[Moin-user] Mailing Lists are moving to python.org!
Hi, we used SourceForge Mailing Lists for a long time, but now is the time to move on. Yesterday at ~21:00 UTC, I took a backup of moin-user (and also moin-devel) Mailing Lists so all the past content can be also viewed in the new archives at python.org: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/moin-user https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/moin-devel (the moin-devel list was not used for a longer time, but could be used again in future) Please subscribe to these new mailing lists ASAP (and unsubscribe from the old SF mailing lists). The old mailing lists will be disabled soon and all incoming mail for them from now on might get lost / discarded. Cheers, Thomas -- GPG ID: FAF7B393 GPG FP: 6D5B EF9A DD20 7580 5747 B70F 9F88 FB52 FAF7 B393 -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=1444514421=/41014381 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Unable to successfully access user account browser
I'm trying to access the user account browser (SystemAdmin/sysadm=users) but the page just bombs out and Apache logs the following: mod_wsgi (pid=9621): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/srv/moin-config/moin.wsgi'. IOError: failed to write data Sounds like you run into a timeout. Maybe just retry (due to caching, it might be faster the 2nd time). Or increase timeouts the web server waits for data of the wsgi process. I need to clean up the accounts from ex-staff, particularly since some of them have got notifications firing. If nothing else helps, you can always have a look at data/user/* in the filesystem. -- GPG Fingerprint: 6D5B EF9A DD20 7580 5747 B70F 9F88 FB52 FAF7 B393 Encrypted E-Mail is preferred / Verschluesselte E-Mail wird bevorzugt. -- Monitor 25 network devices or servers for free with OpManager! OpManager is web-based network management software that monitors network devices and physical virtual servers, alerts via email sms for fault. Monitor 25 devices for free with no restriction. Download now http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/292181274;119417398;o ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] 500 Internal Server Error on v1.9.8
Stop the moin process / web server. Try moin ... maint cleancache to clear the precompiles pages' cache. Start the moin process / web server. The retry accessing that page. [Wed May 27 18:04:29 2015] [error] exec code [Wed May 27 18:04:29 2015] [error] File SM Web GUI Setup, line 4, in ? [Wed May 27 18:04:29 2015] [error] TypeError: exceptions must be old-style classes or derived from BaseException, not str ^^ Typical weird error msg that happens when changing python version and not clearing the cache. -- ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] GSoC 2015 aspirant: Validation of Wiki Contents
I have set-up MoinMoin and using the software. Please guide me for the next step. What are the beginner level bugs to fix? Have a look into the issue tracker. Difficulty of some bug depends very much on domain knowledge of who is trying to solve. Also I am interested in GSoC 2015 project Validation of Wiki Contents. Please keep in mind that these are ideas which you can use to assemble a project. Not each idea is enough to full a GSOC. Thus, you should make a good and detailled plan (and while doing that, you will be able to project how long solving some stuff will take you). How should I start, need a brief overview of the project. Think about it. Maybe storage.validation, storage.indexing is interesting to see what metadata we have and what can be validated. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] GSoC 2015 Projects
I am new to open source coding and wanted to contribute to moin-moin in thee GSoC phase. 2 projects particularly Improve Issue tracker and improve blog interest me a lot. How do I start my work so that I get to work on these projects during the GSoC? Best is to join us on IRC #moin-dev (ask specific questions and be patient). On the ideas page, there are quite some linked pages with stuff to read - a lot of questions will be answered by that. Besides that, just use the software you try to improve, you likely will find more specific ideas about what could be done specifically. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] email verification for new registration
I am new to moinmoin wiki. I have installed it and I want to send a verification mail to newly registered member. Please suggest how to do that. You need to configure a mail server, user name and password in your wikiconfig.py. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Moin Installation
Initially installed the MoinMoin correctly. I was exploring MoinMoin on http://127.0.0.1:8080/ but suddenly I got the following error. Inline image 1 That was hardly readable btw. - but I think you could try clearing the cookies for 127.0.0.1:8080 in your browser. And if you search for a bugfix you could contribute: this is it :D -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Upgrading 1.8.1 to 1.9.8
I'm running a fairly old MoinMoin install - 1.8.1. An abridged version of SystemInfo is below. I've read the various upgrade HowTos and it *seems* straightforward. Does anyone have a recommended HowTo? docs/* in the download has instructions. I plan to try to install this on a Synology NAS eventually, but thought I would upgrade it first. Yeah, maybe try to get a newer python. 2.5.1 is too old these days. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=190641631iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] GSoC 2015
I am Rohan Goel , Computer Science undergraduate at BITS Pilani , India and am interested in working for your organization in GSoC 2015. As I am a beginner in open source coding , it would be great help if you guide me where to start from. My primary language of interest is Python. https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2015 there are some links, read them. Also please join us on IRC, see there for details. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=190641631iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Contributing to MoinMoin for GSOC 2015
Hi Akshita, I am an GSOC - 2015 Applicant. I am currently in my 3rd year B.Tech (Computer Science). I want to contribute to MoinMoin. I would be really grateful, if you could help me get started. Very likely most or all projects for GSOC will be based on moin 2.0 and we have a wiki page for that with all the important links, read it: https://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 Also please join us on IRC #moin-dev on chat.freenode.net. Cheers, Thomas -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Insert/Edit image button disabled
I don't know what versions were working. It was probably in 2008 or 2009... OK, pity. Can you just tell me if this is supposed to work or not? I don't use the gui editor. In theory all offered is supposed to work, but the problem is that not many developers care for the js parts of our code. So it might just need the right person to fix it. If this limitation is local to my installation but it works everywhere else, I can spend some time working on it. You can just try if it happens on https://moinmo.in/ - if it works there, it is a local problem of your installation. If it hasn't been working anywhere for many years, I might not be able to fix it myself... If you know js and/or FCKeditor, your chances are better than mine. -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Insert/Edit image button disabled
I just updated MoinMoin to 1.9.8 after a very long time without updates. The button Insert/Edit image in the GUI editor is now permanently disabled. So, it worked before? If you can find out at which (moin and FCKeditor) release it stopped working, that might be helpful. Is there a way to get it working the way it was before (specifying the image file name in attachment)? Well, needs some javascript developer who likes to dive into FCKEditor and plugins (== not me, sorry). -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Programmatic creating/editing of pages
1. I'd prefer NOT to have page history for these pages. It takes up disc space and isn't really necessary. IIRC there is a parameter of PageEditor (or the save call) where you can switch off revisioning. 2. I'd prefer NOT to have changes to these pages show up in the RecentChanges list. The reason for this request is because part of the update process requires me to update the photos for each person. Since I can't (easily) do a file comparison to see if the photo has changed, I replace all of the photos anyway just to be on the safe side. I don't think you can do this easily using the existing API. -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. vanity: www.gigenet.com ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Render MoinMoin wiki syntax to HTML without having a wiki deployment
On 12/22/2014 02:06 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: I would like to know (if it is possible) how to render a MoinMoin wiki file into an HTML file, without having an MoinMoin instance. (Obviously I do have MoinMoin code installed, but no running instance configured.) I know about `moin export dump`, but from what I understand it requires (although not a running server), MoinMoin deployment (with configuration files, data files, etc.) What I'm after is something like `rst2html2` which I can fed on stdin with the source and I get on stdout the HTML variant. (I want to use the MoinMoin native syntax, not the RestructuredText.) It's not as easy as you think it is. moin rendering depends on information not only from the markup, but also from configuration, request environment and in some cases even from page/attachment storage. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Request for comments about new parser InteractiveImageMap.py (for the ROS wiki)
I never used codereview.appspot.com before, but I did create a new repository: https://codereview.appspot.com/search?base=https://github.com/andreasBihlmaier/moinmoin_interactive_image_map.git/trunk/ (I hope this is enough in order for comments to be possible) The link just leads to something empty. Usually one uses the upload.py tool of codereview before commit to submit the current workdir changes to CR. It is also possible after commit, but IIRC needs some params then. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Request for comments about new parser InteractiveImageMap.py (for the ROS wiki)
Hi Andreas, I'm currently working on a new parser plugin to have interactive image maps such as http://andreasbihlmaier.github.io/html/2014-10-30-ros_beginner_documentation.html available within MoinMoin. Ah, nice. :) to get some feedback from you (i.e. the MoinMoin experts) about InteractiveImageMap.py. Furthermore, I'd be glad about other suggestions for (code) improvements. Well, to make that easier, it would be good if you e.g. put the code in codereview.appspot.com, so one can efficiently comment on specific parts of it. After processing feedback, you can also easily update such a codereview to the current state and get more feedback. Cheers, Thomas -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Replacing a Wiki does not work as expected
Once in a while I replace this with a scheduled task with the original version in order to fight spammers/idiots. If you replace the data_dir or data_underlay_dir content behind moin's back, you need to restart the moin process afterwards (or even better: stop, replace, start). moin does caching and if you do not restart, the cache would be inconsistent with the on disk contents. -- ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] moin 1.9.8 released!
This release is mostly about some small new features, performance improvements, enhanced logging and bug fixes. Also, the bundled software was upgraded. For details see: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/1.9.8/docs/CHANGES See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive. BTW, for future moin 1.9 releases, we still need many more people helping with maintaining and updating translations on http://master.moinmo.in/ . So, especially if you speak some non-english language, you can help! See http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation for details. These days we spent most of our time on developing moin2, see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 for details. If you like to hack / test new stuff, have a look! Also feel invited to help with it, so it gets ready for production sooner. If you are interested in helping, feel free to contact us on IRC chat, see: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Where to catch FileTooLong error
Hi Nikolaus, How about this patch? diff --git a/MoinMoin/Page.py b/MoinMoin/Page.py --- a/MoinMoin/Page.py +++ b/MoinMoin/Page.py @@ -217,6 +217,10 @@ # never store empty pages, so this is detectable and also # safe when passed to a function expecting a string) return +elif er.errno == errno.ENAMETOOLONG: +# If the name is too long, the page can't exist on this +# system either. +return else: raise It fixed the issue for me, and applies cleanly against the 1.9 hg repository. I decided against an error message and instead opted to treat this like a file-not-found error (which, in some way it is). ./pytest also runs fine with the patched source. OK, looks good. I fixed it in an equivalent way: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/5e80523a1677 Thanks for the patch! Cheers, Thomas -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Where to catch FileTooLong error
Hi Nikolaus, It fixed the issue for me, Well, I just tried it and it now just blows up at another place: 2014-10-14 18:28:17,664 INFO MoinMoin.web.serving:41 127.0.0.1 GET /aaa HTTP/1.1 500 - 2014-10-14 18:28:17,680 ERROR werkzeug:116 Error on request: Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/serving.py, line 159, in run_wsgi execute(app) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/serving.py, line 146, in execute application_iter = app(environ, start_response) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/wsgi.py, line 411, in __call__ return self.app(environ, start_response) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, line 264, in __call__ response = run(context) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, line 89, in run response = dispatch(request, context, action_name) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, line 137, in dispatch response = handle_action(context, pagename, action_name) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, line 203, in handle_action handler(context.page.page_name, context) File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/action/__init__.py, line 268, in do_show content_only=content_only, File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/Page.py, line 1304, in send_page html_head=html_head, File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py, line 1809, in send_title 'pagesize': pagename and page.size() or 0, File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/Page.py, line 681, in size return os.path.getsize(self._text_filename(rev=rev)) File /usr/lib/python2.7/genericpath.py, line 49, in getsize return os.stat(filename).st_size OSError: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/home/tw/mm19/wiki/data/pages/aaa/revisions/' Didn't you get this when trying it out? Cheers, Thomas -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Where to catch FileTooLong error
File /home/tw/mm19/MoinMoin/Page.py, line 681, in size return os.path.getsize(self._text_filename(rev=rev)) File /usr/lib/python2.7/genericpath.py, line 49, in getsize return os.stat(filename).st_size OSError: [Errno 36] File name too long: '/home/tw/mm19/wiki/data/pages/aaa/revisions/' Didn't you get this when trying it out? Fixed by: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/14b0dff0d0c6 -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Where to catch FileTooLong error
Moin Nikolaus, Several times a day I get the errors like the following in my moinmoin server logs: Yeah, seen them also. Not too often, not causing issues here, so I just ignored them. [Wed Oct 01 17:50:31 2014] [error] [client 176.194.6.204] File /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py, line 212, in get_body [Wed Oct 01 17:50:31 2014] [error] [client 176.194.6.204] f = codecs.open(self._text_filename(), 'rb', config.charset) [Wed Oct 01 17:50:31 2014] [error] [client 176.194.6.204] IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long: '...' I believe this is just some attempted exploit failing miserably and no cause for concern. Correct. Not even sure it is an exploit. Sometimes such stuff are also just crappy bots using links from crappy services or constructing links badly. But somehow it looks like trying a buffer overflow, yes (which can't happen in python). What would be the best way to catch this exception and log a short, standard message instead? I guess you could catch it at the place I quoted. Make sure you do not catch stuff also which you did not want to catch. Maybe check errno? Important: run your code, practically try if it really fixes the problem. Run our unit tests (== run ./pytest from top level dir). I am proficient in Python, but not in moinmoin. So my question is mostly *where* to insert the necessary code, and how to generate the error message (just print to stderr, or is there a logging function I should use?). We use the stdlib logging, just look in some code to find how it is usually imported and used (our logging is NOT the logging module object). Ideally, I'd also like to change something in /etc rather than changing e.g. /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, so that the changes are not lost on the next update. If you get the changes done asap and get them adopted upstream (== by me), they could be in a release quicker than you think. :D Cheers, Thomas -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] LDAP Groups for ACLS
Is there an easy way to get LDAP authorization working as well as LDAP authenitcation ? If I log in as user1 where the authentication is checked by ldap, is there a way to get the ACL mechanism to go to LDAP to check group membership ? A very simple group membership check can be implemented by the ldap search string, which could check e.g. for some wikiallowed attribute. For instance, user1 is a member of group1 but not group2 (both from LDAP) so if a page has an ACL to only allow users from group1 then user1 can see it, but not if the ACL restricts to group2 ? I found this... http://moinmo.in/Groups2009 ...but I can't find any mention of whether this work was completed or any documentation on getting it working. IIRC it wasn't completed. If you know Python and you have a ldap environment to test it, you maybe could continue it. :) Can anyone help with this ? I can help with moin questions, but I don't use moin with ldap myself. Cheers, Thomas -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] release candidate for 1.9.8
Moin :) Just wanted to tell that I've uploaded a RC for 1.9.8 so it can get more testing. It would be nice if some of you would download it, test it and provide feedback. I have the code running on moinmo.in for a while, but feedback from different installations is always good. There are some new features in it as well as quite some bugfixes. Change-Log: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/fde5fea5986a/docs/CHANGES Download: http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.9.8.tar.gz $ sha256sum moin-1.9.8.tar.gz 1657ebaf6034aae3c5d275e4d90a5452789a97d5031b641ad77b3e94228a5a41 moin-1.9.8.tar.gz Cheers, Thomas -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Multiple file upload implementation
On 08/10/2014 12:05 PM, James Wilmot wrote: Moin Moin! I have hacked together a multiple file upload implementation (using https://github.com/blueimp/jQuery-File-Upload) Cool, I used the same stuff for another project (bepasty on github). for my local usage on MoinMoin 1.9.X, but I would be interested in polishing it and pushing it upstream. Questions: - 1.9.X seems to be feature stable at the moment, Yes, whether your change is acceptable for inclusion into 1.9 depends a lot on the impact it has on existing code / functionality. Also, some admins or distribution packagers might want to have it optional and off-by-default. just to develop on top of MoinMoin 2.X? moin2 is preferable for new features. And IIRC we already have multi-file-upload there, I don't remember whether it was with that lib or some other one, though. Try throwing stuff onto the index page of moin2. - the implementation I have is basically hacked into the action/AttachFile.py but doesn't change any of the backend functionality: it is all front end changes. Would it be best to put the feature into an applet like the editor? I think I can give better advice if you just put the stuff on codereview.appspot.com and add me as a reviewer there. Thanks for the excellent wiki and I hope to contribute back in other ways in the future! (like the LDAP integration) You're welcome! And we would definitely like you trying moin2 and hacking it for usability. :) BTW, in next 1.9 release, there are some minor changes to deal with (==delete, move) multiple attachments already, see repo. BTW, if you use IRC, join us on #moin-dev on freenode. Cheers, Thomas -- ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Multi-location moinmoin implementation?
Moin Philip, I don't run such setups, but I hope this might be helpful nevertheless: We currently running our moinmoin wiki on an Amazon instance in North Virginia. We have people in China who are trying to access it and are reporting very poor access performance. Can have many reasons. Slow local internet connection at the user's site. Slow regional network there. High latency / slow international connection. Even different system loads due to different typical usage hours. I'm thinking that one way of solving the problem would be to set up a second server in a location nearer to China, e.g. Tokyo or Singapore. Sounds reasonable. But maybe ask some people in china if that really helps / do comparative speed/latency tests. Off the top of my head, it would seem to be relatively straightforward to set up the Asia instance as read-only and then use rsync to replicate changes from the US instance to Asia. Yes, that would work. Do a maint cleancache and a moin process restart after rsyncing. If you run exactly same python version, cpu architecture and maybe also otherwise same-setup, you can maybe get away without cleancache. I could then use Amazon's geo technology to redirect users to the nearest server. Maybe don't. Just have the servers at different URLs, so that people can decide which one to use (read-only one for fast reading / searching, the master for editing). 2. Ideally, both servers would be writeable and I'd be syncing in both directions but there is the risk of a collision then with two different people editing the same page at the same time. It would be a small risk, but the risk is there. Right. Maybe the r/w master and r/o replica is simpler. A third theoretical option is to set up a web proxy (squid, varnish, ...) near/inside china. But as wiki contents can change any time, effectively caching them is non-trivial / not possible without risking strange effects. Cheers, Thomas -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] No templates with moinmoin 1.9.4
On 05/05/2014 04:49 PM, Matthias Seitz wrote: moinmoin is installed from the Debian Packages on a debian wheezy system, the current release there is 1.9.4-8 A bit old, as usual, but should work (and they apply critical security fixes). The wiki works great so far, the only thing which doesen't work are the templates. regex in the wikiconfig.py: page_category_regex = ur'(?PallCategory(?Pkey(?!Template)\S+))' page_dict_regex = ur'(?Pall(?Pkey\S+)Dict)' page_group_regex = ur'(?Pall(?Pkey\S+)Group)' page_template_regex = ur'(?Pall(?Pkey\S+)Template)' Looks like the defaults, right? I've created a test_Template site You mean a page with that name? There's just a URL Create New Page. The template pages should show in the list of templates, as well as similarly named pages on the same page as create new page?. Did you restart the wiki after (maybe?) modifying your wiki config? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] No templates with moinmoin 1.9.4
BTW, I just tested the template issue: With the current repo code as well as with the code tagged as 1.9.4 it immediately worked. I just uncompressed the underlay.tar (this is needed when running the wiki from the repo, not required when using a release archive or package). Then I started wikiserver.py and visited a non-existing page. Got the create new page link plus the list with a few templates on the left. So I guess the issue must be some local configuration or installation issue. Maybe check in the log output the precise path of the config file(s) it loads. Maybe it is not the file you are editing. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] unable to view .ppt ,.doc files
Moin :), I am new to moinmoin and i recently installed moinmoin -1.9.7. when tring to view/read certain files am getting the below error. Current configuration does not allow embedding of the file sample.ppt because of its mimetype application/vnd.ms-powerpoint A browser itself can not embed and display that mimetype, you need to download such a file and open it with powerpoint. Where do I change the configuration to allow the embedding? First solve the problem how to enable your browser to be able to display this inside the browser, do you have a plugin for that? Cheers, Thomas -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] moin 1.9 subscriptions / notifications updates, testing needed!
Just a small update about the recent commits to the 1.9 repo: There were major changes about how some things (internally) work and it would be great if some people test them before the next release (1.9.8) happens. You can get the current code from the repository, the code is also running now on the http://moinmo.in/ wiki. a) subscriber determination with better scalability When you save a page, moin has to determine which users have subscribed to the page (to receive change notifications). This used to be rather slow as moin opened all the user profiles to look which users are subscribed to this page. There was a patch for this on the wiki since quite a while (thanks to everybody who has contributed to that). But, the patch had some issues and needed more testing before it could go into moin. You can see it there + in the following changesets after that: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/54dc774ff49b While working on that, other issues were discovered and fixed, code was refactored / cleaned up. Some stuff is faster now. :) I did some tests with 1 user profiles and it worked much faster than before. b) email notifications The (template) strings used for these are configurable now (the builtin defaults for them stayed the same so we don't lose the existing translations). Docs / Examples: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/a3900f360ad0/docs/CHANGES#l82 While working on that, I also fixed the (non-working) notifications for page deletion / rename, attachment added / removed. If you find any issues or have other feedback, use IRC or the mailing list or file bugs on the wiki. -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] No GSOC 2014 for MoinMoin, but we can have a summer of code without google sponsoring ; )
See there: https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2014 Because of that, I consider all GSOC-2014-related questions as irrelevant now. If you had recently posted a question to IRC or the mailing list about the project ideas or expressing you are interested in contributing, I assume that they were related to GSOC and are somehow obsolete now. If that isn't the case and you like to do a project without google sponsoring with us, you're very welcome, just ask again in that case. Cheers, Thomas -- Flow-based real-time traffic analytics software. Cisco certified tool. Monitor traffic, SLAs, QoS, Medianet, WAAS etc. with NetFlow Analyzer Customize your own dashboards, set traffic alerts and generate reports. Network behavioral analysis security monitoring. All-in-one tool. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=126839071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] Mentors and helpers wanted for MoinMoin team in Google Summer of Code 2014
MoinMoin :) MoinMoin project has filed an application as mentoring organisation for GSOC 2014. https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2014 Until February, 14th, we need to complete the application with the count of mentors we have. As you see on the wiki page, we currently have only 3 mentors (2 of them also org admin / backup admin). The amount of student project grants we get from google depends on many factors (in the past, these were usually 3 .. 6 student projects per summer), but one is of course mentoring capacity. The amount of student projects we can (and would) take depends primarily on availability of primary mentors. For quality mentoring, there usually should be 1 mentor per student. In some cases 1 mentor for 2 students can also work (e.g. if mentor has more time, students are predicted to need not that much mentoring, the 2 projects are somehow similar, etc.). So, if you have good experience with some of the following things, think about whether you could help with mentoring a student (as primary mentor) or hanging out with us on #moin-dev as a helper - helping now and then on some topics (but not being a primary mentor for a student). * moin2 codebase (if you have long term moin 1.x coding experience, that might also work, if you can take up the differences quickly) * python * javascript / jquery * css / bootstrap * html5 * mercurial / bitbucket * testing / py.test (and maybe other stuff I just forgot right now :) If this sounds interesting and you like to help the project and student developers who are maybe new to the project, add your name to the mentors list on the wikipage linked above. We usually do mentoring on IRC collaboratively - whoever is online and can answer a question will just do so (no matter whether he is primary mentor for that student or not). You of course should have some time to spend on mentoring, so you should not be super-busy with lots of other stuff. Students are expected to work full-time on their project, a mentor is expected to have at least some hours per week free to spend for mentoring. In case it matters: MoinMoin organisation usually gets 500 USD per student mentored and the mentor decides what happens with that money (usual options are pay mentor invoice or donate to project). Also, after a successful GSOC, google usually invites 2 mentors per org to their headquarters in mountain view to the GSOC mentor summit (travel costs and 2 hotel nights paid by Google). If we have more than 2 mentors willing and able to go there, we'll roll a dice. :D Cheers, Thomas -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Getting Introduced with the Community and Looking forward to Contribute to the Project as part of Gsoc 2014
Hi Nitika, Firstly I, Nitika would like to introduce myself to the developers of this commmunity. You're welcome! I am the project admin. ;) My skills include Programming languages: GNU C/C++, Python, Javascript, Version control systems Git/Github and SVN. You won't need C/C++ for moin, also no git or svn. But you'll need hg (mercurial), bitbucket and html5 / css. I had installed the required necessary tools and setup the environment in my system needed for the contribution to open source software. Contributions are always welcome. See the moin-2.0 issue tracker and the EasyToDo page on the wiki. I had got myself aware of the source to some extent and had forked on my github account. I guess would not have worked as we do not use git for moin. The moin 1.9 repo for moin you found on github is just something from a user and rather outdated. See the wiki for our repo URLs, links to documentation, etc.: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 BTW, it looks a bit like you made this mailing list post content rather generic so you can post it to multiple mailing lists. While I can understand this for efficiency reasons, that might cause issues, as you have seen. In case you plan to do similar for your GSOC application(s): don't do that, it won't work. You should focus on 1 or 2 applications and prepare them well. You need to get into the project(s), have a meaningful application, know what you're talking about, give details about the project you plan to do. If you do more than a few, you will likely not have enough time to do each of them well enough. I would like to seek the mentors help in the selection of the project for which the idea has been proposed for the Gsoc and someone is willing to mentor the project idea. See our ideas page on the wiki (and please read at least the first paragraphs of it completely). If there is some interesting project for you (or if you have an own idea), join us on #moin-dev on IRC. Cheers, Thomas -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Unhandelled exceptions
I tried posting following message on Google Groups ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/moin-user/rtU-zD1U7Hw ), which I think is not the official mailing list. No, it isn't. But it seems to contain same messages as the mailing list. But I didn't see your message before, so it doesn't seem to work bidirectionally. We have been using MoinMoin for more than 3 years for our website and it has been working nicely. However, in since couple of weeks we have started to get Unhandled exception while editing some pages of the website using GUI mode of the editor. Few other things have also stopped working, for instance copy-paste also seems to give Unhandled exception and insert image button is not available anymore. Temporarily, we have been editing the website using text-mode of the editor but we would like to get back GUI mode functionality. Is there any way to find the source of the issue and fix it? Look into the web server logs (e.g. apache's error log) if you find some Traceback from moin there. Or, if you don't, configure moin's logging to log to a separate file (see moin.wsgi or whatever adaptor script you used. there are sample logging configs in wiki/config/... in the download archive). We are running MoinMoin 1.9.3 and Python 2.4.3. As far as we know, not much has changed in the configuration files. That sounds a bit like your system is rather outdated and needs a bigger upgrade. Maybe check whether your base system still gets security updates at least and whether you could upgrade to a newer release. Also, is it possible that updating to a newer version of MoinMoin (and Python) can fix the issues? Well, maybe. It depends on what causes these issues. But be warned: for recent moins you'll need a more recent python also. And nowadays, you should be running python 2.7 (or 2.6) anyway. If so, then we would first like to test the installation/working of new version(s). Is it possible to install two versions of MoinMoin (and corresponding python) side-by-side on the same machine while not affecting the previous installation (and working) of the software(s). You can install a new python as well as a new moin without causing any interferences if you do it right: you didn't say what your operating system is, so I am assuming you run some linux: python: look for new packages for your distribution. if there aren't any, you could compile e.g. python 2.7 on your own and do make altinstall (that doesn't overwrite the python binary, so your other stuff will continue to work). if you call python afterwards, you will still get the old one, if you call python2.7, you'll get the new one. moin: you can run moin in place without installing it (without using setup.py). just download, unpack and modify sys.path in the moin.wsgi script. -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] SyncWiki problems
1. For a page deleted locally, say, it seems the directory of the corresponding page is still kept, Sure, it keeps all the history there. such that when I run sync, it gives the following error mesg: /EmptyPage: You cannot save empty pages. If you just deleted a page and tried sync, it seems this is a bug. You can work around it by instead of deleting a page, just edit it and write deleted on it. Not pretty, but should work. I am a bit wondering though as this is a rather simple use case and should work... 2. I am currently stumbled at is that sync script reports a page not existing while it actually exists. What strikes me is that some of the pages are being synced like I see BioStat, and the GeneralConcepts/p53 pages on remote wiki, but it always stopped at one certain page, say here is the ProteasesAndFusionTags page. If I delete this page, the sync process will stop another page. Following is the log info from the SyncWiki page. I am really confused. I don't personally use the sync function, but maybe someone else on the ML can help. -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.9.8 release preparations
Moin :), I am currently preparing next moin 1.9.x release. You can help by updating the https://master19.moinmo.in/ wiki - the MoinI18n/xx subpages (PO files with translations) might need some string updates. That wiki and also the moinmo.in wiki run the current code that will go into the release later. If you find issues, file bugs on the https://moinmo.in/ wiki. As usual, the release will have bugfixes, performance improvements and some other changes to fix issues that surfaced in production: Performance === Some sites have issues with performance (moin having a rather high resource consumption). Usually this is triggered by frequent accesses to expensive to compute functionality. moin 1.9.8 has some ways to deal with that: * log_timing - find out what is running slow / running too long * modify backlink rendering (== avoid fullsearches triggered by bots) * some macros/actions check for bots and don't do expensive stuff for them * rss feed and edit-log access is faster Fixes = * won't create tons of (almost) empty pagedirs any more * compat fixes for some newer or older python versions The (more verbose) changelog is there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/tip/docs/CHANGES Cheers, Thomas -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Moin performance desastrous
On 12/16/2013 10:10 AM, Kai Jaeger wrote: I realize that this is probably a Windows or Apache issue rather than a MoinMoin one. Why? Anyway: because I had to through Apache's error as well as the access log I found something strange totally unrelated to my problem: The most popular page on my wiki is: ... - - [16/Dec/2013:09:04:01 +] GET /HelpOnMacros/MonthCalendar/2006-09-29?diffs=1show_att=1action=rss_rcunique=0page=HelpOnMacros%2FMonthCalendar%2F2006-09-29ddiffs=1 HTTP/1.0 503 410 with different dates his page is called EVERY minute 20-30 times, all the time. Likely, some bot gone wild. Notice that the http status is 503 as moin has already activated surge protection against it - so processing such a request shouldn't take long (as you could see when running latest code with timing log enabled). -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Moin performance desastrous
As the Moin sources in MoinMoin.util.filesys say, this is needed for stat, rmdir and mkdir on win32, but I couldn't find any explanation of it or any experiences others have had. I added that (slightly silly) wrapper code long ago because it simply did not work without on windows. I never found out why, except that the root cause is NOT a virus scanner, NOR windows search file indexing. I had both deinstalled / disabled and it still happened. If you could perhaps instrument the failure with some kind of call to see if another process has the file open - maybe Windows even thinks that the same Moin process still has the file open - using the equivalent to the Unix fuser command (or looking in the /proc filesystem), then we might get a better idea of what is going on. Yeah, that might be interesting. If any windows developer could help here, that would be very much appreciated. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Moin performance desastrous
I am suffering from performance problems. Delivery of pages can take up
to 80 seconds. See http://aplwiki.com/
The CPU is kept busy by the http process.
You could enable the timing log feature (see docs/CHANGES in the repo)
to see what requests are really taking long.
I recently also added some features that enable some performance tuning.
http://moinmo.in/HowTo/Tune%20Performance is maybe also interesting.
Often, such stuff is caused by frequent accesses to expensive
functionality (e.g. searches, pagelists, custom dynamic stuff) done by
users or bots.
The repo code should be pretty stable, btw. I plan to do a new release
in the next weeks.
Looking into the ACCESS log nothing obvious caught my eye. The ERROR log
is much more interesting. There are thousands of entries like this:
WARNING MoinMoin.util.filesys:110
mkdir(('...datacacheaplwikipagegroups__lock__write_lock',),
{}) - access denied. retrying...
Windows?
What is going on here?! Advice is welcome.
If you can find out what exactly is causing the access denied I worked
around there, I'ld be glad to hear from you (I couldn't).
Only happens on Windows AFAIK.
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Re: [Moin-user] Enable CKEditor in Moin2
On 12/09/2013 07:13 AM, Tal Hadad wrote: OK I saw this, but yet, isn't there a simple conversion from html to wiki and so reverse like moin 1.9.7? As you may have noticed, this stuff is neither simple nor unproblematic, it had quite some fundamental issues in moin 1.x. Also, (f)ckeditor is javascript stuff, so every customization there needs work in javascript (and I am not a js developer). I read there is a massive work in conversion many formats to DOM and so in reverse, and I wonder if a same page could be edited once in WIKI format and once in HTML format. Theoretically yes, but: * there might be roundtrip issues * there might be fundamental issues * there is a lot of other stuff to do (for me) So, I won't put effort into implementing that in the foreseeable future. If you want to help, you can start improving the converters, looking out for roundtrip issues. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Enable CKEditor in Moin2
How can I enable the CKEditor in Moin2? All I can see is a text editor, under Modify link. If you edit a text/html contenttype item, it should use ckeditor. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] givenauth login
I installed moinmoin1.9.7 to one of my SL6.4 boxes. For authentication I want to use the apache web login. Apache login works, but moinmoin doesn't seem to get the REMOTE_USER. http://modwsgi.readthedocs.org/en/latest/configuration-directives/WSGIPassAuthorization.html maybe you need that? -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Segmentation Fault when trying to run moin.wsgi
I've uninstalled the default apache instalation with: $ apt-get remove --purge apache2* why? ... and compiled/installed Apache 2.4 (installed in /usr/local): if you compile it on your own, you can easily make mistakes or overlook some stuff... 27851:tid 3018517360] 2013-11-22 08:26:56,804 INFO MoinMoin.log:151 using logging configuration read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module OK, looks like your moin is getting invoked correctly. 3075520832] AH00052: child pid 27851 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) segfaults are usually a problem in some non-python code, so this is not a moin problem, but likely apache or mod-wsgi or some library. I'm not experienced enough to debug this through the code, but maybe someone could point me to the right direction? Well, the easiest way is not to compile stuff on your own. If you have good reasons to do so, maybe rather build from a source package from your linux distribution than using a source code archive from apache/mod-wsgi. then, chances are better you have the right dependencies in place, compile with the right options, etc. Is there a way to dump more log messages so I can track where the segfault is happening? You can somehow use gdb and/or a core dump to try to debug such stuff, but don't ask me, I google that myself each time I need it once every few years... -- Shape the Mobile Experience: Free Subscription Software experts and developers: Be at the forefront of tech innovation. Intel(R) Software Adrenaline delivers strategic insight and game-changing conversations that shape the rapidly evolving mobile landscape. Sign up now. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63431311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Google Chrome inserting non breaking space at front of line
Google Chrome converts that leading space to a non-breaking space. Maybe file a bug for chrome? I think a browser textarea control should not change the text you enter in any way. Maybe check if that also happens with a freshly installed chrome (with a fresh profile, standard settings). What I would really like to have happen, is that whenever a wiki page is saved, any non-breaking space characters at the front of lines get automatically replaced with plain old spaces. Is there a recommended way to do this? Look at the SecurityPolicy, iirc it has a save() method that gets called before saving. But that's just a work around, should be fixed where the root cause is. -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] How does MoinMoin know where to look for the wikiconfig.py file?
How does MoinMoin know where to look for the wikiconfig.py file? The code just imports wikiconfig.py (or farmconfig.py) module. Python uses sys.path to search for code modules to import. There is also a environment setting PYTHONPATH where you can set the search path. -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST JSON Services for HTML5 Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hosting. Or install the open source package on any LAMP server. Sign up and see examples for AngularJS, jQuery, Sencha Touch and Native! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=63469471iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] [Student] Want to start contributing to moinmoin
I am a computer engineering student. I know Python and I would like to start contributing to moinmoin. Can you please suggest how can I get started? Join us on IRC #moin-dev on freenode, use moin yourself, read the docs, work with the source, ask questions, try to fix a bug or implement a feature. It would be good if you suggest me some sites to read. http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 (aka moin2, the new stuff) docs, repos, etc. is all linked from there. if you use the old moin (e.g. on a production site), you can also hack that, but we only want fixes for this, no new features. check 2 some bugs in the buglist. But then I was at a dead end about how to solve them as I don't have complete knowledge about moinmoin. See the EasyToDo page on the wiki, these are selected tasks that are maybe easier to solve than others. -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Spam on Moin wikis and anti-spam best practices
perhaps we need safer defaults I don't think we should change defaults within a stable release series. But we can change how example configs look like and document stuff better. Really control registration: for extra control over registration, perhaps use the http://www.moinmo.in/MoinMoinPatch/VerifyAccountCreationByEmail patch to require e-mail verification of account registration. I wouldn't recommend this patch until someone cleans it up (see my comments there), does more testing and reviews the code again. Does anyone have any opinions about the above? Good writeup, should be supplemented with a modified default wiki/farm config. One can add to regularly review logs, esp. after spam gets in. So one can sometimes identify static IP addrs only used for spamming (put them in moin's hosts_deny or handle via web server) and also textchas that have been broken and should be replaced. -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58040911iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Moin2 installation question
I'm writing some automated functional tests using selenium. We met briefly last year, and I've been working doing manual tests for the last 6 months. Sounds like a lot of work. Any results from that? I've started to look again at writing the selenium functional tests. I think it's best to write them for moin version 2 right? Sure, moin 1.x is in maintenance mode, no new stuff there. What is his email address please? Try: crosseyedpenguin AT yahoo DOT com -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Authentication via CAS + authorization (ACL) via AD
Hi Wojtek, I cannot, however, find a way to set up ACLs so that it is possible to assign a given set of permissions to an Active Directory group. I have not set up AD binding yet as all the examples I found are related to only authentication via LDAP/AD. Yes, we support auth against ldap/ad, but there is no official support for ldap groups in moin. There has been some work on ldap groups, though, but it wasn't finished, needs more work and practical testing: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-ldap-kerberos-agrigorev/ To continue that stuff, it would need some people with real interest and some python and ldap/ad knowledge and testing environment. I can help with the moin specific stuff, but I can't help with ldap/ad as I don't work in such an environment. An alternative to that would be to define groups either in the wiki config or on wiki pages, that's the usual way in moin and officially supported. Cheers, Thomas -- Get your SQL database under version control now! Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Question on moin installing
Hi, Just as a note: what you describe is installing moin2 (the pre-alpha unreleased development version). That's fine if you want the bleeding edge stuff, but don't use this for production (but 1.9.7). Also, if you refer to it, please use moin2, so people clearly see what it is about. On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 20:56 +0800, li yan wrote: When I invoke moin in CMD window, I keep getting: 'moin' not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Looks like it is not in the search path. Did you activate the virtualenv in THAT cmd window? Did you cd into the moin-2.0 directory? What I have done as follows: 1. Install python 2.7 by installing python2.7.2.msi 2. Install mercurial 3. Install easy_setup, pip, then virtualenv 4. Downloaded moin-2.0 by typing: hg clone http://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0 moin-2.0 5. cd into moin-2.0 directory, and type: quickinstall.bat 6. Type: env\Scripts\activate.bat to active the virtual environment 7. Type: moin Sounds correct. That's also how it is documented, right? Tested with both 32-bit Windows xp, and 64-bit Windows 7. Same result both times. Strange, Roger Haase developed that stuff and used it personally. I personally don't use Windows, so maybe we should just ask him (email). I have tried several times, uninstalling python completely, and deleting the python27and moin2.0 directory, and completely reinstalling from scratch, but get the same result each time. I suspect that there is either a PATH issue or the script (BAT/CMD) for windows is not created or ... Is there a moin.cmd or moin.bat somewhere on your disk (likely inside the virtual env) that was created by the installation procedure? Cheers, Thomas -- Get your SQL database under version control now! Version control is standard for application code, but databases havent caught up. So what steps can you take to put your SQL databases under version control? Why should you start doing it? Read more to find out. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] moinmoin and xapian unindexable object
I am using MoinMoin 1.8 and ... Is there some special reason you use an outdated / unmaintained version? See also: http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes -- See everything from the browser to the database with AppDynamics Get end-to-end visibility with application monitoring from AppDynamics Isolate bottlenecks and diagnose root cause in seconds. Start your free trial of AppDynamics Pro today! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48808831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Static file server not working
I try to install moinmoin 1.9.7 at my hosted webspace (domainfactory MyHome Plus) using the moin.cgi script. However, the static file server does not seem to work since the wiki pages are not layed out correctly (only text). I already adapted url_prefix_static in wikiconfig.py. I cannot use Alias. Any suggestions? Thanks! If you use cgi, you should somehow directly use the main web server (e.g. apache2) to serve the static files. While it is technically possible to serve the static files with moin using cgi, this is extremly slow (compared to the method above). So I suggest you find out how to serve static files within your hosting package, put the moin static files somewhere in there and adjust url_prefix_static so moin generates matching URLs for that. Moin's static files are found in MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/* - copy all you find there to a directory moin_static_197/ below your documentroot. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Problems after Debian upgrade
MoinMoin, :) Hi all, I got some problems on a MoinMoin 1.97 instance running on a Debian box recently upgraded from sqeeze to wheezy. For every python upgrade, you need to run moin --config-dir=... --wiki-url=http://... maint cleancache for each of your wikis. Run the command using the same user as the moin process owner. I installed MoinMoin some weeks before the upgrade following the great guide on the official website and everything worked like a charm, all problems started since the upgrade. python went from 2.6 to 2.7. - mod_wsgi/3.3 - mod_python/3.3.1 BTW, you never should load mod_wsgi (needed by moin) and mod_python (needed by what?) at the same time. In fact, you should not use mod_python at all any more. It's dead and smells strangely since quite a while. [Tue May 21 23:06:27 2013] [error] [client 192.168.1.200] ImportError: No module named MoinMoin.web.serving For that part, see the other reponse on this list. --- apache configuration WSGIScriptAlias /wiki /usr/local/share/moin/moin.wsgi WSGIDaemonProcess moin user=apache group=apache processes=5 threads=10 maximum-requests=1000 umask=0007 You could use another user/group here, then you have moin stuff separated from other apache stuff. Using moin.moin is even worth it just for the lols. :D Cheers, Thomas -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] Mentors and/or Helpers wanted for Google Summer of Code 2013
MoinMoin! ;) It looks like one of our mentors suddenly has much less time for mentoring, so we could need some help from the community, see there: https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2013 Cheers, Thomas -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] LDAP authentification and ACL
I've managed to get LDAP authentification to work with my MoinMoin installation by using the following code in Apache configuration: Location /wiki1 AuthName Wiki wiki1 AuthType Basic AuthBasicProvider ldap AuthLDAPGroupAttribute memberUid AuthLDAPGroupAttributeIsDN off AuthLDAPUrl ldap://10.27.21.6/dc=ldap,dc=c2c?uid??(|(gidNumber=1029)(sambaSID=*)) http://10.27.21.6/dc=ldap,dc=c2c?uid??(|(gidNumber=1029)(sambaSID=*)) Require ldap-group cn=dev,ou=Groups,dc=ldap,dc=c2c Require ldap-group cn=mapfish,ou=Groups,ou=Externals,dc=ldap,dc=c2c Require ldap-group cn=sitev5,ou=Groups,ou=Externals,dc=ldap,dc=c2c /Location From moin's perspective, this is GivenAuth (done by the web server), not ldap (done by moin). Does anybody have an idea of how I could achieve to have a readonly group ? No matter for me if it is managed with apache or with moinmoin. There is no support for ldap groups in moin. There was a project about this some years ago, but it wasn't finished. The code still exists on hg.moinmo.in. So, your only choice right now is to create a group either on a page or in your wiki config. Cheers, Thomas -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Wiki Project Idea Python 3.x porting
Hello MoinMoin Wiki developers I need to talk about some of the Project Ideas that has been marked with this image /!\ Please ask on IRC channel #moin-dev - ask very SPECIFIC questions (give URLs, give good citation) and wait for the answer. This will be much faster than here. -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_apr ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] [GSoC] Network API project
Hi Rubén, If someone can recommend some issue to get started working in the project I will be very grateful. Well, it's a bit hard to recommend something without knowing you better, what interests and capabilities you have. So maybe just browse the issue tracker and if you have specific questions about an issue, ask on IRC #moin-dev. Also, hang out with us there in general, communication there usually works faster than via ML. Cheers, Thomas -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Some crawler makes MonthCalendar produce endless pages, even thought not logged in
Hi, It happened once, now I'm seeing happening again: some web crawler ... are a PITA. :| stumbled across our MoinMoin wiki (1.9.4), and the auto-generated pages keep sprouting, It's not really (valid) pages, right? But just directories with an empty edit-log I guess? eventually filling up a directory (32k files): Use moin ... maint cleanpage to periodically clean up until you have installed the fix. After seeing that problem getting worse, I recently found and fixed the issue: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/6489ec33874d It should at least help for some cases, esp. if there are no write permissions for the visitors creating such pagedirs. It can't help for cases when people (bots) really start editing, but never cancel or save. According to apache log, the crawler keeps doing http GET requests like these: GET .../HelpOnMacros/MonthCalendar?calparms=HelpOnMacros/ MonthCalendar,2001,12,2,-51,,,MonthCalendarTemplate HTTP/1.1 Yeah, spidering gone wild. If the bot is too much of a pain, you can try adding it to robots.txt and if that doesn't help, hosts_deny and/or ua_spiders. Other page creation is restricted by only allowing a POST request from internal networks, and page creation is restricted to logged-in (Known) users. What you see is not creation of a real page, it was just a bug in the backend code leading to (more or less) empty pagedirs. Since the MonthCalendar macro is not actually needed, perhaps it should just be disabled entirely. What is the proper way of doing that? As it is a builtin macro, you would either have to remove it from MoinMoin/macro/... or put a macro of same name (but not doing same thing) into data/plugin/macro/... But first try the patch, I guess it should help. BTW, check if your moin has all the security patches needed, see: https://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes Cheers, Thomas -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Running MoinMoin on an Android Smartphone
Moin Peter, I'm writing to ask for help installing MoinMoin on a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Hehe. /me has a Galaxy Note 1. ;) I now want to run it on my Galaxy Note 2 under Android. I plan to store my data on Dropbox (or the Google cloud-drive) so I can get at it from all my machines. For moin 1.x you would need something that is very close to a real filesystem. Even NFS doesn't work under all circumstances. You also need something that is rather fast. I think adapting the moin1 storage to anything else than a real filesystem would be a major pain, so better don't try that. moin 2 is more flexible on the storage layer and we already have support for quite different storage methods, but not for any remote cloud storage. You maybe could implement a key-value store based on some cloud service for its storage. You'ld either need to rebuild whoosh index after each change in the storage or put the whoosh index into the cloud, too, and write a whoosh backend, too. But be aware that moin2 is not production ready yet, but rather for developers and adventurous users. About the android stuff: I never tried moin on android, but there is sl4a and python4android, so MAYBE it could work. One always has to ask the question, whether that makes SENSE or whether it is not much easier to just have connectivity to ONE server running moin and accessing it via some client software (browser or other). Has anyone done this? If so may I ask either for directions or for some hints? https://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 In the repo, it is MoinMoin/storage/stores/... Cheers, Thomas -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Looking for a better template in the subscription e-mail
Is there way to change the subscription mail template . Not easily. I am looking for something more friendly and easy to understand the changes . So that somebody make some changes in the post then the subscribed users will get a friendly notification . Currently its showing diff output and its not easy to understand the non techie people . Is there a way to get a colored diff output , just like git diff . For the web UI, we have some html diff code, that does this. But we do not send HTML emails. BUT, there is a link to that html diff view inside the text email, you just need to click on it. Also, some people dislike HTML emails or maybe even can handle the coloured stuff worse than the techie diff stuff. So we would need another user setting for this preference? Or send multipart email with text AND html? Considering that moin 1.9.x is stable, I only see room for rather small changes / contributions, but you can help to make moin2 better by helping to think about such stuff (on a rather detailled level) and/or contribute some code that implements it. -- Own the Future-Intelreg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Farmwiki configuration in Windows
Hi Allan, I am trying to install a Moin 1.9.6 wikifarm on my Windows 7 box for personal use. I got the single wiki using the built-in web server going just fine. ... which uses / as the URL root of the wiki. I am now trying to expand that to several wikis. I think I am close, but missing one concept. I get from the request, thru farmwiki, to the ScrumWiki.py, but not to individual pages. The first one I am trying set up, I want to access via localhost:8080/ScrumWiki My wikis = [ (scrumwiki, r^http://localhost:8080/ScrumWiki/.*$;), ] Please note that these regexes just DISPATCH to the correct individual wiki's config. They do NOT set up serving the wiki at that url. The builtin server by default serves localhost:8080/PageName. What you are trying here is to do path-based farming and I don't think the builtin server supports that. What you could do instead is hostname-based farming, by giving the localhost IP some more names (edit hosts file of your OS) and dispatch by hostname then. If I go to http://localhost:8080/ScrumWiki, the URL is not found. Fair enough. Yes, the regex wants that / at the end (at least). If I visit http://localhost:8080/ScrumWiki/FooBar it get what looks like an unformatted wiki page, I assume it is a MissingPage page If I use its link to create a page, I get Foo(2f)Bar under \pages and I can't visit that. if I copy a page from the old wikiconfig.py wiki into \pages, it isn't found either. As it does not really KNOW that that wiki is rooted at .../ScrumWiki/, it thinks the pagename is ScrumWiki/Foo/Bar (not Foo/Bar). Usually, SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO environment is used to decide what is what. I wanted to use the built in web server for simplicity. Yes, I see that. But please note that this builtin server is mostly intended for simple setups, testing, development and not really intended for farms, production or bigger stuff. In general, path-based farming is a bit more complicated to set up than hostname based farming. If I really can't use the built-in for a farm, I'll probably try to use tomcat 7. I assume that is wsgi. The only thing I know about tomcat is that it is java stuff, so I wouldn't assume it supports wsgi (but I really don't know). But aside from apache2/mod-wsgi, nginx/uwsgi, there are multiple python wsgi servers out there, just google for python wsgi server or so. I personally usually use apache2/mod-wsgi for production and builtin server for development, so I personally can't help much with other stuff. The wsgi server usually has some documentation about how to get a standard wsgi app working. moin is such a standard wsgi app. Cheers, Thomas -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Support for LDAP groups?
Hi Philip, According to http://moinmo.in/HelpOnGroups, moinmoin can use group definitions from other sources. However, there doesn't seem to be any documentation on how this can be achieved. I'd like to implement groups from OpenID or LDAP, although I suspect OpenID doesn't provide any group membership information, in which case it would need to be LDAP. There is no ready-to-use code for ldap groups. There was some work on ldap groups in summer of code, see there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-ldap-kerberos-agrigorev/ But at the end, we did not merge that code as it was not tested enough (and maybe also not developed enough or even not working, i don't remember exactly). If you want to help with that, have a look there and contact us if you have questions / need help, e.g. on #moin-dev on freenode IRC. For openid, please have a look at the respective code yourself. We have simple user auth with openid, we have openid server builtin and (IIRC) there was some special stuff done by a ubuntu developer for some launchpad stuff related to groups. Cheers, Thomas -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Cannot Edit Wiki Pages
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 01:32 +0200, Lighton Phiri wrote: I am in the process of resuscitating/upgrading a legacy Moin Moin wiki (1.5.8) [1] to the latest version. However, before I perform the upgrade, I've been trying to perform basic test to ensure all is well. I cannot edit existing pages nor can I create new ones... If you can see them, it sounds like a permissions issue in the filesystem. Make sure everything is r/w (and directories also x) for the user/group the wiki process runs under. After that, check your wiki configuration settings in case there is something strange in there. Check if your moin version supported access control lists (ACLs) and if so, check if they allow write. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Excluding twikidraw and anywikidraw
On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 08:56 +, Kai Jaeger wrote: I've done exactly what was suggested to fix the security issue: actions_excluded = ['newaccount', 'RenderAsDocbook', 'SyncPages', 'xmlrpc', 'PackagePages', 'Raw Text', 'twikidraw', 'anywikidraw', ] but the page is rendered without an error message, see the bottom of this page http://sandbox.aplwiki.com/TestPage1 I get unknown action twikidraw now, so it looks like you found why it did not work. You may want to read SecurityFixes again, there were more changes recently. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] remote code execution vulnerability in moin 1.9.x
See there for details and hints what to do about it: http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes If you haven't done it already: subscribe to the page if you are interested in security updates. I'll update the page when more informations related to this are available. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Wiki restore - 1.5.8 to 1.8.5
On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 12:23 +0200, Lighton Phiri wrote: I am working with version 1.8.5 and would like to restore wiki data from an older version --1.5.8. I came across this [1] page but it hasn't been very helpful. You shouldn't run 1.8.x, it is not maintained any more and has known issues. Soon there will be a new 1.9.6 release that fixes severe security issues. What steps do I have to take to move data from the older version to the newer one? Read docs/update.html (in our download archive). Can I just move the data directory? No, you should always run the migration scripts. Can I just restore pages without restoring users? The mig scripts always deal with pages (and attachments) AND users. [1] http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/admin/backup.html That is moin2 related stuff, it does not apply to moin 1.x.x. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] CGI Internal Errors on Shared Server
On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 09:55 +0200, Lighton Phiri wrote: I've just started playing around with MoinMoin. I managed to set up an instance on my local machine, however getting it to work on a shared server platform has been really hard... Some of the rather cheap hosters don't support python well. Running bigger python apps in CGI mode is rather slow, so the preferred method is using stuff like mod-wsgi (with apache2) or other stuff that stays resident in memory and does not start/terminate for every single request. But I now that on cheap hosting, stuff like that might be not available. [Sat Dec 29 02:12:25 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File does not exist: /home/opensour/public_html/404.shtml [Sat Dec 29 02:12:25 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File does not exist: /home/opensour/public_html/favicon.ico [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File does not exist: /home/opensour/public_html/500.shtml [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/formparser.py, line 16, in ? [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/wrappers.py, line 35, in ? [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/test.py, line 23, in ? [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/__init__.py, line 119, in __getattr__ [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/web/contexts.py, line 13, in ? [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py, line 14, in ? [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/web/serving.py, line 82, in make_application [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/web/frontend.py, line 36, in run [Sat Dec 29 02:12:24 2012] [error] [client 137.158.153.205] File /home/opensour/moin/MoinMoin/web/flup_frontend.py, line 135, in run That somehow looks incomplete. If you could put the complete traceback on a pastebin, that would be helpful. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Excluding twikidraw and anywikidraw
I haven't changed anything since I wrote the mail, and it still works for me. Maybe browser caching? I just tried again. Neither twikidraw nor anywikidraw nor moinexec action works for me on that url: http://sandbox.aplwiki.com/TestPage1 (note: there is some strange looking crap above the drawing links, it maybe would be simpler if that was removed) -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122912 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Dealing with spammers who create pages.
Hi Steven, I just followed the directions and asked dumb questions; What comes after Wednesday? What are trees made of? etc... Don't the directions say ask site-specific questions? Where did you read about dumb questions? Asking too common-sense questions may keep out some robots, but i think since quite a while spammers use hybrid setups. Like spamming with robots, but assisting them with humans (to get those questions answered). So rather ask questions that your visitors are able to answer, but not someone who has nothing to do with your site / topic. Over time, Textchas turned out to be a failure. The total number of people who create accounts and succeed at adding a page to sell their candles or dick cream or real estate scams was averaging out to over 25+ per day, with around double that in new accounts and failed page creation. Very annoying. Well, that just means that your questions maybe have been too easy / too common-sense and you need to get some better ones. If you recognize that some question is answered by spammers, just remove it and add a more difficult one. You can remove ALL common-sense questions. Also, do not keep a single too-easy question, otherwise the spammers will just retry and retry until they get the easy one. Then I came up with a simple solution that works *for me*. Your situation make not make this helpful *to you*: I changed the Textcha questions to be of *local* relevance. I can do this because the wiki I have is intended for people who are *local*. Yeah, much better. Often spammers (of people willingly or unwillingly helping them) have no clue about what they are spamming. Or they just go away if the question is not answered in 2 seconds. Cheers, Thomas -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Please use the interactive user interface to use action edit!
On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 20:13 +, Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm getting this error message while editing one of the pages on our internal wiki, but it only seems to happen on one page and I'm not sure what makes it different. That might just look like that. Please use the interactive user interface to use action edit! That means that it did not find the token that was part of the edit form you got for editing. Or the token was invalid because it was modified or just too old. That stuff (IIRC) is for 2 purposes: to make it a bit harder for spammers and to avoid CSRF attacks. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Lost Moin-Moin central wiki
Recently I upgraded to version 1.9.5 after many happy years with 1.8.*. When I did so I lost all my personal modifications (page layout, etc) If you are speaking of a custom theme, you likely need to update it for 1.9. Same is true for some other extensions, esp. if they access stuff in the request object (as moin 1.9 is using werkzeug/wsgi there, which is different from the custom stuff we had before). but, worst of all, I lost connectivity to the central wiki on which most of the documentation can be found. For example, a title search on format comes up empty. A text search returns only pages from my local wiki. This is way too unspecific and lacking important information to post any really helpful answer. -- Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: INSIGHTS What's next for parallel hardware, programming and related areas? Interviews and blogs by thought leaders keep you ahead of the curve. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] moin-moin under Android?
Has anyone run moin-moin under Android? Not me. I have this vision of running it from DropBox on both my Mac and my Android Samsung Galaxy Note II. I have a Galaxy Note (N7000) and love it, but I would not even think of running moin on it. A wiki usually is a server side software, so installing it on every client and syncing data between all those clients sounds like a pain compared to just using clients as clients and accessing the wiki on the server. So all problems you'ld have with installing moin on arbitrary client devices go away if you just create CONNECTIVITY to your server instead. -- Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: INSIGHTS What's next for parallel hardware, programming and related areas? Interviews and blogs by thought leaders keep you ahead of the curve. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Request to setup moinmoin ldap intergraion
2) Linux : CentOS 5.8 , 64 bit Please note that CentOS 5 has rather old/outdated python support and may cause problems or a lot of manual work due to this. About getting ldap to work: this is mostly an issue about the right parameters and they are specific to your ldap server configuration. Maybe just try the parameters you have using some ldap client tool (like ldapsearch), whether they really work. If you get THAT working, try again with moin. Usually it is just some parameter being wrong. I couldnt see any logs in the Apache error logs and in the ldap.log of the ldap server ( I couldnt even see that the moinmoin is connecting to the ldap server from the logs ) You can reconfigure moin's logging level (see logging.conf). There is a special logging.conf sample in the download archive for auth debugging (see wiki/server/config/... or so). -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] Preparing MoinMoin 1.9.5
Hi, just wanted to note that I am currently preparing a 1.9.5 release, which is currently being tested. If you'ld like to help testing it before it is released, join us on #moin-dev IRC channel. Testing is especially needed for running moin on older pythons (like 2.4 or 2.5) and for the not-so-commonly used features that were changed/fixed recently. See there for the changes: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/tip/docs/CHANGES Cheers, Thomas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] MoinMoin developers visiting California
(Also copying it here to reach maybe some moin users in CA.) Hi Python hackers, Wiki lovers, Web developers, geeks, designers, I just wanted to ask if there is some interest in MoinMoin Wiki within your group? MoinMoin is a wiki engine written in Python and we are currently working on the next major release of it (moin2), which will be quite different and much more powerful than the 1.x stuff you maybe already know. We use quite some external libraries / frameworks now (like flask, werkzeug, jinja2, ...), see the link below. It's not production ready yet, but ready for hacking and UI style improvements. Some details about it and some more links can be found there: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 Two MoinMoin core developers (Bastian Blank and me) will be in California from Oct. 12 to 26 for Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit, travelling around by car, having some [sf]un and meeting other geeks. :) Our route will be something like: Oct 12 arrival at San Francisco Airport ... (not decided yet) Oct 19 evening .. Oct 21 evening MENTOR SUMMIT (Mountain View) ... (not decided yet) Oct 26 departure from San Francisco Airport I posted this to: * baypiggies ML * socal-piggies ML * noisebridge-discuss ML So, if this sounds interesting, please reply (and maybe also tell what's your field of interest / whether you are already familiar with moin/moin2 - we can talk about everything, but if we have some specific topics and know how deep it can get, it might get more interesting). If there is enough interest, maybe we can arrange something. BTW, we are on IRC quite often, you can meet us on #moin or #moin-dev on chat.freenode.net (have some patience, we are not always staring at the channel :). Cheers, Thomas Bastian -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
[Moin-user] moin 1.9.x security issue
For all of you who did not subscribe to the wiki page yet, I just wanted to point you there: http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes See there for more details. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Wiki migration and synchronization
I have a wiki that I maintain on a standalone basis that needs to migrate into a wiki farm on our web server. Aside from the issue you already solved, there is another one: you have 2 user bases (one in your farm wiki, one in your standalone wiki). So if you just copy the data/pages from standalone into the farm, the history will lose all user names (as they point to the standalone user base). You also can not just copy the standalone user base into the farm, as this might create duplicates. Unfortunately, there is no wiki merge script yet that can automatically or semi-automatically deal with such stuff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Diffs sent by e-mail, fancy diffs...
being able to use wdiff would reallybe helpful in he project e use moins for, here. Well, I'll have a look at this. It is unlikely that we will call a external binary (like wdiff) though (as this is usually a platform dependant pain), but I'll search whether it can be solved in python (painless for everybody). I personally don't use email notifications a lot, I usually read changes on the web interface (RecentChanges page, using bookmarks). I just checked the non-fancy diff and it is really not that usable for long lines, so maybe it should be worked on to improve it. No promises though, I am currently primarily working on moin2 (not 1.x), but if I find something easy and you could help us with testing it, it could be improved for everybody including blind / vision impaired people. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Diffs sent by e-mail, fancy diffs...
Hi Shérab, I'm wondering what the fancy diff feature does. IIRC it is displaying 2 column html diffs (yellow/green) instead of a simple text diff (like on the console). I enabled it but the diffs I receive by e-mail when a page is changed are just the plain old diffs. IIRC, it is only on the web. We do not send html emails, just text. I'm currently using moin to work on a book. The paragraphs are not formatted, meaning that a paragraph is just one very long line. Well, the diff is just using the text data as you entered it. If you just enter all text in one line, diff will see that as one line. If that's a problem, you could hit ENTER now and then, do hard format the paragraph in the wiki markup text. The output will still be a single paragraph (it only splits paragraphs if you hit ENTER 2 times). So wen I receive diffs, it is practically impossible for me to figure out where the changes have occurred. Isn't there also a URL (link) in the email, so you could just view the fancy diff on the web, it should be better visible there. Cheers, Thomas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Empty directories
Hello Kai, I looked at this issue today and was able to reproduce it: If one starts editing a new page, a page directory with 2 files edit-lock (with locking infos) and edit-log (still empty) is created. If the edit is either cancelled or the window is just closed, that pagedir and the edit-log file are left on disk. This issue is not windows specific, it also happens on POSIX systems. It might be hard to fix this in 1.9 (and moin2 works very different anyway, so that problem does not exist there), so the suggested workaround is to just use moin ... maint cleanpage. cleanpage currently outputs a cleanup script for POSIX OSes, but it should be rather easy to modify cleanpage.py so it works on all OSes. IIRC, i chose that script way back then so it is possible to review all those modifications before really doing them on the filesystem. Some new --move-crap and --move-deleted options could directly do the stuff using python stdlib. Compatibility has to be kept in mind, so the behaviour of this script does not change for people already using it. Anybody volunteering for modifying it like that? Patches/Changesets are welcome! Cheers, Thomas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Empty directories
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 10:25 -0500, Rick Vanderveer wrote: Errr... the bug I'm thinking of was back from an early 1.8 or earlier release a few years ago. Sorry about that! There was such a bug in 1.7.1 (see 1.7.1 docs/CHANGES entries). BTW, it isn't that much important which moin version you run now, but rather which you ran at the time all those empty dirs / files were created. MAYBE the timestamps there tell something, maybe not. This can be used to clean up the crap (at least on Posix OS, needs code changes or at least editing of the output script on Windows): moin ... maint cleanpage -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Diagnose and fix performance problems?
I guess FastCGI is supposed to be a long-running process in principle; however, I just learned from the folks who administer the servers that our FastCGI processes are automatically terminated after 15 minutes of inactivity and must be relaunched upon the next visit after that. This is definitely one cause of the sluggishness, That sounds a bit weird. Usually startup of such a process should take less than a second (assuming that the machine is not totally overloaded) and afterwards it should be quick as long as you use it. So I have doubts this really is your problem. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] xapian search: an unhandled win32 exception occurred in w3wp.exe
I did file a bug at http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs regarding the issue. The page name of the bug is 1.9.3XapianNoIndexUpdateAtPageIfRunningIIS. Would it be possible to rename the page to 1.9.3XapianNoIndexUpdateAtPageChangeIfRunningIIS to make it a bit more meaningful. Sure, just rename it (you need to be logged in). -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Diagnose and fix performance problems?
Hi Chris, I used MoinMoin to build a website for my former research group at MIT, and it has worked well for them so far (http://juanesgroup.mit.edu). The servers are internal to MIT and we have limited control over them. Nicely themed moin 1.9.4. :) As it stands, the website has some performance problems -- sometimes it's quick, and sometimes it takes 10 seconds or more to load a page. I'm looking for suggestions on how to diagnose and fix this sluggishness. It could stem from the servers, from MoinMoin, or from less-than-optimal HTML, CSS, javascript, or Moin configuration that I did myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated -- thanks! Well, without more infos and without server shell access it is a bit hard to help. Look into web server logs (apache access log / error log), compare times when wiki is fast to times when it is slow. Did you use apache/mod-wsgi or cgi? cgi is slow. Look at machine load (linux: top) when wiki is fast vs. when wiki is slow. Look which process is eating cpu. Is it when you are doing specific wiki requests? Like after saving? If you can't get it solved, talk to me. Cheers, Thomas -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Diagnose and fix performance problems?
Did you use apache/mod-wsgi or cgi? cgi is slow. Our servers do not offer mod_wsgi, so I think we're currently using some sort of WSGI-- Fast CGI wrapper. Could this be a major cause of the problems? Well, I can't tell much about the layers below moin (esp. not for software I do not use myself), but in principle, fastcgi should be of almost same performance as mod-wsgi. A little more software (likely flup) in between moin and web server, but still fast. Plain CGI (not fastcgi) means loading and initializing all the code for each request and terminating after that one request is processed. FastCGI as well as mod-wsgi means long-running processes which are only rarely terminated and restarted and thus is much faster and less overhead. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Patches to moin-2.0
Thanks! And while I also added patches to the ones I was able to deal with, I was wondering if there is maybe a better way to help. Shall I create a patch queue on bitbucket? You can just clone my moin-2.0 bitbucket repo (which is a mirror of the official moin/2.0 repo), update your clone with changesets and send me a pull request there. It seems better than forking since there are a lot of little things with no relation to each other and having 10 different forks seems strange. Well, maybe just do one thing after the other. :) What it the preferred way to cooperate, get feedback etc.? If you'ld like code review, use http://codereview.appspot.com/ and for quicker communication join us on #moin-dev on IRC. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] xapian search: an unhandled win32 exception occured in w3wp.exe
is there anybody out there who knows details about the xapian integration into moin? While I didn't do changes recently, I worked quite a bit on that code some time ago. Yesterday I have reported that xapian index is not updated when a page is changed. Instead the webserver (IIS 7.5) reports an unhandled exception. I can't help you with IIS specific issues, I never used it (nor would I ever use it). Exception RuntimeError: 'maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object' in type 'exceptions.AttributeError' ignored IIRC, i had a look at that a while ago and somehow I got the impression that it is a harmless python bug and can be ignored. - after trying to update a page over the web a search for content of this page does not show any result. Even page content already searchable prior to the page change cannot the searched anymore. Hmm, that's strange. - When I now run the commandline script for the page I tried to update over the web the moin.log file shows that there is more than one update queued. 2012-04-25 17:03:17,438 MoinMoin.search.Xapian.indexing DEBUG updated xapian index with 2 queued updates The number of queued updates for a page can be increased by trying to update the page over the web several times. Sounds like it never processes (empties) the queue. I am really interested in solving the issue. If someone could give me a hint how to further troubleshoot it would be highly appreciated. Well, if you want to help debugging this / determining the circumstances, trying this comes to mind: * maybe use a more recent python 2.x version * try without IIS (try to reproduce with standalone server or apache2 + mod-wsgi) * try a later / different xapian version * can you reproduce on moinmo.in site? Please also file a bug report about this on the wiki (see MoinMoinBugs page) and provide all details the template asks for (and everything else you could find out). -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Very slow page saving caused by notifications
i had a quick look at the subscribed users caching patch and I suspect that might not be the case there. Hmmm. It seems to work fine for me in testing, but it's possible that testing hasn't exercised all paths yet. Any suggestions on where to check? Check for race conditions / multi-threading/processing issues. What happens if 2 cache updates happen at about the same time? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Very slow page saving caused by notifications
There are probably other areas of Moin that could benefit from Xapian-based indexing, but this certainly looks like a good application of it. Some notes: search / indexing = xapian is not a requirement for moin 1.9, but an option. thus, there is alternative code in moin (for searching) so it works if you do not have xapian. xapian is a binary dependency - you either need a package or a compiler. due to the 2 distinct codes (indexed vs. non-indexed) for searching with and without xapian, there are some fundamental differences in how one can use it and what one can expect from it. in moin 2, we have replaced xapian by whoosh (which is pure-python, so we were able to just REQUIRE it). this will fix quite some of the issues we have seen in moin 1.x relating to indexing, queries and search. i have done a few benchmarks and whoosh was surprisingly fast (not as fast as xapian sometimes, but also not much slower). in moin2, we use whoosh for all sorts of internal lookups as well as for the search you can do from the UI. all stuff (users, pages, attachments) in moin2 is stored into typed items/revisions (which have metadata and data) and metadata and (filtered) data gets indexed. that makes life much easier for the developers as there is less and simpler code now. caching === sometimes stuff can be accelerated by adding a cache. but if you have a cache, you always have to make sure it is consistent with the real data. i had a quick look at the subscribed users caching patch and I suspect that might not be the case there. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Windows and case sensitive Pages
At least this behaviour is unexpected. Not quite. Windows filesystem lookups are case-insensitive, but it stores case. Search code often does case-insensitive matching to make searching easier (some search code even lowercases everything before putting it into the index, e.g. xapian). It looks as if there is some part of MoinMoin case sensitive while other parts are case insensitive (due to the filesystem). Usually moin works case-sensitive (search see above). If your filesystem does not support that, we can't do much about it. For next major release (MoinMoin 2.0), this problem will go away, as we do not map page/attachment names to the filesystem any more. The same is true for non-ascii filenames for attachments. In moin2, names of items (== pages / attachments) will be stored into metadata and are not used to make up the filenames, so one does not have to deal with such filesystem limitations any more. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Import Problem
This is happening because the default python is 2.4. I ran setup with the path to 2.6 but apparently that wasn't enough. I installed functools for 2.4 but that didn't work, either. Ideas? For the moin 1.9.4 download you need at least python 2.5 (due to requirements of the bundled libraries we depend on). Also, you should of course use the same python for installing moin and running moin. -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] No icons css following install
A general question: if you are running this on a win xp machine, couldn't you just use the wikiserver.py? Would be much easier than configuring apache as this runs out of the box if you just unpack the download archive of moin. Your primary problem seems to be some server stuff (not moin) is not configured correctly, the :3128 in your URL seems also a little strange (are you using a proxy?). Instead of using moin.cgi, you should use apache with mod_wsgi and moin.wsgi, that is much faster. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Encoding Problem
If I start the standalone server (wikiserver.py), everything works fine. That is because nothing is getting in between then. :) On windows you can get quite some strange behaviours that are due to windows bugs and limitation (and in your case maybe also due to how cgi works). Did I miss some configuration (apache or MoinMoin)? You could try mod_wsgi and moin.wsgi, MAYBE that works better. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] integrated authentication (Moin, Bugzilla, Gitosis, etc)
I'm guessing that is the case, but as it will be a publicly accessible system, it is quite possible there will be people with the same name - any suggestions on how to handle this in a nice way? Use their middle initials or some other way to make the name unique. My original plan was to have the users do all registration through one form (in other words, avoid repetition) Well, then I suggest you make sure stuff is unique at registration time. I wasn't keen on that option, but I am keen to centralise other settings too, such as user timezone. Moin isn't the only app that needs that setting. I want to be sure that: I you use a custom auth method for moin, you can keep stuff in sync with your centralised system. E.g. ldap_login does that, but you can update user profiles in the same way in a custom auth method for your centralised system. b) if I can achieve (a), then I do not want the user changing such settings in Moin, as their changes would be lost on the next login You can configure moin so some settings are disabled (not changeable). Could ACLs and everything else in Moin use the email address in place of the name value? Maybe, I never tried that. I guess it would be ugly and also a problem if an email address changes, then you'ld have to change acls and group pages also. GivenAuth - use some given user name (e.g. apache REMOTE_USER). Can optionally strip windows or email domain, remove blanks, titlecase. There are a lot of apache modules you can use this with, but the only thing moin will get from this is a authenticated user name. Rather than just stripping the email domain, can it search the user data files to match on email address? I don't think so, but a good and well-tested patch to search in name and in email fields would be a considerable contribution. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] integrated authentication (Moin, Bugzilla, Gitosis, etc)
- Moin uses a numeric `user id' value that appears in the page revisions, and then it stores email address, name (e.g. DanielPocock) and an alias For the usual login (MoinAuth), moin asks for name and password. Based on that, it looks up the corresponding user profile and puts the userid (filename of the profile) into the session cookie. There are quite some other auth methods, though, see MoinMoin/auth/... - can anyone point me to an existing howto or blog about building something like this? There are likely no howtos fur such complex/specific stuff. You can try google, though. - although they do not appear to be the primary key, do the `name' and `alias' values have to be unique? name is checked for uniqueness. Otherwise one would be in trouble with ACLs. You shouldn't use alias for anything except being some sort of display name - e.g. in case the login name is cryptic. E.g. name == jd001, alias == Joe Doe I'm guessing that is the case, but as it will be a publicly accessible system, it is quite possible there will be people with the same name - any suggestions on how to handle this in a nice way? Use their middle initials or some other way to make the name unique. - management of the user files: I notice Moin creates a file for each user: is it better to let Moin manage these files (e.g. creating/updating them on each login attempt), or to write a script to create them pro-actively when a user is registered in the central system? You for sure should let moin do that. MoinMoin's auth methods usually have some autocreate flag that let them autocreate the user profile if it does not already exist. In general you rather should NOT access moin's storage files directly. You could do that, but if something goes wrong, you own the pieces. - can I keep the users in a MySQL or Postgres table rather than having them in disk files? No. BTW, those files moin is using for users serve 2 purposes: a) they are used to store the encrypted password for MoinAuth. Note that you are not required to use MoinAuth, there are other auth methods also. b) they are referred from the session's userid and store all sorts of other user profile / user related data that is needed by moin. - I want to allow the users to have both password and OpenID access - and I thought that maybe I can just enable OpenID in Moin, my central registration system could act as OpenID provider for the password-authenticated users, and the users who have OpenID could authenticate directly: but using OpenID URL's as identifiers, do the users still potentially need unique WikiNames as well? Yes, usernames in the wiki need to be unique as they might be used in ACLs. Any feedback is really appreciated, and however I get this up and running, I am also keen to document it and share some of the scripts that are developed. You have to differentiate whether you do SSO (single sign on, one login total, everything else is automatic) or just have a common place where you keep accounts and passwords and against which you can authenticate, but you still log into each system separately. Of course SSO is more comfortable, but also it is more effort to get it. Looking at what moin can already do: GivenAuth - use some given user name (e.g. apache REMOTE_USER). Can optionally strip windows or email domain, remove blanks, titlecase. There are a lot of apache modules you can use this with, but the only thing moin will get from this is a authenticated user name. CAS authentication - against a CAS server (don't ask me about that, looks like it could be helpful) ldap_login - LDAP server = common place to store credentials and some user profile data (like email address), but no SSO with non-moin systems openidrp - does OpenID auth (try it, can't help much with that either) sslclientcert - uses SSL client certs for auth MoinAuth - direct login into moin, does not help you http basic auth done by moin - does not help you interwiki auth - does not help you for integration with non-moin systems mysql_group - does not help (don't ask me about that) php_session - made to read the session cookie of eGroupware smb_mount - special, does not help you Other than these, you can write your own MoinMoin auth module (and do whatever you want there) or modify an existing auth method, if you need it slightly different. Basic Python skills needed. If you run multipe moin wikis, they can share the cookie (the session) and the user profiles. Make sure you do that right from the beginning or it will have diverging userids. The MoinMoin.user module has some lookup functions to find users not only by name, but also by email or openid address. If you need help, feel free to join us on #moin on chat.freenode.net IRC channel. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on
Re: [Moin-user] no space left on device but plenty of disk space.
Probably you are right. Is it possible to explicitly set a location where Moin stores it's temporary files? Try setting the TMPDIR, TEMP or TMP environment variables (for the moin process). -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Mar 27 - Feb 2 Save $400 by Jan. 27 Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev2 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] wiki does not display the latest revision of a page
Would I have to stop the wiki software to run the maint cleancache command or can I run it while the wiki is running? While it might work while running the wiki engine, you better stop it to make sure there is no interference and really all gets cleaned up. It's usually just a matter of seconds. -- Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] wiki does not display the latest revision of a page
thanks for the tip I did carry out the Delete Cache command from the more options menu and it apparently solved the problem. Is every user who has read,write,delete,revert,admin rights for the page able to carry out the Delete Cache command? Yes, you do not even need admin for that. If you have more pages with that issue, you could also do a moin ... maint cleancache on the shell. -- 10 Tips for Better Server Consolidation Server virtualization is being driven by many needs. But none more important than the need to reduce IT complexity while improving strategic productivity. Learn More! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51507609/ ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] Caching generated content from a parser
At the moment, I generate the key using self.raw (the raw data from the formatter) but that means that every time the data changes, a new cache entry is created and the old one is never removed. Well, if one needs to reclaim the disk space, one could just kill all the caches. Caches should not be authoritative, so they will rebuild then automatically. Although this is not super-clean, it is maybe much simpler than implementing some complex thing to manage this. Especially considering that moin2 might be very different then. PS I have a feeling all of this would be much easier in Moin 2, with its mimetype items, but I get the feeling that Moin 2 is still a reasonable way away from being ready for production use, so I think I have to stick with 1.9 for this :-( Yes, if you need it in production mode quickly, use 1.9. See also the hints about that on the MoinMoin2.0 wiki page. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
Re: [Moin-user] using Xapian search
So, an uppercase letter is an indicator that the indexer should treat this as a word (until the next uppercase letter) as if there was white space. It would seem that hyphens and underscores have a similar effect. It's not just upper/lowercase transitions. IIRC, it also tries to split off numbers, split at blanks, punctuation, etc. - for details maybe have a look at the tokenizer. Generally speaking, moin tries its best to have a language-independant tokenization. It does NOT break it down to arbitrary character combinations, of course (like splitting foobar into foob and ar), the cost (time/size) for that is simply much too high, especially if you consider that there are languages that build rather long words naturally, like german. The implications of this would need to be considered when naming pages. Pages named with acronyms, e.g. IBM*, are a particular problem. If you have a page called IBM Services, that would work ok. Same for IBM-Services, IBMServices is maybe a bad idea. Well, better get used to that (or refine your search with mime:wiki to only find wiki pages). The different handling of pages and attachments is going away in future anyway. Is it possible to have mime:wiki used as the default for title searches? No there isn't. It would not help in general anyway, because the distinction needed does not really exist (or does only exist when using the wiki in some specific way). In moin2 that problem becomes even more visible: you can have arbitrary items there (there is no distinction between pages and attachments) and each item has a content-type, e.g.: text/x.moin.wiki text/x.rst text/plain application/pdf image/jpeg application/octet-stream So, how do you decide now what should be considered as kind of a content and what is kind of an additional file? We still search a solution for that, but I guess we can't do any better than offering some groups of mimetypes. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 ___ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
