Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Dear All, I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352 and I have couple of questions. I checked the

Re: Narrow down the stability of amd64.mp on Sun X4100 to mpi.c

2007-12-02 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Ant feedback on this part? So, is it possible based on the logs I sent that it is in the DMA part of the mp kernel here? Still digging, but wanted to get some feedback as if it was possible or am I looking totally in the wrong direction. Fine if you tell me I am full of sh*t too. (; Just

How to test if pfsync is working?

2007-12-02 Thread Jake Conk
Hello, I have pfsync setup between two servers and they're connected to each other through a cross over cable just as suggested in the faq. Now how do I test to make sure its working probably and rules and states are being synced up? I have ftp-proxy setup so if I connect to an a ftp server

Re: OpenVPN very high ping times to server

2007-12-02 Thread christian widmer
i've got a similar issue with virtual machines running within qemu. i get terribly high ping times as high with huge variation between guest and host. between guest an any other machine in the lan is ok. probably the combination of tun and lo which triggers this behavior? //llx On Saturday

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-02 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
A suspend/resume cycle kills all active network connections, but 'sh /etc/netstart' restores things fine. that's funny... in my case this is not needed... the connection is there after resuming... Is it possible that there's such a difference between the thinkpad T41 and T41p?? 2007/12/2, Pau

Re: OpenVPN very high ping times to server

2007-12-02 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 10:25:14AM +0100, christian widmer wrote: i've got a similar issue with virtual machines running within qemu. i get terribly high ping times as high with huge variation between guest and host. between guest an any other machine in the lan is ok. probably the

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I checked the Skype website I see that the current version 1.4 is for Fedora Core 6.0 There is also Skype Static OSS. You should try static OSS. Can anyone share hers/his experience in running Skype on OpenBSD. I tried it a long time ago, when

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-02 Thread Laurence Tratt
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 03:54:42PM +0100, Ted Unangst wrote: [Mark Thomas] If I close the lid on this laptop ( Thinkpad T41 ) the machine goes into a deep sleep but will not recover with OpenBSD 4.2. With 4.1 this worked flawlessly. xorg is not running during these tests. it will often come

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical shortcomings of not having the source code are more than theoretical. Here's *one*

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread David Kaye
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD Howdy, If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone, (

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Thornburg
In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119655219201385w=1, I wrote I have a more favorable experience to report, albeit on a T41p: With 4.2 (both -release and now -stable), suspend works perfectly. [[...]] Addendum: I have ampd running. Here's my /etc/rc.conf.local: --- begin

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=95261 That's why you run it in a chroot (or a vm). -- Jonathan

Re: How to test if pfsync is working?

2007-12-02 Thread NetOne - Doichin Dokov
Jake Conk P=P0P?P8QP0: Hello, I have pfsync setup between two servers and they're connected to each other through a cross over cable just as suggested in the faq. Now how do I test to make sure its working probably and rules and states are being synced up? I have ftp-proxy setup so if I

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
David Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to date. It might be easier to get working than Skype. Please

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Lars NoodC)n wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical shortcomings of not having the source code are more than

Re: How to track down a suspected memory leak?

2007-12-02 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
On Nov 25, 2007 5:22 PM, David Higgs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this possibly the same memory leak mentioned below? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119572453509542w=2 Thanks for your pointer! Indeed, this patch/errata appears to have sqashed the memory leak. A patched kernel did not loose

pfctl - show port numbers

2007-12-02 Thread MikeM
When I run the command pfctl -sr a list of the rules is displayed, a sample line is below. pass in log quick on fxp0 inet proto tcp from 226.174.167.164 to (fxp0) port = smtp flags S/FSRA keep state Is there a way for me to tell pfctl that I want to see port = 25 instead of port =

Re: How to test if pfsync is working?

2007-12-02 Thread Jason Dixon
On Dec 2, 2007, at 4:14 AM, Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I have pfsync setup between two servers and they're connected to each other through a cross over cable just as suggested in the faq. Now how do I test to make sure its working probably and rules and states are being synced up? I have

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Robert Gilaard
--- Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars NoodC)n wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: David Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to date. It might be easier to get

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is released). also see ports/telephony/pjsua in -current. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF

Re: help with pf

2007-12-02 Thread Rosen Iliev
Hi Aaron, The problem is that you pass base on src not destination: pass in on fxp3 inet proto tcp from $lan_net port { ssh www ntp https smtp imap imaps domain } to any it should be pass in on fxp3 inet proto tcp from $lan_net to port { ssh www ntp https smtp imap imaps domain } Also be

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Daniel
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:48:14 + Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is

Re: This list: CC and TO fields

2007-12-02 Thread Nick Holland
L wrote: When I reply to the group.. it puts the person's address and the groups address in TO/CC fields. Is it possible for the server to just send mail to the TO field to the group only, and not have a CC ? anything is possible... Not going to happen, however. :) Is this on purpose, so

Re: How to test if pfsync is working?

2007-12-02 Thread Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 01:14 -0800, Jake Conk wrote: Hello, I have pfsync setup between two servers and they're connected to each The command that you're look for is: $ sudo netstat -s state | grep -A 17 pfsync pfsync: 0 packets received (IPv4) 0 packets received (IPv6)

Re: dhclient.conf

2007-12-02 Thread Nick Guenther
On Dec 2, 2007 12:48 PM, David Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya. I have asked this before and so far noone has helped me. Perhaps it is too simple. Unfortunately I can't figure out a solution. Here it is again. I have 2 interfaces (fxp0 and wi0) which get their ip's from dhcp. wi0,

high ping times between qemu host and gemu guest with GEMERIC.MP

2007-12-02 Thread llx
hi machines involved: host running OpenBSD 4.1 GENERIC.MP#2 i386 / qemu-0.8.2p4 (dmesg see below) guest running OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1 i386 some running OpenBSD 4.0 GENERIC#12 i386 guest runs on host some another machine on the same lan 1. ping guest on host 36 packets transmitted, 36

dhclient.conf

2007-12-02 Thread David Walker
Hiya. I have asked this before and so far noone has helped me. Perhaps it is too simple. Unfortunately I can't figure out a solution. Here it is again. I have 2 interfaces (fxp0 and wi0) which get their ip's from dhcp. wi0, being wireless, is prone to lose it's connection. I want to change the

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 08:07:35PM +0200, Lars Nood?n wrote: Twinkle might (or might not) be an option http://www.twinklephone.com/ twinkle is being worked on. hopefully it will be imported before 4.3 is cut, assuming I quit slacking (sorry brad :(). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm not much for VoIP, but commented on Skype because I had been following the problems this summer. The main two strikes against Skype are its closed (BLOB) nature and its proprietary protocol. To bring up the security track record of Skype would be to just kick it while it's already down.

high ping times between qemu host and gemu guest with GEMERIC.MP

2007-12-02 Thread llx
hi machines involved: host running OpenBSD 4.1 GENERIC.MP#2 i386 / qemu-0.8.2p4 (dmesg see below) guest running OpenBSD 4.2 GENERIC#1 i386 some running OpenBSD 4.0 GENERIC#12 i386 guest runs on host some another machine on the same lan 1. ping guest on host 36 packets transmitted, 36

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Daniel wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:48:14 + Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this to be an interesting statement here. I hope I miss understood it. You totally misunderstood it. So, you may run OpenBSD, I assume this as you are on OpenBSD list, so your

4.4 not sending mail locally

2007-12-02 Thread Edward Paul Wehrwein
Hi All, I've got a recent, default install of 4.4 that doesn't seem to be able to send email locally. /var/log/maillog is full of the (somewhat sanitized, [[]] indicates replaced text) message below: Dec 2 13:34:47 melanie sm-mta[23205]: lAS6U6nI026028: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=4+12:04:41,

Re: OpenVPN very high ping times to server

2007-12-02 Thread Bryan S. Leaman
I did some more testing on this. I managed to configure OpenVPN in routing mode but using tap instead of tun. This eliminates the bridge entirely. I know this is probably not a normal config, but traffic flows and routes properly. However, I am *still* seeing the high ping times, and now

License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Pedro de Oliveira
Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link http://www.delilinux.de/oksh/ , seems like someone ported OpenBSD ksh to Linux and licensed it under GPLv3. Isn't this a license violation?

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Deanna Phillips
What other sip clients are there which will work on OpenBSD? I'm using icewm and don't consider Ekiga an option. As was mentioned earlier, pjsua, a command-line sip user agent, is in ports. It's the definition of nothing fancy, but it does demonstrate that the MI audio layer and various

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Jacob Meuser wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is released). also see ports/telephony/pjsua in -current. I

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Jacob Meuser wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is released). also see ports/telephony/pjsua in -current. I

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Anthony Roberts
I have seen several installations of Postfix go catatonic due to spam overload, large messages, mailing list expansions, and other undiagnosed problems. These were run by Postfix lovers, so I have always assumed that the installation was correct. In the one case I saw tested replacing Postfix

Re: dhclient.conf

2007-12-02 Thread David Walker
Thanks Nick. quote--- The timeout is set by the DHCP server when it provides the IP. You have to change the server's settings (or hack dhclient I guess) to give you this ability.

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Miod Vallat
Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link http://www.delilinux.de/oksh/ , seems like someone ported OpenBSD ksh to Linux and licensed it under GPLv3. Isn't this a license violation? See /usr/src/bin/ksh/LEGAL. People can do just about whatever they want with public domain code,

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
Predrag Punosevac wrote: ... It seems that SIP phones and in particularly Ekiga that I am the most familiar with have poor support for Windows and OS X. As most of people that I talk to (family and friends) run those operating systems it seems to me logical that I try to accommodate them ...

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread ropers
[quotes rearranged (but not changed) for easier parsing] On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I neither use Skype, nor do I promote it. (...) Again: I never said it's ok to run it. (...) I've recommended not running it outside of a chroot. (...) I care about security

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
I did this as an exercise some time ago... when I was learning how obsd works: www.aei.mpg.de/~pau/skype.png Now that I know that there is pjsua in ports waiting for us (it's only -current), which seems to be compatible for windows and MacOSX and linux, I'm looking forward to it! (I'm the only

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Marco S Hyman
Pedro de Oliveira writes: Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link http://www.delilinux.de/oksh/ , seems like someone ported OpenBSD ksh to Linux and licensed it under GPLv3. Isn't this a license violation? See /usr/src/bin/ksh/LEGAL. People can do just about whatever they want with

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Ivo van der Sangen
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:30:02PM -, Pedro de Oliveira wrote: Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link http://www.delilinux.de/oksh/ , seems like someone ported OpenBSD ksh to Linux and licensed it under GPLv3. Isn't this a license violation? It seems that this is not a violation

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Marco S Hyman
Miod Vallat writes: But some parts of OpenBSD's ksh are BSD-licensed files, which did not come from pdksh initially. That's not what /usr/src/bin/ksh/LEGAL states, but I didn't look further. OK, looking I see that alloc.c and mknod.c have copyrights. Relicensing these files under GPLv3 is

Re: pfctl - show port numbers

2007-12-02 Thread Henning Brauer
* MikeM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-02 15:35]: When I run the command pfctl -sr a list of the rules is displayed, a sample line is below. pass in log quick on fxp0 inet proto tcp from 226.174.167.164 to (fxp0) port = smtp flags S/FSRA keep state Is there a way for me to tell

Re: Dumb 486: Install From Hard Drive?

2007-12-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 10:59:14PM -0700, L wrote: But later when I get a clue and admit reality, I'll throw it on a pentium 600mhz box with 500MB of ram. Well, when you get a clue and don't want the laptops anymore, be sure to advertise them here. One with 32 MB ram would do me just fine

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread ropers
Pedro de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link http://www.delilinux.de/oksh/ , seems like someone ported OpenBSD ksh to Linux and licensed it under GPLv3. Isn't this a license violation? Marco S Hyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you DO use Skype, after all. You said above that you didn't. Which is it? No, not anymore. I used it in the past but now I use the normal telephone since I got a flatrate. Well, it's untrue that

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Do not pretend that you have no choice. quite This is indeed the point. It's hard, it hurts, but it's the point. After one year of migration, I am now using exclusively obsd on this laptop, without any kind of blob, and all hardware is supported. I have learnt to be patient. If you support your

Re: Machine will not recover from 'deep sleep' state [ IBM Thinkpad T41 ]

2007-12-02 Thread Mark Thomas
On Dec 2, 2007 7:53 AM, Jonathan Thornburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ampd running. Here's my /etc/rc.conf.local: Thanks for that little piece of information. I added that to my rc.conf.local and suspend/resume now works from X too. For the record this is on 4.1 using the ati driver in my

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Anthony Roberts wrote: I have seen several installations of Postfix go catatonic due to spam overload, large messages, mailing list expansions, and other undiagnosed problems. These were run by Postfix lovers, so I have always assumed that the

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Ivo van der Sangen
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:14:09PM -0300, Andr?s wrote: On Dec 2, 2007 5:42 PM, Marco S Hyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miod Vallat writes: But some parts of OpenBSD's ksh are BSD-licensed files, which did not come from pdksh initially. That's not what /usr/src/bin/ksh/LEGAL states,

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Matthew Weigel
Marco S Hyman wrote: Miod Vallat writes: But some parts of OpenBSD's ksh are BSD-licensed files, which did not come from pdksh initially. That's not what /usr/src/bin/ksh/LEGAL states, but I didn't look further. OK, looking I see that alloc.c and mknod.c have copyrights.

Re: pfctl - show port numbers

2007-12-02 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 09:45:37PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * MikeM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-02 15:35]: short of hacking pfctl source, no. Moving /etc/services elsewhere worked for me. Unforeseen consequences are the reader's responsibility... -- Jussi Peltola

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Marco Peereboom
There are other sources as well: http://www.peereboom.us/ksh_linux.html http://www.wormhole.hu/~ice/ksh/ Don't know why that dude went through the trouble of putting gplv3 shit on it. On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:30:02PM -, Pedro de Oliveira wrote: Hello, Someone on IRC just posted this link

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Darren Spruell
On Dec 2, 2007 2:21 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Anthony Roberts wrote: I have seen several installations of Postfix go catatonic due to spam overload, large messages, mailing list expansions, and other undiagnosed problems.

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 11:05:57PM +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: There are other sources as well: http://www.peereboom.us/ksh_linux.html http://www.wormhole.hu/~ice/ksh/ Don't know why that dude went through the trouble of putting gplv3 shit on it. fear, misunderstanding, and confusion

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread ropers
On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's untrue that you have a choice. For example, in Germany the tax computation program that companies need runs only on Windows and they *HAVE* to use it and to send it over the internet using it. I'm pretty sure that the state

IPSEC bridge and pf

2007-12-02 Thread tim
Having a bit of a time trying to find some info on what I need to pass and on what interface ( i.e. gif0 ?). The IPSEC bridge works fine with pf disabled. Would like to use my current pf configuration and add the use of the IPSEC bridge to that set up. Thanks

have HP PA-Risc 712/100 for donation in Munich

2007-12-02 Thread Robert Urban
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello folks, anyone in the Munich area interested in a PA-Risc 712/100 machine? it's got onboard video, a working disk (at least, the last time I powered it on), some memory, etc. Rob Urban Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora -

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:30:16AM +0100, ropers wrote: On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my mainboards has a UniChrome Pro onboard graphics chip, and there is a fully free and open source Linux driver for that ( http://www.openchrome.org/ ) and with it,

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 03:48:14PM -0700, Darren Spruell wrote: On Dec 2, 2007 2:21 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Anthony Roberts wrote: I have seen several installations of Postfix go catatonic due to spam overload, large

Re: pfctl - show port numbers

2007-12-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 21:45:37 Dec 02, Henning Brauer wrote: * MikeM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-02 15:35]: When I run the command pfctl -sr a list of the rules is displayed, a sample line is below. pass in log quick on fxp0 inet proto tcp from 226.174.167.164 to (fxp0) port = smtp flags S/FSRA

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread RW
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:48:42 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 03:48:14PM -0700, Darren Spruell wrote: On Dec 2, 2007 2:21 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 12:56:11PM -0700, Anthony Roberts wrote: I have seen several installations of

Re: IPSEC bridge and pf

2007-12-02 Thread Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 19:08 -0500, tim wrote: my current pf configuration and add the use of the IPSEC bridge to that set up. Just check tcpdump -vvv -n -s 192 -i pflog0. Probably pass quick proto ipencap all etc.

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Damien Miller
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Why is everyone trying to come up with a solution to a problem that doesn't exist? The 'problem' is a piece of software installed on the box that some of us don't use. It takes up space (how much?). Each MTA has its champions and its

Re: This list: CC and TO fields

2007-12-02 Thread L
Nick Holland wrote: L wrote: On my mailing lists that I manage I always turn this option off.. so that anyone who replies to the list only replies to the list but not the actual person too. Not a big deal, just wondering if this is by design and on purpose Sometimes, people WISH to

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 13:31:27 Dec 03, RW wrote: Forget it. No, I'm not ordering you to. It's a tip. Given that the developers are ignoring this thread, my guess is that nothing is going to happen. It's all been said before. Not true. They just don't have the time. BTW I run or admin several mailservers. I

Re: License Violation - ksh

2007-12-02 Thread David H. Lynch Jr.
Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 04:05:10PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: There are other sources as well: http://www.peereboom.us/ksh_linux.html http://www.wormhole.hu/~ice/ksh/ Don't know why that dude went through the trouble of putting gplv3 shit on it. fear,

Re: removing sendmail

2007-12-02 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On Nov 30, 2007 4:32 PM, Liviu Daia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 November 2007, Amarendra Godbole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please note that postfix does not undergo the rigorous code scrub that sendmail goes through. [...] Will you please cut the crap? Thank you. Unlike

Re: xorgcfg(1) missing on i386 snapshot 26-NOV-2007

2007-12-02 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Nov 28, 2007 5:16 PM, Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, the 26-NOV-2007 snapshot seems to be missing xorgcfg(1). I installed all distribution sets. Has it been deprecated? Yes. It has been deprecated in xserver 1.4. No one has maintained and updated it for the various