Re: What happened with MySQL server on amd64 ?

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 03:33:41PM +0100, Dusan Sukovic wrote: Hvad happened with MySQL server ? Can't find port or install package on 5.8 amd64 As far as I can see it, it was in 5.6 amd64. Replaced with MariaDB. -- Tati Chevron Perl and FORTRAN specialist. SWABSIT development and migration

Re: python uwsgi port/package

2015-12-22 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 07:22:27PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2015-12-02, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > > > > Thanks for any information, > > I made a start at a port, I was going to use it for something but it > didn't happen in the end so I left it in openbsd-wip

build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Frank White
I want build a router/modem with openbsd. My is that I don't want anykind of linux code around. I don't have any problems to build a router, my problem is to have a modem without any linux firmware. Anyone know if there are any pure modem to use it ? Or any chip I can connect on any "itx or what u

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Read, James C
>The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, >doubt what you do, refractor. Simple in concept, but it takes a lot >of time. >Therefore I am looking forward to seeing what you and James can do. >How long do you think it will take you? Can we expect to see working >code

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 07:32:57PM +, Frank White wrote: Hi, Yes I am sorry, I want build a small embedded system with openbsd to connect a lan to an adsl line. I want all the devices with openbsd, included the adsl modem. So the embedded system must have one or more ethernet nic and a

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Shady
> On Dec 22, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Frank White wrote: > > Hi, > Yes I am sorry, I want build a small embedded system with openbsd to > connect a lan to an adsl line. I want all the devices with openbsd, > included the adsl modem. So the embedded system must have one or more >

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 08:35:39PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: So the average person installing OpenBSD with, 'full disk encryption', is gaining virtually nothing by doing that, that they couldn't do by installing the system on an unencrypted partition and using a softraid volume for their own

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> But I still maintain that putting an option in the installer to create > softraid crypto volumes automatically just dumbs down OpenBSD > unnecessarily, and encourages people to be lazy instead of learning how > to use the system to it's full potential. It's great that you have an opinion.

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> >The OpenBSD process is quite well understood. Use the best methods, > >doubt what you do, refractor. Simple in concept, but it takes a lot > >of time. > > >Therefore I am looking forward to seeing what you and James can do. > > >How long do you think it will take you? Can we expect to see

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Frank White
ok, well the only way to not use any linux based bridged adsl modem is try to find a pci modem supported by opensbd ? I connect the pci modem to the soekris device and that's all ? so the problem is find a supported pci modem.. 2015-12-22 19:55 GMT+00:00 Shady : > >> On

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Joost Runsink
Some modem (Draytek comes to mind) allow you to set the modem in bridge mode. At that point it is a atm to ethernet converter. Have a look at Soekris and Alixboard, used a lot for this exact task. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 07:32:57PM +, Frank White wrote: > Hi, > Yes I am sorry, I want build a

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Frank White
oh thank u very much, I think it's exactly what I am looking for. 2015-12-22 20:05 GMT+00:00 Joost Runsink : > Some modem (Draytek comes to mind) allow you to set the modem in bridge > mode. At that point it is a atm to ethernet converter. Have a look at > Soekris and

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Ted Unangst
Tati Chevron wrote: > I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty installing > a recent OpenBSD system on an encrypted partition. > > Assuming amd64 or i386: > > Basically, you boot bsd.rd as normal, and drop to a shell. Which nobody does for an otherwise normal install.

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 06:45:04PM +, Frank White wrote: I want build a router/modem with openbsd. My is that I don't want anykind of linux code around. I don't have any problems to build a router, my problem is to have a modem without any linux firmware. Anyone know if there are any pure

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:20:16PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:36:38 -0500 "Ted Unangst" Tati Chevron wrote: > I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty installing > a recent OpenBSD system on an encrypted partition. > >

Re: Progress on adding support for Perle Speed8 LE

2015-12-22 Thread Jordon
> On Dec 22, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2015-12-22, Jordon > wrote: >> I have actually made some progress on this serial port card! I looked at how >> FreeBSD has it configured, tried to map the values

RackTables

2015-12-22 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Hi Misc, I am trying to deploy www/racktables with httpd (from the base). I am following 5.8 stable # uname -a OpenBSD oko.bagdala2.net 5.8 GENERIC.MP#2 amd64 httpd tested with static files OK httpd tested with PHP 5.6.11 php_fpm OK PmWiki works like a charm mysqld configured for chroot and

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-22, Joost Runsink wrote: > Some modem (Draytek comes to mind) allow you to set the modem in bridge > mode. At that point it is a atm to ethernet converter. Have a look at > Soekris and Alixboard, used a lot for this exact task. You can avoid Linux with this

Re: Boot loader uses INT 13h [WAS BIOS call fallback]

2015-12-22 Thread Dragos Ruiu
Ok let me short circuit this meta discussion by saying that AFAIK now that the new Intel Skylake chips fixed many virtualization bugs and it's possible to efficiently nest VMs there might not be a way to discover if you are running on bare metal. I too would find it useful to be able to lock a

Re: Progress on adding support for Perle Speed8 LE

2015-12-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-22, Jordon wrote: > I have actually made some progress on this serial port card! I looked at how > FreeBSD has it configured, tried to map the values to the OpenBSD struct, and > actually got something working! > > > > I added the following to pcidevs: > > vendor

Re: Boot loader uses INT 13h [WAS BIOS call fallback]

2015-12-22 Thread Read, James C
>> a security consideration, as far as I can see the bootloader loads using INT >> 13h calls. How can the kernel be sure it is really operating in ring 0 and not >> in some VM given that this is the case? >Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick. On the assumption that you are not

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread Frank White
Hi, Yes I am sorry, I want build a small embedded system with openbsd to connect a lan to an adsl line. I want all the devices with openbsd, included the adsl modem. So the embedded system must have one or more ethernet nic and a modem. 2015-12-22 19:08 GMT+00:00 Tati Chevron

Re: Boot loader uses INT 13h [WAS BIOS call fallback]

2015-12-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> >> a security consideration, as far as I can see the bootloader loads using= > INT > >> 13h calls. How can the kernel be sure it is really operating in ring 0 a= > nd not > >> in some VM given that this is the case? > > >Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick. > > On the

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 01:36:38PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: Tati Chevron wrote: I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty installing a recent OpenBSD system on an encrypted partition. Assuming amd64 or i386: Basically, you boot bsd.rd as normal, and drop to a shell.

Re: APU-2: Changing Installer Image

2015-12-22 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Kapfhammer, Stefan [sk...@skapf.de] wrote: > Hello, > > I want to install OpenBSD 5.8 on an APU-2 board with a mSATA SSD installed. > > I have to redirect the output to serial console with a change in > /etc/boot.conf (2 lines) > > How do I write the change to a USB-Stick, so that the

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 02:00:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: But I still maintain that putting an option in the installer to create softraid crypto volumes automatically just dumbs down OpenBSD unnecessarily, and encourages people to be lazy instead of learning how to use the system to it's

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 02:00:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >> But I still maintain that putting an option in the installer to create > >> softraid crypto volumes automatically just dumbs down OpenBSD > >> unnecessarily, and encourages people to be lazy instead of learning how > >> to use

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 09:57:46PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 02:00:26PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>But I still maintain that putting an option in the installer to create > >>softraid crypto volumes automatically just dumbs down OpenBSD > >>unnecessarily, and

How be possible program and use software and hardware that no include non-free firmware can contain backdoors, blobs and all other evils that are include in software and hardware that no are really no

2015-12-22 Thread françai s
I deleted my account OpenBSD Nabble to do more research, know what I am doing for non make people mad. Please I ask that excuse me because I have posted on OpenBSD lists and other lists that made people mad. I ask this because I probably be in future a good programmer famous and I do not want to

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:36:38 -0500 "Ted Unangst" > Tati Chevron wrote: > > I have never understood exactly why people have so much difficulty > > installing > > a recent OpenBSD system on an encrypted partition. > > > > Basically, you boot bsd.rd as normal, and drop to a

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread torsten
A quick question, how do these boards with Intel atom CPU's cope with gigabit traffic and sslVPN. I love the look of them. I use the Supermicro Intel i3/E3 midi boards with add-on NIC's at the moment >oh thank u very much, I think it's exactly what I am looking for. 2015-12-22 20:05 GMT+00:00

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:03:09 -0600 Luke Small > I don't need a special need case. Your own use case is deviating from the minimum required to install the system in a supported by the installer way. And yes, you don't need a special "need" case (giggling). > I have already

Re: build an openbsd router/modem

2015-12-22 Thread mark hellewell
On 23 December 2015 at 06:32, Frank White wrote: > Hi, > Yes I am sorry, I want build a small embedded system with openbsd to > connect a lan to an adsl line. I want all the devices with openbsd, > included the adsl modem. So the embedded system must have one or more >

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:40:48 -0600 Luke Small > You are a normal user and have full disk encryption. You must have read the > man page on how to do that? Found the installer option did you. We're obviously missing your quick program you promised us for the installer. Why this

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:35:39 + Tati Chevron > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:20:16PM +0200, li...@wrant.com wrote: > >Tue, 22 Dec 2015 13:36:38 -0500 "Ted Unangst" > >> Tati Chevron wrote: > >> > I have never understood exactly why people have so much

Re: (pretty trivial) FAQ 4 diff suggestions

2015-12-22 Thread Michael McConville
ropers wrote: > Feel free to reject the below without comment if these changes are not > deemed improvements: Thanks! I just incorporated a couple of these. I'll look through the rest soon. > --- faq4.html.orig2015-12-20 21:56:34.565914000 +0100 > +++ faq4.html2015-12-21

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread lists
Whatever the encryption or other stake raising argument is found today or in the future, the point is, deviation from line oriented interfaces for the installer is not the way it can be handled by other systems, meaning it's not the least common denominator that lends itself to machine processing

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Luke Small
Ha Ha. I got Theo to call me a whiny prick! I'm getting the t-shirt. >You play absolutely no part in the decisions that got OpenBSD to where it is. At least somebody is listening, even if they are ignoring everything. What point is there to having an automated machine, when you have to do

Re: Progress on adding support for Perle Speed8 LE

2015-12-22 Thread Jordon
> On Dec 22, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Can you send me a pcidump -v? > > Look for > >0x002c: Subsystem Vendor ID: Product ID: > > in those listings, and try adding those to your table in the > right place, rather than 0x with a

Re: WTMP Question

2015-12-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-21, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:37:30 -0800 > Philip Guenther wrote: >> Well, you apparently know that the data comes from /var/log/wtmp, so >> what's the status of that file? It should be a normal file of >>

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 06:40:48PM -0600, Luke Small wrote: You are a normal user and have full disk encryption. You must have read the man page on how to do that? Found the installer option did you. I have read several books on openbsd and all the man pages I could find and didn't find out how

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread Christoph R. Murauer
> You are a normal user and have full disk encryption. You must have > read the man page on how to do that? I was curious and asked my favourite search engine for *openbsd full disc encryption* and got results like http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/fde, readed them and found the needed commands.

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Gareth Nelson
Oh, don't get me wrong - that was just an idle thinking out loud "what if?" Rather than a serious proposal. On 22 Dec 2015 2:05 am, "Theo de Raadt" wrote: > > > To be fair, i'd love to see the OpenBSD approach to software development > > applied to BIOS/EFI firmware. > >

Re: WTMP Question

2015-12-22 Thread Otto Moerbeek
hOn Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:26:33AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2015-12-21, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:37:30 -0800 > > Philip Guenther wrote: > >> Well, you apparently know that the data comes from /var/log/wtmp,

Re: Doing NAT after divert-packet rule

2015-12-22 Thread C.L. Martinez
On 12/18/2015 10:17 AM, C.L. Martinez wrote: Hi all, This post is related to this one: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc=145017155902016=2. After doing a lot of tests, I have arrived to a satisfactory situation. At this moment, my divert-packet rules works (for all protocols without

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Read, James C
>I guess in the absence of a seriously thought out wish list such a project could be open ended. >The more care spent in hardware design choices I guess the more likely we could avoid the mess >that various legacies have caused. Here's a suggestion for a community that is base around the claim of

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:19:01AM +, Read, James C wrote: I guess in the absence of a seriously thought out wish list such a project could be open ended. >The more care spent in hardware design choices I guess the more likely we could avoid the mess >that various legacies have caused.

Re: BIOS call fallback

2015-12-22 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:19:01AM +, Read, James C wrote: I guess in the absence of a seriously thought out wish list such a project could be open ended. >The more care spent in hardware design choices I guess the more likely we could avoid the mess >that various legacies have caused.

Re: text-mode gui

2015-12-22 Thread frcc
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:04:28AM +0100, Christoph R. Murauer wrote: > > You are a normal user and have full disk encryption. You must have > > read the man page on how to do that? > > I was curious and asked my favourite search engine for *openbsd full > disc encryption* and got results like >

APU-2: Changing Installer Image

2015-12-22 Thread Kapfhammer, Stefan
Hello, I want to install OpenBSD 5.8 on an APU-2 board with a mSATA SSD installed. I have to redirect the output to serial console with a change in /etc/boot.conf (2 lines) How do I write the change to a USB-Stick, so that the installer boots from the APU? Or is there a better way to install

What happened with MySQL server on amd64 ?

2015-12-22 Thread Dusan Sukovic
Hvad happened with MySQL server ? Can't find port or install package on 5.8 amd64 As far as I can see it, it was in 5.6 amd64. # uname -a OpenBSD lenovo.lan 5.8 GENERIC.MP#1236 amd64 pkg_add -i mysql-server quirks-2.114 signed on 2015-08-09T11:57:52Z Can't find mysql-server Thanks, Dusan

Re: Boot loader uses INT 13h [WAS BIOS call fallback]

2015-12-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> a security consideration, as far as I can see the bootloader loads using INT > 13h calls. How can the kernel be sure it is really operating in ring 0 and not > in some VM given that this is the case? Hey, it looks like you are just trying to be a dick. Does your mother know?

Boot loader uses INT 13h [WAS BIOS call fallback]

2015-12-22 Thread Read, James C
Hi, a security consideration, as far as I can see the bootloader loads using INT 13h calls. How can the kernel be sure it is really operating in ring 0 and not in some VM given that this is the case?