RE: CGI Forms Problems (Getting Old Params)

2002-09-30 Thread Narins, Josh
turday, September 28, 2002 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CGI Forms Problems (Getting Old Params) Yesterday I ported a few thousand lines of code I'd been working on over to Perl. It was quite a bit of work getting all of the strict stuff correct and then fighting with the modules-d

Re: CGI Forms Problems (Getting Old Params)

2002-09-29 Thread Ken Y. Clark
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Shannon Appelcline wrote: [snip] > I start off with a simple index.cgi that I've made extremely short to > avoid the issue of nested subroutines. It has a require: > > -- > $main::filePath = "/var/www/skotos/myskotos"; > require "${main::filePath}/modules/lib/mylib.pm"; Sh

CGI Forms Problems (Getting Old Params)

2002-09-28 Thread Shannon Appelcline
ore modularized. (Huzzah.) Unfortunately I've been continuing to have one program that I can't figure out. Somehow, my information being submitted through forms sometimes reverts to old data after I've clicked "Submit" and before it's processed. Now, I've read throug

Re: Getting ugly: mod_perl and traditional forms of writing CGI

2002-08-08 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, SS>The below is a sample bit of code I am using for very simple forum SS>software. It acts erratically, sometimes seeing the contents of the form SS>being POSTed to it and sometimes not. If a form POSTed is under 500 SS>bytes in length it works fine. Anything higher is hit and miss. SS> SS

Re: Getting ugly: mod_perl and traditional forms of writing CGI

2002-08-08 Thread sully
On 8/8/2002 at 2:44 PM Richard Dice wrote: >> So the idea when migrating from CGI to mod_perl for this most-finished > > project was: Change as little as possible. > >That's a very sound idea. But I have a question: regarding the piece of >code that you provided here, is that the original code

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms? (fwd)

2002-04-28 Thread F . Xavier Noria
On 29 Apr 2002 09:16:42 +1000 simran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Have a look at the HTML::FillInForm module as well... Yeah, thank you, I'll give it a try. I guess this is a natural candidate for an output chain, the HTML generated by two or three Apache modules will need that post-process, so

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms? (fwd)

2002-04-28 Thread simran
Have a look at the HTML::FillInForm module as well... it works wonders for me... On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 04:43, darren chamberlain wrote: > * Ken Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-26 14:33]: > > I'll throw my technique into the ring, too. I use Template Toolkit > > most of the time, and I pass

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms? (fwd)

2002-04-26 Thread darren chamberlain
* Ken Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-26 14:33]: > I'll throw my technique into the ring, too. I use Template Toolkit > most of the time, and I pass the original Apache request object back > to the template as a parameter. Then I call the "param" method to > fill in the "value" of form elemen

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms? (fwd)

2002-04-26 Thread Ken Y. Clark
Forgot to cc the list. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:35:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Y. Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: F.Xavier Noria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How to generate pre-filled forms? On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, F.Xavier Noria wrote: > Da

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread F . Xavier Noria
ry template. * One can pass an object reference to a template as long as it has a method called "param" that behaves as CGI::param(). The idea is that will be translated to $r->param('color'). * HTML::FillInForm parses an already constructed HTML page and

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 4:15 PM +0200 4/26/02, F.Xavier Noria wrote: >I am writing some modules that receive a form, process it, and return a >page that includes that very form. Is there a standard way to fill that >returned form so the user sees the same data he sent there, as CGI.pm >does? > >-- fxn > >PS: I am usin

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread Wim Kerkhoff
mentation: > Note that HTML::FillInForm is directly supported in Apache::ASP. > Other toolkits may support it as well. Embperl's automatic form fill is one of the main reasons I use it. Without a single line of perl, forms will automatically get filled in, using GET and POST arguments that

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
At Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:17:44 -0700, Paul Lindner wrote: > Note that HTML::FillInForm is directly supported in Apache::ASP. > Other toolkits may support it as well. You can get the glues for HTML::Template and TT: HTML::Template::FillInForm and Template::Plugin::FillInForm from http://bulknews.ne

Re: How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread Paul Lindner
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 04:15:52PM +0200, F.Xavier Noria wrote: > I am writing some modules that receive a form, process it, and return a > page that includes that very form. Is there a standard way to fill that > returned form so the user sees the same data he sent there, as CGI.pm > does? > > -

How to generate pre-filled forms?

2002-04-26 Thread F . Xavier Noria
I am writing some modules that receive a form, process it, and return a page that includes that very form. Is there a standard way to fill that returned form so the user sees the same data he sent there, as CGI.pm does? -- fxn PS: I am using Apache modules + HTML::Template if that matters.

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I'm curious about one thing: How easy is it to do fill-out forms > with pipelining templating systems like AxKit? I'd think that in > such cases the stylesheet would have to do so much work that it > would become, in essence, like a CGI script. Can you explain what wor

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Gerald Richter
> > > But then if you're happy with EmbPerl, why switch? > > A couple of reasons, really: > > 1) well, I actually wouldn't switch per se; people think in > different ways, and it's often useful to support (and feel > comfortable with) different development paradigms > Embperl 2.0 (sta

RE: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
> -Original Message- > From: Richard L. Goerwitz III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Is AxKit the best of the pipelining breed, though? (I personally > am finding XML to be a ghastly, ugly thing; it all started with > namespaces, which are implemented via attributes in a horribly > kludgy

Re: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
Matt Sergeant wrote: > But then if you're happy with EmbPerl, why switch? A couple of reasons, really: 1) well, I actually wouldn't switch per se; people think in different ways, and it's often useful to support (and feel comfortable with) different development paradigms 2) EmbPe

RE: HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
I tend to use PerForm for complex forms: http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/CPAN/data/AxKit-XSP-PerForm/PerForm.html Others write custom taglibs: http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/CPAN/data/AxKit/Apache/AxKit/Language/XSP/Tagli bHelper.html The general idea is that the output is an abstract

HTML forms and piplining templating systems

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Goerwitz III
;m curious about one thing: How easy is it to do fill-out forms with pipelining templating systems like AxKit? I'd think that in such cases the stylesheet would have to do so much work that it would become, in essence, like a CGI script. In other words, the neat separation between content and p

Re: [OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
Matt Sergeant wrote: > Its only insecure if you don't use sysopen($fh, $newname, O_RDWR | O_EXCL > | O_CREAT) (and then get a new filename if that failed 'cos the file > existed). Well, then at least the subroutines mkstempt and mkstemp are insecure, since they call (funny, the comment below is b

Re: [OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alexander Farber (EED) wrote: > Matt Sergeant wrote: > > Not multiple times, but let them upload and store in a temp file, which > > you can store the filename as a hidden field. Use File::MkTemp to create > > the filenames. > > Thanks for the advice, but doesn't File::MkTem

Re: [OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
Matt Sergeant wrote: > Not multiple times, but let them upload and store in a temp file, which > you can store the filename as a hidden field. Use File::MkTemp to create > the filenames. Thanks for the advice, but doesn't File::MkTemp have a race condition? The subroutine File::MkTemp::mktemp do

Re: [OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Tim Sweetman
Matt Sergeant wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alexander Farber (EED) wrote: > > > How do you handle uploading files when using multi-paged > > forms (for example entered text and a picture are previewed > > before storing into the database and special directory)? >

Re: [OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Alexander Farber (EED) wrote: > How do you handle uploading files when using multi-paged > forms (for example entered text and a picture are previewed > before storing into the database and special directory)? > > Uploaded files can't be passed as hidden

[OT] uploaded files and multi-paged forms

2000-10-19 Thread Alexander Farber (EED)
How do you handle uploading files when using multi-paged forms (for example entered text and a picture are previewed before storing into the database and special directory)? Uploaded files can't be passed as hidden fields, right? So do you let your users to upload the same file several time

ASP Autofill RFC [WAS Re: Sticky forms for Apache::ASP]

2000-08-24 Thread Joshua Chamas
ill functionality into Apache::ASP with the help of HTML::FillInForm, and think that the best "standardized" way would model the ASP+ method as Paul mentions below with ... At output time then the buffer will be inspected for these forms, and autofilled. Note that this will probably b

Sticky forms for Apache::ASP

2000-08-16 Thread Paul Lindner
st->Form if you wish. Then put something like this in your apache configuration: XMLSubsMatch fillin Finally, surround your forms like this: And voila, instant filled in forms.. Note that a small variation to this technique allows for ASP3.0 style evaluation of form

Forms.

2000-05-29 Thread Jason C. Leach
hi, I am interested in knowing the best way to generate forms w/ mod_perl. At the moment I use CGI.pm in combination w/ mod_perl. But I am not sure I am using it correctly or if it's the best way. Perhaps I should just use a HTML::Template? Here is a bit of the output code from my pr

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-24 Thread Peter Haworth
Vivek Khera wrote: > > "PH" == Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> > >> HTML::Form? :) > > PH> Well, duh! Why didn't I think of that? Unfortunately though, > PH> HTML::Form already exists, and doesn't really do the same kind of > PH> thing. How about HTML::FormGen? > > How 'bo

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-23 Thread Vivek Khera
> "PH" == Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> HTML::Form? :) PH> Well, duh! Why didn't I think of that? Unfortunately though, PH> HTML::Form already exists, and doesn't really do the same kind of PH> thing. How about HTML::FormGen? How 'bout HTML::StickyForms ? -- =-=-=-=-=-=

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-23 Thread Drew Taylor
Peter Haworth wrote: > > brian moseley wrote: > > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > In light of the non-dependency on mod_perl, the > > > Apache::Request::Form name is also out. I'd still rather > > > not use the CGI::Form name, in case there are any > > > current users whose interf

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
? :) > > Well, duh! Why didn't I think of that? Unfortunately though, HTML::Form already > exists, and doesn't really do the same kind of thing. How about HTML::FormGen? HTML::Forms? -- Fastnet Software Ltd. High Performance Web Specialists Providing mod_perl

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-23 Thread Peter Haworth
brian moseley wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > > In light of the non-dependency on mod_perl, the > > Apache::Request::Form name is also out. I'd still rather > > not use the CGI::Form name, in case there are any > > current users whose interface would change, which is a > > sha

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-22 Thread Vivek Khera
> "PH" == Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PH> In light of the non-dependency on mod_perl, the PH> Apache::Request::Form name is also out. I'd still rather not use PH> the CGI::Form name, in case there are any current users whose PH> interface would change, which is a shame, because

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-22 Thread brian moseley
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > That's fairly likely. How about this kind of interface? > > my $form=CGI::Form->new($r); # Except for the name. See below > # Or: my $form=CGI::Form->new($cgi); > > print $form->textfield(name => 'name', size => '60', default => 'Peter'); yup,

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-22 Thread Peter Haworth
brian moseley wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > I think the name CGI::Form is appropriate, since the > > forms are part of the CGI protocol, not anything > > mod_perl or Apache sepecific. CGI::Form seems to be an > > abandoned module, so I&#x

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-21 Thread brian moseley
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > 'ref_array' => sub { > my @a; > push @a, \($one, $two, $three); > my_print(@a); > }, aha. i knew i wasn't on crack. i just forgot an important detai

Re: Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-20 Thread Greg Cope
: > : >On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: : > : > > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which : > > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current : >favourite : > > name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we&

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-20 Thread w trillich
"Jeffrey W. Baker" wrote: > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > > pretty slow if you build a string using .= instead of using > > smarter methods, like pushing strings onto an array and then > > joining it. > > You tried to sell me that when I

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > Damn - forgot smiley. Sorry :-) doh. your reponse combined with my jetlag == foncusion :-)

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > > I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > > functions - use templates or stylesheets. > > you're probably right. but that's not what i was getting at. > i was trying to make points about the bigger picture in gen

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Drew Taylor
Matt, All I'm looking for is the fastest way to print sticky form elements. I already use HTML::Template for the page templating engine (and it works very well!). I need to take a look at CGI v.3 beta to see if it answers some of my concerns about memory usage. Matt Sergeant wrote: > > On Fri,

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Honza Pazdziora
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 06:08:41PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > functions - use templates or stylesheets. At the very moment, I have a problem to find arguments to persuate my colleagues to accept this vision. Do you

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
> I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > functions - use templates or stylesheets. you're probably right. but that's not what i was getting at. i was trying to make points about the bigger picture in general. trying to answer "why write something in c that's

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
o, in my book, for generating regular HTML. The only problem is with making a template that has sticky forms with non-text fields. Making a sticky menu select object ain't easy in templated-HTML, in my experience. I prefer to do forms (at least the menus

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > personally, i like to have generic things written in c, things that won't > change much or at all after they are first implemented (not including bug > shaking). e.g. Apache::Request. both c and Perl are great languages and > blend very well togethe

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > Well, my point was that the decision to code something in C should be done > because it offers an overwhelming (orders of magnitude) improvement, > preferably on more than one front (speed, memory, ease of maintenance > (haha) ). small savings here and ther

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Autarch
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text > > output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? > > I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. > > more like Perl is serious overkill :) >

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > eg I think there was a thread on this list way back about OO method calls > versus direct package references... and people said that OO method calls > have a lot of overhead, but I think in later versions of Perl, OO method > call paths are cach

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > .= concatenation is way faster > > i don't have any results to back up my claim. therefore, > my words are eaten :) > > i was convinced tho, even way back before you came to cp. i > wonder what convi

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text > output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? > I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. more like Perl is serious overkill :) SV's are BIG, noti

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
> i do think that doug's separation of responsibilities into > classes is the right one. your widget toolkit probably > shouldn't be named Apache::HTML tho, unless it's actually > using the apache api in some fashion. one reason i was thinking Apache::HTML is so we can use ap_pool for allocations

New Module (was Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar))

2000-05-19 Thread Francesc Guasch
I have my own module for doing this job, sorry I missed many posts of this thread but here is what I do: - The target is automatically : add , update, select data from a table reading data typed by the user. - I didn't want to use the Apache api, so it even can be used out of apache, so I ca

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:53 AM 5/18/00 -0700, brian moseley wrote: >On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > .= concatenation is way faster > >i don't have any results to back up my claim. therefore, >my words are eaten :) > >i was convinced tho, even way back before you came to cp. i >wonder what convince

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > .= concatenation is way faster i don't have any results to back up my claim. therefore, my words are eaten :) i was convinced tho, even way back before you came to cp. i wonder what convinced me!

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
Autarch wrote: > I really don't think we need yet another module doing what CGI does. The > people who've worked on the new version have done a very good job of > addressing the memory and speed concerns people had about the current > monolothic version. I think its much better to extend their

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
-default=>$value" part of the method call isn't it? I don't create forms elements with out specifying the default value. -- Drew Taylor Vialogix Communications, Inc. 501 N. College Street Charlotte, NC 28202 704 370 0550 http://www.vialogix.com/

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > > > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply > > generate plain text output. How slow is making a string > > in perl compared to doing it in C? I can't imagine > > there's to much of a difference. >

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Autarch
On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: > i suggest that instead of subclassing Apache::Request, you > write the following set of classes: > > 1) html widget class > 2) sticky forms class - use html widget class, take $r or $q >as param > 3) "wrapper&quo

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Drew Taylor wrote: > What do you define the difference to be between #1 and > #2? All I need is sticky forms - primarily the > popup_menu(). If HTML widgets are b(), td(), etc, then > we didn't plan on creating those. Forms is the main > point of th

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > > > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply > > generate plain text output. How slow is making a string > > in perl compared to doing it in C? I can't imagine > > there's to much of a difference. > > pretty slow if y

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > i suggest that instead of subclassing Apache::Request, you > write the following set of classes: > > 1) html widget class > 2) sticky forms class - use html widget class, take $r or $q >as param > 3) "wrapper" class - gives you the

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply > generate plain text output. How slow is making a string > in perl compared to doing it in C? I can't imagine > there's to much of a difference. pretty slow if you build a string using .= instead of us

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
new module. ah, ok. bumming. i suggest that instead of subclassing Apache::Request, you write the following set of classes: 1) html widget class 2) sticky forms class - use html widget class, take $r or $q as param 3) "wrapper" class - gives you the CGI.pm interface, uses sticky

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Autarch
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > personally, i'd like to see Apache::HTML for generating html, written in > c. something simple along the lines of HTML::AsSubs, then another class > to glues it and Apache::Request together that provides CGI.pm features, > like &#x

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Drew Taylor wrote: > > > I personally have code that puts a CGI.pm object in the > > object ($self), which is then used for both HTML > > generation AND fetching params AND cookies. > > > > For example, I have lines like 'my $val = > > $self->{CGI}->

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Drew Taylor wrote: > I personally have code that puts a CGI.pm object in the > object ($self), which is then used for both HTML > generation AND fetching params AND cookies. > > For example, I have lines like 'my $val = > $self->{CGI}->param('blah')' as well as 'my $form = >

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > I'm getting more confident about calling it > > Apache::Request::Form (no "s", for name similarity with > > CGI::Form) now. It is dependent on Apache::Request, > > after all, and reusing the CGI::Form name makes it look > >

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > I'm getting more confident about calling it > Apache::Request::Form (no "s", for name similarity with > CGI::Form) now. It is dependent on Apache::Request, > after all, and reusing the CGI::Form name makes it look > more general than it really is, not t

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Peter Haworth
GI.pm features, > > like 'sticky forms'. but, i haven't given that much thought. > Well, I wouldn't mind doing it in C (since the raison d'etre is to be as > absolutely fast & lean as possible), but I don't know C. :-( I'd have no problem writing it

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread brian moseley
st together that provides CGI.pm features, > > like 'sticky forms'. but, i haven't given that much thought. > Well, I wouldn't mind doing it in C (since the raison d'etre is to be as > absolutely fast & lean as possible), but I don't know C. :-( i sugges

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-18 Thread Drew Taylor
Doug MacEachern wrote: > > personally, i'd like to see Apache::HTML for generating html, written in > c. something simple along the lines of HTML::AsSubs, then another class > to glues it and Apache::Request together that provides CGI.pm features, > like 'sticky form

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current favourite > name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd like to know if anyone has a better &

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > what part of the mod_perl api are you going to actually use? > with the list of widgets you sent earlier, i'm hard pressed > to see where anything other than $obj->param will be useful > to you. i don't see where you would get any benefit from > being "mod_perl specific".

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Drew Taylor
Gunther Birznieks wrote: > You stated why but it seemed a bit vague. You mention performance. What > about CGI.pm's HTML generation methods is too slow that you will improve > using mod_perl specific features? And why is the API itself a reason for it > being slow that you have to make the API i

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
rrent > favourite > > > name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd like to know if anyone has a > better > > > one. > > > > There's going to be a new version of CGI some time in the future which > > will allow you to only use the parts of it you

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
request anyway. If people didn't want you to pervert the code, they wouldn't have made it open source. > > I think the name CGI::Form is appropriate, since the forms are part of > > the CGI protocol, not anything mod_perl or Apache sepecific. > > CGI::Form seems to be

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Autarch
ke is not really needed as the new CGI.pm will do what you want and will have a reasonably reduced memory and speed overhead. One thing that could be done to improve this would be to break the currently fairly large CGI::Object::Html class into several smaller classes (::Forms ::Tables ::??). Then

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread brian moseley
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Drew Taylor wrote: > That is an interesting point Brian. What I would like is > a single object I can use to get form params OR generate > HTML, ala CGI.pm, but mod_perl specific for speed > reasons. The idea is to have as small a memory footprint > as possible, using the mod

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Vivek Khera
>>>>> "DT" == Drew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think the name CGI::Form is appropriate, since the forms are part of DT> Well, in our case we are looking to make it mod_perl specific. See my Right... But if your interface only relies on cal

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Vivek Khera
>>>>> "bm" == brian moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bm> actually forms are specified in HTML, not CGI. Ok... if you say so. bm> consider writing your forms library to depend on an bm> interface, not a specific class, so that users can provide bm>

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Drew Taylor
brian moseley wrote: > > peter: i question why you want to subclass Apache::Request, > rather than provide a helper class that maybe maintains a > reference to an Apache::Request object, or some other weaker > type of relationship. That is an interesting point Brian. What I would like is a single

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Drew Taylor
code from one module in another if they are both released under the same license? > I think the name CGI::Form is appropriate, since the forms are part of > the CGI protocol, not anything mod_perl or Apache sepecific. > CGI::Form seems to be an abandoned module, so I'm sure you

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread brian moseley
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > I think the name CGI::Form is appropriate, since the > forms are part of the CGI protocol, not anything > mod_perl or Apache sepecific. CGI::Form seems to be an > abandoned module, so I'm sure you can get permission to > adopt it and

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Drew Taylor
Autarch wrote: > > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which > > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current favourite > > name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Vivek Khera
>>>>> "PH" == Peter Haworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PH> Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request PH> which includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The PH> current favourite name is Apache::Request::Forms, b

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Peter Haworth
Autarch wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which > > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current > > favourite name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd lik

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Gunther Birznieks
: >Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which >includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current favourite >name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd like to know if anyone has a better >one. > >The module is currently planned to be

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Autarch
On Wed, 17 May 2000, Peter Haworth wrote: > Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which > includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current favourite > name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd like to know if anyone has a better > on

RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-17 Thread Peter Haworth
Drew Taylor and I are about to write a subclass of Apache::Request which includes form element generation methods, a la CGI.pm. The current favourite name is Apache::Request::Forms, but we'd like to know if anyone has a better one. The module is currently planned to be fairly bare-boned,

Re: CGI and forms (GET vs Post)

2000-01-06 Thread Eric L. Brine
d when there is no side effect. e.g. when submitting a search query, when asking for one's bank balance or otherwise fetching info. The browser uses the GET method to fetch HTML docs, images, and everything else except forms which specify a different method. POST is to be used when there is

Re: CGI and forms

2000-01-06 Thread Etienne Pelaprat
where I select an article to modify and hit 'modify', it sends me to the cancel page. Checking the source of the select page the 'submit' variable was set to 'modify' as it should have been... if it is a caching issue, do you any way to fix that? Thanks in advance,

Re: CGI and forms

2000-01-06 Thread darren chamberlain
Hi Etienne, CGI forms are "sticky"--they remember their value from the previous call, even if you manually set a value. Try adding a -force=>1 to the hashref that gets passed into the submit function ($q->submit(-name=>'submit',-value=>'Modify',-force=&g

CGI and forms

2000-01-06 Thread Etienne Pelaprat
Hi, I'm having trouble with a script is use for posting, modifying, and submiting queued news to a database that gets used by another script to (to display stuff in the database). When no parameters are passed in, the script displays a list of all the articles waiting to be posted (from a databas