-dispatch_index() (or if you want to be microsoftian,
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won't always be calling Foo, but also Foo::Bar::Blarg?
That makes sense...
Go for it. With this module its not like you have to hack the config files
very often anyway!
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by just ignoring those errors.
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it according to Ilya. I don't think there _is_ a better way - tie
is a very specific requirement, and usually its "fast enough". Remember
that STDOUT is tied to the request object in mod_perl...
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into Apache::ASP XML
processor. I thought about coding it up, but never got the time.
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I can't access my normal email from home, so forgive
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the way I set it up, when running in DispatchMode =
Safe (the default, which I didn't mention in the
docs), you wouldn't be able to call
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Sablotron isn't as close to the complete XSLT spec
as transformix, AFAIK).
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on it in the TPC proceedings).
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Ime Smits wrote:
In short, I have the following in mind and partially worked out in actual
code. A package VBScript::Parser which offers:
$parser=new VBScript::Parser
offers the guarantee that no other
element will get that same style. It may seem like a small functionality,
but it still conflicts with HTML+CSS, which I don't like the sound of.
I'm assuming the ID values are passed through to the output.
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e extra 10 percent
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portion of the overall problem. You may benchmark reading in _and_ parsing
the template all you like, but ultimately people's web serving bottlenecks
are generally database access and network latency.
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worked out the templating system for you. They call it
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I think the forward pipeline
processing makes more sense. I'm certainly not suggesting any increase in
speed from the forward processing methodology.
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rocessor machines but automatically
configures itself to use operating system read on multi-CPU machines so
as to reduce shared memory contention."
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something in the docs.
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e can do X too, and optionally Y". Eventually you'll get
the perfect document...
However I suggest taking that stage off the list, and just let them send
patches direct to you, and announce when you've got a new version. A-la
guide. In fact it might be a nice addition to the guide. (here I am mak
ome stupid patent on it (doubtful since its GPL'd).
Can you wait, or do you need something now?
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::ASP
HTML::Template
XSLT
XPathScript (part of AxKit, which can also do XSLT)
Mason
I've probably offended some people by ommiting some :-)
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the red (assuming you aren't using
Netscape's
broken CSS). But how could you force one cell to get the yellow?
The normal way to do it would be
TD ID="oneTD" but you have already used up your ID tag.
Tell me if I am missing something.
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), and the problem is that ASP is parsed by
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ost people haven't heard of is
mediasurface. Their whole system is just a perl httpd server. And I've
heard that Vignette is written in Perl (or was).
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Python has Zope?
As I said to people at TPC: Come to ApacheCon Europe, I'll have something
to show you then (hopefully).
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arts (the plain HTML bits) and
%= ... % delimited parts. Then you end up with a single script in either
Perl or VB. Then you pass it to the translate() method, which in perl is
simply sub { return shift; }, and in VB does all the work, using a generic
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"scope" in ASP terms, but inside the scope in VB terms. Might work if its
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isn't validating, I can extend HTML with tags like
NODE, BANNER, and WHATEVER, right?
Pant, pant.
Aside from the GPL, it does looks nice.
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technology, and he could really use my XML stuff. So maybe something will
come of that, who knows. Sadly we didn't really have enough time to talk
it through. [Jonathan; are you coming to ApacheCon Europe? Maybe we can
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
http://www.best.com/~pjl/software/html_tree/
Aside from the GPL, it does looks nice.
What's wrong with the GPL? It's open-source and free of cost.
What more do you want
Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more
sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a
default mod_perl and who don't have Apache::Log).
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"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS Why can't we make EVERYTHING=1 the default? It just seems so much more
MS sensible to me... (I get a lot of problems with people having compiled a
MS default mod_perl and who don't have A
erday, and he's
moving back to Perl development after developing PHP's most significant
XML project (meerkat) because of the tools available under perl.
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PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not
like each other when loaded as DSOs).
Has anyone figured out why that is yet?
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are web
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A common misconception though.
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, martin langhoff wrote:
Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PHP does not require mod_perl. They are completely seperate (and often do not
like each other when loaded as DSOs).
Has anyone figured out why that is yet
ver thrown a party with an open bar, have you? ;-)
/me appologises for the 8 beers and 4 whiskeys that he consumed, and
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Joshua Chamas wrote:
Like Matt suggested you can start with his simple vbscript to
perlscript converter, but I would recommend to do a really
complete job that you use a full on grammar and something
like Parse::Yapp to do the parse tree. I personally would
find
spend time with, both in
and outside of conference hours. Think of it as a holiday where you learn
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
I've put my report on the OSS/Perl conference online for all to
see. Hopefully you'll find it vaguely interesting in parts. Its at
http://modperl.sergeant.org/oss-conf-report.txt
"On Wednes
for www.perl.com - assuming they'll be running
the same sort of thing as they did for YAPC.
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understand it, ASP is M$'s
version of VB that runs in a way similar to how php does? Is ASP a
language or ... ? Does Apache::ASP support the vb syntax ?
ASP is a cross platform API, not a language. Apache::ASP implements the
API that ActiveState's PerlScript and MKS' PScript implements.
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ction-user($username);
return OK;
} else {
# Otherwise return AUTH_REQUIRED
return AUTH_REQUIRED;
}
}
- Matt
McGarrets above Taco Bell in Monterey, watching Stas' dancing skills
(hidden talents), and Doug's pulling skills (not so hidden talents) ;-)
Matt.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Kevin Reichard wrote:
Stas' dancing skills? Any pix? ;)
God I hope so!
I think Ask managed to miss him, but Victor took some video (can you mpeg
that Victor?) and some snaps for certain.
Matt.
t's across the
street from 8:30pm onward, sponsored by Stonehenge. Free drinks,
dancing, pool, until they kick us out!
Does anyone know if all the events will be in the program, or should I
start making entries in my palm pilot?
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"MS" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MS Does anyone know if all the events will be in the program, or should I
MS start making entries in my palm pilot?
I started to do that, then realized that I don't have a
??
Apache-request-internal_redirect(url);
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case I highly
suggest you check out AxKit or Mason, which both support this kind of
caching (and EmbPerl is going to do it in the next release I hear).
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=1
PREP_HTTPD=1
USE_DSO=1
PERL_DEBUG=1
PERL_TRACE=1
Next question, did you "use Apache::Log;" ?
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on this
project.
Please send applications direct to me, preferably with cv/resume in PLAIN
TEXT format, along with a brief summary of who you are, what you've been
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an alternative method.
Yes, use a PerlFixupHandler instead of DirectoryIndex. This use of a fixup
handler is detailed in the Eagle book.
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ile too and ended up just stopping as I wasn't
actually leaking any memory, despite what Devel::Leak tried to tell
me. (this wasn't a mod_perl module though - just ordinary perl).
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- What should the configuration API look like?
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evidence either way?
I doubt you'll find evidence, just some hand waving. If you know what
you're doing, use lexicals and don't worry about initialization. If you
don't know what you're doing, initialize.
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whose value is
undef, which is a perfectly legitimate and time-honored tradition in
perl.
A lot of people create a $SIG{__WARN__} block to catch those warnings. In
fact that's pretty much the only use of $SIG{__WARN__} I've ever seen ;-)
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r value, rather than the old C method of a list of variable
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depends on your system's C library. Older systems still use 56-bit DES.
Newer ones may use something stronger like MD5 or Blowfish. See your crypt(3)
manpage and `perldoc -f crypt` for more information.
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is taken care of, as is
dynamic content (using XSP) and database queries (using the XSP SQL
taglib).
Take a look - hopefully you'll be impressed ;-)
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very
hit). Not exactly blazing, but fast enough for a lot of uses.
And don't be put off by the verbosity - all this can be modularised in
external entities and/or taglibs.
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box-out is done using RSS, and is automatically updated. Thought
people might like to know.
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needs someone to
write that code for PerlAddVar/PerlSetVar.
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Rick Myers wrote:
On Jul 04, 2000 at 14:40:26 +0100, Matt Sergeant twiddled the keys to say:
Shouldn't DIR_MERGE be called when .htaccess files are found at different
levels, e.g:
/axkit/.htaccess
and
/axkit/test/.htaccess
I ask for /axkit/test/test.xsp
something, or is
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media plugin (the UA substrings are taken
from the WAP FAQ which I periodically check and update):
# $Id: WAPCheck.pm,v 1.2 2000/05/02 10:32:07 matt Exp $
package Apache::AxKit::MediaChooser::WAPCheck;
use strict;
use Apache::Constants;
sub handler {
my $r = shift;
my $type;
that. Am I missing
some documentation somewhere?
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Dan Rench wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Edwin Pratomo wrote:
how to get configuration values at run-time, such as DirectoryIndex?
I don't think you can - that configuration directive is specific to
mod_index
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Is there any way I can write RAW_ARGS config directives like:
AxMedia screen
...
/AxMedia
And have the bit between the tags passed through to apache for processing?
The eagle book only
close your filehandles anyway though for
the sake of cleanliness and not leaving around locks, but my point was
merely the necessity of it).
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charset problem...)
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ApacheAPI
in their servers - I'm trying to persuade my boss to add it to WebSite
Pro, for starters). mod_perl is great for advanced web site
builders. Velocigen is great for drop-in performance enhancement with lots
of stuff PHB's like. Use what works for you.
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quot; from httpd.conf, then it works...
mod_perl's symbols may have changed with the re-build, so you'll probably
have to completely re-compile AxKit. If thats not the problem I'm
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-down because
of the Perl - XS interface, and passing strings across it (although IIRC
Ilya did some work on that for perl 5.6).
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" - it can mean "Linux + ithreads" or
"Linux + usemymalloc" etc).
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, when
you remember that for the first half of the past year mod_perl barely
moved due to Doug's work commitments. This is going to be a tight
competition...
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There is no DOM memory garbage collection (you have to manually call
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be uploading a newer version to CPAN once I'm happy with the
examples and documentation (read: not yet). And axkit.org should come
online fairly soon once I update the documentation and things.
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Honza Pazdziora wrote:
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 02:27:45PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote:
Don't go to cpan yet - any version below 0.90 contains a deprecated
API. I'll be uploading a newer version to CPAN once I'm happy with the
examples and documentation (read
directory
#AxCacheDir /
/Location
The error should have said "handler method not found", which is referring
to the Sablot processor. I'm going to assume you don't have XML::Sablot
installed. Get it from http://www.gingerall.com/
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Richard L. Goerwitz wrote:
In response to my query about how to get a list of virtual
servers, Matt Sergeant wrote:
It's server-next():
for (my $s = Apache-server; $s; $s = $s-next()) {
print "Virtual host: ", $s-server_hostname, "\n&
"http://$server:$port/");
$r-print('variable value: ',
$subreq-dir_config('SomePerlVariable'), "\n");
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o, for mysql, you'll need
to add a keepalive routine to your startup.pl:
sub Apache::DBI::db::ping {
my $dbh = shift;
return $dbh-do('select 1');
}
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be very fast.
I think that covers most of the arguments.
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rendering
XML::XSLT has an interesting definition of realtime ;-)
I seriously suggest you check out Sablotron from www.gingerall.com - it's
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account on the machine, in which case he/she can
"upgrade" that account to root using this exploit.
Of course you should probably say "to hell with my 90+ days uptime" and
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On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
The one that bugs me is when I see people doing this:
$hash{"$key"}
instead of this:
$hash{$key}
Those two now also result in the same code. ;-)
But the former is
at once, however often these template systems use method
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Eric Cholet wrote:
This said, i hurry back to s/"constant strings"/'constant strings'/g;
Those two are equal.
Yes, although it's counter-intutive there's no real p
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t remember that $ref-[0] is
special.
Ugh. Psuedo hash references are badly broken even in 5.6. Anyone who's
done extensive work with them (or tried to) can tell you that.
Instead, write a class for your objects, and use arrays internally. Define
constants for the indexes of the arrays.
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