Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-25 Thread Артур Истомин
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 04:54:55PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: Em 18-03-2014 15:56, Kevin Chadwick escreveu: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:23:12 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: It's perfectly useful, mail is only dropped by some idiotic systems (already mentioned) that don't understand

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-24 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 21-03-2014 21:48, Stuart Henderson escreveu: On 2014-03-19, Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 19-03-2014 09:41, Stuart Henderson escreveu: you have more trust in ISP DNS servers honouring TTLs than I do. if you can only get a dynamic IP at home and would like to host mail

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-03-19, Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: Em 19-03-2014 09:41, Stuart Henderson escreveu: you have more trust in ISP DNS servers honouring TTLs than I do. if you can only get a dynamic IP at home and would like to host mail there yourself, in a machine which only you have

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-03-18, Craig R. Skinner skin...@britvault.co.uk wrote: On 2014-03-17 Mon 20:25 PM |, Jean-Francois Simon wrote: Just to mention, I'm looking for a more private ESP. As I know that OpenBSD conveys an idea of security, I tend to trust a provider relying on this OS. If you want to

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-19 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-03-18, Giancarlo Razzolini grazzol...@gmail.com wrote: But, with a very small ttl on the dns record (I use 60 seconds), this risk can be reduced. you have more trust in ISP DNS servers honouring TTLs than I do. if you can only get a dynamic IP

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-19 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 19-03-2014 09:41, Stuart Henderson escreveu: you have more trust in ISP DNS servers honouring TTLs than I do. if you can only get a dynamic IP at home and would like to host mail there yourself, in a machine which only you have physical access to, etc. (i.e. do *not* want to keep your email

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Jay Patel
If you are already using your own email server, use it with OpenBSD it will be best and if you are looking into GUI for openbsd or simple solution check out http://gayatri-hitech.com/all-products/mailpigeon/ Thanks, Jay On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Zé Loff
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:02:00PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: The last time I checked (and it was a long time ago), GMail rewrote either the sender or the reply-to address with the one you use to authenticate the connection. Again, it might not be true now, but it has happened to me in

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2014-03-17, Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: Just to mention, I'm looking for a more private ESP. As I know that OpenBSD conveys an idea of security, I tend to trust a provider relying on this OS. conveys an idea of security won't help you if the provider uses bad mail

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Jean-Philippe Ouellet contributed: Also, absolutely sure privacy is totally respected??? Let me know when you find a jurisdiction in which you can reasonably expect that to even be possible to begin with. Yeah, I believe you have to pin STARTTLS for each host manually

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Craig R. Skinner
On 2014-03-17 Mon 20:25 PM |, Jean-Francois Simon wrote: Just to mention, I'm looking for a more private ESP. As I know that OpenBSD conveys an idea of security, I tend to trust a provider relying on this OS. If you want to read documentation, become your own mail provider using OpenBSD.

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread James Shupe
On 3/15/2014 11:54 AM, Jean-Francois Simon wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a secure mail provider, i fpossible using OpenBSD, also wondering if OpenBSD itself provides it for interested people. If anybody has informations thanks would be interesting to share. Regards Jeff Get an

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 18-03-2014 09:44, Kevin Chadwick escreveu: previously on this list Jean-Philippe Ouellet contributed: Also, absolutely sure privacy is totally respected??? Let me know when you find a jurisdiction in which you can reasonably expect that to even be possible to begin with. Yeah, I believe

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Jan Stary
I'm looking for a more private ESP. Personally, I am also fed up with people interfering with my earthquake precognitions.

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:23:12 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: A static IP address without a meaningful reverse name mapping such as mail.myopenbsdhomeserver.com isn't very useful. Most ISP's wont do reverse mappings or will charge your eyeballs for it. It's perfectly useful, mail is only

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 18-03-2014 15:56, Kevin Chadwick escreveu: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:23:12 -0300 Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: It's perfectly useful, mail is only dropped by some idiotic systems (already mentioned) that don't understand or care about more effective anti spam methods or the little guy and when

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:23, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: anything these days using dynamic ip addresses. If your IP address changes you will stay a few seconds without receiving any mail, and also may have some mail delayed, but you shouldn't lose anything. And you can Unless of course the

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-18 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 18-03-2014 18:18, Ted Unangst escreveu: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:23, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: anything these days using dynamic ip addresses. If your IP address changes you will stay a few seconds without receiving any mail, and also may have some mail delayed, but you shouldn't lose

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Jean-Francois Simon
Hello Some answers in your mail. Thanks. Just to mention, I'm looking for a more private ESP. As I know that OpenBSD conveys an idea of security, I tend to trust a provider relying on this OS. Regards Le 17/03/2014 02:51, Jean-Philippe Ouellet a écrit : On 3/15/14 12:54 PM, Jean-Francois

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
[1] https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/ [2] https://github.com/agl/pond If you want absolute privacy, don't use computers. If you want to get things done, keep your gmail. If you want to read documentation, become your own mail provider using OpenBSD. No I don't need absolute privacy about this

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Zé Loff
On 17/03/2014, at 20:21, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote: [1] https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/ [2] https://github.com/agl/pond If you want absolute privacy, don't use computers. If you want to get things done, keep your gmail. If you want to read documentation, become your own mail

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On 3/17/14 3:25 PM, Jean-Francois Simon wrote: Just to mention, I'm looking for a more private ESP. As I know that OpenBSD conveys an idea of security, I tend to trust a provider relying on this OS. Not necessarily a safe assumption. I'm also using own server today, essentially, I have'nt

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
The last time I checked (and it was a long time ago), GMail rewrote either the sender or the reply-to address with the one you use to authenticate the connection. Again, it might not be true now, but it has happened to me in the past. Look to me that you should do some research before

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-17 Thread Daniel Ouellet
I think this give you plenty of example to do what you are asking about: https://www.google.com/search?q=gmail+relay+emailie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=sb On 3/17/14, 10:02 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: The last time I checked (and it was a long time

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-16 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On 3/15/14 12:54 PM, Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a secure mail provider, i fpossible using OpenBSD, also wondering if OpenBSD itself provides it for interested people. If anybody has informations thanks would be interesting to share.

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-15 Thread Janne Johansson
2014-03-15 17:54 GMT+01:00 Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com: Hello all, also wondering if OpenBSD itself provides it for interested people. No.

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-15 Thread Michael Cornwell
I haven’t used this provider, but they use OpenBSD. http://www.neomailbox.net/ Mike On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Jean-Francois Simon jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a secure mail provider, i fpossible using OpenBSD, also wondering if OpenBSD itself provides it

Re: OpenBSD email provider

2014-03-15 Thread Łukasz Ratajski
On Saturday 15 March 2014 15:56:00 Michael Cornwell wrote: I haven’t used this provider, but they use OpenBSD. http://www.neomailbox.net/ Mike You might as well check out BSWS. http://www.bsws.de/en Available in English and German, with a variety of services. Speaking from experience (MX