On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 07:45:58AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
Ufff, did you read link which I send before?
http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/embedded/
Because there is everything described including mounting fs ro,
install and so on.
It's giving bad advices.
You can setup a soekris using a
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 07:45:58AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
Ufff, did you read link which I send before?
http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/embedded/
Because there is everything described including mounting fs ro,
install and so on.
It's giving bad advices.
You can setup a soekris
* Anthony Roberts openbsd-mi...@arbitraryconstant.com [2009-12-16 07:45]:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:15:25 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the manufacturers point out, 10,000 write cycles (basically the
minimum) means you can overwrite the flash once per day for 27 years.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 09:49:38AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Anthony Roberts openbsd-mi...@arbitraryconstant.com [2009-12-16 07:45]:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:15:25 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the manufacturers point out, 10,000 write cycles (basically the
http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/embedded/
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
I am trying to put OpenBSD on some Soekris machines. I have looked around
and fount the flashrd toolkit. Uinsg it, I was able to create a bootable
compact flash image for one of the
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:25:50AM -0500, stan wrote:
I am trying to put OpenBSD on some Soekris machines. I have looked around
and fount the flashrd toolkit. Uinsg it, I was able to create a bootable
compact flash image for one of the machines. However, I pretty much did it
by following the
I've been playing around with this lately, so I'm happy to have a stab
at an answer, with the caveat that this reflects a recollection of my
reading of the code rather than any attempt to make it work to your
requirements. Whatever I may fail to clarify, recall, or understand is
best taken
Joachim Schipper wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:25:50AM -0500, stan wrote:
I am trying to put OpenBSD on some Soekris machines. I have looked around
and fount the flashrd toolkit. Uinsg it, I was able to create a bootable
compact flash image for one of the machines. However, I pretty much
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:32:44PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
Just yesterday, I inquired about small CF media. Smallest my local
computer superstore had was...4G. 4G!!
Want a smaller one? I've a (4 years old) 256MB media in my soekris
and I'd exchange it for the 4GB one ;-)
Oh, and for the
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:32:44PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
Joachim Schipper wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:25:50AM -0500, stan wrote:
I am trying to put OpenBSD on some Soekris machines. I have looked around
and fount the flashrd toolkit. Uinsg it, I was able to create a bootable
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 02:51:08PM -0500, stan wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:32:44PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
Joachim Schipper wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:25:50AM -0500, stan wrote:
snip
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of the features of the system I chose was that it mounts
the flas RO, and uses memory filesystems for volatile stuff. Is this no
longer important? I
In http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126090233628943w=1
Nick Holland gave a bunch of excellent reasons to just do a standard
install on a cheap compact-flash (CF) card. Another point... with
today's compact flash cards, you may well be able to simply ignore
the issue of
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Thornburg
jth...@astro.indiana.edu wrote:
In http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126090233628943w=1
Nick Holland gave a bunch of excellent reasons to just do a standard
install on a cheap compact-flash (CF) card. Another point... with
today's compact
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:51 AM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of the features of the system I chose was that it mounts
the flas RO, and uses memory filesystems for volatile stuff. Is this no
longer important? I
Jonathan Thornburg jth...@astro.indiana.edu wrote:
For example, 2 years ago I set up a home firewall using a 1GB
Kingston CF card. For precisely the reasons Nick Holland outlined,
I used a standard OpenBSD install (done by plugging the CF card into
a USB-to-CF adaptor and then connecting the
stan st...@panix.com wrote:
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of the features of the system I chose was that it mounts
the flas RO, and uses memory filesystems for volatile stuff. Is this no
longer important?
The only point of mounting
Aaron Mason wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:51 AM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of the features of the system I chose was that it mounts
the flas RO, and uses memory filesystems for volatile stuff. Is this no
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
Being that I don't suggest that people use mysterious commands they
get off the Internet without fully understanding how they work,
here's an alternative way that I think will help
Try this:
10) # insert CF card
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:35:32 + (UTC), Christian Weisgerber wrote:
I'm sure that original CF card would *eventually* fail if I kept it in
service long enough...
Or some other hardware component. Or more likely, the whole system
becomes obsolete first.
Absolutely!
I have a Soekris 4801
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
Aaron Mason wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:51 AM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
OK with one resevation you have convinced me. Let's eliminate teh
reservation. One of the features of the system I chose was that it
On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:35:32 + (UTC), Christian Weisgerber wrote:
I'm sure that original CF card would *eventually* fail if I kept
it in
service long enough...
Or some other hardware component. Or more likely,
On 12/15/2009 03:50 PM, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
For example, 2 years ago I set up a home firewall using a 1GB
Kingston CF card. For precisely the reasons Nick Holland outlined,
I used a standard OpenBSD install (done by plugging the CF card into
a USB-to-CF adaptor and then connecting the USB
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:06:43 -0600, Matt Bettinger wrote:
Pxeboot bsd.rd seems most straightforward without having to mess with
trying to close their stupid cases.
www.yawarra.com.au has unstupid cases. They are what I use.
I have no beneficial interest in the company, I just hope they
Nick Holland wrote:
...
second, I have no idea how to boot a Soekris box from install media. There
is no floppy, no CD... how do I acomplish this?
...
faq14.html has a lot of info about flash drives, both as data and
boot media.
I sat down to add something to the FAQ about installing to
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:15:25 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the manufacturers point out, 10,000 write cycles (basically the
minimum) means you can overwrite the flash once per day for 27 years.
That's a lot of IO for a soekris.
It's possible to kill CF cards doing builds or
Ufff, did you read link which I send before?
http://www.kernel-panic.it/openbsd/embedded/
Because there is everything described including mounting fs ro,
install and so on.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:51 PM, stan st...@panix.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:32:44PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:15:25 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the manufacturers point out, 10,000 write cycles (basically the
minimum) means you can overwrite the flash once per day for 27 years.
That's a lot of IO for a soekris.
It's possible to kill CF cards doing
i havent been using flash media as long as theo, but i will second this.
i also figure it is cheaper for me to replace the media if it fails =
(which hasnt happened yet) than spend the time tweaking the install to =
not write to the media much. same applies to cutting the install down to =
On 16/12/2009, at 4:50 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:15:25 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the manufacturers point out, 10,000 write cycles (basically the
minimum) means you can overwrite the flash once per day for 27 years.
That's a lot of IO for a
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