett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: omg what a load of , to funny, any coporation stupid enough to fall for that story by ssh to buy Tectia ssh and not use openssh deserves to be taken for plus the security issues they will get. That's because there's a huge number

my multipath routing questions...

2005-11-29 Thread andrew fresh
Hijacking this thread, cuZ now I am worried . . . . On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 11:46:56PM -0800, David Ulevitch wrote: I'd like to hear how people are using OpenOSPFd I will prbly use OpenOSPFd in the future, but at the moment, my question is about using OpenBGPd and multiple lines from the same

Re: #define failure opportunity

2005-11-29 Thread Bill
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:19:01 -0800 Sean Comeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake: On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 06:10:17PM -0800, pete wright wrote: support lisc. for legal issues. If the software goes tit's up and costs the company N dollar's it is easier to get that money from a commercial entity whom

Re: HOTO Write bad documentation

2005-11-29 Thread Benjamin Collins
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 07:32:58PM -0600, J Moore wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:21:47AM +0100, the unit calling itself frantisek holop wrote: and i have a feeling they don't agree that openbsd must have debian-ugly pages made by c hackers in 1995 who hate html and think design is

Re: Frequency of 3.8 Malloc Options Check

2005-11-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, Dave Feustel wrote: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 19:19, Todd C. Miller wrote: Note that you can also set the malloc options from within a program you are developing. I've found this to be quite useful for adding a belt and suspenders mode during developement (the use

SOLVED: isakmpd tunnels get lost

2005-11-29 Thread Tobias Walkowiak
just for the archives: i did define a lifetime for the encryption-suites some time ago for a former configuration that once worked. deleting these lifetimes and thus using the defaults now works. so, no actually wrong config but rather too much config ;) thanks for the personal replies! --